18 year old leaves house, sues parents to pay for college and living e (1 Viewer)

[Henry Ford]

So:

We know of at least two boyfriends the dad wanted her to break up with according to the parents' allegations; we know that for some reason the parents allege that she thought she wouldn't have to take meds or follow rules if she lived with her father while they were split up; her father coaches 8th grade girls' basketball, which is his youngest daughter's age; his email address creepily references the first daughter's name; he's the former chief of police; Mom's allegations say that Rachel created an online dating account for her Dad; Dad's allegations do not say this; everyone agrees she's bulimic; and parents' quick response to their daughter running away was to call and tell the school they won't pay for her to finish her senior year.

Looks open and shut for the parents, for sure.

You don't get to choose your parents, plain and simple... If everyone who had ####ty parents sued, it would create a massive backlog in the legal system that would never get caught up. You can't sue your parents bc they suck!

You def can't sue your parents to pay for any of your #### once you are of all legal age, case closed!

Unless you live in New Jersey or a state with similar laws. Case reopened.

This will be tossed... I hope they counter-sue and win.

I'm going to go ahead and trust the really smart lawyer who does this for a living in that jurisdiction. Thanks, though.

Do you know him?

I know he's very intelligent and has a solid interpretation and understanding of the law.

 

[Henry Ford]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

 

[Henry Ford]

So:

We know of at least two boyfriends the dad wanted her to break up with according to the parents' allegations; we know that for some reason the parents allege that she thought she wouldn't have to take meds or follow rules if she lived with her father while they were split up; her father coaches 8th grade girls' basketball, which is his youngest daughter's age; his email address creepily references the first daughter's name; he's the former chief of police; Mom's allegations say that Rachel created an online dating account for her Dad; Dad's allegations do not say this; everyone agrees she's bulimic; and parents' quick response to their daughter running away was to call and tell the school they won't pay for her to finish her senior year.

Looks open and shut for the parents, for sure.

You don't get to choose your parents, plain and simple... If everyone who had ####ty parents sued, it would create a massive backlog in the legal system that would never get caught up. You can't sue your parents bc they suck!

You def can't sue your parents to pay for any of your #### once you are of all legal age, case closed!

Unless you live in New Jersey or a state with similar laws. Case reopened.

This will be tossed... I hope they counter-sue and win.

I'm going to go ahead and trust the really smart lawyer who does this for a living in that jurisdiction. Thanks, though.

Do you know him?

ETA: Lawyers never take on frivolous lawsuits with no merit

I'm talking about Yankee23, you git.

 

[dparker713]

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/rachel-canning.pdf

Pleadings/certifications.

Hooo boy. That's some weird stuff in there. There are some notable differences between the wife and husband's certifications - particularly the wife saying that the daughter set up an online dating profile for the dad to try to break them up (which I didn't notice in the dad's certification, maybe I just missed it.)

Then there's this weird tidbit:

The emails attached to the dad's certification have the recipient and sender addresses:

rachel canning (a gmail address including her name)

"dad canning" (an optonline address which is "grachel1")

Why does this guy have an optonline email address titled "Dad Canning" with just this daughter's name in the title?

Maybe the daughter set up the account and the father is the only one that uses the email. Afterall, I don't know a single person under 40 that would use a cable-provider's email as their primary email account.

He has professional documents online, from his police consulting work, using that email address.

I have no idea why you wrote this. Has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote.

Because it's weird. "Hey, maybe his daughter set it up" doesn't change how ungodly weird it is, or the fact that he uses "grachel1" as his screen name all over the internet, not just the email address. His twitter account is @grachel1.

Most people use the same screen name as much as possible. Sorry, but using it in multiple places is the least weird part of it. You're really stretching here.

 

[glock]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

I have version 14.0

 

[Henry Ford]

Most people use the same screen name as much as possible. Sorry, but using it in multiple places is the least weird part of it. You're really stretching here.

You don't have to be sorry. I forgive you.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Do you know him?

ETA: Lawyers never take on frivolous lawsuits with no merit

I'm talking about Yankee23, you git.

Never been called a git before, I'll assume it is an insult you scallywag... Is the "g" pronounced as a "j"?

 

[Henry Ford]

Do you know him?

ETA: Lawyers never take on frivolous lawsuits with no merit

I'm talking about Yankee23, you git.

Never been called a git before, I'll assume it is an insult you scallywag... Is the "g" pronounced as a "j"?

It is not.

 

[dparker713]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

The best time to seek concessions is when the opposition shows signs of weakness

 

[Henry Ford]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

The best time to seek concessions is when the opposition shows signs of weakness

That was a chapter in Dr. Spock's Guide to Parenting, right?

 

[dparker713]

Most people use the same screen name as much as possible. Sorry, but using it in multiple places is the least weird part of it. You're really stretching here.

You don't have to be sorry. I forgive you.

sorry (ˈsɒrɪ) —adj (often foll by for) , -rier, -riest: 1. feeling or expressing pity, sympathy, remorse, grief, or regret: I feel sorry for him

HTH.

 

[Black Box]

grachel1? What is the "g" for?

 

[dparker713]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

The best time to seek concessions is when the opposition shows signs of weakness

That was a chapter in Dr. Spock's Guide to Parenting, right?

Actually, its from Mr. Spock's Guide to Parenting.

 

[Henry Ford]

Most people use the same screen name as much as possible. Sorry, but using it in multiple places is the least weird part of it. You're really stretching here.

You don't have to be sorry. I forgive you.

sorry (ˈsɒrɪ) —adj (often foll by for) , -rier, -riest: 1. feeling or expressing pity, sympathy, remorse, grief, or regret: I feel sorry for him

HTH.

Yes, of the posters in this thread, I am definitely the one deserving of pity.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So where does this travesty of a court case actually stand?

Is it underway?

Is the judge or a jury deciding?

Status?

 

[Sweet J]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

 

[Henry Ford]

So where does this travesty of a court case actually stand?

Is it underway?

Is the judge or a jury deciding?

Status?

Pretty sure the ruling yesterday is the last thing that happened.

 

[Henry Ford]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

I agree. We're not talking about some drug addict 30-year-old begging to come get taken care of. She's 18, an honors student, wants to go to college, and obviously has some difficulty, and asks her dad if she can come home. Just unbelievable.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So where does this travesty of a court case actually stand?

Is it underway?

Is the judge or a jury deciding?

Status?

Pretty sure the ruling yesterday is the last thing that happened.

Ok just wisely decided to just look it up, I did not realize they had a decision against her already.

Not sure why it should be promising for her when the judge says he worries about a "potentially slippery slope" of claims....

 

[Henry Ford]

So where does this travesty of a court case actually stand?

Is it underway?

Is the judge or a jury deciding?

Status?

Pretty sure the ruling yesterday is the last thing that happened.

Ok just wisely decided to just look it up, I did not realize they had a decision against her already.

Not sure why it should be promising for her when the judge says he worries about a "potentially slippery slope" of claims....

That's the article in the OP.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So where does this travesty of a court case actually stand?

Is it underway?

Is the judge or a jury deciding?

Status?

Pretty sure the ruling yesterday is the last thing that happened.

Ok just wisely decided to just look it up, I did not realize they had a decision against her already.

Not sure why it should be promising for her when the judge says he worries about a "potentially slippery slope" of claims....

That's the article in the OP.

Pffft, my bad, I thought for some reason this had been going on a long time.

 

[dparker713]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

I agree. We're not talking about some drug addict 30-year-old begging to come get taken care of. She's 18, an honors student, wants to go to college, and obviously has some difficulty, and asks her dad if she can come home. Just unbelievable.

You did notice she only sent that to the dad and not to the mom, right? And really, respecting her mom and counseling seem like fairly easy requirements. Making her give up the boyfriend was of course a more aggressive demand, but hardly off the wall.

 

[Henry Ford]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

I agree. We're not talking about some drug addict 30-year-old begging to come get taken care of. She's 18, an honors student, wants to go to college, and obviously has some difficulty, and asks her dad if she can come home. Just unbelievable.

You did notice she only sent that to the dad and not to the mom, right? And really, respecting her mom and counseling seem like fairly easy requirements. Making her give up the boyfriend was of course a more aggressive demand, but hardly off the wall.

So, the professional who makes $250,000.00 per year and uses his daughter's name as his screen name = not weird at all, but how dare she not hit "reply to all" on her ipad instead of "reply"?

 

[Sweet J]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

I agree. We're not talking about some drug addict 30-year-old begging to come get taken care of. She's 18, an honors student, wants to go to college, and obviously has some difficulty, and asks her dad if she can come home. Just unbelievable.

I just want to reiterate one more time what having a teenager does to a person. Hell, I think I've been close to losing my mind with my kid just because it's 9:30 at night, and he is still shuffling around the kitchen saying "I'm hungry, can I have a bowl of cereal?" and for f##ck's sake I've been asking him for the last hour to eat something and brush his teeth so we can get on with bedtime and FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST, I JUST WANT TO RELAX AND LAY DOWN AND WHY ARE YOU STILL DOING HOMEWORK YOU TOLD ME YOU FINISHED TWO HOURS AGO???

 

[dparker713]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

I agree. We're not talking about some drug addict 30-year-old begging to come get taken care of. She's 18, an honors student, wants to go to college, and obviously has some difficulty, and asks her dad if she can come home. Just unbelievable.

You did notice she only sent that to the dad and not to the mom, right? And really, respecting her mom and counseling seem like fairly easy requirements. Making her give up the boyfriend was of course a more aggressive demand, but hardly off the wall.

So, the professional who makes $250,000.00 per year and uses his daughter's name as his screen name = not weird at all, but how dare she not hit "reply to all" on her ipad instead of "reply"?

I'd call his email address unusual, but hardly damning, and hardly that weird.

There was no indication that her request to come home was a reply. In the exhibits it appears to be an originating email.

The father explains in his reply that he forwarded the email to the mother because they "do everything together" (he proceeds to then include yolo, now *that's* weird). Sounds like the parents trying to maintain a united front to the daughter, potentially because she's attempted to sow dissention before.

 

[Zow]

So:

We know of at least two boyfriends the dad wanted her to break up with according to the parents' allegations; we know that for some reason the parents allege that she thought she wouldn't have to take meds or follow rules if she lived with her father while they were split up; her father coaches 8th grade girls' basketball, which is his youngest daughter's age; his email address creepily references the first daughter's name; he's the former chief of police; Mom's allegations say that Rachel created an online dating account for her Dad; Dad's allegations do not say this; everyone agrees she's bulimic; and parents' quick response to their daughter running away was to call and tell the school they won't pay for her to finish her senior year.

Looks open and shut for the parents, for sure.

You don't get to choose your parents, plain and simple... If everyone who had ####ty parents sued, it would create a massive backlog in the legal system that would never get caught up. You can't sue your parents bc they suck!

You def can't sue your parents to pay for any of your #### once you are of all legal age, case closed!

Unless you live in New Jersey or a state with similar laws. Case reopened.

This will be tossed... I hope they counter-sue and win.

I'm going to go ahead and trust the really smart lawyer who does this for a living in that jurisdiction. Thanks, though.

Do you know him?

ETA: Lawyers never take on frivolous lawsuits with no merit

I'm talking about Yankee23, you git.

 

[Zow]

So where does this travesty of a court case actually stand?

Is it underway?

Is the judge or a jury deciding?

Status?

Pretty sure the ruling yesterday is the last thing that happened.

Ok just wisely decided to just look it up, I did not realize they had a decision against her already.

Not sure why it should be promising for her when the judge says he worries about a "potentially slippery slope" of claims....

It's a decision denying an emergency order. The bulk of the case is still open.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So where does this travesty of a court case actually stand?

Is it underway?

Is the judge or a jury deciding?

Status?

Pretty sure the ruling yesterday is the last thing that happened.

Ok just wisely decided to just look it up, I did not realize they had a decision against her already.

Not sure why it should be promising for her when the judge says he worries about a "potentially slippery slope" of claims....

It's a decision denying an emergency order. The bulk of the case is still open.

Well yeah I get that but the judge's comments early on can give a glance into how he is already feeling about the matter.

 

[McGarnicle]

If the dad is using the daughter's name in his email address, he's sniffing her panties on a regular basis at the very least.

 

[Henry Ford]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

I agree. We're not talking about some drug addict 30-year-old begging to come get taken care of. She's 18, an honors student, wants to go to college, and obviously has some difficulty, and asks her dad if she can come home. Just unbelievable.

You did notice she only sent that to the dad and not to the mom, right? And really, respecting her mom and counseling seem like fairly easy requirements. Making her give up the boyfriend was of course a more aggressive demand, but hardly off the wall.

So, the professional who makes $250,000.00 per year and uses his daughter's name as his screen name = not weird at all, but how dare she not hit "reply to all" on her ipad instead of "reply"?

I'd call his email address unusual, but hardly damning, and hardly that weird.

There was no indication that her request to come home was a reply. In the exhibits it appears to be an originating email.

The father explains in his reply that he forwarded the email to the mother because they "do everything together" (he proceeds to then include yolo, now *that's* weird). Sounds like the parents trying to maintain a united front to the daughter, potentially because she's attempted to sow dissention before.

Yes, like the online dating profile for her father that her mother blames her for that her dad doesn't acknowledge?

So... she started a new email conversation, from a gmail account, to send "so can I come home? " That's a weird email. Definitely should get that kid some help.

 

[glock]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

I agree. We're not talking about some drug addict 30-year-old begging to come get taken care of. She's 18, an honors student, wants to go to college, and obviously has some difficulty, and asks her dad if she can come home. Just unbelievable.

I just want to reiterate one more time what having a teenager does to a person. Hell, I think I've been close to losing my mind with my kid just because it's 9:30 at night, and he is still shuffling around the kitchen saying "I'm hungry, can I have a bowl of cereal?" and for f##ck's sake I've been asking him for the last hour to eat something and brush his teeth so we can get on with bedtime and FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST, I JUST WANT TO RELAX AND LAY DOWN AND WHY ARE YOU STILL DOING HOMEWORK YOU TOLD ME YOU FINISHED TWO HOURS AGO???

Please. Stop.

 

[dparker713]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

I agree. We're not talking about some drug addict 30-year-old begging to come get taken care of. She's 18, an honors student, wants to go to college, and obviously has some difficulty, and asks her dad if she can come home. Just unbelievable.

You did notice she only sent that to the dad and not to the mom, right? And really, respecting her mom and counseling seem like fairly easy requirements. Making her give up the boyfriend was of course a more aggressive demand, but hardly off the wall.

So, the professional who makes $250,000.00 per year and uses his daughter's name as his screen name = not weird at all, but how dare she not hit "reply to all" on her ipad instead of "reply"?

I'd call his email address unusual, but hardly damning, and hardly that weird.

There was no indication that her request to come home was a reply. In the exhibits it appears to be an originating email.

The father explains in his reply that he forwarded the email to the mother because they "do everything together" (he proceeds to then include yolo, now *that's* weird). Sounds like the parents trying to maintain a united front to the daughter, potentially because she's attempted to sow dissention before.

Yes, like the online dating profile for her father that her mother blames her for that her dad doesn't acknowledge?

So... she started a new email conversation, from a gmail account, to send "so can I come home? " That's a weird email. Definitely should get that kid some help.

Well, they did condition her coming home upon her attending counseling.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

I agree. We're not talking about some drug addict 30-year-old begging to come get taken care of. She's 18, an honors student, wants to go to college, and obviously has some difficulty, and asks her dad if she can come home. Just unbelievable.

You did notice she only sent that to the dad and not to the mom, right? And really, respecting her mom and counseling seem like fairly easy requirements. Making her give up the boyfriend was of course a more aggressive demand, but hardly off the wall.

So, the professional who makes $250,000.00 per year and uses his daughter's name as his screen name = not weird at all, but how dare she not hit "reply to all" on her ipad instead of "reply"?

I'd call his email address unusual, but hardly damning, and hardly that weird.

There was no indication that her request to come home was a reply. In the exhibits it appears to be an originating email.

The father explains in his reply that he forwarded the email to the mother because they "do everything together" (he proceeds to then include yolo, now *that's* weird). Sounds like the parents trying to maintain a united front to the daughter, potentially because she's attempted to sow dissention before.

Yes, like the online dating profile for her father that her mother blames her for that her dad doesn't acknowledge?

So... she started a new email conversation, from a gmail account, to send "so can I come home? " That's a weird email. Definitely should get that kid some help.

What does any of this have to do with whether the parents have an obligation to pay for their adult child's wish list?

 

[Henry Ford]

Well, they did condition her coming home upon her attending counseling.

And "other things we can address if we can get closer, but those are the major ones." After all, "the events leading up to what happened cant and wont happen again." (italics added.)

 

[Henry Ford]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

I agree. We're not talking about some drug addict 30-year-old begging to come get taken care of. She's 18, an honors student, wants to go to college, and obviously has some difficulty, and asks her dad if she can come home. Just unbelievable.

You did notice she only sent that to the dad and not to the mom, right? And really, respecting her mom and counseling seem like fairly easy requirements. Making her give up the boyfriend was of course a more aggressive demand, but hardly off the wall.

So, the professional who makes $250,000.00 per year and uses his daughter's name as his screen name = not weird at all, but how dare she not hit "reply to all" on her ipad instead of "reply"?

I'd call his email address unusual, but hardly damning, and hardly that weird.

There was no indication that her request to come home was a reply. In the exhibits it appears to be an originating email.

The father explains in his reply that he forwarded the email to the mother because they "do everything together" (he proceeds to then include yolo, now *that's* weird). Sounds like the parents trying to maintain a united front to the daughter, potentially because she's attempted to sow dissention before.

Yes, like the online dating profile for her father that her mother blames her for that her dad doesn't acknowledge?

So... she started a new email conversation, from a gmail account, to send "so can I come home? " That's a weird email. Definitely should get that kid some help.

What does any of this have to do with whether the parents have an obligation to pay for their adult child's wish list?

It's a mystery.

 

[Sweet J]

Please. Stop.

I'm going to start a "Dad's-who-have-short-fuses-and-just-want-to-go-to-f##king-bed" support group. You want in as an inaugural member?

 

[Chaka]

I vote daughter.

 

[Kraft...]

Appropos of nothing: There is no way to parent a kid for 18 years without at least once or twice blowing your f$$$ing lid over something assine that your kid has done. Hell, mine is only 13 years old, and the best kid a dad would ever hope for, and I've had days where he's made me see red and want to throw him into an active volcano. So, yeah, I'd hate to have me at my worst laid out for the world to see in pleadings. Particularly because teenagers have a way of taking the precise words you use and recasting them so it sounds like you are Morlock the Destroyer.

Then it's probably a good thing that, if your kid sent you an email asking if she can come home, you likely wouldn't respond with "well, only if you pre-agree to these conditions first. Otherwise, we don't want you around."

I thought that this was actually one of the most saddening parts of the whole thing. Particularly the poor gir writing simply "can I come home now?" and the dad writing a friggen missive in response. It was obvious that there is a lot of history there and I was sorry for them both.

yeah, I think that I would have replied something like: why don't we get together for lunch/dinner and talk about it, not lay it out in an email

 

[dparker713]

Well, they did condition her coming home upon her attending counseling.

And "other things we can address if we can get closer, but those are the major ones." After all, "the events leading up to what happened cant and wont happen again." (italics added.)

Is this like when I was in second grade and every word became sexual innuendo? You said "it". hehe.

 

[ElGatoLoco]

She's gotten over 3,000 followers on FB over this. Her life is an open book now whether she likes it or not. Maybe that was the plan all along.

 

[fantasycurse42]

She's gotten over 3,000 followers on FB over this. Her life is an open book now whether she likes it or not. Maybe that was the plan all along.

That is nothing... Imagine how many followers she'll have when she starts taking facials and doing 3 ways on camera.

 

[glock]

Please. Stop.

I'm going to start a "Dad's-who-have-short-fuses-and-just-want-to-go-to-f##king-bed" support group. You want in as an inaugural member?

IN

Last night I was the "Dad-who-has-a-short-fuse-and-just-wants-to-go-to-f##king-bed-at-midnight-and-you're-still-working-on-the-take-home-math-test-that-you-didn't-do-over-the-weekend-and-put-off-again-for-f##king-days"



Did I say, "IN?"

 

[Henry Ford]

Well, they did condition her coming home upon her attending counseling.

And "other things we can address if we can get closer, but those are the major ones." After all, "the events leading up to what happened cant and wont happen again." (italics added.)

Is this like when I was in second grade and every word became sexual innuendo? You said "it". hehe.

No, it's like when you don't want to put in an email that you told her to get out, and just refer to kicking her out/her leaving as "what happened."

 

[Insein]

Well, they did condition her coming home upon her attending counseling.

And "other things we can address if we can get closer, but those are the major ones." After all, "the events leading up to what happened cant and wont happen again." (italics added.)

Is this like when I was in second grade and every word became sexual innuendo? You said "it". hehe.

No, it's like when you don't want to put in an email that you told her to get out, and just refer to kicking her out/her leaving as "what happened."

Where would you get that indication? Can not and will not happen again sounds like she did something so heinous to her parents that having some prerequisites for return is a must. Theres no indication either wau though whether she left or was kicked out.

 

[fatness]

Her lacrosse stats.

 

[McGarnicle]

Her lacrosse stats.

Her stick handling is superb.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Her lacrosse stats.

Her stick handling is superb.

Doesn't defend the box at all.

 

[dparker713]

Well, they did condition her coming home upon her attending counseling.

And "other things we can address if we can get closer, but those are the major ones." After all, "the events leading up to what happened cant and wont happen again." (italics added.)

Is this like when I was in second grade and every word became sexual innuendo? You said "it". hehe.

No, it's like when you don't want to put in an email that you told her to get out, and just refer to kicking her out/her leaving as "what happened."

Oh, so its more like an English professor that claims every writer in English literature was gay.

 

[Henry Ford]

Well, they did condition her coming home upon her attending counseling.

And "other things we can address if we can get closer, but those are the major ones." After all, "the events leading up to what happened cant and wont happen again." (italics added.)

Is this like when I was in second grade and every word became sexual innuendo? You said "it". hehe.

No, it's like when you don't want to put in an email that you told her to get out, and just refer to kicking her out/her leaving as "what happened."

Oh, so its more like an English professor that claims every writer in English literature was gay.

No, more like someone you suspect might be gay constantly referring to his "partner" or "spouse."

 

[Black Box]

If the dad is using the daughter's name in his email address, he's sniffing her panties on a regular basis at the very least.

There was a time in my mom's life when she had my name in her email address. Ra-roh!