2007 Rookie Draft / QUARTERBACKS (1 Viewer)

[Ron_Mexico]

Looking into 2007,

what can we expect

from the incoming QB draft class

from a dynasty perspective ?

Brady Quinn ND

Troy Smith OSU

Brian Brohm LOU

Drew Stanton MSU

Kevin Kolb HOU

discuss

.

 

[L5UT1ger]

Add Jamarcus Russell

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I like him a lot,

just outside of my top 5.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Overrated, but will still produce: Quinn

Interesting guys with just as much upside as Quinn: Russell, Smith, Stanton (with Stanton a tier below Russell and Smith)

I think Brohm should stay in school, but it looks 50/50 right now. He would in the 2nd tier mix, with a lower ceiling and a higher floor than Smith and Russell.

Kolb is nice sleeper that will not be nearly as hyped as the top 4 or 5. Trent Edwards and Tyler Palko are a few other later round QBs that intrigue me.

 

[L5UT1ger]

I think Russell will be the second QB taken behind Quinn.

I have posted about him in various threads, but I can sum it up here I guess.

He has dealt with pressure situations and done reasonably well.

He is considered a good leader on his team by his teammates.

Physically, he is a terrific prospect. He is big. Like 6'5" 255+ and, my lord, I have never seen anyone throw a football like this guy. He can throw it very very very far and makes it look effortless.

I watched him throw it 70 yards in the air on a hail mary for the spring game two years ago. he reached the end zone and likely could have thrown it farther.

There are folks that say he is either a Culpepper or Leftwich clone based on size and hopefully not race, but I think he is neither.

Mobility:

He is more mobile that Leftwich. Less than Culpepper pre injury. He is not slow as much as he is not quick. I think he can avoid the rush enough to be successful in the NFL, but that is just me. He does tend to carry the ball dangerously, but I would imagine that his hand in large enough to hold onto the ball better than most.

Arm Strength/Release:

Already addressed, and to say it again, its really really strong. His release is quicker than Leftwich's release. His point of release is plenty high so there is no Vince Young girly looking throw worries. He has had very little batted balls in college.

Experience:

He has been a two year starter. The year before he became the full time starter, he rotated with a Safety on the Tennessee practice squad, Marcus Randall. His completion percentage and TD/INT ratio had improved each year, so that, coupled with reports from his coaches, leads me to believe that he is, at minimum, coachable and football intelligent.

 

[Raagsreth]

If Russell declares he'll be a first round lock, and there's not many QB's I would personally take before him for fantasy purposes.

Troy Smith is a QB that's debated a lot and my opinion has about him has changed quite a bit. I think given time Smith could be a good QB, he's got a huge arm, doesn't make many mistakes and can avoid pressure if need be, I do however question his ability to read defenses and find open receivers effectively in the NFL, he might be a one trick poney.

Many felt Jordan Palmer had first round potential going into this year, he won't be a first round pick but should be a first day pick, isn't as good as his brother but has a rocket arm and still learning the QB position, if I'm not mistaken he only played QB 1 year in HS before going to college so the potential is there.

It's hard not to like Tyler Palko, watching him play he looks tailored made for the NFL and he gets bonus points for being lefty. He could be a first day pick that's groomed to be the heir of a team and be successful, he plays a lot like Leinart without the buzz around him.

Brady Quinn

Drew Stanton

JaMarcus Russell

Brian Brohm

Troy Smith

Chad Henne

Tyler Palko

Kevin Kolb

Jordan Palmer

Trent Edwards

is my current top 10.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

If Russell declares he'll be a first round lock, and there's not many QB's I would personally take before him for fantasy purposes.Troy Smith is a QB that's debated a lot and my opinion has about him has changed quite a bit. I think given time Smith could be a good QB, he's got a huge arm, doesn't make many mistakes and can avoid pressure if need be, I do however question his ability to read defenses and find open receivers effectively in the NFL, he might be a one trick poney.Many felt Jordan Palmer had first round potential going into this year, he won't be a first round pick but should be a first day pick, isn't as good as his brother but has a rocket arm and still learning the QB position, if I'm not mistaken he only played QB 1 year in HS before going to college so the potential is there.It's hard not to like Tyler Palko, watching him play he looks tailored made for the NFL and he gets bonus points for being lefty. He could be a first day pick that's groomed to be the heir of a team and be successful, he plays a lot like Leinart without the buzz around him.

Russell will definitely in my top 10 rooks for fantasy if he declares.Smith's main issue is that he's short. Shorter than his listed height. He's like a more athletic and stronger-armed Brees with less touch. Palmer's decision making is horrendous. he's Mr. Interception. All he has going for him is his bloodline.I like Palko as a hard-nosed MAC type QB. Hoping the Steelers take him in the 5th or 6th (sigh Omar Jacobs)

 

[aposulli]

If Russell declares he'll be a first round lock, and there's not many QB's I would personally take before him for fantasy purposes.Troy Smith is a QB that's debated a lot and my opinion has about him has changed quite a bit. I think given time Smith could be a good QB, he's got a huge arm, doesn't make many mistakes and can avoid pressure if need be, I do however question his ability to read defenses and find open receivers effectively in the NFL, he might be a one trick poney.Many felt Jordan Palmer had first round potential going into this year, he won't be a first round pick but should be a first day pick, isn't as good as his brother but has a rocket arm and still learning the QB position, if I'm not mistaken he only played QB 1 year in HS before going to college so the potential is there.It's hard not to like Tyler Palko, watching him play he looks tailored made for the NFL and he gets bonus points for being lefty. He could be a first day pick that's groomed to be the heir of a team and be successful, he plays a lot like Leinart without the buzz around him.

Russell will definitely in my top 10 rooks for fantasy if he declares.Smith's main issue is that he's short. Shorter than his listed height. He's like a more athletic and stronger-armed Brees with less touch. Palmer's decision making is horrendous. he's Mr. Interception. All he has going for him is his bloodline.I like Palko as a hard-nosed MAC type QB. Hoping the Steelers take him in the 5th or 6th (sigh Omar Jacobs)

Booo comparing the Big East to the MAC.Palko >>> Gradkowski

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

If Russell declares he'll be a first round lock, and there's not many QB's I would personally take before him for fantasy purposes.Troy Smith is a QB that's debated a lot and my opinion has about him has changed quite a bit. I think given time Smith could be a good QB, he's got a huge arm, doesn't make many mistakes and can avoid pressure if need be, I do however question his ability to read defenses and find open receivers effectively in the NFL, he might be a one trick poney.Many felt Jordan Palmer had first round potential going into this year, he won't be a first round pick but should be a first day pick, isn't as good as his brother but has a rocket arm and still learning the QB position, if I'm not mistaken he only played QB 1 year in HS before going to college so the potential is there.It's hard not to like Tyler Palko, watching him play he looks tailored made for the NFL and he gets bonus points for being lefty. He could be a first day pick that's groomed to be the heir of a team and be successful, he plays a lot like Leinart without the buzz around him.

Russell will definitely in my top 10 rooks for fantasy if he declares.Smith's main issue is that he's short. Shorter than his listed height. He's like a more athletic and stronger-armed Brees with less touch. Palmer's decision making is horrendous. he's Mr. Interception. All he has going for him is his bloodline.I like Palko as a hard-nosed MAC type QB. Hoping the Steelers take him in the 5th or 6th (sigh Omar Jacobs)

Booo comparing the Big East to the MAC.Palko >>> Gradkowski

When you're talking QBs, trust me, you *want* to be compared to the MAC.

 

[-OZ-]

When you're talking QBs, trust me, you *want* to be compared to the MAC.

Should Lions fans be hoping for Quinn or Russell?I've seen a fair amount of both, and I'm hoping for Russell.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Matt Millen will probably go after Rich Gannon.

This is the word on the streets from Motown.

 

[coolnerd]

Nothing to add yet

 

[aposulli]

If Russell declares he'll be a first round lock, and there's not many QB's I would personally take before him for fantasy purposes.Troy Smith is a QB that's debated a lot and my opinion has about him has changed quite a bit. I think given time Smith could be a good QB, he's got a huge arm, doesn't make many mistakes and can avoid pressure if need be, I do however question his ability to read defenses and find open receivers effectively in the NFL, he might be a one trick poney.Many felt Jordan Palmer had first round potential going into this year, he won't be a first round pick but should be a first day pick, isn't as good as his brother but has a rocket arm and still learning the QB position, if I'm not mistaken he only played QB 1 year in HS before going to college so the potential is there.It's hard not to like Tyler Palko, watching him play he looks tailored made for the NFL and he gets bonus points for being lefty. He could be a first day pick that's groomed to be the heir of a team and be successful, he plays a lot like Leinart without the buzz around him.

Russell will definitely in my top 10 rooks for fantasy if he declares.Smith's main issue is that he's short. Shorter than his listed height. He's like a more athletic and stronger-armed Brees with less touch. Palmer's decision making is horrendous. he's Mr. Interception. All he has going for him is his bloodline.I like Palko as a hard-nosed MAC type QB. Hoping the Steelers take him in the 5th or 6th (sigh Omar Jacobs)

Booo comparing the Big East to the MAC.Palko >>> Gradkowski

When you're talking QBs, trust me, you *want* to be compared to the MAC.

Granted Ben has been pretty damn good up until this year, what besides Frye, Gradkowski and Omar Jacobs have they produced?

 

[helix]

After watching all of Quinn's games this year, I believe he will not be a successful NFL QB. Whenever he is pressured, he collapses. If he could play Army, Navy and the Coast Guard on Sundays he would be a stud, but I don't think that will happen.

 

[Weiner Dog]

If Russell declares he'll be a first round lock, and there's not many QB's I would personally take before him for fantasy purposes.Troy Smith is a QB that's debated a lot and my opinion has about him has changed quite a bit. I think given time Smith could be a good QB, he's got a huge arm, doesn't make many mistakes and can avoid pressure if need be, I do however question his ability to read defenses and find open receivers effectively in the NFL, he might be a one trick poney.Many felt Jordan Palmer had first round potential going into this year, he won't be a first round pick but should be a first day pick, isn't as good as his brother but has a rocket arm and still learning the QB position, if I'm not mistaken he only played QB 1 year in HS before going to college so the potential is there.It's hard not to like Tyler Palko, watching him play he looks tailored made for the NFL and he gets bonus points for being lefty. He could be a first day pick that's groomed to be the heir of a team and be successful, he plays a lot like Leinart without the buzz around him.

Russell will definitely in my top 10 rooks for fantasy if he declares.Smith's main issue is that he's short. Shorter than his listed height. He's like a more athletic and stronger-armed Brees with less touch. Palmer's decision making is horrendous. he's Mr. Interception. All he has going for him is his bloodline.I like Palko as a hard-nosed MAC type QB. Hoping the Steelers take him in the 5th or 6th (sigh Omar Jacobs)

Booo comparing the Big East to the MAC.Palko >>> Gradkowski

When you're talking QBs, trust me, you *want* to be compared to the MAC.

Granted Ben has been pretty damn good up until this year, what besides Frye, Gradkowski and Omar Jacobs have they produced?

Leftwich, Pennington, ???

 

[Ron_Mexico]

The MAC is obviously a great breeding ground for

big solid NFL QBs.

 

[coolnerd]

The MAC is obviously a great breeding ground forbig solid NFL QBs.

Whether it MAC or another non-major conference or lower division of football, I think that these QBs gain advantage by playing for 3 or 4 years in many cases and having to learn to throw in tighter quarters because their WRs don't gain 5 yards of separation on 9 out of 10 teams like the QBs @ bigger schools.

 

[aposulli]

The MAC is obviously a great breeding ground forbig solid NFL QBs.

Whether it MAC or another non-major conference or lower division of football, I think that these QBs gain advantage by playing for 3 or 4 years in many cases and having to learn to throw in tighter quarters because their WRs don't gain 5 yards of separation on 9 out of 10 teams like the QBs @ bigger schools.

Unfortunatly two years from now, perhaps none of these guys will be starters except BenETA: I forgot Marshall used to be in the MAC

 

[coolnerd]

The MAC is obviously a great breeding ground forbig solid NFL QBs.

Whether it MAC or another non-major conference or lower division of football, I think that these QBs gain advantage by playing for 3 or 4 years in many cases and having to learn to throw in tighter quarters because their WRs don't gain 5 yards of separation on 9 out of 10 teams like the QBs @ bigger schools.

Unfortunatly two years from now, perhaps none of these guys will be starters except BenETA: I forgot Marshall used to be in the MAC

But some other QBs from a non-impressive conference or school witll have taken their place. If you look at the QBs around the league and where they went to college it is easy to be underwhlemed.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Did anyone catch that Conference USA Championship game

tonight ? Kolb looked very poised.

He exhibited some nice speed as well

with his 46 yard TD run.

 

[aposulli]

Sorry, not really into writing paragraphs upon paragraphs in my posts, just not my style... But I can assure you I put alot of thought into this list.

Disclosure: These rankings are based on NFL fantasy potential, not necessarily predicted NFL Draft order

1. JaMarcus Russell, LSU*

2. Brady Quinn, Notre Dame

3. Drew Stanton, Michigan State

4. Kevin Kolb, Houston

5. Troy Smith, Ohio State

6. Jordan Palmer, UTEP

7. Trent Edwards, Stanford

8. Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh

9. Zac Taylor, Nebraska

10. Jeff Rowe, Nevada

11. John Beck, BYU

12. Chris Leak, Florida

13. Matt Gutierrez, Idaho State

14. Justin Rascati, James Madison

15. Matt Moore, Oregon State

16. Jared Zabransky, Boise State

17. Luke Getsy, Akron

18. Brett Ratliff, Utah

19. Sam Hollenbach, Maryland

20. Toby Korrodi, Central Missouri

*Underclassmen

my RB list

my WR list

 

[Chaos Commish]

Did anyone catch that Conference USA Championship gametonight ? Kolb looked very poised. He exhibited some nice speed as wellwith his 46 yard TD run.

Bloom and I (and others I'm sure) have given Kolb his props around here. In a mock I posted a couple days ago, I predict 7 QBs from this class will eventually be starting in the NFL. Kolb is one of them. I think he's that capable. I'll have some high praise for him in the run up to the draft, but he is 7th in my rankings with the possibility of falling lower for an underclassman or two.

 

[aposulli]

Did anyone catch that Conference USA Championship gametonight ? Kolb looked very poised. He exhibited some nice speed as wellwith his 46 yard TD run.

Yeah and he's been pretty highly regarded as a pro prospect.. he could very well leapfrog Drew Stanton if they both play the way they've been playing in their Bowl Games.

 

[aposulli]

Did anyone catch that Conference USA Championship gametonight ? Kolb looked very poised. He exhibited some nice speed as wellwith his 46 yard TD run.

Bloom and I (and others I'm sure) have given Kolb his props around here. In a mock I posted a couple days ago, I predict 7 QBs from this class will eventually be starting in the NFL. Kolb is one of them. I think he's that capable. I'll have some high praise for him in the run up to the draft, but he is 7th in my rankings with the possibility of falling lower for an underclassman or two.

How's my ranking for praise? ( see previous post) And that's including the Juniors!

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Disclosure: These rankings are based on NFL fantasy potential, not necessarily predicted NFL Draft order1. Brady Quinn, Notre Dame2. Brian Brohm, Louisville*3. JaMarcus Russell, LSU*4. Drew Stanton, Michigan State5. Troy Smith, Ohio State6. Chad Henne, Michigan*7. Kevin Kolb, Houston8. John David Booty, USC*9. Jordan Palmer, UTEP10. Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh11. Trent Edwards, Stanford12. John Beck, BYU13. Chris Leak, Florida14. Jeff Rowe, Nevada15. Isiah Stanback, Washington16. Zac Taylor, Nebraska17. Matt Gutierrez, Idaho State18. John Stocco, Wisconsin19. Jared Zabransky, Boise State *Potential early entrantsSorry, not really into writing paragraphs upon paragraphs in my posts, just not my style... But I can assure you I put alot of thought into this list.

I like JaMarcus a lot.nice list.

 

[mcintyre1]

No love at all for Zac Taylor? He has proven that he can handle the complexity of a West Coast offense at Nebraska (see if you can find the video clip of him giving an example play call... it's something like 15 words long.) He doesn't have the strongest arm, but he is pretty accurate, and spreads the ball around like no other (again proving that he can handle a complex offense)

Stats so far this year (second year in West Coast offense):

RAT: 159.2 YDS: 2,789 TD: 24 CMP%: 62.2

His 24 TD passes have gone to 13 different receivers, with the leader catching 7 (Maurice Purify) with 2 other WR's and a TE tied at 3 for the next highest.

Also, Taylor is durable like no other. The Nebraska offensive line was a sieve last year, and still lets him get hit this year, but Taylor has never missed a game due to injury at Nebraska. Last Week, he took a hit very similar to the one that knocked out Colt McCoy at the end of the first half, and was ready to go by the start of the third quarter.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Did anyone catch that Conference USA Championship gametonight ? Kolb looked very poised. He exhibited some nice speed as wellwith his 46 yard TD run.

Bloom and I (and others I'm sure) have given Kolb his props around here. In a mock I posted a couple days ago, I predict 7 QBs from this class will eventually be starting in the NFL. Kolb is one of them. I think he's that capable. I'll have some high praise for him in the run up to the draft, but he is 7th in my rankings with the possibility of falling lower for an underclassman or two.

You know I love Kolb - good arm, good release, decisive QB, sees the whole field when he scrambles. The best QB that nobody's seen (until last night).Who are the 7? Quinn,Smith,Russell,Stanton,Brohm, Kolb, and Edwards?

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Kevin Kolb write up from week 4 Dark Phoenix:

Kevin Kolb – QB – Houston Cougars

6’3” 225 lbs. – Senior – unranked high school QB when entering college

Passing Stats Comp Att Yards TDS INT Att Yards TDS

Versus Oklahoma State 21 28 313 4 0 11 42 0

Kevin was a high school star in Texas at Stephenville High School. He was named to the Dallas Morning News Top Area 100 squad, where he ranked at #59. He finished his prep career as a two-time District Offensive MVP. He showed considerable rushing skills as well, and was named to many all star teams.

Kolb is a very mobile passer that throws well on the run. He has a quick ¾ release, and can fit the ball into tight spots. He has the arm strength to make every NFL throw, and the confidence in his arm to deliver the ball accurately and on time. With his nimble feet he does a good job of avoiding pressure, and can be considered a threat to run. He throws a very nice touch pass, and knows just how to drop the ball in over the receivers outside shoulder. Sometimes displays too much confidence in his arm, and thus makes bad decisions which leads to multiple interceptions.

Kevin Kolb enters the season with a Division I-A best 36 consecutive starts at Quarterback. He is on the verge of breaking nearly every University of Houston passing record. Houston has seen some gaudy numbers from a QB before (Andre Ware, David Klingler), but Kolb brings consistency that no other Houston QB has had. He is a multi-threat QB that has the work ethic to make it in the NFL. Kolb will be on a roster next season, and with a few years of coaching he could develop into a solid NFL starter.

 

[bueno]

 

[tex]

I've been following Kevin Kolb for the entire 4 years as a starter at UH and have a lot of respect for his talent and potential. The only thing that I worry about is that if I am not mistaken Art Briles has been his coach since high school. So I just wonder if that will have any bearing when he goes to the NFL. After having the same coach for so long, will it be difficult to make the adjustment to a new coach and new system? I hope not because he has the tools to be a very good NFL QB.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Did anyone catch that Conference USA Championship gametonight ? Kolb looked very poised. He exhibited some nice speed as wellwith his 46 yard TD run.

Bloom and I (and others I'm sure) have given Kolb his props around here. In a mock I posted a couple days ago, I predict 7 QBs from this class will eventually be starting in the NFL. Kolb is one of them. I think he's that capable. I'll have some high praise for him in the run up to the draft, but he is 7th in my rankings with the possibility of falling lower for an underclassman or two.

You know I love Kolb - good arm, good release, decisive QB, sees the whole field when he scrambles. The best QB that nobody's seen (until last night).Who are the 7? Quinn,Smith,Russell,Stanton,Brohm, Kolb, and Edwards?

1. JaMarcus Russell2. Brian Brohm3. Brady Quinn4. Troy Smith 5. Drew Stanton6. Trent Edwards7. Kevin Kolb8. Tyler Palko9. Isaiah Stanback10. John BeckI'm still watching recorded games of these guys, so rankings are fluid, but this is how I have them right now. I would bump him down for Henne or Brennan. June Jones and Jerry Glanville are rumored to be advising Colt to go ahead and take advantage of his absolutely ridiculous year if he wants to. A Kolb caveat. He's going to shrink considerably during draft season. I've been going on the 6-3 in his profile for two years. It would downgrade him in some respects, but I still think he wins an NFL job and ends up starting before he's done. I love his poise and accuracy. He also has a bit of "it factor" working for him. He's a winner. And of course, I like wheels on my QBs.

 

[aposulli]

No love at all for Zac Taylor? He has proven that he can handle the complexity of a West Coast offense at Nebraska (see if you can find the video clip of him giving an example play call... it's something like 15 words long.) He doesn't have the strongest arm, but he is pretty accurate, and spreads the ball around like no other (again proving that he can handle a complex offense)Stats so far this year (second year in West Coast offense):RAT: 159.2 YDS: 2,789 TD: 24 CMP%: 62.2His 24 TD passes have gone to 13 different receivers, with the leader catching 7 (Maurice Purify) with 2 other WR's and a TE tied at 3 for the next highest.Also, Taylor is durable like no other. The Nebraska offensive line was a sieve last year, and still lets him get hit this year, but Taylor has never missed a game due to injury at Nebraska. Last Week, he took a hit very similar to the one that knocked out Colt McCoy at the end of the first half, and was ready to go by the start of the third quarter.

At this point 11-16 in my rankings are sure to change. I like Stanback and Taylor more than most I thought. And that's not bias, because I'm from Big East country.Taylor has alot of weapons though and I expected him to have the year he's having.As for Brennan, someone thought he should be higher than Henne.... well, you don't think if Henne was schooled in the run'n'shoot spread offense, he wouldn't throw for 50 TDs?Brennan's season statistically isn't one bit surprising (ask those who had a fantasy college football league... his preseason ADP was top 2).

 

[Chaos Commish]

Did anyone catch that Conference USA Championship gametonight ? Kolb looked very poised. He exhibited some nice speed as wellwith his 46 yard TD run.

Bloom and I (and others I'm sure) have given Kolb his props around here. In a mock I posted a couple days ago, I predict 7 QBs from this class will eventually be starting in the NFL. Kolb is one of them. I think he's that capable. I'll have some high praise for him in the run up to the draft, but he is 7th in my rankings with the possibility of falling lower for an underclassman or two.

How's my ranking for praise? ( see previous post) And that's including the Juniors!

Solid stuff. Obviously, I'm a big Trent Edwards fan. Have been for a few years. He had a brutal time this year, but by no fault of his. So, I guess you low ranking of him would be my only serious gripe. I think he'll be the QB to get the most from the Senior Bowl this year.

 

[Waldorf]

Jordan Palmer was viewed as one of the top 5 QB's coming into the season. Looking at some of these rankings, I'm guessing the 14 INT's and UTEP's overall lackluster season dropped him down a lot.

 

[aposulli]

Jordan Palmer was viewed as one of the top 5 QB's coming into the season. Looking at some of these rankings, I'm guessing the 14 INT's and UTEP's overall lackluster season dropped him down a lot.

I'm not so sure Henne and Booty will declare, which would make Palmer 7th on my list. He will be drafted in the first 4 Rounds is my prediction.

 

[aposulli]

Solid stuff. Obviously, I'm a big Trent Edwards fan. Have been for a few years. He had a brutal time this year, but by no fault of his. So, I guess you low ranking of him would be my only serious gripe. I think he'll be the QB to get the most from the Senior Bowl this year.

I think there is a big drop-off after Edwards/Palmer/Kolb. Beck, Leak and co just don't measure up as NFL QB's.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Jordan Palmer was viewed as one of the top 5 QB's coming into the season. Looking at some of these rankings, I'm guessing the 14 INT's and UTEP's overall lackluster season dropped him down a lot.

Top 5? That was never a consensus. Some outliers hyped him and I think that was mostly based on name. He has the body and arm of an NFL QB. So do about 35 college QBs. I don't think it's there, but I bet he gets a shot based on name. I give him credit for effort, but even the college game seemed to fast for him quite regularly. I just can't imagine him playing in the NFL any time soon. He is developing and could come along over time, but this is a talented crop of "ready" QBs way ahead of Carson's bro. .02

 

[Daisuke Matsuzaka]

Solid stuff. Obviously, I'm a big Trent Edwards fan. Have been for a few years. He had a brutal time this year, but by no fault of his. So, I guess you low ranking of him would be my only serious gripe. I think he'll be the QB to get the most from the Senior Bowl this year.

I think there is a big drop-off after Edwards/Palmer/Kolb. Beck, Leak and co just don't measure up as NFL QB's.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Russell

Brohm

Quinn

Stanton

Smith

Everyone else, although Palmer is likely to be undervalued on draft day in my view.

 

[prymetyme25]

Think K. Kolb gets J. Cutler type talk during the combine this year. Alot of good tools just played for Uof H so talent level wasn't as good as some of the bigger conference schools. 3 years ago people were saying he was the best QB in Texas. and yes that includes V. Young and R. McNeal.

 

[Waldorf]

Jordan Palmer was viewed as one of the top 5 QB's coming into the season. Looking at some of these rankings, I'm guessing the 14 INT's and UTEP's overall lackluster season dropped him down a lot.

Top 5? That was never a consensus. Some outliers hyped him and I think that was mostly based on name. He has the body and arm of an NFL QB. So do about 35 college QBs. I don't think it's there, but I bet he gets a shot based on name. I give him credit for effort, but even the college game seemed to fast for him quite regularly. I just can't imagine him playing in the NFL any time soon. He is developing and could come along over time, but this is a talented crop of "ready" QBs way ahead of Carson's bro. .02

Not a consensus, but I saw that in a few different places. I didn't agree with it then. I've had him on my fantasy team the past three years, and, in watching him, he never did anything that inspired me. I'm guessing those who had him that high were anticipating that he'd learn to control the ball better (maybe they were going off name, but I tend to give people more credit than that--perhaps wrongly).

 

[Chaos Commish]

Jordan Palmer was viewed as one of the top 5 QB's coming into the season. Looking at some of these rankings, I'm guessing the 14 INT's and UTEP's overall lackluster season dropped him down a lot.

I'm not so sure Henne and Booty will declare, which would make Palmer 7th on my list. He will be drafted in the first 4 Rounds is my prediction.

Losing Jarrett and Smith has to make Booty think hard about things, but my understanding is that he is fully committed to staying another year. I have no idea what Henne will eventually do, but until he declares I'm keeping him off the list. He has to believe he could be QB1 in 08. That's huge.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Did anyone catch that Conference USA Championship gametonight ? Kolb looked very poised. He exhibited some nice speed as wellwith his 46 yard TD run.

Bloom and I (and others I'm sure) have given Kolb his props around here. In a mock I posted a couple days ago, I predict 7 QBs from this class will eventually be starting in the NFL. Kolb is one of them. I think he's that capable. I'll have some high praise for him in the run up to the draft, but he is 7th in my rankings with the possibility of falling lower for an underclassman or two.

You know I love Kolb - good arm, good release, decisive QB, sees the whole field when he scrambles. The best QB that nobody's seen (until last night).Who are the 7? Quinn,Smith,Russell,Stanton,Brohm, Kolb, and Edwards?

1. JaMarcus Russell2. Brian Brohm3. Brady Quinn4. Troy Smith 5. Drew Stanton6. Trent Edwards7. Kevin Kolb8. Tyler Palko9. Isaiah Stanback10. John BeckI'm still watching recorded games of these guys, so rankings are fluid, but this is how I have them right now. I would bump him down for Henne or Brennan. June Jones and Jerry Glanville are rumored to be advising Colt to go ahead and take advantage of his absolutely ridiculous year if he wants to. A Kolb caveat. He's going to shrink considerably during draft season. I've been going on the 6-3 in his profile for two years. It would downgrade him in some respects, but I still think he wins an NFL job and ends up starting before he's done. I love his poise and accuracy. He also has a bit of "it factor" working for him. He's a winner. And of course, I like wheels on my QBs.

We have nine out of the top 10 same, with the exception of Stanback, and it's not because I don't like Stanback. I just think he'll be drafted as "athlete" instead of QB. Brennan and Henne would knock Palko and Beck if they come out. Henne should stay, his draft stock should be a lot higher next year, and having Manningham to throw to has got to help.Kolb should end up being somewhere between the late 2nd and early 4th.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Jordan Palmer was viewed as one of the top 5 QB's coming into the season. Looking at some of these rankings, I'm guessing the 14 INT's and UTEP's overall lackluster season dropped him down a lot.

Top 5? That was never a consensus. Some outliers hyped him and I think that was mostly based on name. He has the body and arm of an NFL QB. So do about 35 college QBs. I don't think it's there, but I bet he gets a shot based on name. I give him credit for effort, but even the college game seemed to fast for him quite regularly. I just can't imagine him playing in the NFL any time soon. He is developing and could come along over time, but this is a talented crop of "ready" QBs way ahead of Carson's bro. .02

As usual, CC and I agree. Palmer makes way too many mistakes against C-USA competition for me to think there's something fixable there. I guess the case of Chris Simms should give Palmer some hope, but Simms still consistently dominated the weak competition in college. Palmer has never done that. I wonder where Palmer would be without Higgins.

 

[valhallan]

Sorry, not really into writing paragraphs upon paragraphs in my posts, just not my style... But I can assure you I put alot of thought into this list.

Disclosure: These rankings are based on NFL fantasy potential, not necessarily predicted NFL Draft order

1. Brady Quinn, Notre Dame

2. Brian Brohm, Louisville*

3. JaMarcus Russell, LSU*

4. Drew Stanton, Michigan State

5. Troy Smith, Ohio State

6. Chad Henne, Michigan*

7. Kevin Kolb, Houston

8. John David Booty, USC*

9. Jordan Palmer, UTEP

10. Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh

11. Trent Edwards, Stanford

12. John Beck, BYU

13. Chris Leak, Florida

14. Jeff Rowe, Nevada

15. Isiah Stanback, Washington

16. Zac Taylor, Nebraska

17. Matt Gutierrez, Idaho State

18. John Stocco, Wisconsin

19. Jared Zabransky, Boise State

*Potential early entrants

my RB list

my WR list

There's also Justin Rascati from James Madison. He was the likely successor to Stefan Lefors at Louisville until Brohm showed up, so he transferred to JMU.
Passing StatsYEAR TEAM CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT2003 UL 14 24 58.3 177 7.4 1 24 2 117.42004 JMU 185 283 65.4 2045 7.2 14 65 5 138.92005 JMU 149 214 69.6 1822 8.5 17 64 5 162.72006 JMU 153 231 66.2 2045 8.9 20 71 6 164.0Rushing StatsYEAR TEAM ATT YDS AVG LNG TD 2003 UL 8 57 7.1 31 1 2004 JMU 143 375 2.6 18 10 2005 JMU 78 306 3.9 26 5 2006 JMU 114 518 4.5 40 529-9 as a starter, with a national championship in '04. Good size (6-2 220), very accurate, mobile, and a good decision-maker.He's mentioned here as a prospect with mid-to-late round potential.

As someone who has seen him play a lot, I have to say he has some of that "it" factor you look for at the NFL level.

 

[aposulli]

Sorry, not really into writing paragraphs upon paragraphs in my posts, just not my style... But I can assure you I put alot of thought into this list.

Disclosure: These rankings are based on NFL fantasy potential, not necessarily predicted NFL Draft order

1. Brady Quinn, Notre Dame

2. Brian Brohm, Louisville*

3. JaMarcus Russell, LSU*

4. Drew Stanton, Michigan State

5. Troy Smith, Ohio State

6. Chad Henne, Michigan*

7. Kevin Kolb, Houston

8. John David Booty, USC*

9. Jordan Palmer, UTEP

10. Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh

11. Trent Edwards, Stanford

12. John Beck, BYU

13. Chris Leak, Florida

14. Jeff Rowe, Nevada

15. Isiah Stanback, Washington

16. Zac Taylor, Nebraska

17. Matt Gutierrez, Idaho State

18. John Stocco, Wisconsin

19. Jared Zabransky, Boise State

*Potential early entrants

my RB list

my WR list

There's also Justin Rascati from James Madison. He was the likely successor to Stefan Lefors at Louisville until Brohm showed up, so he transferred to JMU.
Passing StatsYEAR TEAM CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT2003 UL 14 24 58.3 177 7.4 1 24 2 117.42004 JMU 185 283 65.4 2045 7.2 14 65 5 138.92005 JMU 149 214 69.6 1822 8.5 17 64 5 162.72006 JMU 153 231 66.2 2045 8.9 20 71 6 164.0Rushing StatsYEAR TEAM ATT YDS AVG LNG TD 2003 UL 8 57 7.1 31 1 2004 JMU 143 375 2.6 18 10 2005 JMU 78 306 3.9 26 5 2006 JMU 114 518 4.5 40 529-9 as a starter, with a national championship in '04. Good size (6-2 220), very accurate, mobile, and a good decision-maker.He's mentioned here as a prospect with mid-to-late round potential.

As someone who has seen him play a lot, I have to say he has some of that "it" factor you look for at the NFL level.

Okay, I admit, he was on my list, but I omitted him because I thought if I avoided hyping the guy he would fly below the radar.Stupid I guess because we all know real-life draft order will determine the ADP of most Dynasty Rookie drafts.

Though I think there's a more than decent chance he doesn't get drafted.

Also check out Matt Gutierrez for another D1AA transfer (formerly from Michigan)

Here was my real list of Senior QBs

12. Zac Taylor, Nebraska

13. Matt Gutierrez, Idaho State

14. Justin Rascati, James Madison

15. John Stocco, Wisconsin

16. Jared Zabransky, Boise State

17. Luke Getsy, Akron

18. Drew Tate, Iowa

19. Lester Ricard, Tulane

20. Toby Korrodi, Central Missouri

 

[valhallan]

Okay, I admit, he was on my list, but I omitted him because I thought if I avoided hyping the guy he would fly below the radar.Stupid I guess because we all know real-life draft order will determine the ADP of most Dynasty Rookie drafts.Though I think there's a more than decent chance he doesn't get drafted.

Ha, yeah I thought you knew about him since you had Banks on your RB list. He certainly will be a wild card on draft day, but I bet some team takes a flyer on him. I'll avoid hyping him too

 

[aposulli]

Another D1AA star to keep an eye on...

Jason Murrietta, QB, Northern Arizona

And two of the most productive underclassmen are facing off today, my undergrad UMass Amherst and Liam Coen about to face off against UNH and Ricky Santos

 

[elpasotexan]

Jordan Palmer was viewed as one of the top 5 QB's coming into the season. Looking at some of these rankings, I'm guessing the 14 INT's and UTEP's overall lackluster season dropped him down a lot.

Top 5? That was never a consensus. Some outliers hyped him and I think that was mostly based on name. He has the body and arm of an NFL QB. So do about 35 college QBs. I don't think it's there, but I bet he gets a shot based on name. I give him credit for effort, but even the college game seemed to fast for him quite regularly. I just can't imagine him playing in the NFL any time soon. He is developing and could come along over time, but this is a talented crop of "ready" QBs way ahead of Carson's bro. .02

As usual, CC and I agree. Palmer makes way too many mistakes against C-USA competition for me to think there's something fixable there. I guess the case of Chris Simms should give Palmer some hope, but Simms still consistently dominated the weak competition in college. Palmer has never done that. I wonder where Palmer would be without Higgins.

With five more INTs per year.Palmer reminds me of Favre wthout the skill. Gunslinger's mentality, with way too many INTs. He was a great guy for UTEP, but would rarely come through in a clutch.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Another D1AA star to keep an eye on...Jason Murrietta, QB, Northern ArizonaAnd two of the most productive underclassmen are facing off today, my undergrad UMass Amherst and Liam Coen about to face off against UNH and Ricky Santos

John David Booty DEFINITLY isn't coming out after tonight's performance.Rankings edited.

Chris Leak has also put in an underwhelming performance thus far.He does not look like NFL material tonight.