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Feb. 24th, I think.They may just wait till the last minute, as they like to do in so many things.kaso said:
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2011 Oakland Raiders In-Season Thread (3 Viewers)
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kaso
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Makes sense that they would be working with him then. With the Seymour signing it shows that Oakland is willing to sign their players without waiting for the CBA issue to be closed off.
Chadstroma
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We tag Wimbley and extend Stanford. Not sure I like this deals. Seems like a whole lot of money for both players.
kaso
Footballguy
I agree. The money involved is surprising for both deals.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
It is hard to say really... considering we have no real idea on how the CBA will make things work out. I do think it is a good assumption that there will be more spending room but I would much rather see us tie up Aso, Miller, and Gallery than Wimbley and Stanford. I am reserving my reaction and trying to shelve my displeasure until I see how we end up with ALL the free agents we have but it does make me very uneasy.
Garrett
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I hope he can stay healthy. I thought he really helped out on run defense, but a guy his size with foot injuries scares me. I assume Oakland's medical staff has already considered all of this though.
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kaso
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Lets take a moment to play a game of What If while we wait (hopefully only another week) for a new CBA.Now that we know some of the players the Raiders have as free agents, who the Raiders have re-signed, and who has become available as teams release players. Who are the next group of guys to sign?
Yes, I'm aware of the current CBA issues, but lets ingore them for the moment and turn the conversation back to football. And yes, the real CBA will play a role in how players are signed to what terms and what kind of money. But that doesn't matter. Teams will always find a way to work within the limits of what is allowed.
So... Miller next? He has to be the next highest priority right?
Do the Raiders make a move at one of the FA WRs who were recently released, or go after a tendered WR? James Jones, MSW, and Sidney Rice come to mind.
Do they may a move to replace Gallery?
Do they go after another CB to replace Asomugha? (I'm running with the assumption he will not be back with the Raiders - even with Rod Woodson on the coaching staff.)
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RaiderBones
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I think Zack Miller and Michael Bush will be at the top of their list to re-sign. After that I don't know what Al is thinking. He is too hard to predict.
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Raiderfan32904
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It'll be interesting to see what changes new Raiders D coordinator Chuck Bresnahan will bring to this team. Here's a look at what he'll have to work with:
The Cornerbacks
Nnamdi Asomugha 6-2, 210 lb
The 8 yr vet could be the hottest FA thanks to a suspicious under performance clause. Oakland knew full well no one throws at Nnamdi and by playing Al Davis bizzaro ball Nnamdi rarely shadows teams X receiver like everyone else. Instead, like Charles Woodson before him, Nnamdi dutifully locks down and effectively takes away an entire side of the field. It’s not glamorous; it’s not filled with big plays, but its effective and a cornerstone of Oakland’s defensive scheme. Stranger things have happened and it’s always difficult to surmise what Mr. Davis will do but we're thinking there’s no way Al lets one of his greatest finds and key fixtures simply slip away.
CB Stanford Routt 6-1, 195 lb
Routt had his best year in 2010 and it earned him a massive pay raise. One that may have more to do with big Al flipping the finger to the League he never forgave and effectively warping other teams contract negotiations. Routt's never had a breakout year and it’s always suspect when a 6th yr guy suddenly plays better in a contract season. Does Routt deserve the money? Every Sunday when we see him give up a touchdown drive in the 3rd by drawing yellow and giving up a deep ball, we'd swear no, but his stats puzzlingly say otherwise. He better be golden in 2011. Especially if Nnamdi walks.
CB Chris Johnson 6-1, 200 lb
Johnson looked like he might have another good year in camp but a hammy and other dings kept him on the bench and under 100% the lion’s share of the season. He'll be back in 2011 and if he can stay healthy could turn heads again.
Walter McFadden 5-10, 180 lb
His make-up burst, play making ability and cover skills make McFadden one to watch as the Raiders try to polish this diamond in the rough. "Wheezy" as he's known by Moms, has quite the bloodline considering his brother Bryant plays for the Cardinals and his cousin, LSU's Patrick Peterson is head and shoulders the best CB prospect in this year’s draft. McFadden struggled to play catch-up after a hamstring injury in pre season stunted his growth. It couldn't have come at a worse time, since McFadden saw very little field time early on at talent laden Auburn. Six interceptions his senior year and a 101 yd pick six in the Outback Bowl saw Al Davis pull the trigger on WMC despite his less than Raider size. A sub 4.4 40 yd dash sealed the deal. If he can progress like they think he can, WMC could be a valuable Nickel corner for years to come. Just don't ask him to run support much.
CB Jeremy Ware 5-10, 185 lb
Ware showed flashes including a timely end zone pick in one of Oakland’s two wins over San Diego but fell out of favor for whatever reason and disappeared from significant game time even with Asomugha out with an ankle injury for several games. With a changing of the guard at the Coaching level, including Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator, it will be interesting to see where Ware stands especially if Oakland selects a CB high in this Aprils draft.
The Safeties
FS Hiram Eugene 6-2, 200 lb
In 5 seasons has yet to win a starting slot on what was a pretty wide open competition. Contributes on special teams and is a decent fill in.
FS Michael Huff 6-1 205 lb
Also a 5 yr vet, Huff posted career numbers and finally seems to be settling into the difficult single high safety slot only the Raiders seem to covet. It remains to be seen if Huff's banner year was motivated only by his contract year status. We'll see how that plays out soon enough.
SS Tyvon Branch 6-0, 205 lb
Branch had a solid year posting 104 tackles, 4 sacks, a forced fumble and a pick but his lack of coverage and constant bite on play fakes cost Oakland points, momentum and games in 2010.
SS Mike Mitchell 6-1, 220 lb
Rumor had it Mitchell was to be released by Coach Cable last year and over ridden by upstairs. The former 2nd round shock pick may or may not have come close to oblivion but his performance and propensity for violence against people wearing uniforms of a different color will make Raider fans happy for years to come.
S Stevie Brown 5-11, 215
He should do nothing but benefit from the presence of HOFer Rod Woodson. Brown has the instincts and ball hawking skills the Raider secondary has been missing all these long years. He also contributed on special teams and as a 7th round pick last year, comes at a more than reasonable price.
The Linebackers
MLB Rolando McClain 6-3, 255 lbs
His rookie year wasn't a Pro Bowl caliber world beater but it was good enough to improve Oakland’s offense and prove its more Davis' scheme than the players playing it. Still, McClain posted 85 tackles, half a sack an interception and more than several highlight reel beat downs the likes of which haven’t been seen in Oakland since...good gawd we can't remember when. In fact, we're of a mind if McClain had played against Jacksonville (the one game he missed out right last year) Oakland might've been 9-7 and gone to the play offs. He didn't completely solve the long runs Oakland’s traditionally gouged for (again, that’s likely Davis' fault) but Jason Campbell and the offense showed that THEY are the Oakland defenses best weapon. If they can keep McClain and co, fresh in the 4th and give them a lead to protect you will see Oakland in the play offs in the very near future.
SLB Kamerion Wimbley 6-4, 255 lbs
Wimbley recently became a double digit millionaire thanks to Al Davis and a 58 tackle, 9 sack season. In all honesty Wimbley tends to disappear off the radar too often but he was slowed with a few dings at times. This was his rep in Cleveland who selected him 13th overall back in 2006. Despite worries he may struggle to cover more agile backs and tight ends out in pattern, Wimbley silenced critics in 2010 by showing good speed and coverage skills. A lot of his sacks came in garbage time or against teams that were already blown out, so it will be interesting to see if Wimbley regresses in 2011, or if he has found a home in Silver and Black and can finally start living up to that lofty draft status and huge pay check.
WLB Quentin Groves 6-3 265 lbs
With Wimbley at Strong Side Linebacker Oakland wanted a replacement for freshly demoted LB Thomas Howard on the Weak Side. They chose yet another stalled out high draft pick in Quentin Groves. Taken 52nd overall in the 2nd round of the 2008 draft by the Jacksonville Jaguars the former Auburn pass rush specialist languished in Jacksonville and was traded to the Raiders for a 5th round pick in the 2010 draft. Groves struggled early on and also had a nagging injury that slowed him but he looked a step behind and out of sorts too often early on then around the mid way point Groves suddenly seemed to start getting it, shooting gaps in the run game, disrupting plays, making tackles and even posting an impressive safety. If Groves and Wimbley can pick up where they left off last season and continue to grow Oakland may have one of the most impressive starting Linebacking corps in the League.
MLB Ricky Brown 6-2, 235 lbs
Brown's one start last season was against Jacksonville, the League’s leading rushing team. Rookie Roland McClain was out with a foot injury and it cost the Raiders not only the game but possibly a Wild Card berth. Brown's got tenure and understands the game but he's a throw back to when footballs finest TEs ruled the AFC West. So is our next subject.
WLB Thomas Howard 6-3, 240 lbs
Howard and former D Captain Kirk Morrison were Oakland’s answer to a Division stocked with Pro Bowl caliber tight ends. Sort of. After years of poor run defense, blown assignments and horrible audibles, Oakland ditched Morrison who now plays for Jacksonville. Howard took a step backward and was demoted to back up and Special Teams play, but never faltered. He may or may not be back for the 2011 season.
LB Sam Williams 6-5, 260 lbs
Many feel Williams is a Davis favorite which would explain how a guy can play in the League 8 seasons and never be good or healthy enough to vie for a starting slot. Williams contributes occasionally on Special Teams but is costly when he sees field time. If Al Davis is still alive when they select Oakland’s 53 for 2011, Williams will probably be on the squad.
LB Travis Goethel 6-2, 240 lbs
Again, not exactly the H/W/S at the Linebacking position Oakland seems to be reaching for right now but Goethel impressed Raider coaches enough in OTAs and camp in 2010 to keep him on the roster despite back surgery that cost him most of the season. At the college level Goethel made up for a lack of size and speed with great reads and better coverage. During his limited game action in the back half of 2010 he looked out of place and step behind in coverage which is kind of to be expected with the injury rehab and first exposure to NFL speed but he started making plays against the run that show his potential.
LB Bruce Davis II 6-3, 250 lbs
He is a legacy whose father played for Oakland. Brought on as depth part way through last season to contribute on Special Teams mostly, he drew a few flags and not much else. May be one of those guys Oakland dumps and resigns back and forth for the practice squad.
LB? Quentin Scott 6-3, 220 lbs
He was signed by the Bears as a rookie UDFA, and then signed on to Oakland’s practice squad on September 23rd. He's listed as a Linebacker but was a Safety at Northern Iowa, a Safety with ball hawking skills and great instincts.
So as the Raiders name former Cincinnati, former Raider D coordinator Chuck Bresnahan new Raider D coordinator again, he'll restart his tenure with some pretty good pieces in place as far as the Linebacking corps goes but after the starting 3 there are definitely questions about depth.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Oakland add a LB prospect in the draft.
The Cornerbacks
Nnamdi Asomugha 6-2, 210 lb
The 8 yr vet could be the hottest FA thanks to a suspicious under performance clause. Oakland knew full well no one throws at Nnamdi and by playing Al Davis bizzaro ball Nnamdi rarely shadows teams X receiver like everyone else. Instead, like Charles Woodson before him, Nnamdi dutifully locks down and effectively takes away an entire side of the field. It’s not glamorous; it’s not filled with big plays, but its effective and a cornerstone of Oakland’s defensive scheme. Stranger things have happened and it’s always difficult to surmise what Mr. Davis will do but we're thinking there’s no way Al lets one of his greatest finds and key fixtures simply slip away.
CB Stanford Routt 6-1, 195 lb
Routt had his best year in 2010 and it earned him a massive pay raise. One that may have more to do with big Al flipping the finger to the League he never forgave and effectively warping other teams contract negotiations. Routt's never had a breakout year and it’s always suspect when a 6th yr guy suddenly plays better in a contract season. Does Routt deserve the money? Every Sunday when we see him give up a touchdown drive in the 3rd by drawing yellow and giving up a deep ball, we'd swear no, but his stats puzzlingly say otherwise. He better be golden in 2011. Especially if Nnamdi walks.
CB Chris Johnson 6-1, 200 lb
Johnson looked like he might have another good year in camp but a hammy and other dings kept him on the bench and under 100% the lion’s share of the season. He'll be back in 2011 and if he can stay healthy could turn heads again.
Walter McFadden 5-10, 180 lb
His make-up burst, play making ability and cover skills make McFadden one to watch as the Raiders try to polish this diamond in the rough. "Wheezy" as he's known by Moms, has quite the bloodline considering his brother Bryant plays for the Cardinals and his cousin, LSU's Patrick Peterson is head and shoulders the best CB prospect in this year’s draft. McFadden struggled to play catch-up after a hamstring injury in pre season stunted his growth. It couldn't have come at a worse time, since McFadden saw very little field time early on at talent laden Auburn. Six interceptions his senior year and a 101 yd pick six in the Outback Bowl saw Al Davis pull the trigger on WMC despite his less than Raider size. A sub 4.4 40 yd dash sealed the deal. If he can progress like they think he can, WMC could be a valuable Nickel corner for years to come. Just don't ask him to run support much.
CB Jeremy Ware 5-10, 185 lb
Ware showed flashes including a timely end zone pick in one of Oakland’s two wins over San Diego but fell out of favor for whatever reason and disappeared from significant game time even with Asomugha out with an ankle injury for several games. With a changing of the guard at the Coaching level, including Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator, it will be interesting to see where Ware stands especially if Oakland selects a CB high in this Aprils draft.
The Safeties
FS Hiram Eugene 6-2, 200 lb
In 5 seasons has yet to win a starting slot on what was a pretty wide open competition. Contributes on special teams and is a decent fill in.
FS Michael Huff 6-1 205 lb
Also a 5 yr vet, Huff posted career numbers and finally seems to be settling into the difficult single high safety slot only the Raiders seem to covet. It remains to be seen if Huff's banner year was motivated only by his contract year status. We'll see how that plays out soon enough.
SS Tyvon Branch 6-0, 205 lb
Branch had a solid year posting 104 tackles, 4 sacks, a forced fumble and a pick but his lack of coverage and constant bite on play fakes cost Oakland points, momentum and games in 2010.
SS Mike Mitchell 6-1, 220 lb
Rumor had it Mitchell was to be released by Coach Cable last year and over ridden by upstairs. The former 2nd round shock pick may or may not have come close to oblivion but his performance and propensity for violence against people wearing uniforms of a different color will make Raider fans happy for years to come.
S Stevie Brown 5-11, 215
He should do nothing but benefit from the presence of HOFer Rod Woodson. Brown has the instincts and ball hawking skills the Raider secondary has been missing all these long years. He also contributed on special teams and as a 7th round pick last year, comes at a more than reasonable price.
The Linebackers
MLB Rolando McClain 6-3, 255 lbs
His rookie year wasn't a Pro Bowl caliber world beater but it was good enough to improve Oakland’s offense and prove its more Davis' scheme than the players playing it. Still, McClain posted 85 tackles, half a sack an interception and more than several highlight reel beat downs the likes of which haven’t been seen in Oakland since...good gawd we can't remember when. In fact, we're of a mind if McClain had played against Jacksonville (the one game he missed out right last year) Oakland might've been 9-7 and gone to the play offs. He didn't completely solve the long runs Oakland’s traditionally gouged for (again, that’s likely Davis' fault) but Jason Campbell and the offense showed that THEY are the Oakland defenses best weapon. If they can keep McClain and co, fresh in the 4th and give them a lead to protect you will see Oakland in the play offs in the very near future.
SLB Kamerion Wimbley 6-4, 255 lbs
Wimbley recently became a double digit millionaire thanks to Al Davis and a 58 tackle, 9 sack season. In all honesty Wimbley tends to disappear off the radar too often but he was slowed with a few dings at times. This was his rep in Cleveland who selected him 13th overall back in 2006. Despite worries he may struggle to cover more agile backs and tight ends out in pattern, Wimbley silenced critics in 2010 by showing good speed and coverage skills. A lot of his sacks came in garbage time or against teams that were already blown out, so it will be interesting to see if Wimbley regresses in 2011, or if he has found a home in Silver and Black and can finally start living up to that lofty draft status and huge pay check.
WLB Quentin Groves 6-3 265 lbs
With Wimbley at Strong Side Linebacker Oakland wanted a replacement for freshly demoted LB Thomas Howard on the Weak Side. They chose yet another stalled out high draft pick in Quentin Groves. Taken 52nd overall in the 2nd round of the 2008 draft by the Jacksonville Jaguars the former Auburn pass rush specialist languished in Jacksonville and was traded to the Raiders for a 5th round pick in the 2010 draft. Groves struggled early on and also had a nagging injury that slowed him but he looked a step behind and out of sorts too often early on then around the mid way point Groves suddenly seemed to start getting it, shooting gaps in the run game, disrupting plays, making tackles and even posting an impressive safety. If Groves and Wimbley can pick up where they left off last season and continue to grow Oakland may have one of the most impressive starting Linebacking corps in the League.
MLB Ricky Brown 6-2, 235 lbs
Brown's one start last season was against Jacksonville, the League’s leading rushing team. Rookie Roland McClain was out with a foot injury and it cost the Raiders not only the game but possibly a Wild Card berth. Brown's got tenure and understands the game but he's a throw back to when footballs finest TEs ruled the AFC West. So is our next subject.
WLB Thomas Howard 6-3, 240 lbs
Howard and former D Captain Kirk Morrison were Oakland’s answer to a Division stocked with Pro Bowl caliber tight ends. Sort of. After years of poor run defense, blown assignments and horrible audibles, Oakland ditched Morrison who now plays for Jacksonville. Howard took a step backward and was demoted to back up and Special Teams play, but never faltered. He may or may not be back for the 2011 season.
LB Sam Williams 6-5, 260 lbs
Many feel Williams is a Davis favorite which would explain how a guy can play in the League 8 seasons and never be good or healthy enough to vie for a starting slot. Williams contributes occasionally on Special Teams but is costly when he sees field time. If Al Davis is still alive when they select Oakland’s 53 for 2011, Williams will probably be on the squad.
LB Travis Goethel 6-2, 240 lbs
Again, not exactly the H/W/S at the Linebacking position Oakland seems to be reaching for right now but Goethel impressed Raider coaches enough in OTAs and camp in 2010 to keep him on the roster despite back surgery that cost him most of the season. At the college level Goethel made up for a lack of size and speed with great reads and better coverage. During his limited game action in the back half of 2010 he looked out of place and step behind in coverage which is kind of to be expected with the injury rehab and first exposure to NFL speed but he started making plays against the run that show his potential.
LB Bruce Davis II 6-3, 250 lbs
He is a legacy whose father played for Oakland. Brought on as depth part way through last season to contribute on Special Teams mostly, he drew a few flags and not much else. May be one of those guys Oakland dumps and resigns back and forth for the practice squad.
LB? Quentin Scott 6-3, 220 lbs
He was signed by the Bears as a rookie UDFA, and then signed on to Oakland’s practice squad on September 23rd. He's listed as a Linebacker but was a Safety at Northern Iowa, a Safety with ball hawking skills and great instincts.
So as the Raiders name former Cincinnati, former Raider D coordinator Chuck Bresnahan new Raider D coordinator again, he'll restart his tenure with some pretty good pieces in place as far as the Linebacking corps goes but after the starting 3 there are definitely questions about depth.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Oakland add a LB prospect in the draft.
kaso
Footballguy
Figured I'd update the list with what we know...
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massraider
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I can answer this: Zero changes. My guess is Marshall was let go partly for blitzing too much. Certainly wasn't like he wasn't producing. Defense played its best since the Super Bowl years. Jerry MacDonald has a quick write up on Bres, and breaks down the Radiers D, as it has been for years. 4-3 Cover-1, meaning the FS is deep, alone. So we get a FS with an impossible task, and a SS that plays the run. That's why Tyvon is such a tackle monster, and why our free safeties always get blasted by the fans. They are essentially asked to back up every CB deep, and then turn around and make one-on-one tackles with no one within 125 yards of him to back him up. That Huff was able to have a good year is amazing, and he will probably go somewhere else and be a great cover safety. With the simplicity of the scheme, it is essential that the Raiders have better players at defensive linemen. Strong DL makes the back 7 look so much better, freeing up LB to make tackles, and giving the CBs less time to have to cover WRs. It's no coincidence that the defense played best when Houston and Shaugnessy emerged, Henderson was clogging lanes, and Seymour was drawing double teams. You can have 4 Nnamdi's back there, but no one can cover a WR for 5-8 seconds every play.'Raiderfan32904 said:
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RaiderBones
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From what I read it sounds like he is more suited for a 3-4 defense unless Raiders think they can turn him into a 4-3 LB, interesting.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Minor news but some news nevertheless:
Chadstroma
Footballguy
This is a dang tough schedule.
Wk Date Matchup Time (ET) Time (PST)
1 Mon. Sep. 12 at Broncos 10:15 PM 7:15 PM
2 Sun. Sep. 18 at Bills 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
3 Sun. Sep. 25 vs. Jets 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
4 Sun. Oct. 02 vs. Patriots 4:15 PM 1:15 PM
5 Sun. Oct. 09 at Texans 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
6 Sun. Oct. 16 vs. Browns 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
7 Sun. Oct. 23 vs. Chiefs 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
8 BYE
9 Sun. Nov. 06 vs. Broncos 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
10 Thu. Nov. 10 at Chargers 8:20 PM 5:20 PM
11 Sun. Nov. 20 at Vikings 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
12 Sun. Nov. 27 vs. Bears 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
13 Sun. Dec. 04 at Dolphins 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
14 Sun. Dec. 11 at Packers 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
15 Sun. Dec. 18 vs. Lions 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
16 Sat. Dec. 24 at Chiefs 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
17 Sun. Jan. 01 vs. Chargers 4:15 PM 1:15 PM
Wk Date Matchup Time (ET) Time (PST)
1 Mon. Sep. 12 at Broncos 10:15 PM 7:15 PM
2 Sun. Sep. 18 at Bills 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
3 Sun. Sep. 25 vs. Jets 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
4 Sun. Oct. 02 vs. Patriots 4:15 PM 1:15 PM
5 Sun. Oct. 09 at Texans 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
6 Sun. Oct. 16 vs. Browns 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
7 Sun. Oct. 23 vs. Chiefs 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
8 BYE
9 Sun. Nov. 06 vs. Broncos 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
10 Thu. Nov. 10 at Chargers 8:20 PM 5:20 PM
11 Sun. Nov. 20 at Vikings 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
12 Sun. Nov. 27 vs. Bears 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
13 Sun. Dec. 04 at Dolphins 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
14 Sun. Dec. 11 at Packers 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
15 Sun. Dec. 18 vs. Lions 4:05 PM 1:05 PM
16 Sat. Dec. 24 at Chiefs 1:00 PM 10:00 AM
17 Sun. Jan. 01 vs. Chargers 4:15 PM 1:15 PM
massraider
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I don't think so. I see three games I pencil in as losses-Jets, Pats, Packers. The rest, I don't see a significantly better team anywhere. And I even question how good the Jets will be.
Obviously, we aren't going undefeated in the division again, but seems like we did good. Week 8 bye, all seems pretty good to me.
Obviously, we aren't going undefeated in the division again, but seems like we did good. Week 8 bye, all seems pretty good to me.
Chadstroma
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The Texans and Bears are tough games. The Lions and Vikings will be competitive. I expect the Browns to be improved. Outside of the Broncos, Bills and Dolphins the rest of the teams are either most likely a loss or threats to lose.
massraider
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Well, I think that all of our games are threats to lose. It's the nature of being a middle-of-the pack team. Which, I should say, is an improvement. We are in that weird 7-9 to 9-7 range, where we can lose to anyone or beat anyone. But we didn't draw a bad NFC division. The Vikes are interesting. They have been solid, and have a lot of talent. I wonder, however, about a team that took its shot with Favre the last two years, and fell short. I wonder about their mindset. I think it's imperative that they get a legit vet QB while they still have a semi-legit defense (that already showed cracks last year). Right now, tho, they'd be rolling out Joe Webb. We could be facing Jake Locker or Ryan Mallet. And for the in-division, all I can ask after the last decade is to be competitive in our division. We aren't the favorites, but we can play with all these teams.
RaiderBones
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Your looking at the glass half empty. I'm looking at the glass half full. What you look at and see as likely losses, I see as games that good just as well being a win for us as well. IF we have another good draft and a good offseason, like free agency and players staying healthy I see no reason with that schedule why we can't win 9+ games.
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I think the Vikes will go hard after McNabb once the CBA is fixed. They still think they have the pieces but need that QB and they have shown that they are willing to make the big move now. What worries me about the Vikings though is Peterson. Our run D has improved but that guy can make a good run D look bad and ours is still not 'good' yet. I still think the schedule is tough but I am not saying we are doomed or anything. I think you are right about that 7-9/9-7 thing. I do think that we can win this division. I don't really believe in the Chefs and the Donkeys are obviously rebuilding. The Dolts are always capable of laying an egg regardless of how talented they are.
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I guess I don't think it is as bad as everyone else? Jets/Pats/@Texans is the roughest 3 game stretch all year, and when 2/3 of your toughest games are at home you have to kind of roll the dice and think Oakland can come up big at home for a win.I agree with what the others have said about the easy NFC draw. Chicago and Minnesota don't have a QB (trust me on Cutler) and Stafford is young enough to be rattled playing at Oakland.I am happy with 5 home games and 3 road games first half of the season, that and a bye week right in the middle (hate very early/late byes).
Garrett
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With free agency being delayed, it is hard telling what will happen in the open market, but I really think that Oakland would be well served to come out of this draft with at least one solid FB prospect in the 4th-7th rounds. I am sure they are well aware of their lack of depth there.
massraider
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It's one of those positions where decent players are sitting around after the draft. Do most teams carry two? I'd really like to see a developmental QB, a G, maybe a T, and some back 7 guys on defense. Players I'd like to see us get at any point:Colin Kaepernick--I think we have room for a developmental QB. It should also be said that I believed in JaMarcus Russel as a draft pick, so maybe this is the last guy we should take.Danny WatkinsBenjamin Ijalana--They are talking about Pouncey and Watkins both in the first. I dunno about that. I have a feeling scouts pushing for interior linemen in the first round get ignored more often than not. Cameron Jordan--Even if Zach returns, which I expect. If we can't get the ball to our WRs, then let's give Campbell another target underneath. I would love, absolutely LOVE, to have two solid TEs on this team. If we got a starting G in the 2nd, and this kid in the 3rd, I would be pretty content. Mason FosterKJ Wright--I think the team should still be looking for a WLB. Prefer to have this addressed in FA. I think Groves is just stopgap, and we have no idea what we have in Goethel. A cornerback, obviously. They tend to go early, as do D-linemen. I could see the team going after a CB in round 2, and snagging an interior lineman in the 3rd.
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Totally agree on dev QB, T. I wish we could somehow get Pouncey to play C as I think that's a need too.
I like this guy's upside. He's sort of a younger, fresher Campbell, which could seemingly make for a good fit under the vet. Rd 2, I'd be fine. Rd 3 or later I'd be stoked.
I like this guy too if he falls. Rd 2 does seem to be a place to find stud interior linemen and pay them on the cheap as starters for a few years.
Secondary is one area where Al is still a wizard at scouting, even after all these years. Asomougha (1st rounder) and Routt (2nd) were both were considered "reaches" and yet both worked out pretty well. I like Chris Johnson (FA) as a nickle corner, but not as a starter. Ware (7th) and W. McFadden (5th) both showed some upside last year, but also looked pretty lost at times. Still not bad at all for late round rooks who you can build with going forward. But if Nnamdi leaves, he should be replaced by some experienced free agent CB on a cheaper, but still decent deal (Cromartie?). I love the young pup safeties athletically - Mitchell (2nd), Branch (4th), Brown (7th) - and I think they can grow as football players under new DB Coach Woodson. Michael Huff finally looked like a baller last season, but I don't expect him back as he'll probably get a fairly large deal somewhere other than Oakland. But maybe not? Maybe Huff could to corner and take Nnamdi's spot? It would be a risk since he hasn't played extensively at CB, but S money for a CB who knows your system might be worth it for the Raiders. But that kind of position change might also be just a fantasy player's pipe dream, I suppose.
massraider
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
I am wondering about Mike Mitchell taking a spot, and Branch playing more FS. He got beat in coverage some last year, but has the speed our FS needs. If Mitchell is good enough to play SS, I find it hard to believe Eugene would be a better option at FS than Branch.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Yeah, I avoided Eugene's name for a reason. He's a stop-gap at best until the younger guys are ready to be counted upon to not make the bonehead errors, which has plagued this defense for years. That said, a lot of that is a scheme problem because of the single high look that Al loves so much. I saw more scheme diversity last season; I hope that trend sticks. I really liked what I saw from Stevie Brown last season, considering his 7th rd rookie status. He's not the athletic specimen that Mitchell and Branch are, but he seems to have better football instincts. He might make a play for either S spot.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Great read, thank you. I was particularly interested in hearing about Al Davis' thoughts on Bruce Campbell. Sounds like the guy is going to be given a shot at one of the G spots. Clearly that dude is a physical beast. I will be excited to see if he can handle a starting role. If he excels this year, it will really make last year's draft even more impressive when you consider McClain, Houston, Veldheer, Ford, and even Brown/Ware/W. McFadden/Goethel. I see between five to seven of those guys winning starting jobs for this team in their coming sophomore season.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
The draft is tomorrow... and for the first time since I was a little kid, I don't give a s##t. I don't know if it's because of the lockout, or because we don't have a first-round pick, but I'm not into it at all. Hopefully the juices will start flowing when the commish puts the Panthers on the clock.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I felt the same mostly, but the last day or two have been like breaking down and falling into the old addiction. Rumors are the Raiders are a good shot to trade back into the first round. We need offensive linemen as Barnes is not opting to return, Walker is going to retire, and Gallery is gone. The entire O-line looks to be Veldheer, and some rotating pieces and it looks like a given that Bruce Campbell will get his shot to start this year. We could use a couple more O-linemen. The other priority is DB. We are looking at losing Nnamdi's services, and our 2 DB's we drafted late last year aren't going to fill his void. We need a top CB in this draft. I am hoping the Raiders trade up into the first round for Colorado CB Jimmmy Smith. Or if we stay at 48, we could take Stefan Wisniewski. You gotta like the Raider bloodlines. Some others are linking us with one of the QB's like Colin Kaepernick. I am not too keen on him at 48, let alone having to trade up to get him. We need help now on the O-line and especially at corner.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Huff and Aso: Will they stay or will they go?
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Is there a Raider O line Emergency?
massraider
Footballguy
Maybe.I mean, a LG and a RT would be nice, but I wonder if we can get a starting RT at 48. If there was one position that I would say we would be targeting I would say it's be RT. Guards? You can get guards. But if there is a premier pass rusher that, in their opinion, fell......well, I have no problem getting him. Although in this particular case, I think Goose was just placing the Raiders with a name of a player that fit their mold, and had been linked to them. Moch fits both. I don't care about position to round. We can use another CB, S, LB, OT, OG, and QB--and I have no problem with another DE, DT, or TE. I would just like to see us get good value at those picks. If we got Kaepernick in the 2nd, and Lil Wiz in the 3rd, that's be great. And if we got Watkins in the 2nd, and Davon House in the 3rd, that's be great too.
massraider
Footballguy
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272677
Dontay Moch's profile. He's not a DE, he's Tommy Howard 2.0
Dontay Moch's profile. He's not a DE, he's Tommy Howard 2.0
massraider
Footballguy
Source: Kaepernick is No. 1 QB on Raiders’ draft board
Posted by Evan Silva on April 28, 2011, 12:42 PM EDT
Twelve days ago, a league source told PFT that one unnamed AFC West team informed Nevada’s Colin Kaepernick that he is the No. 1 quarterback on their draft board.
PFT has tracked down the team.
Per a league source, it’s the Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders hosted Kaepernick for an official, team-facility visit on April 12. Thursday morning, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that Oakland is trying to trade into the first round of the draft.
Michael David Smith speculated that Kaepernick could be the Raiders’ target. Other reports suggest it could be Colorado cornerback Jimmy Smith.
Meanwhile, NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora told a Miami radio show Thursday morning that he believes the Dolphins will draft Kaepernick with the 15th overall pick.
Kaepernick was not included in renowned draft prognosticator Rick Gosselin’s first round.
Posted by Evan Silva on April 28, 2011, 12:42 PM EDT
Twelve days ago, a league source told PFT that one unnamed AFC West team informed Nevada’s Colin Kaepernick that he is the No. 1 quarterback on their draft board.
PFT has tracked down the team.
Per a league source, it’s the Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders hosted Kaepernick for an official, team-facility visit on April 12. Thursday morning, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that Oakland is trying to trade into the first round of the draft.
Michael David Smith speculated that Kaepernick could be the Raiders’ target. Other reports suggest it could be Colorado cornerback Jimmy Smith.
Meanwhile, NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora told a Miami radio show Thursday morning that he believes the Dolphins will draft Kaepernick with the 15th overall pick.
Kaepernick was not included in renowned draft prognosticator Rick Gosselin’s first round.
massraider
Footballguy
If you go by Gosselin's mock(and history says he'll nail 26 or so), here's the players available in round 2:
22, Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
33, Muhammad Wilkerson DT Temple
35, Marcus Cannon G TCU
36, Ryan Williams RB Virginia Tech
37, Jon Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
38, Akeem Ayers S UCLA
39, Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame
40, Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas
41, James Carpenter OT Alabama
42, Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State
43, Greg Little WR North Carolina
44, Brooks Reed DE Arizona
45, Kenrick Ellis DT Hampton
46, Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia
47, Rahim Moore S UCLA
48, Torrey Smith WR Maryland
49, Jarvis Jenkins DT Clemson
50, Orlando Franklin OT Miami
51, Mikel Leshoure RB Illinois
52, Titus Young WR Boise State
53, Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin
54, Stephen Paea DT Oregon State
55, Randall Cobb WR Kentucky
56, Will Rackley G Lehigh
57, Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
58, Allen Bailey DE Miami
59, Terrell McClain DT South Florida
60, Martez Wilson OLB Illinois
61, Shareece Wright CB Southern California
62, Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington
63, Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada
64, Brandon Harris CB Miami
65, Bruce Carter OLB North Carolina
66, Rodney Hudson C Florida State
67, Dontay Moch DE Nevada
68, Shane Vereen RB California
69, Luke Stocker TE Tennessee
70, Jah Reid OT Central Florida
71, Leonard Hankerson WR Miami
72, Marcus Gilchrist CB Clemson
73, Steve Wisniewski C Penn State
74, Kendall Hunter RB Oklahoma State
75, K.J. Wright OLB Mississippi State
76, John Moffitt G Georgia
77, Tandon Doss WR Indiana
78, Drake Nevis DT LSU
79, Marcus Gilbert OT Florida
Boy, I wouldn't be mad if Bowers slid that far.
22, Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson
33, Muhammad Wilkerson DT Temple
35, Marcus Cannon G TCU
36, Ryan Williams RB Virginia Tech
37, Jon Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
38, Akeem Ayers S UCLA
39, Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame
40, Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas
41, James Carpenter OT Alabama
42, Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State
43, Greg Little WR North Carolina
44, Brooks Reed DE Arizona
45, Kenrick Ellis DT Hampton
46, Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia
47, Rahim Moore S UCLA
48, Torrey Smith WR Maryland
49, Jarvis Jenkins DT Clemson
50, Orlando Franklin OT Miami
51, Mikel Leshoure RB Illinois
52, Titus Young WR Boise State
53, Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin
54, Stephen Paea DT Oregon State
55, Randall Cobb WR Kentucky
56, Will Rackley G Lehigh
57, Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
58, Allen Bailey DE Miami
59, Terrell McClain DT South Florida
60, Martez Wilson OLB Illinois
61, Shareece Wright CB Southern California
62, Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington
63, Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada
64, Brandon Harris CB Miami
65, Bruce Carter OLB North Carolina
66, Rodney Hudson C Florida State
67, Dontay Moch DE Nevada
68, Shane Vereen RB California
69, Luke Stocker TE Tennessee
70, Jah Reid OT Central Florida
71, Leonard Hankerson WR Miami
72, Marcus Gilchrist CB Clemson
73, Steve Wisniewski C Penn State
74, Kendall Hunter RB Oklahoma State
75, K.J. Wright OLB Mississippi State
76, John Moffitt G Georgia
77, Tandon Doss WR Indiana
78, Drake Nevis DT LSU
79, Marcus Gilbert OT Florida
Boy, I wouldn't be mad if Bowers slid that far.
massraider
Footballguy
A full Radiers mock, no idea who did it tho. Lot of players we have been linked to already:
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/26699/raiders-mock-draft
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/26699/raiders-mock-draft
massraider
Footballguy
Scouts Inc. 7 round mock for Oakland:
2 48 Johnny Patrick CB Louisville
3 81 Joseph Lefeged S Rutgers
4 113 David Arkin OG Missouri State
5 148 Jordan Cameron LB USC
6 181 Aldrick Robinson WR SMU
7 219 Nathan Enderle QB Idaho
7 241 Michael Smith OT Nebraska
2 48 Johnny Patrick CB Louisville
3 81 Joseph Lefeged S Rutgers
4 113 David Arkin OG Missouri State
5 148 Jordan Cameron LB USC
6 181 Aldrick Robinson WR SMU
7 219 Nathan Enderle QB Idaho
7 241 Michael Smith OT Nebraska
massraider
Footballguy
Any thoughts on the pick? Predictions?
I kinda think that Marcus Cannon kid from TCU has a Raider smell. Massive, freaky athlete....
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1125958
I kinda think that Marcus Cannon kid from TCU has a Raider smell. Massive, freaky athlete....
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1125958
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Stefan Wisnewski. Interesting that we passed on Mallet.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I like the pick. Raider bloodlines. We needed the help on the O-line. I don't like Mallet's makeup. Lil' Wiz is going to make a nice impact on the line, and we need a center. Satele did a great job in the 2nd half of last year, and we don't have a backup on the roster, till this pick. I honestly was hoping that we would have had a shot at Kaepernick, but that wasn't to be. I think you'll like what you see from Stefan.
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