I seriously doubt you would find 10 people out of 100 who would take Austin over the 1.01.You were closeAustin > 1.011.08 = Garcon2.04 thats just a bonusTeam A wins this and I'm not even that high on Austin.I'm just the opposite, like the A side by quite a bit. But I think Austin>1.01.Long term....don't like it. I rather have Dez Bryant all day than Austin and say Tate or who ever you take at 1.8. And Garcon was a nice throw in.Team B wins.12 team PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DSTTeam A gives: 1.01/GarconTeam B gives: Austin/1.08/2.04Austin > 1.012.04 = Garcon1.08 thats just a bonus
1I seriously doubt you would find 10 people out of 100 who would take Austin over the 1.01.
* Team A gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Hill, Jason SFO WR;Jones, James GBP WR * Team B gave up Orton, Kyle DEN QB;Jackson, Steven STL RB;Ochocinco, Chad CIN WR

* Team A gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Hill, Jason SFO WR;Jones, James GBP WR * Team B gave up Orton, Kyle DEN QB;Jackson, Steven STL RB;Ochocinco, Chad CIN WR![]()
I think he's saying that is a HORRIBLE deal for team A. You could add J Hill and J Jones to the other side, and I still wouldn't do that deal (giving up Johnson for all of that).* Team A gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Hill, Jason SFO WR;Jones, James GBP WR * Team B gave up Orton, Kyle DEN QB;Jackson, Steven STL RB;Ochocinco, Chad CIN WR![]()
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Ok. The owner of Team B is a really close friend of mine. When he called to tell me that Team A offered that to him, I spit my beer all over my computer. I told him to accept it before Team A thought twice about it. Team A is still defending that trade, to much razzing .I think he's saying that is a HORRIBLE deal for team A. You could add J Hill and J Jones to the other side, and I still wouldn't do that deal (giving up Johnson for all of that).* Team A gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;Hill, Jason SFO WR;Jones, James GBP WR * Team B gave up Orton, Kyle DEN QB;Jackson, Steven STL RB;Ochocinco, Chad CIN WR![]()
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Really? Not the impression I get from my leagues. Looks like 6 of 7 FBG staff members have Austin ranked ahead of Dez too.I seriously doubt you would find 10 people out of 100 who would take Austin over the 1.01.
21I seriously doubt you would find 10 people out of 100 who would take Austin over the 1.01.
321I seriously doubt you would find 10 people out of 100 who would take Austin over the 1.01.
Team C gave up way too much.3 way trade completed
Team A RECEIVES 1.02, 3.01, 2nd Rnd (2011) AND GIVES UP A-Boldin, 3.09
Team B RECEIVES M-Ryan, 2.01, 3.09, 1st Rnd (2011), 1st Rnd (2012) AND GIVES UP M-Colston, 3.01
Team C RECEIVES M-Colston, A-Boldin AND GIVES UP 1.02, 2.01, Ryan, 1st Rnd (2011), 1st Rnd (2012)
4321I seriously doubt you would find 10 people out of 100 who would take Austin over the 1.01.
1.08 turned out to be Demaryius Thomas, Mathews at 1.01.You were closeAustin > 1.011.08 = Garcon2.04 thats just a bonusTeam A wins this and I'm not even that high on Austin.I'm just the opposite, like the A side by quite a bit. But I think Austin>1.01.Long term....don't like it. I rather have Dez Bryant all day than Austin and say Tate or who ever you take at 1.8. And Garcon was a nice throw in.Team B wins.12 team PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DSTTeam A gives: 1.01/GarconTeam B gives: Austin/1.08/2.04Austin > 1.012.04 = Garcon1.08 thats just a bonus
When there's two other teams in the deal and they both made out like bandits, something's wrong.Team C gave up way too much.3 way trade completed
Team A RECEIVES 1.02, 3.01, 2nd Rnd (2011) AND GIVES UP A-Boldin, 3.09
Team B RECEIVES M-Ryan, 2.01, 3.09, 1st Rnd (2011), 1st Rnd (2012) AND GIVES UP M-Colston, 3.01
Team C RECEIVES M-Colston, A-Boldin AND GIVES UP 1.02, 2.01, Ryan, 1st Rnd (2011), 1st Rnd (2012)![]()
I know it's a start 2 QB league, but wow..... Team A made out like a bandit.Start 2 QB league (not many of these out there, I guess)10 teamsTeam A gets: JAY CUTLER JEREMY MACLIN 2011 3rd round pickTeam B gets: KYLE ORTON BRADY QUINN MATT LEINART
Love it for team A. I think the gap from Wells to Rice narrows quite a bit this year. Even now the gap between the two is not worth someone as good as Roddy.fbomb said:12 team PPR, start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 2 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1TE, 1K, 1DTeam A gives: Ray Rice, Anthony Dixon, 2011 2ndTeam B gives: Wells, Roddy, 2011 3rd
Hate it for Team A.No way Wells is anywhere close to the value of Rice. Hightower still factors in, still gets rec's and still sees goal line. Rice had ~2000 yds from scrimmage last year. Depending where that 2nd pick is, that trade could be a huge loss for Team A.As a Rice owner, no way I trade Rice for Wells/White, forget about giving up Dixon and a 2nd rounder from next year too, which figures to be a very deep class.Love it for team A. I think the gap from Wells to Rice narrows quite a bit this year. Even now the gap between the two is not worth someone as good as Roddy.fbomb said:12 team PPR, start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 2 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1TE, 1K, 1DTeam A gives: Ray Rice, Anthony Dixon, 2011 2ndTeam B gives: Wells, Roddy, 2011 3rd
It was a big upgrade to your team. Only thing is your depth at RB is pretty weak (even after your 1st this year), and now you don't have any chance of replenishing that unless you sell/downgrade one of your WRsPhillip Rivers QB SDShawn Nelson TE BUF2011 1st round pick2011 2nd round pick2011 2nd round pickMatt Hasselbeck QB SEABrandon Pettigrew TE DET4 pt passing TDs1/25 passing yardsPPR1/10 receiving yardsThe first is probably between 5th and 8th, but if that team clicks it could be pretty late.
I like all the players involved in this deal. This is an example of a good trade IMO. I agree that the gap narrows between Rice and Beanie this year, but that's speculative. It is a pretty pretty big gap between Roddy and and Anthony Dixon, but you have to spend something to get the prize (Ray Rice). I'm a Dixon fan as well. He dropped in the draft because of weight/character issues. However, Dixon appears to be on the right track and Singletary will nip any nonsense in the bud. Gore is a 225 carry back, so with Singletary wanting to run the ball more, you have to like a big back like Dixon in that offense. It's quite possible that Dixon puts up enough points to be a decent #4 back this season.Love it for team A. I think the gap from Wells to Rice narrows quite a bit this year. Even now the gap between the two is not worth someone as good as Roddy.fbomb said:12 team PPR, start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 2 flex (RB/WR/TE), 1TE, 1K, 1DTeam A gives: Ray Rice, Anthony Dixon, 2011 2ndTeam B gives: Wells, Roddy, 2011 3rd
Team A in a LANDSLIDE considering Team B can't even use McFadden.PPR TE only league
Team A gets LT2, Larry Johnson and D Keller
Team B gets Darren McFadden
I would rather have Mccoy/1.04 than Matthews.Team A gets 1.1 (Will be taking Mathews)Team B gets LeSean McCoy, 1.4 and 3.7
Some let their blind love for a NFL TEAM cloud their minds for their FANTASY TEAM. Team getting 1.1 LOVES the San Diego ChargersI would rather have Mccoy/1.04 than Matthews.Team A gets 1.1 (Will be taking Mathews)Team B gets LeSean McCoy, 1.4 and 3.7
I would rather have Dez than McCoy/1.04.I would rather have Mccoy/1.04 than Matthews.Team A gets 1.1 (Will be taking Mathews)Team B gets LeSean McCoy, 1.4 and 3.7
Not in No-PPRI would rather have Dez than McCoy/1.04.I would rather have Mccoy/1.04 than Matthews.Team A gets 1.1 (Will be taking Mathews)Team B gets LeSean McCoy, 1.4 and 3.7
Even moreso in a non-PPR, where the best of the best wideouts are worth more.Deuceman said:Not in No-PPRKing of the Jungle said:I would rather have Dez than McCoy/1.04.finito said:I would rather have Mccoy/1.04 than Matthews.Deuceman said:Team A gets 1.1 (Will be taking Mathews)Team B gets LeSean McCoy, 1.4 and 3.7
My No-PPR league had 12 RBs score more than 190 pts last year, from those 12 RBs, 8 had more than 200 pts, 7 had more than 215 pts and 4 of those were north of 250+ and we know who they are.We had 4 WRs score more than 190 pts, 3 score 200+ and none were past 215 pts.I don't own the #1 rookie pick in any No-PPR league I'm in but if I had it I'm taking the RB.Even moreso in a non-PPR, where the best of the best wideouts are worth more.Deuceman said:Not in No-PPRKing of the Jungle said:I would rather have Dez than McCoy/1.04.finito said:I would rather have Mccoy/1.04 than Matthews.Deuceman said:Team A gets 1.1 (Will be taking Mathews)Team B gets LeSean McCoy, 1.4 and 3.7
Wait, what?Even moreso in a non-PPR, where the best of the best wideouts are worth more.Deuceman said:Not in No-PPRKing of the Jungle said:I would rather have Dez than McCoy/1.04.finito said:I would rather have Mccoy/1.04 than Matthews.Deuceman said:Team A gets 1.1 (Will be taking Mathews)
Team B gets LeSean McCoy, 1.4 and 3.7
Which is exactly why you take Dez with 1.02. 12 guys at the RB position reached a similar level of production. So they aren't that scarce. If Dez becomes one of those 4 guys at the WR position performing above and beyond everyone else, you have a distinct advantage over the other teams. RBs are easy to find, and they're volatile year-to-year while the wideouts aren't near as volatile.If you get a top 5 WR, he'll probably finish in the top 10 in scoring year in and year out. RBs change around all the time, appear, come off the waiver wire, and backups produce after a simple injury. Not so at the WR position.In a non-PPR the top level WRs are worth more than in a PPRMy No-PPR league had 12 RBs score more than 190 pts last year, from those 12 RBs, 8 had more than 200 pts, 7 had more than 215 pts and 4 of those were north of 250+ and we know who they are.We had 4 WRs score more than 190 pts, 3 score 200+ and none were past 215 pts.I don't own the #1 rookie pick in any No-PPR league I'm in but if I had it I'm taking the RB.Even moreso in a non-PPR, where the best of the best wideouts are worth more.Deuceman said:Not in No-PPRKing of the Jungle said:I would rather have Dez than McCoy/1.04.
Does this mean VJax owners are beginning to panic?Team A received: Vincent Jackson/early 2nd round pickTeam B received: Hardesty/Royal/late 1st round pick
WOW! Team B gave up way too much IMO. Why do this deal? Big on Moreno or S Smith with Matt Moore? Greene >> MorenoNicks = S Smith (Car) slight edge to Nicks on age Keller > OlsenLT is just insurance for GreeneTeam A gets Greene, LT, Nicks and KellerTeam B gets Moreno, Steve Smith (Car) and Olsen
I like team b's side.Team A gave up:Jonathan StewartKevin BossTony SchefflerTeam B gave upierre ThomasJermichael FinleyBo Scaife
Wow. That is a very fair trade.Dynasty PPR
Team A gave up:
David Garrard
Arian Foster
Miles Austin
Team B gave up:
Jason Campbell
Knowshon Moreno
Steve Smith (CAR)
Seeing this makes me kick myself again for waiving Austin in 2008...considering what he netted.Personally I am not a huge Moreno fan I would rather have Austin but the trade seems fair.Dynasty PPR
Team A gave up:
David Garrard
Arian Foster
Miles Austin
Team B gave up:
Jason Campbell
Knowshon Moreno
Steve Smith (CAR)