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2005 FBG/NFL Mock Draft Rounds 2 and 3 (1 Viewer)

ltaylor,I PMed you my pick for the Raiders.
This Oakland pick was never made before Chicago went. LT, can you let us know who was PM'd to you? If it was Britt, Chicago will have to pick again.I think we are on hold with the Saints pick until Radballs or LT provide that PM.
Wow my fault, and apoligies to everyone involved. Especially Grid if it turns out to cost him the player he wanted.
It will get worked out. No biggie, just a lull now in the draft. :sleep:
a lull? more like a coma.
 
With their second round pick, the Raiders select ....

David Pollack, DE, Georgia

This kid is a bit undersized, but he's got a lot of heart and a motor that doesn't stop. The Raiders really need a boost from their defensive front and if Pollack can add another 20-25 lbs. to his frame without a subsequent drop in his speed, he could be something very special. He also has the ability to play the run more than adequately despite his small frame, and he gets after the QB in passing situations.

 
With their second round pick, the Raiders select ....

David Pollack, DE, Georgia

This kid is a bit undersized, but he's got a lot of heart and a motor that doesn't stop. The Raiders really need a boost from their defensive front and if Pollack can add another 20-25 lbs. to his frame without a subsequent drop in his speed, he could be something very special. He also has the ability to play the run more than adequately despite his small frame, and he gets after the QB in passing situations.
Wow, this guy didnt go 1st rd?
 
With their second round pick, the Raiders select ....

David Pollack, DE, Georgia

This kid is a bit undersized, but he's got a lot of heart and a motor that doesn't stop.  The Raiders really need a boost from their defensive front and if Pollack can add another 20-25 lbs. to his frame without a subsequent drop in his speed, he could be something very special.  He also has the ability to play the run more than adequately despite his small frame, and he gets after the QB in passing situations.
:thumbup: Great value pick here. I think that this guy could easily been taken 15 picks earlier.
I'd go as far to say 20 picks earlier is a real possibility :shock: Could {probably should} go before E James...

Nice pick Raiders...

 
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24 Green Bay 10-6 - David Pollack -DE -Georgia.The Packers need to shore up a defense that had a hard time stopping opposing offenses once again in 2004. Going to start on the defensive line by drafting David Pollack, the 2005 Lombardi and Bednarik award winner. He'll lineup opposite of KGB and provide the hustle and hard work the Packers desperately need. Also considered Marcus Spears here but went with the safe pick. Pollack probably won't match his college production but should be a solid player for many years because of his work ethic and toughness. He went in our draft at #24. Try again, Raiders :)

 
24 Green Bay 10-6 - David Pollack -DE -Georgia.The Packers need to shore up a defense that had a hard time stopping opposing offenses once again in 2004. Going to start on the defensive line by drafting David Pollack, the 2005 Lombardi and Bednarik award winner. He'll lineup opposite of KGB and provide the hustle and hard work the Packers desperately need. Also considered Marcus Spears here but went with the safe pick. Pollack probably won't match his college production but should be a solid player for many years because of his work ethic and toughness. He went in our draft at #24. Try again, Raiders :)
Picks 24 and 25 are missing from LTs first post. Apparently, one of them is Pollack, I thought I remembered him going. Radballs, can you please go again and I will track down who that other pick was.Radballs has been PMed.
 
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Pick 24 - Green Bay took Pollack as noted abovePick 25 - Denver took SpearsNuclear George:

I wanted to wait to post this until I had more time to devote to the explanation. Here it is:Marcus Spears, Louisiana State DEOther areas of need: TE, DT, CB, WRI know he is considered raw in terms of experience and even some call him unmotivated in terms of his effort sometimes. Well, he's a converted TE and is still learning the position. But that bodes well for his potential also, as he is physcially gifted and just needs more experience at this position.There were a lot of tempting CBs at this pick too. Considering what Manning did to the secondary in that playoff game, it might have been a good idea to go that route. However, I take a view similar to Bill Parcells --- CBs are marginalized by the new chuck rule. That does not mean you can have crappy ones, and one in particular was tempting with this pick. But the first palce to start when attacking a QB like Manning is pass rush. Just look what NE did to him last weekend.Also, I was discussing this pick with a friend and he noted that Denver actually lost their games last year against the better running teams in the league. This despite finishing in the top 10 in both rushing and passing defense (yards). The games they won were largely against margin or sub-par rushing teams. So this led us to the belief that we needed the better run-stopping DE of the group of Pollack-Spears-Roth. Spears fits that mold better than the other two given his bigger size. Another point I noticed is that Spears fits the mold of Trevor Pryce somewhat --- a bigger guy with speed than can likely play any spot on the DL in a 4-3 setup. Several have said that Spears is more suited to a 3-4 given his size, but he also has enough speed to play DE in a 4-3 scheme. The emergence of Reggie Hayward this season means that Pryce (who has epxerience in the NFL at DT at various times) and Spears can shift along the line and give the Broncos more flexibility.In terms of TE, Miller was the only one who warranted first round consideration. And even if he were here at this pick, I am not sure I would have picked him. Granted, Denver's offense in years past has functioned somewhat better with a pass-catching TE. But Plummer still threw for 4,000+ yards this season. That signals to me that this offense is capable of running with Putzier and the current TEs. Plug in a (hopefully healthy) Tatum Bell and the speed factor on offense rises dramatically. The hope is that this will open up some space for the current TEs and allow the offense to compensate for not ahving a "Shannon Sharpe" in the middle of the field.Finally, the fact that Denver does not have a 3rd round pick also played into this pick. Instead of stocking up on quantity in rounds 2-3-4, we will likely need to stay with quality, and this pick accomplishes that objective. The only other position I truly considered was CB and hoepfully this pick helps the current CBs on the roster with a better pass rush enough to justify the pick.
 
Sorry, I thought I checked for both Pollack and Spears and didn't see them selected. Give me a few minutes.

 
Hopefully, this guy hasn't been taken.

With the 38th overall pick, the Raiders select ....

Kevin Burnett, LB, Tennessee

Burnett has all the physical tools to be a stud at the next level. Can get after the QB in blitz packages and defends the pass very well. Incredible overall athletic ability but he needs to show that he has completely recovered from the knee injury that he suffered in 2002. I think the Raiders will take a chance here in order to bolster their pathetic defensive front 7.

 
Round 2 so far:33(1). San Francisco 49ers - Brandon Browner - CB - Oregon State34(2). Cleveland Browns - Elton Brown - OG - Virginia35(3). Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami)- Rian "Goo" Wallace- LB - Temple36(4). Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ciatrick Fason - RB- Florida37(5). Tennessee Titans - Cory Webster- CB- LSU38(6). Oakland Raiders - Kevin Burnett- LB- Tennessee39(7). Chicago Bears - Wesley Britt- OT- Alabama40(8). New Orleans Saints (f/WAS): #40 is missing in the first post. I believe it belongs to the Saints.

 
2.8 (40) - New Orleans selects David Baas, G, Michigan

I wanted Burnett. If allowed, I would try to trade down. Since we can't, the Saints could use a G & this kid is generally regarded as the best OL from Michigan since Steve Hutchinson. Has a lot of experience and comes from a program known for producing good linemen. Quick, competitive, and can be downright nasty at times. He's also strong, smart, & a tireless worker who always gives 100%. Displays great technique, as well.

 
Sorry, I thought I checked for both Pollack and Spears and didn't see them selected. Give me a few minutes.
I missed them at first this morning when i was checkin people off of a list because they weren't bold..
 
Sorry, I thought I checked for both Pollack and Spears and didn't see them selected. Give me a few minutes.
there names were there they were just hidden becasue I had failed to highlight those two picks. I aplogize. Everything is corrected as far as that goes and fortunaly You two did not want the same player. I have really liked the picks thus far this round. Kevin Burnett is a tremedous player. I sae him play for two years at UT before I graduated. He is defintely a playmaker. I think he is a bit more talented than Al Wilson who came out of UT, and we all know that Al has turned out to be quite a good pro for Denver. Burnett probabaly a little better athlete, but nobody plays harder than Al Wilson
 
Sorry, I thought I checked for both Pollack and Spears and didn't see them selected. Give me a few minutes.
there names were there they were just hidden becasue I had failed to highlight those two picks. I aplogize. Everything is corrected as far as that goes and fortunaly You two did not want the same player.
You have the Bears choice as (10) on the main post. It should be (8).
 
Round 2 so far:33(1). San Francisco 49ers - Brandon Browner - CB - Oregon State34(2). Cleveland Browns - Elton Brown - OG - Virginia35(3). Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami)- Rian "Goo" Wallace - LB - Temple36(4). Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ciatrick Fason - RB - Florida37(5). Tennessee Titans - Cory Webster - CB - LSU38(6). Oakland Raiders - Kevin Burnett - LB - Tennessee39(7). Chicago Bears - Wesley Britt - OT - Alabama40(8). New Orleans Saints (f/WAS) - David Baas - G - Michigan41(9). Detroit Lions - Bob Henry PMed me, he will be making his pick later when he gets home.

 
Round 2 so far:33(1). San Francisco 49ers - Brandon Browner - CB - Oregon State34(2). Cleveland Browns - Elton Brown - OG - Virginia35(3). Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami)- Rian "Goo" Wallace - LB - Temple36(4). Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ciatrick Fason - RB - Florida37(5). Tennessee Titans - Cory Webster - CB - LSU38(6). Oakland Raiders - Kevin Burnett - LB - Tennessee39(7). Chicago Bears - Wesley Britt - OT - Alabama40(8). New Orleans Saints (f/WAS) - David Baas - G - Michigan41(9). Detroit Lions - Bob Henry PMed me, he will be making his pick later when he gets home.
This is a strong second round so far. I think we still have some more good picks to come also. Could this be deeper than last years draft? I didn't think so at first, but now I'm reconsidering.
 
Round 2 so far:33(1). San Francisco 49ers - Brandon Browner - CB - Oregon State34(2). Cleveland Browns - Elton Brown - OG - Virginia35(3). Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami)- Rian "Goo" Wallace - LB - Temple36(4). Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ciatrick Fason - RB - Florida37(5). Tennessee Titans - Cory Webster - CB - LSU38(6). Oakland Raiders - Kevin Burnett - LB - Tennessee39(7). Chicago Bears - Wesley Britt - OT - Alabama40(8). New Orleans Saints (f/WAS) - David Baas - G - Michigan41(9). Detroit Lions - Bob Henry PMed me, he will be making his pick later when he gets home.
This is a strong second round so far. I think we still have some more good picks to come also. Could this be deeper than last years draft? I didn't think so at first, but now I'm reconsidering.
I agree, this draft isn't that bad. It doesn't have the star of last year's draft but there are plenty of good players in this one.
 
I thought David Baas would be here for this pick, but low and behold he's not. Having gone TE in the first round the Lions would likely focus on DE, S, OG and possibly even QB. After looking over all the players left on the board, I have to be perfectly honest. If I were the Lions GM I'd think long and hard about taking Charlie Frye here. Granted, in this exercise we're not trading to better positions our team's needs, get extra picks or move up for specific players like the do in the real deal. I doubt I would've stayed put in rnd1 and taken Miller, rather moving down slightly and still getting the DE I want, then coming back here and looking at TE Alex Smith, G David Baas or move up in the 2nd a bit to try and grab a Shazor, Rogers, Browner type..

I think if the Lions took Frye it would position their team very well for the future offensively. Stating the obvious. Harrington is not locked in as the team's heir apparent (to who?) at QB. Hardly. They could sign a veteran to push Joey, possibly start this year or for a couple years.. and bring in Frye to be the 3rd QB and groom him for the future. Even if Joey develops you can trade one for a decent pick in a year or two. That would be called a CYA pick for Mooch. Doubt it will happen, but at least for myself.. it's something to think about - long and hard.

Frye has all the physical talent to be a solid NFL QB and he's more mobile than Joey. He's played for a couple years behind a horrible offensive line and still produced high comp. %s and produced good numbers. In Detroit he could eventually take over an offense that could rank among the NFL's very best potentially (especially in this mock getting Miller to boot).

Then, like a cold November Sunday after another Lions loss, I sobered up realizing full well they need to and probably will stay on target with a defensive minded pick at DE, S, DT, CB the focus (in that order). The choices boil down to DE Matt Roth, DE/T Chris Canty and a host of safeties (Nicolson, Bullocks, Atogwe, Fuller).. and Darryl Blackstock is very intriguing as well.

Blackstock is a great pass rusher, but an OLB.. it wouldn't be a total shock if the Lions went this route. They have the players to be flexible like the patriots/raiders schemes. A little 3-4 and 4-3 hybrid.. Blackstock is a perfect fit at OLB/DE as a rusher. Rogers, Wilkinson, Redding can all play 3-4 ends, Rogers or Wilkinson at NT. Blackstock and Bailey on the outside with Lehman and Holmes inside. Alex Lewis and James Davis are solid reserves, too.

Final answer?

DE Matt Roth, Iowa. High motor guy. Former LB, Millen-type who doesn't have elite skills, but a non-stop, high effort player with solid results. He could be a strong against the run and capable as a pass rusher. Not the sexiest pick, and I would pray they move around to get better value rather than settle here for Roth.. or at least have the ballz to take Frye. But Roth is the final answer.

 
Round 2

33(1). San Francisco 49ers - Brandon Browner - CB - Oregon State

34(2). Cleveland Browns - Elton Brown - OG - Virginia

35(3). Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami)- Rian "Goo" Wallace - LB - Temple

36(4). Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ciatrick Fason - RB - Florida

37(5). Tennessee Titans - Cory Webster - CB - LSU

38(6). Oakland Raiders - Kevin Burnett - LB - Tennessee

39(7). Chicago Bears - Wesley Britt - OT - Alabama

40(8). New Orleans Saints (f/WAS) - David Baas - G - Michigan

41(9). Detroit Lions - Matt Roth - DE - Iowa

42(10). Dallas Cowboys -

43(11). NY Giants

44(12). Arizona Cardinals-

45(13). Carolina Panthers -

46(14). Kansas City Chiefs -

47(15). Houston Texans-

48(16). Cincinnati Bengals -

49(17). Minnesota Vikings -

50(18). St. Louis Rams -

51(19). Green Bay Packers ( from NO)-

52(20). Jacksonville Jaguars -

53(21). Baltimore Ravens -

54(22). Seattle Seahawks -

55(23). Buffal0 Bills-

56(24). Denver Broncos -

57(25). New York Jets -

58(26). Green Bay Packers-

59(27). Atlanta Falcons-

60(28). Indianapolis Colts-

61(29). San Diego Chargers-

62(30). Pittsburgh Steelers -

63(31). Philadelphia Eagles -

64(32). New England Patriots -

 
I thought David Baas would be here for this pick, but low and behold he's not. Having gone TE in the first round the Lions would likely focus on DE, S, OG and possibly even QB. After looking over all the players left on the board, I have to be perfectly honest. If I were the Lions GM I'd think long and hard about taking Charlie Frye here. Granted, in this exercise we're not trading to better positions our team's needs, get extra picks or move up for specific players like the do in the real deal. I doubt I would've stayed put in rnd1 and taken Miller, rather moving down slightly and still getting the DE I want, then coming back here and looking at TE Alex Smith, G David Baas or move up in the 2nd a bit to try and grab a Shazor, Rogers, Browner type..

I think if the Lions took Frye it would position their team very well for the future offensively. Stating the obvious. Harrington is not locked in as the team's heir apparent (to who?) at QB. Hardly. They could sign a veteran to push Joey, possibly start this year or for a couple years.. and bring in Frye to be the 3rd QB and groom him for the future. Even if Joey develops you can trade one for a decent pick in a year or two. That would be called a CYA pick for Mooch. Doubt it will happen, but at least for myself.. it's something to think about - long and hard.

Frye has all the physical talent to be a solid NFL QB and he's more mobile than Joey. He's played for a couple years behind a horrible offensive line and still produced high comp. %s and produced good numbers. In Detroit he could eventually take over an offense that could rank among the NFL's very best potentially (especially in this mock getting Miller to boot).

Then, like a cold November Sunday after another Lions loss, I sobered up realizing full well they need to and probably will stay on target with a defensive minded pick at DE, S, DT, CB the focus (in that order). The choices boil down to DE Matt Roth, DE/T Chris Canty and a host of safeties (Nicolson, Bullocks, Atogwe, Fuller).. and Darryl Blackstock is very intriguing as well.

Blackstock is a great pass rusher, but an OLB.. it wouldn't be a total shock if the Lions went this route. They have the players to be flexible like the patriots/raiders schemes. A little 3-4 and 4-3 hybrid.. Blackstock is a perfect fit at OLB/DE as a rusher. Rogers, Wilkinson, Redding can all play 3-4 ends, Rogers or Wilkinson at NT. Blackstock and Bailey on the outside with Lehman and Holmes inside. Alex Lewis and James Davis are solid reserves, too.

Final answer?

DE Matt Roth, Iowa. High motor guy. Former LB, Millen-type who doesn't have elite skills, but a non-stop, high effort player with solid results. He could be a strong against the run and capable as a pass rusher. Not the sexiest pick, and I would pray they move around to get better value rather than settle here for Roth.. or at least have the ballz to take Frye. But Roth is the final answer.
Nice pick :thumbup:
 
2.10 Roddy White WR UAB

Roddy has the speed and YPC numbers the Cowboys are looking for here. The over the middle stuff is wrapped up by Meeshawn and Witten. The guy is showing somewhere in the high 4.3s for speed and will look to impress in Senior Bowl practices this week. I would seriously doubt he would be here in the second round because of all the hype around him.

There are concerns now that the OL will get shaken up and they will need to burn an OL pick here. But given the run on the holes in the OL it is unlikely that they would let this type of WR go by here.

 
2.11 Lance Mitchell ILB, Oklahoma

My assessment of the Giants is that the LB corps is their largest weakness. Nick Greisen, Kevin Lewis, Carlos Emmons, the bust signing of Barrett Green... I see no playmakers in that group.

Why Mitchell? Before his knee injury, he was a complete beast at Oklahoma, and would have easily been a first rounder. The knee is a question, he certainly wasnt the player this year that he was before the injury, but ACLs take two years to come back from, and we are in the 2nd round - every player has some question or another. Mitchell was the leader of a GREAT defense at oklahoma, and i see a real lack of leaders on that D now that strahan is in the twilight of his career. He makes plays all over the field, loves the physical side of the game, and has the imposing physical presence you want in a 4-3 MLB.

The Giants need a guy that their D can rally around, a real impact player, and i believe Mitchell is the just the man for that, he'll bring an element that their LB corps severely lacked this season.

Regardles of where Mitchell goes, i think he'll be a complete steal for whoever gets him. He could easily be as good as Derrick Johnson or Channing Crowder if he comes totally back from his knee injury.

 
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2.11 Lance Mitchell ILB, Oklahoma

My assessment of the Giants is that the LB corps is their largest weakness. Nick Greisen, Kevin Lewis, Carlos Emmons, the bust signing of Barrett Green... I see no playmakers in that group.

Why Mitchell? Before his knee injury, he was a complete beast at Oklahoma, and would have easily been a first rounder. The knee is a question, he certainly wasnt the player this year that he was before the injury, but ACLs take two years to come back from, and we are in the 2nd round - every player has some question or another. Mitchell was the leader of a GREAT defense at oklahoma, and i see a real lack of leaders on that D now that strahan is in the twilight of his career. He makes plays all over the field, loves the physical side of the game, and has the imposing physical presence you want in a 4-3 MLB.

The Giants need a guy that their D can rally around, a real impact player, and i believe Mitchell is the just the man for that, he'll bring an element that their LB corps severely lacked this season.

Regardles of where Mitchell goes, i think he'll be a complete steal for whoever gets him. He could easily be as good as Derrick Johnson or Channing Crowder if he comes totally back from his knee injury.
My thoughts exactly bloom, once again Cheifs heartbroken at their target player being drafted ahead of thier slot
 
This first half of the 2nd round looks to be stacked this year. I truly think many of these players could turn out to be more sure-fire pros then several of the guys taken in 1st. Kevin Burnett for instance is a sure thing starter in this league for many years. He may not be the guy that gets voted to the pro bowl every year, but he is the guy that if the coaches voted proabbaly would go.

 
2.12 CB Fabian Washington

Maybe a little early for him to be going, but if Webster doesn't fall (which he might), the Cards should be happy with Washington, and need a playmaker in their secondary to complement the playmakers up front.

 
Carolina Panthers select

2.13 Khalif Barnes OT Washington

This is an effort to shore up their offensive line in order to play the kind of game John Fox wants to play - run first. I'm not sure where Barnes will fit in '05, he may earn a starting RT spot but at least he will provide depth with his athleticism.

 
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Cheifs take Donte Nicholson S Oklahoma a big, fast, tough playmaker who is stout against the run. He finishes tackles rarely ever lets a runner get away. There are several option here but the Cheifs got torched against the run this year, so stopping the run will be a priority this offseason for the Cheifs. Nicholson is average against the pass but has the athletic ability to improve. The cheifs al;so looked at some of the LB's left on the board but most of what's left were pass rushers.

 
Cheifs take Donte Nicholson S Oklahoma a big, fast, tough playmaker who is stout against the run. He finishes tackles rarely ever lets a runner get away. There are several option here but the Cheifs got torched against the run this year, so stopping the run will be a priority this offseason for the Cheifs. Nicholson is average against the pass but has the athletic ability to improve. The cheifs al;so looked at some of the LB's left on the board but most of what's left were pass rushers.
:cry:
 
2.10 Roddy White WR UAB

Roddy has the speed and YPC numbers the Cowboys are looking for here. The over the middle stuff is wrapped up by Meeshawn and Witten. The guy is showing somewhere in the high 4.3s for speed and will look to impress in Senior Bowl practices this week. I would seriously doubt he would be here in the second round because of all the hype around him.

There are concerns now that the OL will get shaken up and they will need to burn an OL pick here. But given the run on the holes in the OL it is unlikely that they would let this type of WR go by here.
:thumbup: Parcells may not want to gear for the future, but Henson, Jones, Witten and White has the potential to be great.

 
2.10 Roddy White WR UAB

Roddy has the speed and YPC numbers the Cowboys are looking for here. The over the middle stuff is wrapped up by Meeshawn and Witten. The guy is showing somewhere in the high 4.3s for speed and will look to impress in Senior Bowl practices this week. I would seriously doubt he would be here in the second round because of all the hype around him.

There are concerns now that the OL will get shaken up and they will need to burn an OL pick here. But given the run on the holes in the OL it is unlikely that they would let this type of WR go by here.
:thumbup: Parcells may not want to gear for the future, but Henson, Jones, Witten and White has the potential to be great.
I think that the Cowboys have a very good chance of going WR with this pick. I just wish they had selected a different one. A solid pick still though.
 
the Bucs add Ciatrick Fason and Mike Williams in the first two rounds... add Clayton to that mix, and a developing simms, and that is quite the array of weapons to look forward to.

 
Round 2

33(1). San Francisco 49ers - Brandon Browner - CB - Oregon State

34(2). Cleveland Browns - Elton Brown - OG - Virginia

35(3). Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami)- Rian "Goo" Wallace - LB - Temple

36(4). Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ciatrick Fason - RB - Florida

37(5). Tennessee Titans - Cory Webster - CB - LSU

38(6). Oakland Raiders - Kevin Burnett - LB - Tennessee

39(7). Chicago Bears - Wesley Britt - OT - Alabama

40(8). New Orleans Saints (f/WAS) - David Baas - G - Michigan

41(9). Detroit Lions - Matt Roth - DE - Iowa

42(10). Dallas Cowboys - Roddy White WR UAB

43(11). NY Giants-Lance Mitchell LB Oklahoma

44(12). Arizona Cardinals-Fabian Washington CB Nebraska

45(13). Carolina Panthers - Khalif Barnes OT Washington

46(14). Kansas City Chiefs - Donte Nicholson S Oklahoma

47(15). Houston Texans-

48(16). Cincinnati Bengals -

49(17). Minnesota Vikings -

50(18). St. Louis Rams -

51(19). Green Bay Packers ( from NO)-

52(20). Jacksonville Jaguars -

53(21). Baltimore Ravens -

54(22). Seattle Seahawks -

55(23). Buffal0 Bills-

56(24). Denver Broncos -

57(25). New York Jets -

58(26). Green Bay Packers-

59(27). Atlanta Falcons-

60(28). Indianapolis Colts-

61(29). San Diego Chargers-

62(30). Pittsburgh Steelers -

63(31). Philadelphia Eagles -

64(32). New England Patriots -
With the 2.15 pick in the draft the Texans select Chris Canty DE VirginiaCanty was a possible first round pick until injury took him out for most of the year. Canty is a massive 6'7" 295 DE who has experience in the 3-4. The Texans need youth and depth along the DL. With Walker and smith playing the ends Canty will not be rushed, but if he shows that his knee is sound and the ability to hold the point of attack, he could force himself unto the field in 2005.

 
The Bengals could go in a couple different directions here. I thought about Alex Smith, he has terrific hand and runs great routes but might not be fast enough, and Schobel and Stewart are still pretty young. They could go DE but I don't see a DE left that grades this high. SS would have been another way to go but with Nicholson being taken off the board 2 picks earlier, it made my choice easier.

Ben Wilkerson - C - LSU - 6'4 298

Fontenot and Braham are both free agents and old. I think the Bengals will bring Braham back with a one year contract and give Wilkerson a year to get stronger. Wilkerson is the best center and one of the most overall complete players in this draft. He has all the intangibles, intelligent making all the calls at the line and never being confused on who his man is. He is superb in pass protection and a decent run blocker but needs to get stronger. Started since his true freshman year and would probably be ready to step in and start right away. But a year being groomed behind Braham and hitting the weights will have him ready to be a stud in his second season.

 
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Round 233(1). San Francisco 49ers - Brandon Browner - CB - Oregon State34(2). Cleveland Browns - Elton Brown - OG - Virginia35(3). Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami)- Rian "Goo" Wallace - LB - Temple36(4). Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ciatrick Fason - RB - Florida37(5). Tennessee Titans - Cory Webster - CB - LSU38(6). Oakland Raiders - Kevin Burnett - LB - Tennessee39(7). Chicago Bears - Wesley Britt - OT - Alabama40(8). New Orleans Saints (f/WAS) - David Baas - G - Michigan41(9). Detroit Lions - Matt Roth - DE - Iowa42(10). Dallas Cowboys - Roddy White WR UAB43(11). NY Giants-Lance Mitchell LB Oklahoma44(12). Arizona Cardinals-Fabian Washington CB Nebraska45(13). Carolina Panthers - Khalif Barnes OT Washington46(14). Kansas City Chiefs - Donte Nicholson S Oklahoma47(15). Houston Texans- Chris Canty DE Virginia48(16). Cincinnati Bengals - Ben Wilkerson - C - LSU49(17). Minnesota Vikings - 50(18). St. Louis Rams - 51(19). Green Bay Packers ( from NO)- 52(20). Jacksonville Jaguars - 53(21). Baltimore Ravens - 54(22). Seattle Seahawks - 55(23). Buffal0 Bills-56(24). Denver Broncos - 57(25). New York Jets - 58(26). Green Bay Packers-59(27). Atlanta Falcons-60(28). Indianapolis Colts-61(29). San Diego Chargers-62(30). Pittsburgh Steelers - 63(31). Philadelphia Eagles - 64(32). New England Patriots - Good job picking up the pace, fellas. Nice pick by Cincy, and it pains me to say so.

 
the Bucs add Ciatrick Fason and Mike Williams in the first two rounds... add Clayton to that mix, and a developing simms, and that is quite the array of weapons to look forward to.
The Porter/Bucs rumors could squash the idea of M. Williams. And actually I think this would benefit them as they get a solid WR in free agency and can use this pick elsewhere. Maybe to get a little more youth on D.Fason in the second is still a great pick if this happens.
 
Some very nice picks here boys, gotta say the draft isn't as top heavy as last year, but there are some playa's left in the 2nd for sure.I PM'ed texasyankee for the Vikings pick. Hopefully he won't take too long.

 
the Bucs add Ciatrick Fason and Mike Williams in the first two rounds... add Clayton to that mix, and a developing simms, and that is quite the array of weapons to look forward to.
The Porter/Bucs rumors could squash the idea of M. Williams. And actually I think this would benefit them as they get a solid WR in free agency and can use this pick elsewhere. Maybe to get a little more youth on D.Fason in the second is still a great pick if this happens.
I'll be surprised if Fason slips past the Eagles and Bucs. He's a great value there.
 
Just playing around with some positions we're looking at - Don't know if it interests anyone else or just clogs up the place ; ) 3 Cleveland Antrel Rolle CB from Miami13 Houston Pac-Man Jones CB West Virginia20 Dallas Carlos Rodgers CB Auburn 28 San Marlin Jackson CB/S Michigan29 IndianapoliJustin Miller CB Clemson 33(1). San Brandon Browner CB Oregon State37(5). Tennessee Cory Webster CB LSU 44(12). Arizona Fabian WashingtonCB Nebraska 14 Carolina Thomas Davis FS Georgia27 Atlanta Brodney Pool FS Oklahoma32 New Ernest Shazor S Michigan46(14). Kansas Donte Nicholson S Oklahoma7 Oakland Cedric Benson RB Texas8 Arizona Ronnie Brown RB Auburn23 Seahawks Carnell Williams RB Auburn36(4). Tampa Ciatrick Fason RB Florida4 Chicago Braylon Edwards WR Michigan 5 Tampa Mike Williams WR formerly USC21 Jaguars Troy Williamson WR South Carolina22 Ravens Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma 42(10). Dallas Roddy White WR UAB

 
Yeah Peep, I think it shows that everyone wants their teams Pass -D to improve. With the emphasis on the 5yard chuck rule, finding good CB/S are at a premium.

 
3 Cleveland Antrel Rolle CB from Miami13 Houston Pac-Man Jones CB West Virginia20 Dallas Carlos Rodgers CB Auburn 28 San Marlin Jackson CB/S Michigan29 IndianapoliJustin Miller CB Clemson 33(1). San Brandon Browner CB Oregon State37(5). Tennessee Cory Webster CB LSU 44(12). Arizona Fabian WashingtonCB Nebraska
LOADED UP. Browns might be thinking twice at #3 come draft day.
23 Seahawks Carnell Williams RB Auburn
Could move as far as Tampa Bay.
 
If you can put together all the picks by position it would great for teams deciding who to draft and making sure that we know who has been taken.

 
CORNERBACKS 8

3 Cleveland Antrel Rolle CB from Miami

13 Houston Pac-Man Jones CB West Virginia

20 Dallas Carlos Rodgers CB Auburn

28 San Marlin Jackson CB/S Michigan

29 IndianapoliJustin Miller CB Clemson

33(1). San Brandon Browner CB Oregon State

37(5). Tennessee Cory Webster CB LSU

44(12). Arizona Fabian WashingtonCB Nebraska

SAFTIES 4

14 Carolina Thomas Davis FS Georgia

27 Atlanta Brodney Pool FS Oklahoma

32 New Ernest Shazor S Michigan

46(14). Kansas Donte Nicholson S Oklahoma

RUNNING BACKS 4

7 Oakland Cedric Benson RB Texas

8 Arizona Ronnie Brown RB Auburn

23 Seahawks Carnell Williams RB Auburn

36(4). Tampa Ciatrick Fason RB Florida

WIDE RECIEVERS 5

4 Chicago Braylon Edwards WR Michigan

5 Tampa Mike Williams WR formerly USC

21 Jaguars Troy Williamson WR South Carolina

22 Ravens Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma

42(10). Dallas Roddy White WR UAB

OFFENSIVE TACKLE 5

6 Tennessee Alex Barron OT Florida St.

26 Jets Jammal Brown OT Oklahoma

30 Pittsburgh Adam Terry OT Syracuse

39(7). Chicago Wesley Britt OT Alabama

45(13). Carolina Khalif Barnes OT Washington

OFFENSIVE G/C 3

34(2). Cleveland Elton Brown OG Virginia

40(8). NO David Baas G Michigan

48(16). Cincinnati Ben Wilkerson C LSU

LINEBACKER 6

2 Miami Derrick Johnson LB from Texas

11 Dallas Shawn Merriman DE/OLB Maryland

19 Rams Channing Crowder LB

35(3). PhiladelphiRian Wallace LB Temple

38(6). Oakland Kevin Burnett LB Tennessee

43(11). NY Lance Mitchell LB Oklahoma

DEFENSIVE END 7

9 Wash Dan Cody DE Okalahoma

12 San Erasmus James DE Wisconsin

24 Packers David Pollack DE Georgia

25 Broncos Marcus Spears DE LSU

31 PhiladelphiaJustin Tuck DE ND

41(9). Detroit Matt Roth DE Iowa

47(15). Houston Chris Canty DE Virginia

DEFENSIVE TACKLE 3

15 Kansas Travis Johnson DT Florida State

17 Cincinnati Anttaj Hawthorne DT Wisconsin

18 Minnesota Shaun Cody DE/DT - USC

QUARTERBACK 2

1 San Aaron Rodgers QB from Cal

16 New Alex Smith QB Utah

TIGHT END 1

10 Detroit Heath Miller TE Virginia

 
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