Garrett
Footballguy
That is what I am talking about on defense. Dominant first half and not a single defensive penalty.
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2011 Oakland Raiders In-Season Thread (1 Viewer)
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Love the pressure that the Raiders are putting on Rivers. Marcus McNeil out is a huge blow to the Chargers. I don't know where this bully came from, but I like it. Like it a lot. Love the power up the gut runs by both Bush and Jones. This is Raider football. Reminds me a bit of last year's first meeting when we went up 2 scores early, roughed up Rivers and the Chargers never recovered. Hope the intensity keeps up. The key is keeping Rivers uncomfortable at all times.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Great win for our beloved Raiders. 
Wimbley was on fire with 4 sacks and that patented rope a dope duck move. He terrorized Rivers who is going to have nightmares and cold shakes thinking about Wimbley and his unprotected backside. Aaron Curry KO'd Marcus Mcneil and the subs for the Chargers were no match physically. The defense was the goat last week, and they as much as Carson Palmers near perfect game were responsible for the win. Also, Hue Jackson came out and ran Bush down their throats and it paid off in spades. You could see the Charger defense wilt and the shoulders drooped. Bush was a monster getting into the second level and Wiz II had a great game blocking upfield. I don't see a dropoff from Satele. Even Heyer threw some nice blocks and opened space on his side. A plus effort from the O line. Great win, great win!
Wimbley was on fire with 4 sacks and that patented rope a dope duck move. He terrorized Rivers who is going to have nightmares and cold shakes thinking about Wimbley and his unprotected backside. Aaron Curry KO'd Marcus Mcneil and the subs for the Chargers were no match physically. The defense was the goat last week, and they as much as Carson Palmers near perfect game were responsible for the win. Also, Hue Jackson came out and ran Bush down their throats and it paid off in spades. You could see the Charger defense wilt and the shoulders drooped. Bush was a monster getting into the second level and Wiz II had a great game blocking upfield. I don't see a dropoff from Satele. Even Heyer threw some nice blocks and opened space on his side. A plus effort from the O line. Great win, great win!
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Huge win on the road after a short week. A successful mix of smashmouth running down their throats, and attacking vertically downfield with bombs -- Al must be looking down smiling.
But as comfortable as Palmer looked directing this offense, and as awesome as Bush played, I give credit to the defense for this one -- we held the lead, played aggressive and (for the most part) smart, and clamped down on key players when it counted. Looked like we were getting great pressure off the defensive right side, and kept the heat on throughout the game without letting up, even when some costly penalties gave SD first downs late in the game.
Yes, we're leading the division, and it's a hugely important win -- but it's one win nonetheless. We need DMac back and hopefully Ford isn't badly injured -- but this was a great night to be a Raider fan.
But as comfortable as Palmer looked directing this offense, and as awesome as Bush played, I give credit to the defense for this one -- we held the lead, played aggressive and (for the most part) smart, and clamped down on key players when it counted. Looked like we were getting great pressure off the defensive right side, and kept the heat on throughout the game without letting up, even when some costly penalties gave SD first downs late in the game.
Yes, we're leading the division, and it's a hugely important win -- but it's one win nonetheless. We need DMac back and hopefully Ford isn't badly injured -- but this was a great night to be a Raider fan.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Thrilled with the win and how Palmer looked, obviously. But I nearly lost my mind with that STUPID fake punt. I don't even care if it had worked. It was a STUPID play. 4th & 1 on the plus 34. Our O-line had been gashing their D-line the entire drive. If Bush gets stuffed, he gets stuffed. But at least we lose with our fastball. This team fancies itself as the "bully"... if that's the case, run the damn ball and stop with the high school crap!!
And Hue's challenge might have been the dumbest challenge I've ever seen. Clean this stuff up and we can win games.
So frustrating being a fan of this team when you see its potential, and then realize we rarely see it fully realized like it was tonight.
And Hue's challenge might have been the dumbest challenge I've ever seen. Clean this stuff up and we can win games.
So frustrating being a fan of this team when you see its potential, and then realize we rarely see it fully realized like it was tonight.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
And HOW THE HELL does Lito drop that ball? Are you kidding? 
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Not to mention RoMac's near INT, WTF?And HOW THE HELL does Lito drop that ball? Are you kidding?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
That one I can forgive. The guy he was covering (forget which Charger it was) got his hand in there to break it up.But Lito's drop was a head-scratcher. My 9 year-old niece would have caught that.Not to mention RoMac's near INT, WTF?And HOW THE HELL does Lito drop that ball? Are you kidding?
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
It is frustrating to see them finally play at times dominating Raider football. The kind that the league takes notice of. Then the next week you give up 38 points to the Broncos at home to a HS QB. It's humbling to be a Raider fan. If they just play to their potential, we should all be arrogant bastards, but it never seems to turn out that way.
massraider
Footballguy
Really hoping people get healthy during this 10 day break. We got lots of people banged up.
kaso
Footballguy
Me too. But my view is a bit more selfish. Traveling down to Minneapolis next weekend (from Canada) for my first ever Raider game!!!
I would love to be able to watch a fully healthy team walk all over the Vikings.
kaso
Footballguy
The reports on twitter during the game said that Ford was on crutches, had x-rays but no breaks. But I agree. He was coming on strong and seemed to be working very well with Palmer. Nice to see that Moore stepped up big time in his absence.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Ford and DMC seem to have the same injury. :(
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
Way to run the ball Hue. With that amount of running, single coverage on the WRs, and Palmer starting to come on guess what? The verticle game is back in Oakland baby! Great coaching job this week. Even the punter attempted a bomb and it almost worked. Of course San Diego didnt bite too hard on the fake because we really werent in a punting situation. Still was definate pass interference had it been ruled catchable. I was shocked to see the punt team come on the field 4th and 1 at that spot and thought either this is a fake or Hue has suddenly turned into a coward. I'm sure San Diego recognized that as well. Better to save that play for a less obvious situation when the D is more likely to be fooled. Even though it almost worked, now everybody has seen it and it'll be even less of a surprise next time. Great overall job though.
Moore and Ford's deep ball ability seems the likely reason they are starting ahead of DHB. DHB was more involved this week though and was a factor blocking. He looked like he was on the field more even before Ford got hurt, and on the field a lot afterwards. Didnt have a catch but Oakland ran first, threw second. A large percentage of those passes were deep and Palmer ended with a whopping 15 YPA. Our fast group of WRs had little problem running past the Chargers' weak CBs. It was like the good old days when Oakland was winning Superbowls.
Charger offensive line had no answer for Wimbley and the Raiders pass rush, no wonder Rivers is having such a bad year. Chargers were having about as much success running the ball as everyone else against us. Yet they decided to pass first, run second. Mistake - Chargers... Raiders outcoached San Diego.
5-4 and one game up in the division. All but one game has come down to the wire. We have learned to win the close games. If we had traded for Carson Palmer before the season began, this team would probably be 7-2. If we can get healthy, we might start to blow out some of our opponents. IMO 4 more wins should be enough to win this division. The game at Arrowhead is the most important remaining game the way things look right now. Chargers might not even win 8 with their problems. Huge win for Raider Nation last night.
Moore and Ford's deep ball ability seems the likely reason they are starting ahead of DHB. DHB was more involved this week though and was a factor blocking. He looked like he was on the field more even before Ford got hurt, and on the field a lot afterwards. Didnt have a catch but Oakland ran first, threw second. A large percentage of those passes were deep and Palmer ended with a whopping 15 YPA. Our fast group of WRs had little problem running past the Chargers' weak CBs. It was like the good old days when Oakland was winning Superbowls.
Charger offensive line had no answer for Wimbley and the Raiders pass rush, no wonder Rivers is having such a bad year. Chargers were having about as much success running the ball as everyone else against us. Yet they decided to pass first, run second. Mistake - Chargers... Raiders outcoached San Diego.
5-4 and one game up in the division. All but one game has come down to the wire. We have learned to win the close games. If we had traded for Carson Palmer before the season began, this team would probably be 7-2. If we can get healthy, we might start to blow out some of our opponents. IMO 4 more wins should be enough to win this division. The game at Arrowhead is the most important remaining game the way things look right now. Chargers might not even win 8 with their problems. Huge win for Raider Nation last night.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
BTW, I loved seeing the no-huddle with Carson changing plays at the LOS! Just like he and Hue did in Cincy during their nice run.
massraider
Footballguy
The WR question to me, is settled.
Moore and Ford are so far ahead of everyone else on the roster, it's not even funny. They wanna keep DHB on the outside for 3 WR sets, fine. They wanna use Chaz and Murphy occasionally, OK. But Ford and Moore should be getting more reps/snaps/looks/targets than the rest of these guys combined.
Ford is the goods, man, he's got some Percy Harvin in him.
Moore and Ford are so far ahead of everyone else on the roster, it's not even funny. They wanna keep DHB on the outside for 3 WR sets, fine. They wanna use Chaz and Murphy occasionally, OK. But Ford and Moore should be getting more reps/snaps/looks/targets than the rest of these guys combined.
Ford is the goods, man, he's got some Percy Harvin in him.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
How exactly did DHB go from MAIN MAN to complete afterthought in the span of 3 weeks?
massraider
Footballguy
Very weird. Maybe something is amiss, in terms of his attitude, or health. More likely, I think Ford got healthy, and Moore just straight passed him.
UnknownCoach
Footballguy
I dont think he's an afterthought. Just behind Moore and Ford now that Palmer is at QB. He was very involved as a blocker against the Chargers and we didnt throw the ball as much. DHB has always struggled with the deep ball and they have obviously made a big effort to put that back in the game plan for several reasons. Moore and Ford are our two best deep threats. DHB is better on the short routes and as a blocker. We need to keep things fairly basic for Palmer and we need the threat of the big play. San Diego played right into our hands allowing Moore to go one on one against below average corners. I've stated numerous time there really isnt such a thing as a WR1 in the NFL and even if there was, we dont have one. DHB had more chemistry with Campbell. Campbell doesnt like to take risks, Palmer does. Moore is the guy for taking risks and he's clicking with Palmer sooner.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Great game to be at. Both the oline and the dline looked great. The 2 oline men going for SD was a big help to us.
The stadium was 60%+ raider fans. In the 4th quarter the defense was asking for noise and the stadium was rockin!
The stadium was 60%+ raider fans. In the 4th quarter the defense was asking for noise and the stadium was rockin!
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Agree, RN - I made this point earlier in this thread. I LOVE that Hue breathes fresh life into the playcalling, but at some times the trick plays get a little too cute. Granted, a fake punt toss is slightly less of a high percentage play for the Raiders given that Lechler is a backup QB (let's not forget that pass was right where it needed to be and would have converted if not for the simple fact that there is no pass interference on 4th down fake punt passes). But Lechler's primary value is that he's stellar at pinning opposing O's back with his leg. Let him use it. I would think that in addition to just lining up and pounding the ball with Bush, or maybe calling a mismatch play for Reece, a higher percentage play might have been to just let Janikowski try to boot it. I mean, if he misses, it's no different than whiffing on a fake punt, right? OK, Seabass's hammy was sore and it was a pretty far FGA, but you get my point.Hue -- shake up the playcalling by all means so it's not vanilla, but don't do it in a way that foregoes this team's strengths, especially in a game where those strengths are working well.'Raider Nation said:
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
You guys see the "Football Life" featuring Al tonight?
Great stuff. It's on again now.
Great stuff. It's on again now.
massraider
Footballguy
The priorities for this team moving forward, IMO:
1. Getting healthy. Huff, Rolando, Satele, Ford, DMC, I mean, on and on. It sucks.
2. Stopping the run. We have a good game or two stopping the run, then get gashed. We have the Dlinemen, aside from the RE, there's no excuse. Curry is going to help on that front, IMO.
3. Penalties. At least cut down on the flase starts and dumb personal fouls. The PI calls, nothing we can do. We run man coverage. Just stop the dumb ones, for pete's sake.
1. Getting healthy. Huff, Rolando, Satele, Ford, DMC, I mean, on and on. It sucks.
2. Stopping the run. We have a good game or two stopping the run, then get gashed. We have the Dlinemen, aside from the RE, there's no excuse. Curry is going to help on that front, IMO.
3. Penalties. At least cut down on the flase starts and dumb personal fouls. The PI calls, nothing we can do. We run man coverage. Just stop the dumb ones, for pete's sake.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Agree. Makes you miss AD. The way it used to be. The way it ought to be. AD was his own man. I didn't always agree with him, he wasn't perfect. He was oblivious to others opinions of him, he did things his way. His approach to his team and thier place in the league, polarized his legacy. Those of us who have been loyal to the Raiders all these years can't help but smile at this retrospective. Those who hated him in life won't change their opinion of him after watching.You guys see the "Football Life" featuring Al tonight?
RaiderBones
Footballguy
Good points massraider. I would like to add that our run defense is a whole lot better with a healthy Rolando McClain. I have been harsh on him for missing some tackles this season, but the game he was out and Blackstock was in there, The Raiders defense got run on big time. McClain does the little things like making sure players are where they are suppose to be. I also agree that Curry will help in this area as well. For what the Raiders paid to get Curry I think the Raiders will come out ahead in that deal.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Raiders receiver Jacoby Ford, who sprained his foot Thursday night in the win over the Chargers, will have an MRI but is “feeling a little better, so that’s a positive,” he said.
He doesn’t think the injury is similar to running back Darren McFadden, who has been out three weeks with a mid-foot sprain.
“Nah, I don’t think it’s like his,” Ford said. “I think it’s something different. Hopefully it’s not severe. …
“The 10-day break is actually real good. Hopefully I can try to get back. I’m definitely going to try.”
Posted By: Vittorio Tafur ( Email , Twitter ) | Nov 12 at 10:40 am
He doesn’t think the injury is similar to running back Darren McFadden, who has been out three weeks with a mid-foot sprain.
“Nah, I don’t think it’s like his,” Ford said. “I think it’s something different. Hopefully it’s not severe. …
“The 10-day break is actually real good. Hopefully I can try to get back. I’m definitely going to try.”
Posted By: Vittorio Tafur ( Email , Twitter ) | Nov 12 at 10:40 am
massraider
Footballguy
At Friday afternoon’s news conference, Raiders coach Hue Jackson said he was proud of his team for playing through injuries, but said it won’t get satisfied with being in first place in the AFC West:
“Without getting too high in this deal, we’re a 5-4 football team, one game over .500, and there’s so many things we can get better at, and I know we will, we can. It’s just work, we’ve got a lot of work to do and we’ll continue to keep plugging at this thing, but I was very excited for our football team, this team doesn’t blink. We’ve had all kinds of challenges presented to us this year in terms of losing guys for this game, that game, but the players, and again, I give a lot of credit to my staff and to the players, they find a way to keep going. I mean, most teams, if you look at some of the guys we’ve lost, would turn their back, and curl up and call it a year. But not this football team. That’s not how we’re built. We’re the Raiders and we’re in coach Davis’ vision, and we’re going to keep playing, and we’re going to play as hard as we can play.
Q: Importance of getting a win, stopping the bleeding . . . getting rid of some of that negativity
Jackson: Everybody thinks there’s been negativity. I don’t. I know losing breeds that. I know people start saying things. I hear things that get said, but I never felt that in our locker room, I never felt that with our football team. Then I would have had a concern. I know everyone else was concerned, I wasn’t. What I had to make sure is we just kept working, and just keep your head down. You hit these kinds of slides in seasons sometimes where things just don’t go right. But I had a good feeling why things wasn’t going right. I think that’s the difference. I think if you can’t put your hand on it, if you don’t know what’s going on with your football team, then you can’t fix it, so we were able to get the ship righted pretty quickly. Again, it’s a tribute to the players, the staff, with everybody involved with this football team, because we have faith and we know what we’re trying to do.
Q: Go into the game thinking give it to Michael Bush 30 times?
Jackson: Honestly I thought I was going to get it to Michael as many times as I think it took to win the game. If it meant 50 times, I would have given it to him 50 times. You know, we walked in the game, I’m sure the guys will tell you I script the openers and the openers didn’t say run the ball 30 times to Michael Bush, it says, be balanced, be diverse, and when you stand out there and that’s the beautiful part about having been the coordinator here and the playcaller, you stand out there and you look at your team against another team, and you see the line coming off the ball and you see the velocity of the back, you get a good feeling for what’s going on. I don’t know that you can see that when you’re up top behind the glass. When you’re down there you get a real good feel for the game, and he was starting to take over the game and the blockers were taking over the game, and the rest is history.
Q: Had Heyer played much guard before last night?
Jackson: He’s practiced with us at guard, but again, that’s a tribute to the young man. He prepared himself, got himself ready to play, without much practice, just worked at it during the week and said, hey coach, if Sammy can’t go and Wiz goes to center, I want this opportunity, I’m ready for it.
Q: Did that sway you, was that a factor?
Jackson: No, because I’m not surprised that he was. I mean, we’re playing in a big ballgame, and again, he’s a veteran player who’s been in big games. Nothing against Joe Barksdale because Joe’s done a real good job playing his role on this football team, but I just felt it was time to put a little more veteran presence out there, and he did, he did a fantastic job.
Q: Wisniewski’s performance . . .
Jackson: He’s been tremendous all year. I can’t say enough about him. What an awesome draft pick for us, he’s got a big, bright future ahead of him here. He’s our starting left guard who can play center, did a fantastic job, didn’t blink, moved right over to center, never skipped a beat. To me, that’s the thing about this whole team, we don’t get too emotional when we gotta do something different that’s out of the ordinary, we just do it, and he did, and he did it well last night.
Q: Update on Jacoby Ford?
Jackson: Obviously I don’t know much today. He’s still in a walking boot, and we’ll know more as we move forward and we’re going to find out all the different details as he goes and gets checked by other people and find out exactly where he is. Very unfortunate, what a big catch on that play, because I think he was about to just really start playing really well. But again, that’s the nature of this business. Injuries happen.
Q: Stanford Routt followed Vincent Jackson around most of the game something that hasn’t been done a whole lot here. What went into the thinking to have him do that, and how do you think he did?
Jackson: “Well, you take your best corner, and you try to put him on their best player. Stanford had some plays last night that I’m sure he wishes he had back, but for the most part – I think Vincent caught one ball. Again, I think for the most part Stanford did a good job. I expect him to be one of the best corners in this league. That’s the expectation of him. We should be able to put him on whoever we want to put him on and say, ‘Stanford, go get it done.’ He did a good job. There are some other plays that he needs to continue to get better at and grow from. I think Chuck did a good job of devising a plan and giving those guys an opportunity to go out and play and have success on defense.”
Q: Is Palmer more comfortable in no-huddle? Is that something he really likes?
Jackson: “I think he like it. I think he likes anything, though. He likes to score points. That’s what Carson’s about . But he’s in command in those situations, and we kind of do it together, but he does a fantastic job of it because he has a rhythm about himself, what he does and how he gets us in and out. We have about five different tempos of offense that we can play at. Whether we huddle or don’t huddle or whatever we do, there’s a lot that goes into it, but he is definitely the conductor of it.”
Q: Pryor inactive again. Do you forsee it being like that for the rest of the year?
Jackson: “You never know. Trust me, I would love to get Terrelle Pryor playing a little bit. I think the experience for him would be great, but I can’t do it at the expense of another position that might be something very important to our team. He’s a very competitive young man, he’s very talented. I think he has a bright, bright future ahead of himself. The guy works his tail off. He does everything you ask of him and more. I’m excited about what he’s going to become, but right now all of our practice is dictated by who we play, so you don’t get a chance to work from A to Z with him right now. You’re into game week real quickly, but he has grown leaps and bounds. Would I love to play him at some point in time? Yeah. Is it going to stay like it is, like it’s been lately? I don’t know. We’re going to take it week to week and see how it goes.”
Q: How tough is it to keep playing Janikowski when he’s clearly not himself?
Jackson: “We had a plan, once he made a decision he was playing a week ago, to get him to this point because now we have a good stretch of time we can possibly get him totally healthy. He wants to be out there with his teammates. I have to make the right decision for the football team. As long as it doesn’t cost us because a half of Janikowski might be as good as most in this league, in my opinion. We’re not going to put him in a situation where he hurts himself, but we’re also not going to not let him go out and kick when he wants to compete and play. He’s done a good job. He made the field goal. He kicked the ball. We had some bloop kicks. He kicked one out they couldn’t get. I think we got a chance to get him healthy now, get him back up to being 100 percent or close to it. I think the plan’s worked.”
Q: What’s been difference with Denarius Moore last two weeks?
Jackson: I think it happens in this league. That’s my point. A week ago it was Jacoby. This week it was Denarius. I couldn’t tell you who it will be next week. It might be Darrius, it might be Kevin Boss, who knows? You don’t know. It all depends on how teams defense you and that’s how we play. We have a way and rhythm about how we play football on offense. Sometimes a guy might get targeted a lot more than another because it’s based on how the defense plays, based on where the quarterback sees his progression. I’m not going to say the past two weeks we just tried to throw it at him a ton. I know in the Denver game he had 12 opportunities. I think in this one he had seven and caught five. Some guys didn’t have any, some guys had some. That’s going to happen. That’s the beauty of what we do, whoever has the hot hand might get it. Whoever can get open is going to get it. We’re going to keep doing that.
“Without getting too high in this deal, we’re a 5-4 football team, one game over .500, and there’s so many things we can get better at, and I know we will, we can. It’s just work, we’ve got a lot of work to do and we’ll continue to keep plugging at this thing, but I was very excited for our football team, this team doesn’t blink. We’ve had all kinds of challenges presented to us this year in terms of losing guys for this game, that game, but the players, and again, I give a lot of credit to my staff and to the players, they find a way to keep going. I mean, most teams, if you look at some of the guys we’ve lost, would turn their back, and curl up and call it a year. But not this football team. That’s not how we’re built. We’re the Raiders and we’re in coach Davis’ vision, and we’re going to keep playing, and we’re going to play as hard as we can play.
Q: Importance of getting a win, stopping the bleeding . . . getting rid of some of that negativity
Jackson: Everybody thinks there’s been negativity. I don’t. I know losing breeds that. I know people start saying things. I hear things that get said, but I never felt that in our locker room, I never felt that with our football team. Then I would have had a concern. I know everyone else was concerned, I wasn’t. What I had to make sure is we just kept working, and just keep your head down. You hit these kinds of slides in seasons sometimes where things just don’t go right. But I had a good feeling why things wasn’t going right. I think that’s the difference. I think if you can’t put your hand on it, if you don’t know what’s going on with your football team, then you can’t fix it, so we were able to get the ship righted pretty quickly. Again, it’s a tribute to the players, the staff, with everybody involved with this football team, because we have faith and we know what we’re trying to do.
Q: Go into the game thinking give it to Michael Bush 30 times?
Jackson: Honestly I thought I was going to get it to Michael as many times as I think it took to win the game. If it meant 50 times, I would have given it to him 50 times. You know, we walked in the game, I’m sure the guys will tell you I script the openers and the openers didn’t say run the ball 30 times to Michael Bush, it says, be balanced, be diverse, and when you stand out there and that’s the beautiful part about having been the coordinator here and the playcaller, you stand out there and you look at your team against another team, and you see the line coming off the ball and you see the velocity of the back, you get a good feeling for what’s going on. I don’t know that you can see that when you’re up top behind the glass. When you’re down there you get a real good feel for the game, and he was starting to take over the game and the blockers were taking over the game, and the rest is history.
Q: Had Heyer played much guard before last night?
Jackson: He’s practiced with us at guard, but again, that’s a tribute to the young man. He prepared himself, got himself ready to play, without much practice, just worked at it during the week and said, hey coach, if Sammy can’t go and Wiz goes to center, I want this opportunity, I’m ready for it.
Q: Did that sway you, was that a factor?
Jackson: No, because I’m not surprised that he was. I mean, we’re playing in a big ballgame, and again, he’s a veteran player who’s been in big games. Nothing against Joe Barksdale because Joe’s done a real good job playing his role on this football team, but I just felt it was time to put a little more veteran presence out there, and he did, he did a fantastic job.
Q: Wisniewski’s performance . . .
Jackson: He’s been tremendous all year. I can’t say enough about him. What an awesome draft pick for us, he’s got a big, bright future ahead of him here. He’s our starting left guard who can play center, did a fantastic job, didn’t blink, moved right over to center, never skipped a beat. To me, that’s the thing about this whole team, we don’t get too emotional when we gotta do something different that’s out of the ordinary, we just do it, and he did, and he did it well last night.
Q: Update on Jacoby Ford?
Jackson: Obviously I don’t know much today. He’s still in a walking boot, and we’ll know more as we move forward and we’re going to find out all the different details as he goes and gets checked by other people and find out exactly where he is. Very unfortunate, what a big catch on that play, because I think he was about to just really start playing really well. But again, that’s the nature of this business. Injuries happen.
Q: Stanford Routt followed Vincent Jackson around most of the game something that hasn’t been done a whole lot here. What went into the thinking to have him do that, and how do you think he did?
Jackson: “Well, you take your best corner, and you try to put him on their best player. Stanford had some plays last night that I’m sure he wishes he had back, but for the most part – I think Vincent caught one ball. Again, I think for the most part Stanford did a good job. I expect him to be one of the best corners in this league. That’s the expectation of him. We should be able to put him on whoever we want to put him on and say, ‘Stanford, go get it done.’ He did a good job. There are some other plays that he needs to continue to get better at and grow from. I think Chuck did a good job of devising a plan and giving those guys an opportunity to go out and play and have success on defense.”
Q: Is Palmer more comfortable in no-huddle? Is that something he really likes?
Jackson: “I think he like it. I think he likes anything, though. He likes to score points. That’s what Carson’s about . But he’s in command in those situations, and we kind of do it together, but he does a fantastic job of it because he has a rhythm about himself, what he does and how he gets us in and out. We have about five different tempos of offense that we can play at. Whether we huddle or don’t huddle or whatever we do, there’s a lot that goes into it, but he is definitely the conductor of it.”
Q: Pryor inactive again. Do you forsee it being like that for the rest of the year?
Jackson: “You never know. Trust me, I would love to get Terrelle Pryor playing a little bit. I think the experience for him would be great, but I can’t do it at the expense of another position that might be something very important to our team. He’s a very competitive young man, he’s very talented. I think he has a bright, bright future ahead of himself. The guy works his tail off. He does everything you ask of him and more. I’m excited about what he’s going to become, but right now all of our practice is dictated by who we play, so you don’t get a chance to work from A to Z with him right now. You’re into game week real quickly, but he has grown leaps and bounds. Would I love to play him at some point in time? Yeah. Is it going to stay like it is, like it’s been lately? I don’t know. We’re going to take it week to week and see how it goes.”
Q: How tough is it to keep playing Janikowski when he’s clearly not himself?
Jackson: “We had a plan, once he made a decision he was playing a week ago, to get him to this point because now we have a good stretch of time we can possibly get him totally healthy. He wants to be out there with his teammates. I have to make the right decision for the football team. As long as it doesn’t cost us because a half of Janikowski might be as good as most in this league, in my opinion. We’re not going to put him in a situation where he hurts himself, but we’re also not going to not let him go out and kick when he wants to compete and play. He’s done a good job. He made the field goal. He kicked the ball. We had some bloop kicks. He kicked one out they couldn’t get. I think we got a chance to get him healthy now, get him back up to being 100 percent or close to it. I think the plan’s worked.”
Q: What’s been difference with Denarius Moore last two weeks?
Jackson: I think it happens in this league. That’s my point. A week ago it was Jacoby. This week it was Denarius. I couldn’t tell you who it will be next week. It might be Darrius, it might be Kevin Boss, who knows? You don’t know. It all depends on how teams defense you and that’s how we play. We have a way and rhythm about how we play football on offense. Sometimes a guy might get targeted a lot more than another because it’s based on how the defense plays, based on where the quarterback sees his progression. I’m not going to say the past two weeks we just tried to throw it at him a ton. I know in the Denver game he had 12 opportunities. I think in this one he had seven and caught five. Some guys didn’t have any, some guys had some. That’s going to happen. That’s the beauty of what we do, whoever has the hot hand might get it. Whoever can get open is going to get it. We’re going to keep doing that.
massraider
Footballguy
Was actually Googling 'mid ankle sprain' and came across Cork latest post:
Relatively good news?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Could it be argued that we have as much young talent as any team in the league? Right there with Cincy and S.F. maybe?
Just about everywhere you look on this roster, there are young, solid players. Al stocked us well for all the grief he took.
The Palmer deal will hurt "stud" depth going forward (if it's two #1's), but if he keeps us in the playoff mix the next few years, it's well worth it.
Just about everywhere you look on this roster, there are young, solid players. Al stocked us well for all the grief he took.
The Palmer deal will hurt "stud" depth going forward (if it's two #1's), but if he keeps us in the playoff mix the next few years, it's well worth it.
massraider
Footballguy
Best kept secret in the league is the left side of our line. I have watched Jared Veldheer, every week, just bury someone. Wiz should be a rookie of the year candidate.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Wiz comes from good stock. It should be no surprise to anyone he's playing this well.
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Agreed. Wiz certainly does have a family pedigree.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Sole possession of first place, fellas!
Garrett
Footballguy
Sole possession of first place, fellas!
I am hoping this extra rest will help get over some of the injuries on both sides of the ball.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
No question that Al took tons of heat in drafts and sacrificing future depth for wins in the here and now. But we are surprisingly really solid going forward with stable of young players who have developed quickly and effectively. Can't say enough about Veldheer and Wiz -- thwy'vestepped up big-time and have been so stout this year.Not only that, for all the cr@p the Raiders have taken in drafts, we now have an amazing number of Top 10 overall draft picks on this team:
Carson Palmer, 1st (CIN 2003)
Darren McFadden, 4th (OAK 2008)
Aaron Curry, 4th (SEA 2009)
Richard Seymour, 6th (NE 2001)
Michael Huff, 7th (OAK 2006)
Darrius Heyward-Bey, 7th (OAK 2009)
John Henderson, 9th (JAX 2002)
Rolando McClain, 9th (OAK 2010)
Only the 49ers have more with 9 (also a potential reason why they are for real this year).
Garrett
Footballguy
I thought Barksdale looked good at RT on Thursday as well. Veldheer, Wiz, Barksdale are a very bright future if we can solidify LT/C/RT with a 2nd rounder and two 3rd rounders.
massraider
Footballguy
Remaining schedules for the division contenders in this division (in other words, everyone):
Denver:
@San Diego
@Minnesota
Chicago
New England
@Buffalo
Kansas City
San Diego:
@Chicago
Denver
@Jacksonville
Buffalo
Baltimore
@Detroit
@Oakland
Kansas City:
@New England
Pittsburgh
@Chicago
@NY Jets
Green Bay
Oakland
@Denver
Oakland:
@Minnesota
Chicago
@Miami
@Green Bay
Detroit
@Kansas City
San Diego
Simply no reason to not win this division. KC has a murderer's row lineup, and just lost Cassell for a few weeks. The Broncos are running the Veer, unless they add Bronko Nagurski this week, they have no running backs left. San Diego doesn't like to get sand kicked in their face, and are facing a bunch of physical teams the next few weeks.
Denver:
@San Diego
@Minnesota
Chicago
New England
@Buffalo
Kansas City
San Diego:
@Chicago
Denver
@Jacksonville
Buffalo
Baltimore
@Detroit
@Oakland
Kansas City:
@New England
Pittsburgh
@Chicago
@NY Jets
Green Bay
Oakland
@Denver
Oakland:
@Minnesota
Chicago
@Miami
@Green Bay
Detroit
@Kansas City
San Diego
Simply no reason to not win this division. KC has a murderer's row lineup, and just lost Cassell for a few weeks. The Broncos are running the Veer, unless they add Bronko Nagurski this week, they have no running backs left. San Diego doesn't like to get sand kicked in their face, and are facing a bunch of physical teams the next few weeks.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Sorry that article formatted so horribly, with all the spaces. 
No. 16
Footballguy
Yah, I'm actually worried how our team will draft from here on out.It seems like Al Davis still fell in love with the physical freaks, but his draft success came once he realized character DOES matter. So then Al Davis started drafting unknown, unheralded atheltic freaks who actually care about football. Now look at the talent on the roster. People have always said that the Raiders are always stocked with talent, but now they have players who are talented and willing to work. I honestly have never heard the beat writers saying anything nasty regarding our players in terms of not doing their work or having a bunch of egos in the locker room. It's very refreshing.
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massraider
Footballguy
I get what you are saying, but I haven't even bothered thinking about that. To hell with the future. Any realistic Raiders fan has been looking to the future since 2003. This team, with the addition of Carson Palmer, why not us? Any team in the AFC look unbeatable? The NFC, minus Green Bay, is even worse. It is the Pack and a bunch of other teams, and we are one of those other teams. I am thinking about the division, and maybe homefield advantage. Maybe all the way through the playoffs. Texans had the #1 seed as of Sunday, and now Schaub is out for the year. I'm thinking Super Bowl. Yeah, I said it.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I appreciate your optimism, but give me the blueprint where we go to New England and even slow down that passing game?That's the only matchup I would really dread.
massraider
Footballguy
What's their plan for slowing the Raiders down? Pats are running around with the worst pass defense in the league. No pass rush, and they dream of having our defensive backfield, if you can imagine that. I respect the Pats, but I also am seeing the Pats for what they are. Not even close to a complete team. We don't matchup well with them, we don't have the LBs to cover the short stuff, but that doesn't mean we have to play them week 1 of the playoffs either.
The #1 or #2 seed is very much within reach for this team.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Wow. I'd be satisfied if the Raiders could just string a few W's together. They need to have that look of a team that steps onto the field and pretty much knows that they are going to win, and can choose the method of dissecting the opposition. The cold, cocky, bold team that they used to be. I'm not getting myself all in a jizz over one impressive game against a sad, tissue soft, Norv Turner coached Charger team. There's a lot going for the Raiders though, favorable schedule, easily the best coach in the division. DMC coming back hopefully soon. But let's see if they can continue the swagger before whispering the playoffs, let alone Super Bowl. They have a long way to go to get where they want to be, and no one, not even the bottom feeders are going to give them games on a silver platter. You gotta come ready to play on the field and bring it every Sunday, or you're an alsoran before you know it.
massraider
Footballguy
Hey, before last week, they were the favorites. They weren't sad and soft until the Raiders punched them in the mouth last week. Don't dismiss what they did last week. The Chargers also played the Pack tough two weeks ago. The Raiders made them look like that, they weren't some crap team playing out the string. We went on the road, and took over the division. We've beaten the Texans and Jets, both without Carson Palmer. And we should be able to expect Carson to get even better the next few weeks.
Our schedule is very, very do-able the rest of the year. Green Bay, and a bunch of other games we have every reason to think we CAN win.
We've had as many injuries as any team in the league, I have to think. Can we get McClain, Ford, Reece, Chekwa, Chris Johnson, Satele, DMC healthy? And what does this team look like when we do?
Hey, I am not saying we are the favorites for anything. But I have watched this team play neck for neck with the best teams, then the offense gets a few three and outs, the D springs a leak, and we get down by two scores, and it's all over. Well, we are learning what a nice luxury a good QB can be. This QB, this running game, this offensive line,this pass rush, this is what playoff teams look like. Rush defense? Still a concern. But there's no team that doesn't have a weakness.
massraider
Footballguy
Steve Corkran Raider chat starting now:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/15/raiders-live-chat-today-at-noon-12/
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
No doubt about it massraider,
This team is getting better. I have always been a J Camp supporter. I loved the way he looked in preseason game #3 against the Saints, and he showed significant improvement in his decision making, tempo, leadership of the team. He was getting that swagger I was talking about. Then he went and got his shoulder piledriven in the ground. Tough break. I wish him well, but it's ultimately a story of what couldabeen with Campbell. I really thought he had some Jim Plunkett type fire in him to ressurect his career. But that chapter is closed. I reluctantly embraced the Carson Palmer era.
I'll be the first to admit I didn't like the trade. I still can't justify 2 first round picks. That's tough to fathom coming off a draft where we had to wait till day 2 to draft. That kinda sucks. You can't make that a habit trading away stud picks.
That being said, Mr. Palmer is showing that his arm is very much ok, better than that. He's challenging the safeties up top and punishing them with his connection to D. Moore. His footwork in the pocket is impressive. His YPA was off the chart this last game, and it's at least very entertaining to see the Raiders deep vertical game again. I was a big fan of the Stabler to Branch, Plunkett to Branch era (Cliffy was my childhood hero). We haven't had that type of consistent deep threat connection in generations of Raider football.
There's a lot to be thankful for as Raider fans and I could go into another diatribe of all our warts, but I want to be positive as this team is on the upswing right now. But the KC and Denver games where we played significantly weaker opponents (and on our soil) gives me reason to worry that the team can sustain the focus to be consistently great.
I watched the Packers last night turn that game against the Vikings into a scrimmage. Rodgers was handing the ball off to their inconsistent backs and would always dial up a 3rd and long completion on back shoulder fades. It was like taking candy from a baby. Rodgers has that swagger. That team lines up on opening kickoff and they know what they are going to do to the other team and they do it. The Vikings never got up off the mat.
Well that's what the Raiders need to be. Bullies like that.
This team is getting better. I have always been a J Camp supporter. I loved the way he looked in preseason game #3 against the Saints, and he showed significant improvement in his decision making, tempo, leadership of the team. He was getting that swagger I was talking about. Then he went and got his shoulder piledriven in the ground. Tough break. I wish him well, but it's ultimately a story of what couldabeen with Campbell. I really thought he had some Jim Plunkett type fire in him to ressurect his career. But that chapter is closed. I reluctantly embraced the Carson Palmer era.
I'll be the first to admit I didn't like the trade. I still can't justify 2 first round picks. That's tough to fathom coming off a draft where we had to wait till day 2 to draft. That kinda sucks. You can't make that a habit trading away stud picks.
That being said, Mr. Palmer is showing that his arm is very much ok, better than that. He's challenging the safeties up top and punishing them with his connection to D. Moore. His footwork in the pocket is impressive. His YPA was off the chart this last game, and it's at least very entertaining to see the Raiders deep vertical game again. I was a big fan of the Stabler to Branch, Plunkett to Branch era (Cliffy was my childhood hero). We haven't had that type of consistent deep threat connection in generations of Raider football.
There's a lot to be thankful for as Raider fans and I could go into another diatribe of all our warts, but I want to be positive as this team is on the upswing right now. But the KC and Denver games where we played significantly weaker opponents (and on our soil) gives me reason to worry that the team can sustain the focus to be consistently great.
I watched the Packers last night turn that game against the Vikings into a scrimmage. Rodgers was handing the ball off to their inconsistent backs and would always dial up a 3rd and long completion on back shoulder fades. It was like taking candy from a baby. Rodgers has that swagger. That team lines up on opening kickoff and they know what they are going to do to the other team and they do it. The Vikings never got up off the mat.
Well that's what the Raiders need to be. Bullies like that.
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