2009 Rookie Draft Picks (2 Viewers)

[Burning Sensation]

Crabtree on pace for 280 yards tonight.

 

[broncofan13000]

Any Iowa fans here?

Shonn Greene has been ripping it up this season. Any thoughts?

Shonn Greene vs MSU

His highlights look good, bruising rb with nice moves.

This guy is absolutely awesome, I've watched 3 full games and always watch the highlights on him. He looks like a future stud in the NFL to me, the concern I have is 5'11 235#'s. I'm trying to come up with a good comparison to him and thought about S. Jax but he's 6'2" and about the same weight, Duckett is like 254 #'s who is a bust. I can't come up with any good comparisons to Shonn Greene and his body type who is successful in the NFL, if anyone can think of someone please chime in cause I'm real high on this kid.

I did find Earl Campbell 5'11 232#'s which is identical but that's just one guy and Campbell was an extremely rare talent. Emmitt Smith 5'9 216#'s... Any good scouts here know if Greenes size is going to be an issue?

Responding to my own post here, see Mike Turner is 5'10 and 244. Jamal Lewis 6'0 240, I think I was thinking Shonn was so big but I guess he's not, what do the scouts here think of this kid?

I think this kid could be a a great pick in the mid-first of rookie drafts. I think after playing a solid game against a top team like Penn State, he'll start getting more and more love. I'm very curious to see how he times out, but great speed isn't mandatory for his type of style.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Maclin putting up a big game as well. If he runs the kind of time he's been quoted at, i wouldnt be surprised if he's the 1st WR off the board in April.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Crabtree on pace for 280 yards tonight.

It has been said before but....manamongstboys

 

[EBF]

Greene is a Rudi Johnson clone. 40 time will keep him in the rounds 2-4 range, but he could be a solid starter.

 

[MAC_32]

Greene is a Rudi Johnson clone. 40 time will keep him in the rounds 2-4 range, but he could be a solid starter.

He'll never wow you, but I could see him being a very productive, steady back at the next level.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Greene is a Rudi Johnson clone. 40 time will keep him in the rounds 2-4 range, but he could be a solid starter.

He'll never wow you, but I could see him being a very productive, steady back at the next level.

Thanks guys, this is very helpful. I don't expect Greene to "wow" cause that's not his style, good to know that you don't think his size makes him non-relevant, that's one of my hangups i guess. Steady back, solid starter, etc; possibility at the next level works for me. Also Mac32 god bless you for posting the DL and LB rankings, very appreciated.

 

[bringerofchill]

Greene is a Rudi Johnson clone. 40 time will keep him in the rounds 2-4 range, but he could be a solid starter.

He'll never wow you, but I could see him being a very productive, steady back at the next level.

Thanks guys, this is very helpful. I don't expect Greene to "wow" cause that's not his style, good to know that you don't think his size makes him non-relevant, that's one of my hangups i guess. Steady back, solid starter, etc; possibility at the next level works for me. Also Mac32 god bless you for posting the DL and LB rankings, very appreciated.

I have Iowa season tickets and would agree with everything thats been said about Greene. I would point out that minor injuries have kept him on the sideline at times during games. This was earlier in the season and his conditioning may have been affected by not playing football last year. The only other note I would make is Greene has one more year of eligibility left and may return to Iowa for his final season, although I do not see that happening.

 

[FUBAR]

Early look at possible draft values. These are not my personal rankings. This is just a rough estimate of where I think these guys would go if the draft were today. The asterisks indicate the number of years of eligibility remaining.

First Round

QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma **

QB Matthew Stafford, Georgia *

QB Tim Tebow, Florida *

RB Chris Wells, Ohio State *

RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia **

RB CJ Spiller, Clemson *

RB LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh **

WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech **

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland *

WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri **

WR Percy Harvin, Florida *

TE Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State

Second Round

QB Mark Sanchez, USC *

QB Colt McCoy, Texas *

QB Josh Freeman, Kansas State *

RB Javon Ringer, Michigan State

RB Shonn Greene, Iowa *

WR Louis Murphy, Florida

WR Jarett Dillard, Rice

WR Damian Williams, USC **

WR Brandon Lafell, LSU

WR Brennan Marion, Tulsa

TE Chase Coffman, Missouri

TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma *

Third Round

RB Charles Scott, LSU *

RB Stafon Johnson, USC **

RB DeMarco Murray, Oklahoma **

WR Demetrius Byrd, LSU

WR Kenny Britt, Rutgers *

WR Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma

WR Derrick Williams, Penn State *

WR Marshwan "Mardy" Gilyard, Cincinnati *

WR Emmanuel Sanders, SMU *

TE Travis Beckum, Wisconsin

This is just a preliminary list. I don't have a great read on all of these guys and the 2nd-3rd round is mostly just guess work at this point. It's hard to determine which small school QBs will emerge from the fray and enter into the mix there, but some of them certainly will. If a player isn't on this list then I either forgot him, don't know him, or don't think he'll go this high.

I like this list except for the glaring omission of Nate Davis. I have him ahead of Tebow, around 8-10.

 

[Iron_Far]

crabtree looks 6 foot-ish in his videos, doesn't matter though as he's still a tackle-breakin monster

Yeah, this has me :shuked: as well when watching him - how "small" he seems relative to DBs. It doesn't seem like he's always crouching or something, either.

 

[MAC_32]

I am beginning to believe WR size is about as over rated as 40 speed in evaluating prospects.

 

[EBF]

I am beginning to believe WR size is about as over rated as 40 speed in evaluating prospects.

Yea, DeSean Jackson was the nail in the coffin on that one for me. Size is irrelevant. What I want to know is whether or not the guy can play. If the guy can play, it doesn't matter how big he is.

 

[jurb26]

I am beginning to believe WR size is about as over rated as 40 speed in evaluating prospects.

Yea, DeSean Jackson was the nail in the coffin on that one for me. Size is irrelevant. What I want to know is whether or not the guy can play. If the guy can play, it doesn't matter how big he is.

This became evident about 4 years ago as the NFL continued to rework the rules to further benefit the offensive side of the ball. All else equal, I'd still give the nod to the bigger prospect. It certainly doesn't mean as much as it has in the past however.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

The only thing I would add to this is that a WR still needs to be strong/tough enough to get by the jam. Guys like Jackson and Steve Smith obviously are. But a bigger WR prospect could still be too weak/non-physical to fail in the NFL because they can't get off the line, regardless of their size.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

M.Crabtree looks JUST LIKE a young Andre Johnson to me.

I like Moreno and Wells ALOT, but looks like there is going to be some tuff decisions for teams with top rookie picks.

 

[fruity pebbles]

M.Crabtree looks JUST LIKE a young Andre Johnson to me.I like Moreno and Wells ALOT, but looks like there is going to be some tuff decisions for teams with top rookie picks.

AJ was a lot faster, taller and stronger

 

[offdee]

M.Crabtree looks JUST LIKE a young Andre Johnson to me.I like Moreno and Wells ALOT, but looks like there is going to be some tuff decisions for teams with top rookie picks.

AJ was a lot faster, taller and stronger

Agreed, but Crabtree has better hands (both soft catching and attacking it out of the air) than AJ. Crabtree is up there with the Larry Fitz' of the world in that regard.

 

[SayWhat?]

Love the insight in this thread and there hasn't been a whole lot of discussion of late. Any late risers/fallers? To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

 

[offdee]

Love the insight in this thread and there hasn't been a whole lot of discussion of late. Any late risers/fallers? To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

For me...1) Michael Crabtree2) LeSean McCoy3) Knowshon Moreno4) Chris Wellsthan a big gap with the rest of the field, and will be more about what round they get drafted in and to what team than anything.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Love the insight in this thread and there hasn't been a whole lot of discussion of late. Any late risers/fallers? To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

For me...1) Michael Crabtree2) LeSean McCoy3) Knowshon Moreno4) Chris Wellsthan a big gap with the rest of the field, and will be more about what round they get drafted in and to what team than anything.

I like Maclin right up there with these 4 as well. He's going to run a low 4.3.

 

[jurb26]

Love the insight in this thread and there hasn't been a whole lot of discussion of late. Any late risers/fallers? To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

WellsMorenoMcCoyMurrayCrabtreeStaffordGreenHeyward BeyMaclinSpillerBradford

 

[EBF]

To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

The top 12 should be some combination of the following:QB Sam Bradford **QB Matthew Stafford *RB Knowshon Moreno **RB Chris Wells *RB LeSean McCoy **RB CJ Spiller *RB Shonn Greene *RB Javon RingerWR Michael Crabtree **WR Jeremy Maclin **WR Darrius Heyward-Bey *WR Percy Harvin ** = one year of eligibility remaining** = two years of eligibility remainingThere are some other RBs who could figure into the mix if they declare and land in good spots.

 

[NoFBinLA]

To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

The top 12 should be some combination of the following:QB Sam Bradford **QB Matthew Stafford *RB Knowshon Moreno **RB Chris Wells *RB LeSean McCoy **RB CJ Spiller *RB Shonn Greene *RB Javon RingerWR Michael Crabtree **WR Jeremy Maclin **WR Darrius Heyward-Bey *WR Percy Harvin ** = one year of eligibility remaining** = two years of eligibility remainingThere are some other RBs who could figure into the mix if they declare and land in good spots.

Pretty good combo there - I think you have the right group. Where they land will depend upon WHERE they land and how they finish as much as all the combine hullabaloo.

 

[EBF]

I think you have the right group. Where they land will depend upon WHERE they land and how they finish as much as all the combine hullabaloo.

Yea, that will be a huge factor. One guy who probably doesn't get enough paint on here is CJ Spiller. I'm not necessarily a huge fan of his skills, but he brings a home run dimension that no other back in this class offers and he will probably land in the first round of the NFL draft when the dust settles. Like I said in another thread, Chris Johnson is making CJ Spiller a lot of money. Moreno, Wells, and McCoy look like strong bets to get picked in the first round, which will cement their status as top 5-6 picks in almost every rookie draft. None of them are surefire bankable studs IMO, but any decent first round RB commands respect.Crabtree, Maclin, Harvin, and DHB are GREAT prospects in PPR. They won't all pan out, but they all have stud potential. This is the most top-heavy WR class I've seen since the Fitzgerald/Roy/Reggie/Evans/Clayton group in 2003. These WRs are better prospects than all of the RBs, but they'll be bargains in rookie drafts because people always reach for RBs in the top 5-6 (and that tendency will be worse after the abnormal success of the 2008 RB class). Beyond that, situation will be a huge factor. You can bet that 2-3 second tier RBs will land in favorable situations that make them appealing options in the first round of rookie drafts.

 

[Cookiemonster]

To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

The top 12 should be some combination of the following:QB Sam Bradford **QB Matthew Stafford *RB Knowshon Moreno **RB Chris Wells *RB LeSean McCoy **RB CJ Spiller *RB Shonn Greene *RB Javon RingerWR Michael Crabtree **WR Jeremy Maclin **WR Darrius Heyward-Bey *WR Percy Harvin ** = one year of eligibility remaining** = two years of eligibility remainingThere are some other RBs who could figure into the mix if they declare and land in good spots.

How strongly do you feel that we'll see all of these under classmen and under-under classmen this year? Are you of the opinion that the rookie cap is coming and they're all gonna jump in this last uncapped draft? Who has said they'll leave and who looks like they'll stay?

 

[EBF]

To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

The top 12 should be some combination of the following:QB Sam Bradford **QB Matthew Stafford *RB Knowshon Moreno **RB Chris Wells *RB LeSean McCoy **RB CJ Spiller *RB Shonn Greene *RB Javon RingerWR Michael Crabtree **WR Jeremy Maclin **WR Darrius Heyward-Bey *WR Percy Harvin ** = one year of eligibility remaining** = two years of eligibility remainingThere are some other RBs who could figure into the mix if they declare and land in good spots.

How strongly do you feel that we'll see all of these under classmen and under-under classmen this year? Are you of the opinion that the rookie cap is coming and they're all gonna jump in this last uncapped draft? Who has said they'll leave and who looks like they'll stay?

There's no way to know for sure, but I think almost all of them will declare. Most of them have nothing to gain by staying in school. Sam Bradford is about the only guy on my list who's a less than 90% bet to declare IMO.

 

[MAC_32]

To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

The top 12 should be some combination of the following:QB Sam Bradford **QB Matthew Stafford *RB Knowshon Moreno **RB Chris Wells *RB LeSean McCoy **RB CJ Spiller *RB Shonn Greene *RB Javon RingerWR Michael Crabtree **WR Jeremy Maclin **WR Darrius Heyward-Bey *WR Percy Harvin ** = one year of eligibility remaining** = two years of eligibility remainingThere are some other RBs who could figure into the mix if they declare and land in good spots.

How strongly do you feel that we'll see all of these under classmen and under-under classmen this year? Are you of the opinion that the rookie cap is coming and they're all gonna jump in this last uncapped draft? Who has said they'll leave and who looks like they'll stay?

There's no way to know for sure, but I think almost all of them will declare. Most of them have nothing to gain by staying in school. Sam Bradford is about the only guy on my list who's a less than 90% bet to declare IMO.

I'm under the impression that the chances of Bradford declaring are slim, did I miss something?Also, just confirming, Colt McCoy's almost certainly coming back, yes?

 

[EBF]

I'm under the impression that the chances of Bradford declaring are slim, did I miss something?

You might be right. I put him on the list because he'll be in the mix if he declares. When someone is looking at top 10-15 money, you have to strongly consider the possibility that he'll declare.

Also, just confirming, Colt McCoy's almost certainly coming back, yes?

It seems pretty likely. Texas has a good record of retaining its underclassmen and QBs are more inclined to stay than RBs or WRs. I think he's definitely a notch below Bradford and Stafford, so he has more incentive to stay in school and boost his stock.

 

[awesomeness]

To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

The top 12 should be some combination of the following:QB Sam Bradford **QB Matthew Stafford *RB Knowshon Moreno **RB Chris Wells *RB LeSean McCoy **RB CJ Spiller *RB Shonn Greene *RB Javon RingerWR Michael Crabtree **WR Jeremy Maclin **WR Darrius Heyward-Bey *WR Percy Harvin ** = one year of eligibility remaining** = two years of eligibility remainingThere are some other RBs who could figure into the mix if they declare and land in good spots.

How strongly do you feel that we'll see all of these under classmen and under-under classmen this year? Are you of the opinion that the rookie cap is coming and they're all gonna jump in this last uncapped draft? Who has said they'll leave and who looks like they'll stay?

There's no way to know for sure, but I think almost all of them will declare. Most of them have nothing to gain by staying in school. Sam Bradford is about the only guy on my list who's a less than 90% bet to declare IMO.

I'm under the impression that the chances of Bradford declaring are slim, did I miss something?Also, just confirming, Colt McCoy's almost certainly coming back, yes?

Bradford will likely be a top 10 pick in the NFL Draft if he declares, and could easily be a top 3 pick, imo. That's just too much money to say 'no' too, especially with talk of a rookie salary cap coming sooner than later. Colt McCoy on the other hand is all but certain to stay in Texas for next year.

 

[MAC_32]

To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

The top 12 should be some combination of the following:QB Sam Bradford **QB Matthew Stafford *RB Knowshon Moreno **RB Chris Wells *RB LeSean McCoy **RB CJ Spiller *RB Shonn Greene *RB Javon RingerWR Michael Crabtree **WR Jeremy Maclin **WR Darrius Heyward-Bey *WR Percy Harvin ** = one year of eligibility remaining** = two years of eligibility remainingThere are some other RBs who could figure into the mix if they declare and land in good spots.

How strongly do you feel that we'll see all of these under classmen and under-under classmen this year? Are you of the opinion that the rookie cap is coming and they're all gonna jump in this last uncapped draft? Who has said they'll leave and who looks like they'll stay?

There's no way to know for sure, but I think almost all of them will declare. Most of them have nothing to gain by staying in school. Sam Bradford is about the only guy on my list who's a less than 90% bet to declare IMO.

I'm under the impression that the chances of Bradford declaring are slim, did I miss something?Also, just confirming, Colt McCoy's almost certainly coming back, yes?

Bradford will likely be a top 10 pick in the NFL Draft if he declares, and could easily be a top 3 pick, imo. That's just too much money to say 'no' too, especially with talk of a rookie salary cap coming sooner than later. Colt McCoy on the other hand is all but certain to stay in Texas for next year.

I agree on Bradford's talent and think he is the first potential elite QB to enter the league in the last two (maybe three, don't remember if I used the word 'elite' are 'great' when describing Cutler coming out of school) seasons.I'm just writing what I've heard/read, and that is he is coming back for another year in school.

 

[domvin]

well, given the lack of qb talent this year, it will force a team to reach on a qb earlier than usual. Which is why I could see bradford or McCoy come out to get that money.

I am not sold yet on Wells. seems to run stiff, and too upright

 

[NoFBinLA]

I am not sold yet on Wells. seems to run stiff, and too upright

I am compiling tape on him (so to speak - does anyone still use tape?) on him but in the games I have already watched top to bottom, I haven't' fallen in love yet.

 

[awesomeness]

To any collge football followers, what would the 1st round of a 2009 rookie draft look like if your draft were today?

The top 12 should be some combination of the following:QB Sam Bradford **QB Matthew Stafford *RB Knowshon Moreno **RB Chris Wells *RB LeSean McCoy **RB CJ Spiller *RB Shonn Greene *RB Javon RingerWR Michael Crabtree **WR Jeremy Maclin **WR Darrius Heyward-Bey *WR Percy Harvin ** = one year of eligibility remaining** = two years of eligibility remainingThere are some other RBs who could figure into the mix if they declare and land in good spots.

How strongly do you feel that we'll see all of these under classmen and under-under classmen this year? Are you of the opinion that the rookie cap is coming and they're all gonna jump in this last uncapped draft? Who has said they'll leave and who looks like they'll stay?

There's no way to know for sure, but I think almost all of them will declare. Most of them have nothing to gain by staying in school. Sam Bradford is about the only guy on my list who's a less than 90% bet to declare IMO.

I'm under the impression that the chances of Bradford declaring are slim, did I miss something?Also, just confirming, Colt McCoy's almost certainly coming back, yes?

Bradford will likely be a top 10 pick in the NFL Draft if he declares, and could easily be a top 3 pick, imo. That's just too much money to say 'no' too, especially with talk of a rookie salary cap coming sooner than later. Colt McCoy on the other hand is all but certain to stay in Texas for next year.

I agree on Bradford's talent and think he is the first potential elite QB to enter the league in the last two (maybe three, don't remember if I used the word 'elite' are 'great' when describing Cutler coming out of school) seasons.I'm just writing what I've heard/read, and that is he is coming back for another year in school.

We'll see if he still wants to go back to school if he's staring 50-100mil in the face.

 

[Chachi]

Heads up for those who have Direct TV On Demand and also have the Big 10 Network. You can go to 1610, go to schools, pick the right school and watch all the highlights from all of the games (for some reason Ohio St vs. USC was missing, LOL). I've watched all of Iowa so far and started Michigan State then I'll move on to Ohio State.

Are there any WRs worth checking out in the Big 10? Also is Tyrelle Sutton worth a look?

 

[Wu-banger]

Sutton is an slightly above average talented back who can run and catch out of the backfield,,,,,

He seems like he has been at NW forever...although he is out for the rest of the season.

Nothing really stands out about him IMO besides his pass catching ability... solid college back who i dont think has any real WOW ability to make him excel at the NFL level.

He is not someone I would target in 2009 ... especially coming off another injury

 

[Buckna]

Gotta figure that unless Tech loses this weekend, UT gets into the championship game and they win that McCoy is coming back. If Tech wins this weekend, Harrell will have the Heisman likely sewn up too.

UT will probably be heavily favored for the National Championship game again in 2009 and McCoy will be the frontrunner for Heisman consideration. Everything I've read says that McCoy isn't really a top-tier QB prospect for the NFL either. His rankings are all over the map.

 

[Abraham]

McCoy stated a month ago that he's coming back.

Everything I've read says that McCoy isn't really a top-tier QB prospect for the NFL either.

Not to be rude, but it doesn't sound like you read much.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

McCoy stated a month ago that he's coming back.

Everything I've read says that McCoy isn't really a top-tier QB prospect for the NFL either.

Not to be rude, but it doesn't sound like you read much.

LOL, I'm shocked that you are defending a Longhorn. :(

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

McCoy stated a month ago that he's coming back.

Everything I've read says that McCoy isn't really a top-tier QB prospect for the NFL either.

Not to be rude, but it doesn't sound like you read much.

LOL, I'm shocked that you are defending a Longhorn. :(

yeah at least Benson is back in the league

 

[sheerterror]

Gotta figure that unless Tech loses this weekend, UT gets into the championship game and they win that McCoy is coming back. If Tech wins this weekend, Harrell will have the Heisman likely sewn up too.

UT will probably be heavily favored for the National Championship game again in 2009 and McCoy will be the frontrunner for Heisman consideration. Everything I've read says that McCoy isn't really a top-tier QB prospect for the NFL either. His rankings are all over the map.

Sounds an awful lot like Matt Leinart. What are the odds McCoy recognizes?

 

[Abraham]

I'm actually not a huge McCoy fan and have been very surprised at how well he's developed this year. But the crop of QBs in the pipe for the next 2 years is mediocre. Stafford, Bradford, McCoy, Tebow, Harrell, Daniel, Sanchez, Davis all in the next two years...and then what? Combine that with a dire need for QBs in the NFL in that time (KC, StL, SF, Minny, Sea, Tampa, Det possibly NYJ, possibly Chi, possibly Buff, possibly a couple more depending on new developments) and it's realistic that half of those guys are going in the top 2 rounds in the next 2 years.

 

[MAC_32]

Anyone else making a point of it to watch Nate Davis tonight?

Ball St vs. Central Mich 7:00 ESPN2

:(

 

[Buckna]

I've read a lot Colin, but I'm not surprised to see you come to the defense of a Longhorn!

He's all over the map by most scouts. I've seen him ranked as a for certain first rounder some places but do a quick search and you'll find plenty of people that say he's at best a mid-rounder. I can't find a link but I know Kiper has said he doesn't see McCoy as a top prospect.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Curious as to which Wrs you guys like outside the big 4. What other guys do you think will go in the 1st two rounds?

 

[jurb26]

Curious as to which Wrs you guys like outside the big 4. What other guys do you think will go in the 1st two rounds?

Who are you saying is the big 4?

 

[MAC_32]

Curious as to which Wrs you guys like outside the big 4. What other guys do you think will go in the 1st two rounds?

Some good ones have been highlighted throughout this thread. I'll add one that I don't believe has - Derrick Williams, Penn St - especially given the boom of the WildcatHe's going to be (incorrectly) downgraded because of his size, he shouldn't fall out of the 2nd round but I wouldn't be surprised if he does.Kid's a play maker and is going to make an impact at the next level, whether it be as a WR, a returner, a gimmick play guy, or all of the above.EDIT: apparently I wrote 3nd instead of 2nd, oops.

 

[MAC_32]

Curious as to which Wrs you guys like outside the big 4. What other guys do you think will go in the 1st two rounds?

Who are you saying is the big 4?

Educated guess - Crabtree, Harvin, Maclin, Heyward Bey

 

[fruity pebbles]

Curious as to which Wrs you guys like outside the big 4. What other guys do you think will go in the 1st two rounds?

Who are you saying is the big 4?

Crab, Hey Bey, Harvin, Maclin

 

[jurb26]

Curious as to which Wrs you guys like outside the big 4. What other guys do you think will go in the 1st two rounds?

Who are you saying is the big 4?

Crab, Hey Bey, Harvin, Maclin

Personally I don't think there is a big 4. I think there is Bey and Crabtree, then there rest. I'd also go one further and say that I think Bey will grade out a bit better. Either way, marginal difference IMO. Still, big 2, not 4 if you ask me.Maclin is next.Harvin is a guy that as I've said earlier will struggle to find an identity in the NFL IMO. He is not ready to be a NFL WR and may never be that. I view him as a Hester type player. That doesn't mean he isn't a great player, just maybe not a great fantasy player. Regardless if that is your top 4 then here are the other guys that need to be discussed:Robiskie, OSUWilliams, PSUByrd, LSUMcKinley, S. CarDillard, RiceForgot to add Iglesias, Oklahoma.

 

[MAC_32]

Curious as to which Wrs you guys like outside the big 4. What other guys do you think will go in the 1st two rounds?

Who are you saying is the big 4?

Crab, Hey Bey, Harvin, Maclin

Personally I don't think there is a big 4. I think there is Bey and Crabtree, then there rest. I'd also go one further and say that I think Bey will grade out a bit better. Either way, marginal difference IMO. Still, big 2, not 4 if you ask me.Maclin is next.Harvin is a guy that as I've said earlier will struggle to find an identity in the NFL IMO. He is not ready to be a NFL WR and may never be that. I view him as a Hester type player. That doesn't mean he isn't a great player, just maybe not a great fantasy player. Regardless if that is your top 4 then here are the other guys that need to be discussed:Robiskie, OSUWilliams, PSUByrd, LSUMcKinley, S. CarDillard, Rice

Don't forget about the guy from Tulsa. His name escapes me, it was brought up earlier in this thread though.