Scooby1974
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I got taken by someone in my first year as well. You'd think somebody would have looked out for Team B here, guess not.
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2010 Offseason Dynasty Trades (1 Viewer)
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The Real Hipster Doofus
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I've seen much worse. Smith is a top 15-20 WR (assuming PPR), and Cook is one of the highest upside TE's in the league. I wouldn't have made the deal, but its better than a lot of deals in this thread.
Lott's Fingertip
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The guy who finshed 3rd in my league(1st in points) made the following 2 trades:
he gave: Jonathan Stewart and Steve Smith(nyg)
he got: Pierre Thomas and Reggie Wayne
followed by:
he gave Ryan Grant and LeSean McCoy
he got Jermichael Finley and the 1.1(likely Mathews)
Good deals? Bad deals? One of each?
That team now has
QB Brees, Young
RB Rice, P.Thomas, Moreno
WR Wayne, White, V-Jax
TE Finley, Gonzalez
and now the 1.1 pick
he gave: Jonathan Stewart and Steve Smith(nyg)
he got: Pierre Thomas and Reggie Wayne
followed by:
he gave Ryan Grant and LeSean McCoy
he got Jermichael Finley and the 1.1(likely Mathews)
Good deals? Bad deals? One of each?
That team now has
QB Brees, Young
RB Rice, P.Thomas, Moreno
WR Wayne, White, V-Jax
TE Finley, Gonzalez
and now the 1.1 pick
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
Riffraff
Footballguy
Plenty of reasons:1. My squad was the top scoring team in the league in both 2008 and 2009, so I expect to be at least a semi-finalist in 2010. That's pick 1.11 thru 1.14, very late first round. 2. Non-PPR makes WRs a little devalued. Neither of these draft picks have to start for me. I can afford to gamble a little.3. I got 2.02 (#16 over-all) and 2.03 (#17 over-all) for what could be something like the #12 over-all next year. Fair value to move back and get 2 WRs I like right now. The perceived studs go early, not many last to 1.11 or later.4. I looked at the last 4 or 5 drafts in the league and saw that picks 1.11 through 2.03 were mostly interchangeable depending on who was selected. Not a lot of difference in talent as the picks were beyond the drop off point in most drafts. Now I got 2 selections to gamble on instead of 1. Only need 1 to do above average to justify the cost.5. I liked what I saw of Aromashodu (2.02). Guy doesn't really quit on plays. Cutler likes him and he fits the Bruce mold for a Martz offense. He started the final 4 weeks last year and was a stud for 3 of them. Fair chance to do as well as a lot of rookies. He's doing it on the NFL field already instead of just being a "potential" pick. He's still young and looks to be a "hands catcher." 6. Wanted WR Williams (2.03) as well. He looks the part of being TB's top WR. Outplayed his roommate Benn in rookie camp. He has the "my ball" mentality that I like to have on my squad (Fitz, Bowe, Nicks). Felt he was a top 3 or 4 rookie WR prospect that just dropped due to non-playing issues. 7. Didn't have a 1st round pick this year and neither of these guys were going to last to my late second round selection. Some years I trade away my picks, other years I actually use them. I've done well drafting when I keep them. The league has been around for a dozen years with very little turnover, we know each others playing/drafting styles quite well.
5Rings
Lurker
football expert is no expert. dude got schooled.
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Team A gave: Antonio Gates, 3.08
Team B gave: 1.09
Team B gave: 1.09
jsharlan
Footballguy
14 team IDP nonPPR dynasty salary cap(100m), contract league. My team is in full rebuild.
Trade 1:
Gave LeSean McCoy(1.3m, 2 years left on contract) and Joe Flacco(300k, 1 year left on contract)
for Two 1st round and Two 3rd round picks
Trade 2:
Gave Sidney Rice(100k, 1 year left on contract) and Chaz Sciliens(200K, 1 year left on contract) 6th and 7th round picks
for 1st round, 2nd round, 5th round picks, and assuming the cap hit(950K, 1 year left on contract) of Mark Clayton.
Trade 3:
Gave Chad Ochocinco(6.3m, 1 year left on contract), and 1st round pick
for Donald Brown(1.9m, 2 years left on contract), Johnny Knox(100k, 2 years left on contract), Mohamed Massaquoi(500k, 2 years left on contract), Two 3rd round picks.
Trade 4:
Gave Yeremiah Bell(3.2m, 1 year left) and Cortland Finnegan(3.5m, 1 year left)
for 2nd round and 4th round pick.
Trade 1:
Gave LeSean McCoy(1.3m, 2 years left on contract) and Joe Flacco(300k, 1 year left on contract)
for Two 1st round and Two 3rd round picks
Trade 2:
Gave Sidney Rice(100k, 1 year left on contract) and Chaz Sciliens(200K, 1 year left on contract) 6th and 7th round picks
for 1st round, 2nd round, 5th round picks, and assuming the cap hit(950K, 1 year left on contract) of Mark Clayton.
Trade 3:
Gave Chad Ochocinco(6.3m, 1 year left on contract), and 1st round pick
for Donald Brown(1.9m, 2 years left on contract), Johnny Knox(100k, 2 years left on contract), Mohamed Massaquoi(500k, 2 years left on contract), Two 3rd round picks.
Trade 4:
Gave Yeremiah Bell(3.2m, 1 year left) and Cortland Finnegan(3.5m, 1 year left)
for 2nd round and 4th round pick.
Terrible for Team B
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
I'm assuming it has to be some sort of clearing roster space addition.
FunkyTeaParty
Footballguy
I am about to trade the 1.7 for Randy Moss and DeMeco Ryans.
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team b ftw!
Instinctive
Footballguy
San Francisco 49ers proposed a trade with Houston Texans:
San Francisco 49ers will give
Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB
Year 2011 Round 4 Draft Pick from San Francisco 49ers
To Houston Texans for
Kolb, Kevin PHI QB
2010 Draft Pick 1.12
2010 Draft Pick 3.12
2011 Round 2 Draft Pick from Houston Texans
2011 Round 3 Draft Pick from Houston Texans
Zealots League I'm in
ETA: 2010 pick is 3.12, not 3.1
San Francisco 49ers will give
Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB
Year 2011 Round 4 Draft Pick from San Francisco 49ers
To Houston Texans for
Kolb, Kevin PHI QB
2010 Draft Pick 1.12
2010 Draft Pick 3.12
2011 Round 2 Draft Pick from Houston Texans
2011 Round 3 Draft Pick from Houston Texans
Zealots League I'm in
ETA: 2010 pick is 3.12, not 3.1
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aren't Zealots leagues 6pts all TD? well, whatever. I'll take the Texans.
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
Way too cheap for Aaron Rodgers
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love it for Team A.
No Way Jose
Footballguy
Team A gets: Drew Brees, Pierre Thomas, Robert Meachem
Team B gets: Kevin Kolb, Marion Barber, Desean Jackson
ppr
Team B gets: Kevin Kolb, Marion Barber, Desean Jackson
ppr
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Garts
Footballguy
Team A
Two trades by one team (Team A) in a league to move from 2.01 to 1.03.
Team A received 1.07 + 3.07
Team B received 2.01 + Royal
then
Team A received 1.03
Team C received 1.07 + Garcon
Edited to add: 12 team, ppr dynasty, start 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1 TE, K, D
Team A received 1.07 + 3.07
Team B received 2.01 + Royal
then
Team A received 1.03
Team C received 1.07 + Garcon
Edited to add: 12 team, ppr dynasty, start 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1 TE, K, D
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Instinctive
Footballguy
I believe so. He took Clausen with pick 1.12.I think it made the Texans the favorite...here's there starting lineup for them: Rodgers, CJ4.24, Ray Rice, JCharles, Roddy and Colston, JFinley and ODaniels...........................................
healthpellets
Footballguy
um, that seems AWFULLY cheap for Brees in a 1 QB league. in a 2 QB league, that's just unfair.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I really don't see the point in this trade for the 49ers, especially with them taking Clausen.So they're basically taking a huge downgrade at the QB position for an upgrade nowhere else. The late draft picks are worth essentially nothing, so what is the point in trading away a stud QB for a couple other QBs that are worse?
GSWarriors
Footballguy
Team A gets 1.01, 1.04, 2.01, and Greg Olsen
Team B gets Gore, Garcon and Vernon Davis.
14-team PPR
Team B gets Gore, Garcon and Vernon Davis.
14-team PPR
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Avery
Footballguy
Wow. I think Boldin may under perform but I think that's terrible value for him.
Yup, though I really like Mike Thomas and think *next* year this deal won't look nearly as bad (Washington could surprise as well). Still, Boldin is worth more.
az_prof
Footballguy
If the best you could get for Gates is 1.09 you have to hold. What are you going to do with the 1.09? Take Gresham? So, you would replace arguable the TE1 or TE2 in the whole game for a rookie, promising as he is, who plays for CIN? The developmental time for rookie TEs tends to be long and the strikeout rate is at least 50%. I think this is horrible. If I were going to move Gates I would at least want to get into the top five picks this year.
az_prof
Footballguy
The 2011 #1 makes it worth it to me. 2011 is a long way away and so who knows that it won't be a higher pick? Boldin is switching teams to a team that passes alot less, has injury issues, and is approaching that age where WRs start to tail off. To get a good young WR in Mike Thomas and a future first rounder is fair. If it turns out to be the 1.12, yeah, it's a bad deal. But if it turns out to be the 1.5, it is a great deal. If it turns out to be a top three pick, it's a blockbuster deal.
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Avery
Footballguy
Only focusing on the negatives in regards to Boldin and only referring to a WR with no history of NFL success as a "good young WR" seems to be a rather disingenuous argument.
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
Took over a bad team this offseason and made a lot of moves to shake up the roster. Focused on loading up on 2011 draft picks. Here are the deals I made for those picks...
Trade 1
Dealt Kevin Kolb, Bernard Scott
Got 2011 1st (estimate 1.02-1.05), 2011 2nd (same)
Trade 2
Dealt Brent Celek
Got 2011 1st (estimate 1.03-1.08), 2011 2nd (same)
Trade 3
Dealt 2010 1.05, 2.01, 2.02
Got 1.08, Chaz Schilens, 2011 1st (estimate 1.03-1.08)
Trade 4
Dealt 1.08, Jerrico Cotchery, 2011 2nd (likely mid), 2011 3rd (high)
Got 2011 1st (estimate 1.03-1.08)
So now I have my own 2011 1st (almost guarenteed to the the 1.01) and those 4 picks 1sts, as well as 2 high second rounders. I may make all those picks or likely would move some for established players around draft time next year. Thoughts?
Trade 1
Dealt Kevin Kolb, Bernard Scott
Got 2011 1st (estimate 1.02-1.05), 2011 2nd (same)
Trade 2
Dealt Brent Celek
Got 2011 1st (estimate 1.03-1.08), 2011 2nd (same)
Trade 3
Dealt 2010 1.05, 2.01, 2.02
Got 1.08, Chaz Schilens, 2011 1st (estimate 1.03-1.08)
Trade 4
Dealt 1.08, Jerrico Cotchery, 2011 2nd (likely mid), 2011 3rd (high)
Got 2011 1st (estimate 1.03-1.08)
So now I have my own 2011 1st (almost guarenteed to the the 1.01) and those 4 picks 1sts, as well as 2 high second rounders. I may make all those picks or likely would move some for established players around draft time next year. Thoughts?
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Lott's Fingertip
Footballguy
I like these moves a lot. You should get a number of blue-chip players in next season's draft, and may be able to move a couple of picks for real quality, as you said.Well done.
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The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
Hmmm. I am a huge Best supporter but I would probably take Beanie over him. Not that big of a gap though. Crabtree over DJax is a pretty big gap though to me.
Birdie048
Footballguy
10 Team, 2QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, 2 TE start, PPR, IDP
Gave up Eddie Royal
Got in return: Pettigrew & 2011 rookie 4th round pick
I was shopping Royal for a TE upgrade (M Bennett, D Thomas, S Nelson)
I had other offers (Shaincoe & Boss), but I like Pettigrew's potential long term.
Gave up Eddie Royal
Got in return: Pettigrew & 2011 rookie 4th round pick
I was shopping Royal for a TE upgrade (M Bennett, D Thomas, S Nelson)
I had other offers (Shaincoe & Boss), but I like Pettigrew's potential long term.
I like the trade a lot. I like Beanie by a very small margin over Best, but I think D-Jax over Crabtree isn't even close.
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Getinthemix
Footballguy
It is next year.
The Real Hipster Doofus
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Yellow Line is Unoffcial
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I think sons of plunder got you.kremenull said:
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