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18 Overrated Beers - via Deadspin (1 Viewer)

Confession about the power of marketing. Back when I thought it was fancy shmancy, I used to order Stella pulled in a special glass at a trendy bar in LA. Then learned it's considered swill ("wife beater") in Europe - and suddenly it tasted like piss. There is a danger in these lists. Hell, I enjoy a Blue Moon with an orange wedge. As soon as you get pinned as unsophisticated for drinking it, that's when you suddenly taste something you didn't before... Before that, it was good.

Probably the case with most of these...

 
I do have a problem with the list. He doesn't consider the Bud Light type beers because they would fill this list and it would be pointless. But if you're going to do that why would you have Corona and MGD on the list? They're both similar to the Bud/Coors/Natty Light crowd-- beer you'd drink at a BBQ or the beach because it's cheap. No one thinks they're special.

 
I do have a problem with the list. He doesn't consider the Bud Light type beers because they would fill this list and it would be pointless. But if you're going to do that why would you have Corona and MGD on the list? They're both similar to the Bud/Coors/Natty Light crowd-- beer you'd drink at a BBQ or the beach because it's cheap. No one thinks they're special.
I think this is why they're not on the list - because they're not thought of as special.

 
Confession about the power of marketing. Back when I thought it was fancy shmancy, I used to order Stella pulled in a special glass at a trendy bar in LA. Then learned it's considered swill ("wife beater") in Europe - and suddenly it tasted like piss. There is a danger in these lists. Hell, I enjoy a Blue Moon with an orange wedge. As soon as you get pinned as unsophisticated for drinking it, that's when you suddenly taste something you didn't before... Before that, it was good.

Probably the case with most of these...
Totally agree with this. Find the same thing to be true with wine. If you like it, that's all that matters IMO

 
I like beer.

Stella might be a below average beer in Belgium, but at least Belgium knows a thing or two about beer. I'd take that over Pakistan's average beer any day.

 
Christo said:
:goodposting:

I live in the capital of IPA country and I love a good IPA but on so many levels it has become a hoppy arms race to see which brewery can out hop the others. Fortunately many of the established local brewers recognize that fact and offer multiple IPAs of varying hoppiness, the downside is that you have to sift through a lot of bitter over-hoppy beers to find the good ones.

 
I do have a problem with the list. He doesn't consider the Bud Light type beers because they would fill this list and it would be pointless. But if you're going to do that why would you have Corona and MGD on the list? They're both similar to the Bud/Coors/Natty Light crowd-- beer you'd drink at a BBQ or the beach because it's cheap. No one thinks they're special.
Obviously, this is why a list like this is always going to be a little silly, but I can see the reasoning.

All of the beers listed have a fair number of fans that think the beer is special in some way. They are also beers chosen by people who actually seemed to put some thought into it, in some form.

High Life (didn't see MGD listed) has quite a loyal following of folks that think it's the cheap beer of choice, but he (correctly) thinks that's absolutely not the case as others are markedly better.

Same for people that think Corona is somehow better than cheap AAL's, and more fit for a special occasion.

Ditto for Yuengling.

He covers Bud Light guy quite well, actually.

Bud Light guy generally isn't going to worry about defending his choice or proselytize about it. He hasn't given it much thought, and doesn't give a #### what you think.

 
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Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.

Heady Topper (and presumably Pliny the Younger and Elder as other "wait-in-line double IPAs") are also kind of a peculiar inclusion on the list. I think that HT is certainly more than "marginally better" than Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA. It's pretty easy to throw the top-rated beer in the world on an "overrated" list.

Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale is also a bit of a strange inclusion on the list, given that I'm not sure it actually has a hype level that exceeds what it deserves. It generally garners pretty mediocre reviews on the beer rating websites. It's nothing great, but it is not so terrible that its mediocre reputation renders it "overrated."

The selection that I probably most agree with is Stella Artois. It's a garbage generic lager masquerading as some fancy Belgian craft import.

Two "overrated" omissions that I think deserve mention are Goose Island 312 Urban Wheat and New Belgium Fat Tire. Both are probably the least interesting and generic beers that the breweries make. However, I guess they could both be included in the lazy "your local brewery's flagship" category. Guinness stout also probably deserves to be on the "overrated" list.

 
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Confession about the power of marketing. Back when I thought it was fancy shmancy, I used to order Stella pulled in a special glass at a trendy bar in LA. Then learned it's considered swill ("wife beater") in Europe - and suddenly it tasted like piss. There is a danger in these lists. Hell, I enjoy a Blue Moon with an orange wedge. As soon as you get pinned as unsophisticated for drinking it, that's when you suddenly taste something you didn't before... Before that, it was good.

Probably the case with most of these...
Similarly: my daughter (no pics) recently spent a year living/working in Australia, and learned very quickly that nobody drinks Fosters over there.

 
Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.
People absolutely go buy Heinie, Corona, Killian's, Yuengling, and Blue Moon, and feel like they are buying something a little special. Rolling Rock used to have a quite a loyal following until AB bought them (probably still does among the folks that don't know).

They aren't generally "refined beer drinkers" that feel that way, but the author didn't claim the article was geared towards only "refined beer drinkers".

Half of the article is essentially a beer snob telling fans of the above beers that what they are drinking still sucks.

The other half is him making sure folks understand his beer snob credentials.

 
Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.
People absolutely go buy Heinie, Corona, Killian's, Yuengling, and Blue Moon, and feel like they are buying something a little special. Rolling Rock used to have a quite a loyal following until AB bought them (probably still does among the folks that don't know).They aren't generally "refined beer drinkers" that feel that way, but the author didn't claim the article was geared towards only "refined beer drinkers".

Half of the article is essentially a beer snob telling fans of the above beers that what they are drinking still sucks.

The other half is him making sure folks understand his beer snob credentials.
This is a good analysis of the article.

 
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Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.
People absolutely go buy Heinie, Corona, Killian's, Yuengling, and Blue Moon, and feel like they are buying something a little special. Rolling Rock used to have a quite a loyal following until AB bought them (probably still does among the folks that don't know).

They aren't generally "refined beer drinkers" that feel that way, but the author didn't claim the article was geared towards only "refined beer drinkers".

Half of the article is essentially a beer snob telling fans of the above beers that what they are drinking still sucks.

The other half is him making sure folks understand his beer snob credentials.
That's the point though, when I buy Yuengling its because I'm NOT looking to buy anything special. Its my beer of choice when I don't want a craft beer and don't want to spend $12-$15 on a six-pack. Its a good beer that I can get for about $1 a bottle.

 
He's confirming that it's ok for people to stay in the Bud tier, almost glorifying them for staying put, then blasting guys who are transitioning from that tier to where he and his buddies reside. It's kind of like a rich white dude speaking fondly of the blue collar mining class but pissing and moaning when their kids go to college and start dating his daughter.

 
Heady Topper and all the other wait-in-line double IPAs: Double IPAs are so expensive to make (and therefore to buy) that there aren't too many bad ones on the market. I love Heady Topper, and I get excited every time one of my beer-obsessive friends tosses one my way, but I can't justify waiting around all morning outside a middle-of-nowhere brewery for the privilege of buying something that's only marginally better than Dogfish Head 90 Minute, which you can buy on friggin' Amtrak.

a-#######-men

 
Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.
People absolutely go buy Heinie, Corona, Killian's, Yuengling, and Blue Moon, and feel like they are buying something a little special. Rolling Rock used to have a quite a loyal following until AB bought them (probably still does among the folks that don't know).

They aren't generally "refined beer drinkers" that feel that way, but the author didn't claim the article was geared towards only "refined beer drinkers".

Half of the article is essentially a beer snob telling fans of the above beers that what they are drinking still sucks.

The other half is him making sure folks understand his beer snob credentials.
That's the point though, when I buy Yuengling its because I'm NOT looking to buy anything special. Its my beer of choice when I don't want a craft beer and don't want to spend $12-$15 on a six-pack. Its a good beer that I can get for about $1 a bottle.
So you're saying that, for you, Yuengling is a good session beer.

 
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Heady Topper and all the other wait-in-line double IPAs: Double IPAs are so expensive to make (and therefore to buy) that there aren't too many bad ones on the market. I love Heady Topper, and I get excited every time one of my beer-obsessive friends tosses one my way, but I can't justify waiting around all morning outside a middle-of-nowhere brewery for the privilege of buying something that's only marginally better than Dogfish Head 90 Minute, which you can buy on friggin' Amtrak.

a-#######-men
To be clear, I love Heady Topper and am also always pleased when one finds its way to me. But I'm talking about the truck-chasing line-waiting obsessive subculture that abounds in "craft beer circles" these days....hate it.

 
Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.
People absolutely go buy Heinie, Corona, Killian's, Yuengling, and Blue Moon, and feel like they are buying something a little special. Rolling Rock used to have a quite a loyal following until AB bought them (probably still does among the folks that don't know).

They aren't generally "refined beer drinkers" that feel that way, but the author didn't claim the article was geared towards only "refined beer drinkers".

Half of the article is essentially a beer snob telling fans of the above beers that what they are drinking still sucks.

The other half is him making sure folks understand his beer snob credentials.
That's the point though, when I buy Yuengling its because I'm NOT looking to buy anything special. Its my beer of choice when I don't want a craft beer and don't want to spend $12-$15 on a six-pack. Its a good beer that I can get for about $1 a bottle.
The point is you think it's better than Budweiser (aka, "special").

It's the beer of choice if you want to spend a buck a bottle and still keep your beer snob credentials (not, "you" specifically).

That's all well and good, unless you think Yuengling sucks and really isn't any better than Bud.

If that's the case, then Yuengling's standing in the beer world seems a little overrated.

 
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The point is you think it's better than Budweiser (aka, "special").It's the beer of choice if you want to spend a buck a bottle and still keep your beer snob credentials (not, "you" specifically).

That's all well and good, unless you think Yuengling sucks and really isn't any better than Bud.

If that's the case, then Yuengling's standing in the beer world seems a little overrated.
Hey, there are a lot of average beers I'll drink before Bud, and they're not "special" :shrug: My last word on it is sometimes I don't feel like spending $12 for a six-pack, those are the times I'll grab some Yuengling. If that makes it special than so be it. When I want a really good beer, I buy something else.

 
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Insein said:
Hmm never knew Yuengling was a national like. One of my gotos since I was 18. Good to see others with taste.
Another Yuengling fan. :hifive: Wholeheartedly agree on Heineken and #9. #9 is especially terrible and the only beer I've ever said I'll never drink again.

 
Confession about the power of marketing. Back when I thought it was fancy shmancy, I used to order Stella pulled in a special glass at a trendy bar in LA. Then learned it's considered swill ("wife beater") in Europe - and suddenly it tasted like piss. There is a danger in these lists. Hell, I enjoy a Blue Moon with an orange wedge. As soon as you get pinned as unsophisticated for drinking it, that's when you suddenly taste something you didn't before... Before that, it was good.

Probably the case with most of these...
Totally agree with this. Find the same thing to be true with wine. If you like it, that's all that matters IMO
This has been proven repeatedly, even with guys who write wine reviews.

I'll take my $3 bottle of Winking Owl from Aldi's, thanks.

 
Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.
People absolutely go buy Heinie, Corona, Killian's, Yuengling, and Blue Moon, and feel like they are buying something a little special. Rolling Rock used to have a quite a loyal following until AB bought them (probably still does among the folks that don't know).

They aren't generally "refined beer drinkers" that feel that way, but the author didn't claim the article was geared towards only "refined beer drinkers".

Half of the article is essentially a beer snob telling fans of the above beers that what they are drinking still sucks.

The other half is him making sure folks understand his beer snob credentials.
The only time any of us thought Killian's or Yuengling were "special" were when we got a keg and wanted something slightly better than Bud.

 
Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.
People absolutely go buy Heinie, Corona, Killian's, Yuengling, and Blue Moon, and feel like they are buying something a little special. Rolling Rock used to have a quite a loyal following until AB bought them (probably still does among the folks that don't know).

They aren't generally "refined beer drinkers" that feel that way, but the author didn't claim the article was geared towards only "refined beer drinkers".

Half of the article is essentially a beer snob telling fans of the above beers that what they are drinking still sucks.

The other half is him making sure folks understand his beer snob credentials.
That's the point though, when I buy Yuengling its because I'm NOT looking to buy anything special. Its my beer of choice when I don't want a craft beer and don't want to spend $12-$15 on a six-pack. Its a good beer that I can get for about $1 a bottle.
This is the sort of list I'd like to see.

 
Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.
People absolutely go buy Heinie, Corona, Killian's, Yuengling, and Blue Moon, and feel like they are buying something a little special. Rolling Rock used to have a quite a loyal following until AB bought them (probably still does among the folks that don't know).

They aren't generally "refined beer drinkers" that feel that way, but the author didn't claim the article was geared towards only "refined beer drinkers".

Half of the article is essentially a beer snob telling fans of the above beers that what they are drinking still sucks.

The other half is him making sure folks understand his beer snob credentials.
That's the point though, when I buy Yuengling its because I'm NOT looking to buy anything special. Its my beer of choice when I don't want a craft beer and don't want to spend $12-$15 on a six-pack. Its a good beer that I can get for about $1 a bottle.
The point is you think it's better than Budweiser (aka, "special").

It's the beer of choice if you want to spend a buck a bottle and still keep your beer snob credentials (not, "you" specifically).

That's all well and good, unless you think Yuengling sucks and really isn't any better than Bud.

If that's the case, then Yuengling's standing in the beer world seems a little overrated.
What a bizarre take... Budweiser is your baseline for rating something special? :loco:

 
Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.
People absolutely go buy Heinie, Corona, Killian's, Yuengling, and Blue Moon, and feel like they are buying something a little special. Rolling Rock used to have a quite a loyal following until AB bought them (probably still does among the folks that don't know).

They aren't generally "refined beer drinkers" that feel that way, but the author didn't claim the article was geared towards only "refined beer drinkers".

Half of the article is essentially a beer snob telling fans of the above beers that what they are drinking still sucks.

The other half is him making sure folks understand his beer snob credentials.
That's the point though, when I buy Yuengling its because I'm NOT looking to buy anything special. Its my beer of choice when I don't want a craft beer and don't want to spend $12-$15 on a six-pack. Its a good beer that I can get for about $1 a bottle.
The point is you think it's better than Budweiser (aka, "special").

It's the beer of choice if you want to spend a buck a bottle and still keep your beer snob credentials (not, "you" specifically).

That's all well and good, unless you think Yuengling sucks and really isn't any better than Bud.

If that's the case, then Yuengling's standing in the beer world seems a little overrated.
What a bizarre take... Budweiser is your baseline for rating something special? :loco:
That's not what I'm saying.

For a pretty terrible beer, it's got an incredibly loyal following. Folks keep wondering how you can call it over-rated, but half this thread is people defending Yuengling.

"Special" is probably poor choice of words, but this ####ty beer seems to be very important to people.

 
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pollardsvision said:
Insein said:
Hmm never knew Yuengling was a national like. One of my gotos since I was 18.
Not sure how far the distribution is now (I'd assume at least to the Mississippi), but folks in NC/VA and on the innerwebs seem to really like it.I remember a college buddy from Pottsville always bringing a few cases back with him because it wasn't available in NC yet. It seems have exploded since then.
Hit Memphis a couple years ago... Went on a brief kick due to reputation and interesting flavor for a MCD (multiple cold and domestic) offerin but got burned out on it pretty quick.
That's where I've been getting mine since it's not sold here in St Louis. My boss and daughter have each gone down

there recently and brought me back some. Haven't tried the summer wheat yet though.

 
Lol at people getting mad at a beer being called overrated by some random guy. Who cares? If you like a beer, drink it. If you don't, don't.

 
Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.
People absolutely go buy Heinie, Corona, Killian's, Yuengling, and Blue Moon, and feel like they are buying something a little special. Rolling Rock used to have a quite a loyal following until AB bought them (probably still does among the folks that don't know).

They aren't generally "refined beer drinkers" that feel that way, but the author didn't claim the article was geared towards only "refined beer drinkers".

Half of the article is essentially a beer snob telling fans of the above beers that what they are drinking still sucks.

The other half is him making sure folks understand his beer snob credentials.
That's the point though, when I buy Yuengling its because I'm NOT looking to buy anything special. Its my beer of choice when I don't want a craft beer and don't want to spend $12-$15 on a six-pack. Its a good beer that I can get for about $1 a bottle.
This is the sort of list I'd like to see.
Something like this: link?

ETA: note the author

 
Kind of a strange list.

Most of the beers on the list are only "overrated" by those who don't really know good beer. I don't know any refined beer drinkers that think that Miller High Life, Blue Moon, Killian's, Heineken, Corona, or Rolling Rock are actually good beers, such that they could be considered "overrated." If you are going to exclude Bud Light, then I'm not sure how these got through the filter.
People absolutely go buy Heinie, Corona, Killian's, Yuengling, and Blue Moon, and feel like they are buying something a little special. Rolling Rock used to have a quite a loyal following until AB bought them (probably still does among the folks that don't know).

They aren't generally "refined beer drinkers" that feel that way, but the author didn't claim the article was geared towards only "refined beer drinkers".

Half of the article is essentially a beer snob telling fans of the above beers that what they are drinking still sucks.

The other half is him making sure folks understand his beer snob credentials.
That's the point though, when I buy Yuengling its because I'm NOT looking to buy anything special. Its my beer of choice when I don't want a craft beer and don't want to spend $12-$15 on a six-pack. Its a good beer that I can get for about $1 a bottle.
The point is you think it's better than Budweiser (aka, "special").

It's the beer of choice if you want to spend a buck a bottle and still keep your beer snob credentials (not, "you" specifically).

That's all well and good, unless you think Yuengling sucks and really isn't any better than Bud.

If that's the case, then Yuengling's standing in the beer world seems a little overrated.
What a bizarre take... Budweiser is your baseline for rating something special? :loco:
That's not what I'm saying.

For a pretty terrible beer, it's got an incredibly loyal following. Folks keep wondering how you can call it over-rated, but half this thread is people defending Yuengling.

"Special" is probably poor choice of words, but this ####ty beer seems to be very important to people.
I'm not seeing anyone saying its very important to them. I think it's pretty telling when the same beer is being pointed out as being an outlier that shouldn't be on this list. Yuengling is also my 'every day' kind of beer. Certainly not something special that needs ferocious defending. :shrug:

At the end of the day, it's just another dork's opinion.

 
Can't find much fault with that list except that I don't think many of those (Killian, Rolling Rock, Red Stripe, Miller Lite...) are very highly rated at all

 
Heady Topper and all the other wait-in-line double IPAs: Double IPAs are so expensive to make (and therefore to buy) that there aren't too many bad ones on the market. I love Heady Topper, and I get excited every time one of my beer-obsessive friends tosses one my way, but I can't justify waiting around all morning outside a middle-of-nowhere brewery for the privilege of buying something that's only marginally better than Dogfish Head 90 Minute, which you can buy on friggin' Amtrak.

a-#######-men
OH BULL ####!

 
That's not what I'm saying.

For a pretty terrible beer, it's got an incredibly loyal following. Folks keep wondering how you can call it over-rated, but half this thread is people defending Yuengling.

"Special" is probably poor choice of words, but this ####ty beer seems to be very important to people.
I'm not seeing anyone saying its very important to them. I think it's pretty telling when the same beer is being pointed out as being an outlier that shouldn't be on this list. Yuengling is also my 'every day' kind of beer. Certainly not something special that needs ferocious defending. :shrug: At the end of the day, it's just another dork's opinion.
Cheers to that :banned:

 
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And put my ### in a lawn chair, toes in the clay

Not a worry in the world, a PBR on the way

Life is good today, life is good today.

 
My wife would always buy me PBR because that's what her dad drank. :cry:
Relating to your post in the hipster thread, that is what makes it hipster. It's ironic because it isn't popular anymore. It is what dad or grandpa drank...same idea with the thriftshop clothes or mustaches.

 
Yuengling.

:lmao:

(I agree - funny that you don't need to explain why)

Killian's Red - people rate that one well? Never heard of anyone liking it and it's super cheap

Bass Ale - IMO the best widely available traditional import (vs. Heineken, Beck's, St. Pauli Girl, and the like)

 
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