ebcpastor2004
Footballguy
If I told you what I gave for him before last season you'd see that I nearly tripled the value. I'll PM you in 58 sometime.
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2011 offseason dynasty trades (1 Viewer)
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footballstar
Footballguy
12 team, 10 keeper, non-ppr, 1/2/2/1/1/1
Team A:
Best
Sidney Rice
Cassel
Team B:
1.01
Team A:
Best
Sidney Rice
Cassel
Team B:
1.01
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gianmarco
Footballguy
Not that it matters, but which Rice? And give me the Best/Rice side all day.
footballstar
Footballguy
Sorry, Sidney Rice.
footballstar
Footballguy
Team B made out like a bandit.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 team ppr, start QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, K, 2 flex from RB/WR/TE
Team A gives:
Flynn, Matt GBP QB
Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB
Manningham, Mario NYG WR
White, Roddy ATL WR
Team B gives:
Freeman, Josh TBB QB
Henne, Chad MIA QB
Bryant, Dez DAL WR
Williams, Mike TBB WR
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.11
Team A gives:
Flynn, Matt GBP QB
Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB
Manningham, Mario NYG WR
White, Roddy ATL WR
Team B gives:
Freeman, Josh TBB QB
Henne, Chad MIA QB
Bryant, Dez DAL WR
Williams, Mike TBB WR
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.11
mcintyre1
Footballguy
I'm Team B, I now have the 2.03, 2.07, 2.12, 3.01, and 3.09
This looks familiar
BuckeyeChaos
Footballguy
Our league is a little confusing with contract lengths and amounts and roster limitations so some of the logic of this trade might not be readily apparent. 16 team league we can only roster 4 RBs and start 2 so I like quality over quantity. It is a ppr league as well.
I have MJD, Moreno and Best and open spot currently.
I traded Moreno (2 yr deal), 1.1 and 1.8 for Jamal Charles (3 yr deal) and 1.15
I have MJD, Moreno and Best and open spot currently.
I traded Moreno (2 yr deal), 1.1 and 1.8 for Jamal Charles (3 yr deal) and 1.15
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
DeSean was traded straight up for Daniel Thomas in a PPR league. Seems like robbery to me, D-Jax has got to be worth more than that.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Not necessarily. Jackson doesn't have all that many receptions - just a ridiculous YPC number. Maclin is probably the better PPR receiver on the Eagles' roster.I'm high on Thomas too and might consider this trade if I had it on the table.
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eraclansing
Footballguy
This trade just went down in our 14 team PPR dynasty league:
Team A gives up:
Vincent Jackson
1.05
4.05
Team B gives up:
Dez Bryant
1.11
Team A gives up:
Vincent Jackson
1.05
4.05
Team B gives up:
Dez Bryant
1.11
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm sure it would even seem like robbery to Thomas' mother.
So you would consider trading Desean for the 1.5 rookie pick? Thats crazy, even in PPR. Actaully i would trade the 1.1 for Jackson in a PPR.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
When you put it that way... All I'm saying is that while it is favored to the Jackson side, I don't think it's "robbery". Especially depending on my roster and if it was a PPR league.But if you didn't know the name, what would a stat line of 47/1056/6 say to you? Also, his career best is 62/1156/9 and he has an emerging player opposite him that could steal touches.
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I see your point, but actually Jacksons numbers would have looked like this had he played all 16 games:55 rec, 1251 yards, 7 TD's, plus he is always good for another 100 and 1 on the ground.I also dont think Jackson will always be a low reception guy. He will never be a 90-100 reception kind of guy, but i think he will end up being a 70-75 catch a year guy, especially once Vick is out of the picture. I will admit i might overvalue Jackson since i am a Zealots guy and not only is it non-ppr, but it also scores for return yardage.
foxco
Footballguy
But it isn't DJax for the 1.5, it's DJax for Daniel Thomas. Once a specific player is involved it's no longer about the pick IMO. If you think Thomas is going to be a bell cow then it makes sense. I'll assume the team trading DJax has adequate WRs to make plug in and had a need for a RB. I don't think it's that far off, though I would try and get more for DJax personally - but if that's the best he can do and he believes in Thomas, it's not so bad.'Andy Dufresne said:
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Yep.
BuckeyeChaos
Footballguy
thoughts?Go Deep, I thought you especially might like it'BuckeyeChaos said:
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
I personally don't like that deal. Then again I am higher on Ingram than a majority of people here. I don't see the gap between Charles and Ingram being that huge in the future. Certainly not Moreno and the 7 spot move big (and I am not even a big Moreno fan).
BuckeyeChaos
Footballguy
I appreciate your opinion. My thinking on this was that Charles is top 5 and considering that we only start 2 RBs I think a duo of MJD and Charles will give me an advantage. I'm a little shaky on Moreno although I like him. He really struggled when Tebow took over and all indications are that it is Tebows team. Both his goal line carries and receptions dropped to next to nothing. The other guy I'm struggling with is Ingram. Although I like him as well (I've argued as such in other threads) I do worry about his splitting time initially and possibly into the future. PPR value would take a hit if Bush stays as well.Just my thought process.
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
I think Ingram is a top 10 FF RB from day one. While I don't like Moreno personally, he could net a decent amount in trade I think. Overall not a deal that I would feel bad about, even if I prefer the other side.
BuckeyeChaos
Footballguy
Thanks man. There is a part of me that feels similarly to Ingram but something nags at me. I actually hope it helps both sides since this is a long term dynasty and would hate to burn bridges with lopsided trades.Without really fully understanding your league i would say you got the better end of the deal, but its close. Assuming you are not weak at other positions i like moving depth to get who i consider to be the #1 RB in PPR's.
BuckeyeChaos
Footballguy
Thanks Go Deep. 4 year old league and through good trades and lots of luck I've amassed the following core teamstart 1 QB-Schaub and Freemanstart 2 RB-MJD, Charles, Best, open slotstart 2 WR-AJ, DeShawn Jackson, Crabtree, open slotstart 1 TE-Findley, MoeakiI've got quite a few rookie picks next year so I thought I could deal this year's and be ok
Dez
Footballguy
How does this happen ?
Mike wallace is solid but that is ridiculous to give up that much for him.Unless the rosters are tiny and the picks couldn't be fostered this is a bizarre deal.
I like the AD side, but it isn't that bad.
Mathews > Best
AD > 1.01 + sanders and the move up in the 2nd, but it isn't all that bad.
Best is now in a committee where he won't get goal line carries.
Dez
Footballguy
35 man active rosters plus up to a 30 man taxi where you can carry rookies for 3 years.
Makes the trade even worse for the guy giving up all those picks.
greggorymac
Footballguy
Standard scoring, Non-ppr...
Forte for Ingram?
Forte for Ingram?
TheWick
Footballguy
Ingram by quite a bit in that format...Saints really put up good rushing numbers before last year with all the injuries. I would expect them to return to being a 15-20 rushing TD team. I don't see anyway the Bears get there with the current offense / line.If Ingram gets the majority of the carries in that offense 1200 yards and 10 TDs would be expected. The non PPR really takes the edge off of Forte.
Slight edge to Ingram, but very close.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Mostly smaller trades (except the first one)that recently went down in my league, none of them involving me:
1.
Crabtree
Jacoby Jones
for
V-Jax
2.
Jordy Nelson
for
Lance Moore
2 2012 2nds
3.
Larod Stephens-Howling
for
Willis McGahee
1.
Crabtree
Jacoby Jones
for
V-Jax
2.
Jordy Nelson
for
Lance Moore
2 2012 2nds
3.
Larod Stephens-Howling
for
Willis McGahee
215-184(8%) advantage Peterson side.I could see this trade being much closer by years end though if Mathews/and or Ingram end up finishing in the top 5-10 RB's.
Dez
Footballguy
What do you guys think about this deal ? I think the guy getting Marshall got a steal. Thoughts ?
mcintyre1
Footballguy
Marshall is really hard to sell, in my experience. The people that believe in his talent over his 10 cent head tend to already own him, and everyone else doesn't want to take on the risk. If the team that got Marshall is close to being a contender, I like it. Otherwise, I do really like Ford and I think you can get some solid chances to pick up good players with the 1.05 and 1.10. The real issue this year is going to be picking the handful of guys that actually will be good out of the massive middle clump of players that everyone values fairly similarly.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Zealots scoring (non-PPR)
I know I'm running a risk giving up a really good RB in Ingram, but I'm pretty sure I'll get a good one (Thomas or Williams) with the #4. And I already have Gore and Forte. Now my receivers are Andre Johnson, Miles Austin, and Brandon Marshall.
BuckeyeChaos
Footballguy
I love this deal for you. I've become a little disenchanted with the top 3 picks and think acquiring the proven player and maybe the #1 WR is a solid steal for you. We have no idea if Ingram, Green or Jones will pan out but I'm certain AJ will do alright for you.
Like it.I prefer Andre to 1.01 and like 1.04 over harvin
Instinctive
Footballguy
Oakland Raiders will give
Whitehurst, Charlie SEA QB
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.01
To Houston Texans for
Holmes, Santonio NYJ WR
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.03
I need a QB and I'm stacked at WR, with TB Mike, Colston, Nicks, and Dez still. Now I can pair Ingram with Charles and M. Bush
Unfortunately, I still do need a QB. Whitehurst, Orton, Kolb, and A Smith are my guys...ugh
Whitehurst, Charlie SEA QB
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.01
To Houston Texans for
Holmes, Santonio NYJ WR
Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.03
I need a QB and I'm stacked at WR, with TB Mike, Colston, Nicks, and Dez still. Now I can pair Ingram with Charles and M. Bush
Unfortunately, I still do need a QB. Whitehurst, Orton, Kolb, and A Smith are my guys...ugh
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eaglesfan7
Footballguy
You could pretty much get any qb you want for the 1.01 except maybe Rodgers and brees.
Drinkin Buddy
Footballguy
$400 PPR cap league:
trade 1:
Dez Bryant $42
for
Johnny Knox $4
trade 2:
Blount $4
85 $29
for
Gates $33
Ginn $1
trade 1:
Dez Bryant $42
for
Johnny Knox $4
trade 2:
Blount $4
85 $29
for
Gates $33
Ginn $1
I'm in this league. My first thought was the team that got Marshall got the better end of the deal. In Marshall they got the best player in the trade. Keller who has not lived up to the hype but has good upside and should see more targets assuming either Braylon/Holmes or both leave. Also factoring in this is a 1.5 PPR TE league and several owners have horded TE's making acquiring one very difficult. Than in Fred you have a guy who projects as having at least one more solid season.After more thought I've changed my mind. In general I think the trade is fair and if I had to pick a side it would depend on team needs. Ford is better than I thought and has good upside but that 1.5 pick (which it pains me to say originally belonged to me) is suddenly looking very very good and there is going to be a lot of talent available at the 1.10 pick as well.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Then I still need a good RB though.My issue with QBs is that people seem to overvalue them. One guy actually said QBs were more valuable because 18 of the top 20 scorers were QBs. That means nothing because it's not like we start multiple QBs or a superflex in Zealots. All QBs score high - therefore all QBs are about the same value. What the other guy said made no sense to me.
Anyway, RB is king in Zealots, so the 1.01 being used on Ingram or Green is a given for me.
Instinctive
Footballguy
The following trade has been accepted, and is awaiting commissioner review:
Houston Texans gave up:
Kolb, Kevin PHI QB
Williams, Mike TBB WR
Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Houston Texans
Buffalo Bills gave up:
Schaub, Matt HOU QB
Year 2012 Round 1 Draft Pick from Buffalo Bills
Another Zealots trade. With this trade, not sure what happens to the 2012 2nd rounder (team was 1.03 this year) - could be really high again, could be as low as 1.10 or so.
The 2012 1st rounder - late pick this year, earliest is gets is maybe 1.06 - team is probably in the playoffs though
Houston Texans gave up:
Kolb, Kevin PHI QB
Williams, Mike TBB WR
Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Houston Texans
Buffalo Bills gave up:
Schaub, Matt HOU QB
Year 2012 Round 1 Draft Pick from Buffalo Bills
Another Zealots trade. With this trade, not sure what happens to the 2012 2nd rounder (team was 1.03 this year) - could be really high again, could be as low as 1.10 or so.
The 2012 1st rounder - late pick this year, earliest is gets is maybe 1.06 - team is probably in the playoffs though
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