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14 Killed in Shooting in San Bernardino (1 Viewer)

OK it sounds more like it's one guy now, not 2 or 3. Came into a conference room and started firing. Assault rifle, bullet proof vest.

All unconfirmed.

 
If people wanna hurt others they will, but that isn't a good enough excuse to sit on our hands and pretend like there is nothing that can be done.

 
It is still mind boggling to me that police scanners are public. There's 85k people listening to the one I'm on and they just read a witness name and driver's license number over the air. Witness said he had a name and rough age of possible suspect who was at the Center "acting weird", left 20-30 mins before shooting, matches description of shooter.
yeah, I am listening to it too. The name was the witness who said someone was acting oddly. Don't think he wants that known to everyone listening.

 
Potential suspect: A male who left the building early, then 30 minutes later shooting started. Shooter matched general description of the person according to witness. Reported by a witness: Name REDACTED for privacy. His DL is being broadcast over the channel.

 
2:47 Possible shots heard at another hospital

Police responding to Patton Hospital. Possible shots fired heard in background of 911 call.

Holy hell....



 
Say they hypothetically detained one of the shooters (as some are reporting), would anyone be against immediate torture to identify the others and where they may be?
Of course people would be, and should be.
Why? If someone had information that could save dozens of other lives (after they just killed some innocent people), you would be opposed to sticking his balls in a vice until he shared? I personally don't understand this line of thinking.

 
Say they hypothetically detained one of the shooters (as some are reporting), would anyone be against immediate torture to identify the others and where they may be?
Of course people would be, and should be.
I wouldnt be against it.....of course, I doubt Mr. Manback and I would agree on much. :hifive:
So you think we should torture people to get info?
No, I'd let him sit in a cell and remain mum because of his rights while innocent people die.

 
Say they hypothetically detained one of the shooters (as some are reporting), would anyone be against immediate torture to identify the others and where they may be?
Of course people would be, and should be.
Why? If someone had information that could save dozens of other lives (after they just killed some innocent people), you would be opposed to sticking his balls in a vice until he shared? I personally don't understand this line of thinking.
Because torture doesn't work? Because we gave up that line of thinking decades if not centuries ago?
 
Man, this one hits close to home. Used to live out that way and still have friends and family in that area. Had a friend just a couple blocks away when the shooting started, they could hear it go down. San Bernardino isn't a great area but can't even wrap my head around this one right now. Thoughts and wishes to the victims.

 
Say they hypothetically detained one of the shooters (as some are reporting), would anyone be against immediate torture to identify the others and where they may be?
Of course people would be, and should be.
Why? If someone had information that could save dozens of other lives (after they just killed some innocent people), you would be opposed to sticking his balls in a vice until he shared? I personally don't understand this line of thinking.
For me because of the precedent. I don't want police with the responsibility of making that decision. It would surely be abused.
 
Man, this one hits close to home. Used to live out that way and still have friends and family in that area. Had a friend just a couple blocks away when the shooting started, they could hear it go down. San Bernardino isn't a great area but can't even wrap my head around this one right now. Thoughts and wishes to the victims.
That part of town isn't that bad. A lot of offices and restaurants, no?

 
Man, this one hits close to home. Used to live out that way and still have friends and family in that area. Had a friend just a couple blocks away when the shooting started, they could hear it go down. San Bernardino isn't a great area but can't even wrap my head around this one right now. Thoughts and wishes to the victims.
That part of town isn't that bad. A lot of offices and restaurants, no?
Yeah, that particular part of SB is fine, but it gets dicey not much further out.

 
NBC news showing video of victims on stretchers. Can see the people's faces. That is ridiculous in my opinion. Poor judgment

 
Man, this one hits close to home. Used to live out that way and still have friends and family in that area. Had a friend just a couple blocks away when the shooting started, they could hear it go down. San Bernardino isn't a great area but can't even wrap my head around this one right now. Thoughts and wishes to the victims.
That part of town isn't that bad. A lot of offices and restaurants, no?
Yeah. Industrial too.
 
Then go to CNN or Fox or any number of dedicated sites to this story. This is a message board chalk full of people with opinions. Some of us are ####### tired of mass shootings and a country that does absolutely nothing to stem the tide of machine guns, assault rifles and all other sorts of mass killing machinery into the hands of the wrong people. We're all pissed off and want it to stop. Don't get all pissy when emotions run high and opinions are vocalized.
Chock Full

 
A really good friend of mine regularly works with folk at that facility. She's trying to figure out if any of her friends, clients, or coworkers were affected. :sadbanana:

 
They read out the spelling of the suspect's first name over the scanner a bit ago. If true, definitely middle eastern.

 
Say they hypothetically detained one of the shooters (as some are reporting), would anyone be against immediate torture to identify the others and where they may be?
Of course people would be, and should be.
Why? If someone had information that could save dozens of other lives (after they just killed some innocent people), you would be opposed to sticking his balls in a vice until he shared? I personally don't understand this line of thinking.
Good point.

But I'm not sure that's enough. How do we deter people from doing this sort of thing again? I think we should publicly behead these people. Record it in high def as a message to anyone else who thinks about doing it. We can get more creative too, maybe put them in cages and drown them. Or burn them alive. The possibilities are endless.

 
cops flying to an elementary school

guy in army fatigues w a headset seen outside

 
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