2010 Offseason Dynasty Trades (1 Viewer)

[OnThInIcE911]

.5 PPR, 2RB, 3WR plus a flexTeam A gives Sidney RiceTeam B gives Anquan Boldin, Leon Washington, and the 2.09 rookie pick.Team A (giving Rice) also has Percy Harvin, is strong at WR and very weak at RB.

I like your side quite a bit.

 

[Todem]

Team A gives:

Cutler

2.1 2010 Rookie pick

Team B recieves:

Tom Brady

Clinton Portis

12 team PPR scoring

 

[JohnnyU]

Team A gives:Cutler2.1 2010 Rookie pickTeam B recieves:Tom BradyClinton Portis12 team PPR scoring

Advantage Team B

 

[No Way Jose]

I couldn't even get a late 1st for Mike Sims-Walker. He's a hold right now, but if you're dead set on moving him, then a 2nd round pick is probably an accurate reflection of his value.

I would take MSW over any 2010 rookie receiver not named Dez Bryant.For whatever reason he was dropped before our Rookie/fa draft and he was taken with the 1.5. Then was traded for Maclin. MSW was injured part of last year, but I don't see him being injured any more the most wr's are.

 

[Instinctive]

Team A gives:Cutler2.1 2010 Rookie pickTeam B recieves:Tom BradyClinton Portis12 team PPR scoring

Advantage Team B

Wow. I think it's a pretty dead even trade. Portis is done IMO, so ti was Cutler and 2.1 for Brady. Cutler, also IMO, is gonna score about as much a sBrady for 3-5 years. And then Brady could retire and Cutler will have 5 years more.

 

[pyite76]

Team A gives:Cutler2.1 2010 Rookie pickTeam B recieves:Tom BradyClinton Portis12 team PPR scoring

Advantage Team B

Wow. I think it's a pretty dead even trade. Portis is done IMO, so ti was Cutler and 2.1 for Brady. Cutler, also IMO, is gonna score about as much a sBrady for 3-5 years. And then Brady could retire and Cutler will have 5 years more.

If you think Portis is done (I agree) and Cutler will match Brady, and outlast him by 5 years, plus he got 2.01, how is it dead even? In a dynasty league I'd take Cutler and 2.01 for Brady and not think twice about it. Even if it was just to get rid of Portis and still get value. I hate letting guys "die" on my team, and I think Portis is about to expire on a lot of dynasty teams after this season. Kudos to that owner for getting value in return.

 

[JohnnyU]

Team A gives:Cutler2.1 2010 Rookie pickTeam B recieves:Tom BradyClinton Portis12 team PPR scoring

Advantage Team B

Wow. I think it's a pretty dead even trade. Portis is done IMO, so ti was Cutler and 2.1 for Brady. Cutler, also IMO, is gonna score about as much a sBrady for 3-5 years. And then Brady could retire and Cutler will have 5 years more.

Portis has nothing to do with my opinion. I just don't think Cutler and the 2.01 is anywhere near the value of Brady. I personally don't think Cutler is all that good and the 2.01 is pretty much a crapshoot.

 

[5Rings]

Team A gets:Reggie Wayne2010 2.10Team B gets:2010 1.022010 1.042010 2.06

Takes the steam out of the "Reggie Wayne has lost all his trade value this offseason" meme.

Because one person in one league valued him highly?There are about 6000 trades in this thread alone that wouldn't fly in 99% of fantasy football leagues. One guy making a silly trade doesn't dictate a player's trade value in normal leagues.

What do we know about the quality of the league, or the Wayne-acquiring owner that allows you to make this judgment? Is this a very high price for Wayne? Hell yes, but remember the price is set by the buyer who values him highest. My point is that Wayne's value is high-variance; different owners will value him VERY differently this offseason (FBG still has him as a top-five Dynasty WR last time I checked, whereas a minority of dynasty players seem to consider his value to be in the WR15-20 range).There have been MULTIPLE references to Wayne's value "falling of a cliff", or "dropping like a stone" this offseason (based on a "disappointing 100/1200/10 season, but that's another story). I'm not arguing in any way that Wayne is a consensus top 5 dynasty WR. I'm arguing that there is also no consensus that his value has dropped to WR2 territory. In fact my argument is that there's very little consensus amongst dynasty owners about exactly where to value him, and that where this occurs, his value will more often be set by the owner who sees him as a top dynasty WR and is willing to pay based on that evaluation.

Would you say that the trade value of Steven Jackson and Frank Gore has fallen off a cliff this year, as compared to what it was at this point last year?

Wayne and Gore will be on lots of championship rosters next season. Use the herd mentality that is prevalent here to your advantage.

 

[Todem]

Team A gives:Cutler2.1 2010 Rookie pickTeam B recieves:Tom BradyClinton Portis12 team PPR scoring

Advantage Team B

Wow. I think it's a pretty dead even trade. Portis is done IMO, so ti was Cutler and 2.1 for Brady. Cutler, also IMO, is gonna score about as much a sBrady for 3-5 years. And then Brady could retire and Cutler will have 5 years more.

Portis has nothing to do with my opinion. I just don't think Cutler and the 2.01 is anywhere near the value of Brady. I personally don't think Cutler is all that good and the 2.01 is pretty much a crapshoot.

My thoughts on why I made the deal for Brady...his upside is far better than Cutler at this point. Cutler is a mess his team is not very talented...and he will be learning a Martz system which takes a year to grasp...and quite frankly....I used to love Cutlers potential but realized after last season and watching him...he is a bonehead.Give me Brady...who I plug into my lineup every week and never look back. And as far as the 2.1? The talent drop off after 1.7- 1.8 is pretty steep this year IMO. Portis was a throw in for me as I already own Larry Johnson.I don't think Cutlers upside is worth sitting around for when I can get a pretty damm good QB in Brady who also IMO will be back above 30 TD's this season. Oh and I also own Eli Manning as a back up....he and Cutler are going to have similar numbers this season...heck Manning may out play him again this year. And in fact I love Mannings upside over Cutler long term with Nicks, Smith and Manningham.I thought Brady was the best player hands down in the trade. Anyway...if Cutler pans out to be a star....then I eat crow on this deal. But last year told me a lot about Cutler....he looked horrific and showed me he does not have football smarts. I still think Denver was nuts in dealing him....but he may not be who I thought he would become.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Wayne and Gore will be on lots of championship rosters next season. Use the herd mentality that is prevalent here to your advantage.

That has absolutely nothing to do with the question I was asking, or the point I was making.

 

[thecardiackid]

.5 PPR, 2RB, 3WR plus a flexTeam A gives Sidney RiceTeam B gives Anquan Boldin, Leon Washington, and the 2.09 rookie pick.Team A (giving Rice) also has Percy Harvin, is strong at WR and very weak at RB.

So, Team A is now less strong @ WR, and still very weak @ RB. The 2.09 is almost pointless. If Boldin was 26, I'd be OK with this, but he's got maybe 2 years on a new (run focused) team.

 

[Redmen62]

Wayne and Gore will be on lots of championship rosters next season. Use the herd mentality that is prevalent here to your advantage.

That has absolutely nothing to do with the question I was asking, or the point I was making.

Gore was traded for the 1.02 in one of my leagues. I've asked about him in another league and was told that MSW plus Steve Smith NYG plus a second rounder wasn't even close. I don't think Gore's value has dropped off a cliff, no.SJax I'm not so sure- he's pretty similar to Wayne in that he'll have a very wide value "spread" between owners depending on where they see their team.

 

[Redmen62]

.5 PPR, 2RB, 3WR plus a flexTeam A gives Sidney RiceTeam B gives Anquan Boldin, Leon Washington, and the 2.09 rookie pick.Team A (giving Rice) also has Percy Harvin, is strong at WR and very weak at RB.

So, Team A is now less strong @ WR, and still very weak @ RB. The 2.09 is almost pointless. If Boldin was 26, I'd be OK with this, but he's got maybe 2 years on a new (run focused) team.

How do we know Boldin has "maybe 2 years"? Top WRs typically last much longer. And the guy who plays the most similar style to Boldin- Hines Ward- has been written off as fantasy coal several times, and still produced last year at 33. I actually traded for Hines Ward four years ago, when Ward was the same age Anquan is now. I got him for a song (Reggie Brown for Hines Ward, Leon Washington and a draft pick) because, the guy said, he was "worried that Ward's physical style of play had caught up to him". Ward was considered old and busted, and for at least that owner, Reggie Brown was the new hotness based on a couple of big games for an Eagles team that was doing its new-primary-target-every-couple-of-games thing that it used to do.Someone smart (maybe SSOG) said recently that young WRs with upside were the most overvalued commodity in fantasy. While I don't necessarily agree, I do think proven veteran WRs are by far the most undervalued commodity. Sidney's obviously more than just a young WR with upside, and I certainly am not comparing him to Reggie #######' Brown. I obviously like the Sidney side of the deal, but rumours of Anquan Boldin's demise have been greatly exaggerated imo.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

1 PPR 2 RB 2 WR 3 Flex

Team A:

Knowshwon Moreno

Lesean McCoy

Jeremy Maclin

Team B

Donald Brown

Brian Westbrook

Vincent Jackson

 

[Redmen62]

1 PPR 2 RB 2 WR 3 FlexTeam A: Knowshwon MorenoLesean McCoyJeremy MaclinTeam BDonald BrownBrian WestbrookVincent Jackson

Like Team A's side a lot despite not being very high on either Knowshon or McCoy.

 

[Todem]

Team A Gives:

2010 1.6

2010 2.1

2010 2.6

Team B gives

Randy Moss

Mike Bell

Team A starting lineup:

Peyton Manning

Chris Johnson

Frank Gore

Marion Barber

Randy Moss

Anquan Boldin

Marques Colston

Fred Davis

 

[Todem]

.5 PPR, 2RB, 3WR plus a flex

Team A gives Sidney Rice

Team B gives Anquan Boldin, Leon Washington, and the 2.09 rookie pick.

Team A (giving Rice) also has Percy Harvin, is strong at WR and very weak at RB.

So, Team A is now less strong @ WR, and still very weak @ RB. The 2.09 is almost pointless. If Boldin was 26, I'd be OK with this, but he's got maybe 2 years on a new (run focused) team.

How do we know Boldin has "maybe 2 years"? Top WRs typically last much longer. And the guy who plays the most similar style to Boldin- Hines Ward- has been written off as fantasy coal several times, and still produced last year at 33. I actually traded for Hines Ward four years ago, when Ward was the same age Anquan is now. I got him for a song (Reggie Brown for Hines Ward, Leon Washington and a draft pick) because, the guy said, he was "worried that Ward's physical style of play had caught up to him". Ward was considered old and busted, and for at least that owner, Reggie Brown was the new hotness based on a couple of big games for an Eagles team that was doing its new-primary-target-every-couple-of-games thing that it used to do.Someone smart (maybe SSOG) said recently that young WRs with upside were the most overvalued commodity in fantasy. While I don't necessarily agree, I do think proven veteran WRs are by far the most undervalued commodity.

Sidney's obviously more than just a young WR with upside, and I certainly am not comparing him to Reggie #######' Brown. I obviously like the Sidney side of the deal, but rumours of Anquan Boldin's demise have been greatly exaggerated imo.

 

[thecardiackid]

.5 PPR, 2RB, 3WR plus a flex

Team A gives Sidney Rice

Team B gives Anquan Boldin, Leon Washington, and the 2.09 rookie pick.

Team A (giving Rice) also has Percy Harvin, is strong at WR and very weak at RB.

So, Team A is now less strong @ WR, and still very weak @ RB. The 2.09 is almost pointless. If Boldin was 26, I'd be OK with this, but he's got maybe 2 years on a new (run focused) team.

How do we know Boldin has "maybe 2 years"? Top WRs typically last much longer. And the guy who plays the most similar style to Boldin- Hines Ward- has been written off as fantasy coal several times, and still produced last year at 33. I actually traded for Hines Ward four years ago, when Ward was the same age Anquan is now. I got him for a song (Reggie Brown for Hines Ward, Leon Washington and a draft pick) because, the guy said, he was "worried that Ward's physical style of play had caught up to him". Ward was considered old and busted, and for at least that owner, Reggie Brown was the new hotness based on a couple of big games for an Eagles team that was doing its new-primary-target-every-couple-of-games thing that it used to do.Someone smart (maybe SSOG) said recently that young WRs with upside were the most overvalued commodity in fantasy. While I don't necessarily agree, I do think proven veteran WRs are by far the most undervalued commodity.

Sidney's obviously more than just a young WR with upside, and I certainly am not comparing him to Reggie #######' Brown. I obviously like the Sidney side of the deal, but rumours of Anquan Boldin's demise have been greatly exaggerated imo.

OK, maybe I'm being a little short sighted on Boldin's future potential and possible longevity here, but it's still selling low on Rice (as I think we've all agreed). Personally, I'd be surprised if Boldin is anything more than a WR3 - flex / fill in type of WR moving forward w/ him in BAL. And, my "sell low" opinion on the deal is probably more about *thown in* Leon and a 2.9 pick. Whether or not Favre comes back w/ Rice also impacts how this one will ultimately turn out in the shorter term.And (IMO again) Boldin's shelf life is not going to be 35+ (he'll be 30 mid season), mostly due to his style of play on the field, and therefore his potential to miss games on a somewhat regular basis. I guess we'll all find out sooner than later about how BAL will utilize him, but let's just optimistically assume he gets something similar to Mason's #'s in that offense. Anyone in a non-ppr league < 14 teams, who is comfortably plugging in Mason's recent production in thier WR2 slot every week? And Mason + Rice are still there to share receptions with.

 

[HenryMuto]

Team A gives Sidney RiceTeam B gives Anquan Boldin, Leon Washington, and the 2.09 rookie pick.

I have Boldin and I am trying to deal him and only wish I could get a guy like Rice in return.I am being stone walled in my attemps to deal him.Love the trade fro team A just hope Minny finds a QB once Favre finally retires.

 

[Malabar]

OK, maybe I'm being a little short sighted on Boldin's future potential and possible longevity here, but it's still selling low on Rice (as I think we've all agreed). Personally, I'd be surprised if Boldin is anything more than a WR3 - flex / fill in type of WR moving forward w/ him in BAL. And, my "sell low" opinion on the deal is probably more about *thown in* Leon and a 2.9 pick. Whether or not Favre comes back w/ Rice also impacts how this one will ultimately turn out in the shorter term.And (IMO again) Boldin's shelf life is ot going to be 35+ (he'll be 30 mid season), mostly due to his style of play on the field, and therefore his potential to miss games on a somewhat regular basis. I guess we'll all find out sooner than later about how BAL will utilize him, but let's just optimistically assume he gets something similar to Mason's #'s in that offense. Anyone in a non-ppr league < 14 teams, who is comfortably plugging in Mason's recent production in thier WR2 slot every week? And Mason + Rice are still there to share receptions with.

Yes, Boldin may not play until 35, but IMO it's not unrealistic for him to play 2-3 more really good years. Personally i'd be surprised if Boldin is not at worst a WR2 this year. Ray Rice will undoubtablly not reach 70+ balls again with the added weapons BAL got. And if Flacco, who was on pace for 4050 yds thru the first 8 games last season, i'd be very surprised if Boldin doesnt get anywhere from 1100-1200 of those yds in 16 games.

 

[thecardiackid]

OK, maybe I'm being a little short sighted on Boldin's future potential and possible longevity here, but it's still selling low on Rice (as I think we've all agreed). Personally, I'd be surprised if Boldin is anything more than a WR3 - flex / fill in type of WR moving forward w/ him in BAL. And, my "sell low" opinion on the deal is probably more about *thown in* Leon and a 2.9 pick. Whether or not Favre comes back w/ Rice also impacts how this one will ultimately turn out in the shorter term.And (IMO again) Boldin's shelf life is ot going to be 35+ (he'll be 30 mid season), mostly due to his style of play on the field, and therefore his potential to miss games on a somewhat regular basis. I guess we'll all find out sooner than later about how BAL will utilize him, but let's just optimistically assume he gets something similar to Mason's #'s in that offense. Anyone in a non-ppr league < 14 teams, who is comfortably plugging in Mason's recent production in thier WR2 slot every week? And Mason + Rice are still there to share receptions with.

Yes, Boldin may not play until 35, but IMO it's not unrealistic for him to play 2-3 more really good years. Personally i'd be surprised if Boldin is not at worst a WR2 this year. Ray Rice will undoubtablly not reach 70+ balls again with the added weapons BAL got. And if Flacco, who was on pace for 4050 yds thru the first 8 games last season, i'd be very surprised if Boldin doesnt get anywhere from 1100-1200 of those yds in 16 games.

OK, and that's why we all play this game - typically with funds or *units* involved - along w/ the pride of hanging banners. But, the point of this debate is whether or not those limited seasons of (possibly) 1100 yards over the next couple or few years (and add in his average of about 6-7 tds/yr) + some trade scraps is worth dealing the potential of S Rice for the next 10 yrs. My concern w/ Boldin's new home is more about the passing game opportunities in BAL vs. his personal potential, had he landed in a better situation. Can that change? Sure, if Flacco somehow turns into Schaub and the OC decides to pass more.IMO - these are the types of trades that come back to haunt dynasty owners (dealing high upside players like S Rice). I'll be shocked if Boldin is > Rice this season - let alone the next 5+ years. LW and the rookie pick appear (at least now) to be almost pointless. Maybe I'm completely missing the boat on LW's future in SEA.If your team is desperate enough for RB help to consider moving S Rice, and the solution is to deal Rice for Boldin; I'd think most GM's would try to get something better than Leon (coming off a major injury - who may start the season on the PUP list, and is on a team w/ a new coach and lots of ??s @ RB) and a end of the 2nd rookie pick.

 

[Todem]

Team A gives Sidney RiceTeam B gives Anquan Boldin, Leon Washington, and the 2.09 rookie pick.

I have Boldin and I am trying to deal him and only wish I could get a guy like Rice in return.I am being stone walled in my attemps to deal him.Love the trade fro team A just hope Minny finds a QB once Favre finally retires.

4 weeks into the season...everyone will be knocking on your door for Boldin.

 

[Malabar]

OK, maybe I'm being a little short sighted on Boldin's future potential and possible longevity here, but it's still selling low on Rice (as I think we've all agreed). Personally, I'd be surprised if Boldin is anything more than a WR3 - flex / fill in type of WR moving forward w/ him in BAL. And, my "sell low" opinion on the deal is probably more about *thown in* Leon and a 2.9 pick. Whether or not Favre comes back w/ Rice also impacts how this one will ultimately turn out in the shorter term.And (IMO again) Boldin's shelf life is ot going to be 35+ (he'll be 30 mid season), mostly due to his style of play on the field, and therefore his potential to miss games on a somewhat regular basis. I guess we'll all find out sooner than later about how BAL will utilize him, but let's just optimistically assume he gets something similar to Mason's #'s in that offense. Anyone in a non-ppr league < 14 teams, who is comfortably plugging in Mason's recent production in thier WR2 slot every week? And Mason + Rice are still there to share receptions with.

Yes, Boldin may not play until 35, but IMO it's not unrealistic for him to play 2-3 more really good years. Personally i'd be surprised if Boldin is not at worst a WR2 this year. Ray Rice will undoubtablly not reach 70+ balls again with the added weapons BAL got. And if Flacco, who was on pace for 4050 yds thru the first 8 games last season, i'd be very surprised if Boldin doesnt get anywhere from 1100-1200 of those yds in 16 games.

OK, and that's why we all play this game - typically with funds or *units* involved - along w/ the pride of hanging banners. But, the point of this debate is whether or not those limited seasons of (possibly) 1100 yards over the next couple or few years (and add in his average of about 6-7 tds/yr) + some trade scraps is worth dealing the potential of S Rice for the next 10 yrs. My concern w/ Boldin's new home is more about the passing game opportunities in BAL vs. his personal potential, had he landed in a better situation. Can that change? Sure, if Flacco somehow turns into Schaub and the OC decides to pass more.IMO - these are the types of trades that come back to haunt dynasty owners (dealing high upside players like S Rice). I'll be shocked if Boldin is > Rice this season - let alone the next 5+ years. LW and the rookie pick appear (at least now) to be almost pointless. Maybe I'm completely missing the boat on LW's future in SEA.If your team is desperate enough for RB help to consider moving S Rice, and the solution is to deal Rice for Boldin; I'd think most GM's would try to get something better than Leon (coming off a major injury - who may start the season on the PUP list, and is on a team w/ a new coach and lots of ??s @ RB) and a end of the 2nd rookie pick.

I was commenting only on the fact that you mentioned Boldin will only be a WR3 for this season, and his future value. I do agree with you that S.Rice for Boldin and some scrubs, if i was a S.Rice owner, I probably wont do EVEN if i'm liking Boldin for the next 2 years. I would definitely try to get more than 2.09 and Leon Washington, because of the super high value that S.Rice commands right now.It's the same kind of trade that happened in one of my leagues. Miles Austin was traded for SSmith CAR, Reggie Bush, and a 2011 1st. A high upside player like Miles who already had a breakout year like Rice, for an older WR in SSmith just like Boldin and some other pieces. I'm assuming you think that R.Bush and 2011 1st > LW and 2.09, but that still may not be enough for some owners to trade a "young upside WR" like Miles or Rice.

 

[hostile]

12 team PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DST

Team A gives: 1.01/Garcon

Team B gives: Austin/1.08/2.04

 

[Todem]

12 team PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DSTTeam A gives: 1.01/GarconTeam B gives: Austin/1.08/2.04

Long term....don't like it. I rather have Dez Bryant all day than Austin and say Tate or who ever you take at 1.8. And Garcon was a nice throw in.Team B wins.

 

[Pack43]

12 team PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DSTTeam A gives: 1.01/GarconTeam B gives: Austin/1.08/2.04

Long term....don't like it. I rather have Dez Bryant all day than Austin and say Tate or who ever you take at 1.8. And Garcon was a nice throw in.Team B wins.

I'm just the opposite, like the A side by quite a bit. But I think Austin>1.01.

 

[LBH]

Chris Johnson/Cotchery/2011 2nd for Jamaal Charles/M.Crabtree

 

[Mimo]

Chris Johnson/Cotchery/2011 2nd for Jamaal Charles/M.Crabtree

I'd move that to get CJ without blinking

 

[HenryMuto]

Chris Johnson/Cotchery/2011 2nd for Jamaal Charles/M.Crabtree

I rather have Chris Johnson side

 

[n20]

non-ppr, 10 team standard scoring, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DST

Team A gives: Fitzgerald and Mendenhall

Team B gives: Chris Johnson

 

[HenryMuto]

3 way trade completed

Team A RECEIVES 1.02, 3.01, 2nd Rnd (2011) AND GIVES UP A-Boldin, 3.09

Team B RECEIVES M-Ryan, 2.01, 3.09, 1st Rnd (2011), 1st Rnd (2012) AND GIVES UP M-Colston, 3.01

Team C RECEIVES M-Colston, A-Boldin AND GIVES UP 1.02, 2.01, Ryan, 1st Rnd (2011), 1st Rnd (2012)

 

[ChuckLiddell]

1 PPR 2 RB 2 WR 3 FlexTeam A: Knowshwon MorenoLesean McCoyJeremy MaclinTeam BDonald BrownBrian WestbrookVincent Jackson

Like Team A's side a lot despite not being very high on either Knowshon or McCoy.

Funny...I love team Bs side of this one, and by a lot. VJax is easily the best player in this deal. I would probably trade Moreno, McCoy, and Maclin for VJax alone. Throw in Donald Brown, who has similar talent to Moreno and McCoy, and that makes it a no-brainer for me.

 

[Mimo]

1 PPR 2 RB 2 WR 3 Flex

Team A:

Knowshwon Moreno

Lesean McCoy

Jeremy Maclin

Team B

Donald Brown

Brian Westbrook

Vincent Jackson

Like Team A's side a lot despite not being very high on either Knowshon or McCoy.

Funny...I love team Bs side of this one, and by a lot. VJax is easily the best player in this deal. I would probably trade Moreno, McCoy, and Maclin for VJax alone. Throw in Donald Brown, who has similar talent to Moreno and McCoy, and that makes it a no-brainer for me.

I like VJax too but I'm not giving Moreno, McCoy and Maclin for him

 

[Multiple Scores]

Chris Johnson/Cotchery/2011 2nd for Jamaal Charles/M.Crabtree

I'd move that to get CJ without blinking

same here

 

[ChuckLiddell]

1 PPR 2 RB 2 WR 3 Flex

Team A:

Knowshwon Moreno

Lesean McCoy

Jeremy Maclin

Team B

Donald Brown

Brian Westbrook

Vincent Jackson

Like Team A's side a lot despite not being very high on either Knowshon or McCoy.

Funny...I love team Bs side of this one, and by a lot. VJax is easily the best player in this deal. I would probably trade Moreno, McCoy, and Maclin for VJax alone. Throw in Donald Brown, who has similar talent to Moreno and McCoy, and that makes it a no-brainer for me.

I like VJax too but I'm not giving Moreno, McCoy and Maclin for him

Depends how you view those players. I dont see Moreno or McCoy as anything other than marginal talents in a dynasty format. I like Maclin, but I would strongly consider trading 2 marginal RBs, and a decent WR for a top 10 dynasty WR.

If you view Moreno and McCoy as more than marginal talents, then you would clearly not consider the trade.

 

[Hawkfire]

What do you think of this trade? 12 team league, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 Flex, 1TE, 1TD

Team A gives up Marion Barber, Anthony Gonzalez and 1.11

Team B gives up Justin Fosett, 1.06

No starter caliber RB will be available at 11. Pick 6 should net Team A - Hardesty, Best or Tate

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

1 PPR 2 RB 2 WR 3 Flex

Team A:

Knowshwon Moreno

Lesean McCoy

Jeremy Maclin

Team B

Donald Brown

Brian Westbrook

Vincent Jackson

Like Team A's side a lot despite not being very high on either Knowshon or McCoy.

Funny...I love team Bs side of this one, and by a lot. VJax is easily the best player in this deal. I would probably trade Moreno, McCoy, and Maclin for VJax alone. Throw in Donald Brown, who has similar talent to Moreno and McCoy, and that makes it a no-brainer for me.

I like VJax too but I'm not giving Moreno, McCoy and Maclin for him

Depends how you view those players. I dont see Moreno or McCoy as anything other than marginal talents in a dynasty format. I like Maclin, but I would strongly consider trading 2 marginal RBs, and a decent WR for a top 10 dynasty WR.

If you view Moreno and McCoy as more than marginal talents, then you would clearly not consider the trade.

I am team B, and after spending the offseason looking to get some value for those 2 backs I was happy to get V Jax. I like Maclin as well - I'm a Mizzou fan, but the way I view this trade is this:McCoy for D. Brown - We saw what McCoy could do last year and it just wasn't that impressive. D. Brown is still a little more of an unknown and entrenched in a RBBC. Both are on explosive offenses, but I see their situations having the opportunity to completely switch by 2011 when Philly realizes they need to draft another back, and Indy decides they can let Addai walk. We know McCoy is going to get chances this year, and we know D Brown owners are going to have to wait it out. The risk/reward is there and I took it considering McCoy just didn't look that great to me.

Moreno/Maclin for VJax - If you like Moreno then you like that side of the trade, but to me Moreno looked awful. Now the offense has been completely dismantled and it may take a couple season for Thomas and Tebow to get it going again. He's going to be force fed the ball, I just don't see him doing much with it. I view VJax as a top 5 WR entering his prime.

This gives me a WR core of AJ, BMarsh, VJax, Moss and MSW. (You can start 4 WR)

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

I gave: 2011 2nd (early), 2011 second (early to mid round)

I got: Zack Miller OAK

 

[OnThInIcE911]

I gave: 2011 2nd (early), 2011 second (early to mid round)I got: Zack Miller OAK

I like your side

 

[Ultima Thule]

Team A gives 2010 1.05 and 2010 3.05

Team B gives 2010 1.08 and 2010 2.08

Team A gives LeSean McCoy and 2010 2.08 ( from 1st trade)

Team C gives 2011 1st (likely high pick) and 2010 2.03

1.08 became Aurelious Benn and 2.03 became Sam Bradford

1.05 was Hardesty

 

[Kree]

IDP PPR, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 2 OP

Team A gives Hakeem Nicks

Team B gives Julius Peppers, Elvis Dumervil and Jacoby Jones

 

[jonboltz]

14 Team PPR, can start 1 rb / 3 wr / 2 flex; Salary cap dynasty (22 player, $400 cap)

Gave up: 2.02, 2.09 (salary would be $2 per pick)

Receiving: WR Steve Breaston ($11 salary)

My team:

QB Kolb, Freeman

RB Deangelo, Harrison, L Washington, McClain

WR Holmes, Wallace, Breaston, Thomas (Was), Thomas (Jax), Bess, Jones (Tex), Heyward-Bey, Robinson (Stl)

TE Miller (Oak), Davis, Scheffler

With cap room available to get a top 5 WR and another top 30 WR/RB.

 

[klob]

10 Team PPR, 1 qb / 2 rb / 2 wr / 1 te / 2 flex

Team A gave up:

Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB

Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.10

Team B gave up:

McCoy, LeSean PHI RB

Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.03

Year 2011 Round 1 Draft Pick

Year 2011 Round 3 Draft Pick

Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick

 

[Go deep]

12 team PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DSTTeam A gives: 1.01/GarconTeam B gives: Austin/1.08/2.04

Long term....don't like it. I rather have Dez Bryant all day than Austin and say Tate or who ever you take at 1.8. And Garcon was a nice throw in.Team B wins.

I'm just the opposite, like the A side by quite a bit. But I think Austin>1.01.

Austin > 1.012.04 = Garcon1.08 thats just a bonus

 

[Go deep]

Team A gives:

Cutler

2.1 2010 Rookie pick

Team B recieves:

Tom Brady

Clinton Portis

12 team PPR scoring

Advantage Team B

Wow. I think it's a pretty dead even trade. Portis is done IMO, so ti was Cutler and 2.1 for Brady. Cutler, also IMO, is gonna score about as much a sBrady for 3-5 years. And then Brady could retire and Cutler will have 5 years more.

Portis has nothing to do with my opinion. I just don't think Cutler and the 2.01 is anywhere near the value of Brady. I personally don't think Cutler is all that good and the 2.01 is pretty much a crapshoot.

My thoughts on why I made the deal for Brady...his upside is far better than Cutler at this point. Cutler is a mess his team is not very talented...and he will be learning a Martz system which takes a year to grasp...and quite frankly....I used to love Cutlers potential but realized after last season and watching him...he is a bonehead.

Give me Brady...who I plug into my lineup every week and never look back. And as far as the 2.1? The talent drop off after 1.7- 1.8 is pretty steep this year IMO. Portis was a throw in for me as I already own Larry Johnson.

I don't think Cutlers upside is worth sitting around for when I can get a pretty damm good QB in Brady who also IMO will be back above 30 TD's this season. Oh and I also own Eli Manning as a back up....he and Cutler are going to have similar numbers this season...heck Manning may out play him again this year. And in fact I love Mannings upside over Cutler long term with Nicks, Smith and Manningham.

I thought Brady was the best player hands down in the trade. Anyway...if Cutler pans out to be a star....then I eat crow on this deal. But last year told me a lot about Cutler....he looked horrific and showed me he does not have football smarts. I still think Denver was nuts in dealing him....but he may not be who I thought he would become.

So you think he will be back to do something he has only done once in his career?I have Cutler one spot ahead of Brady, and since Portis is useless, i would take the 2.1 over him. Not a horrible trade, but i think you lost this one.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

12 team PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DSTTeam A gives: 1.01/GarconTeam B gives: Austin/1.08/2.04

Long term....don't like it. I rather have Dez Bryant all day than Austin and say Tate or who ever you take at 1.8. And Garcon was a nice throw in.Team B wins.

I'm just the opposite, like the A side by quite a bit. But I think Austin>1.01.

Austin > 1.012.04 = Garcon1.08 thats just a bonus

I disagree. For me...Dez > AustinGarcon = 1.08 2.04 helps to even it out but not by enough.But I am a huge Dez fan.

 

[Go deep]

12 team PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DSTTeam A gives: 1.01/GarconTeam B gives: Austin/1.08/2.04

Long term....don't like it. I rather have Dez Bryant all day than Austin and say Tate or who ever you take at 1.8. And Garcon was a nice throw in.Team B wins.

I'm just the opposite, like the A side by quite a bit. But I think Austin>1.01.

Austin > 1.012.04 = Garcon1.08 thats just a bonus

I disagree. For me...Dez > AustinGarcon = 1.08 2.04 helps to even it out but not by enough.But I am a huge Dez fan.

And a huge Garcon fan apparently.

 

[NoGum]

I disagree. For me...Dez > Austin

Garcon = 1.08

2.04 helps to even it out but not by enough.

But I am a huge Dez fan.

And a huge Garcon fan apparently.

1.08 for Garcon is accuratehttp://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...8&hl=garcon

 

[OnThInIcE911]

12 team PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DSTTeam A gives: 1.01/GarconTeam B gives: Austin/1.08/2.04

Long term....don't like it. I rather have Dez Bryant all day than Austin and say Tate or who ever you take at 1.8. And Garcon was a nice throw in.Team B wins.

I'm just the opposite, like the A side by quite a bit. But I think Austin>1.01.

Austin > 1.012.04 = Garcon1.08 thats just a bonus

You were closeAustin > 1.011.08 = Garcon2.04 thats just a bonusTeam A wins this and I'm not even that high on Austin.

 

[jsharlan]

In a PPR dynasty league that starts 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DEF, I was offered Felix Jones for Dwayne Bowe straight up. I could not hit accept fast enough. The bonus was that this league also has a salary cap and Jones had a cheaper price tag than Bowe.