2011 offseason dynasty trades (2 Viewers)

[Eastwood]

Probably just over paid, but just made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynasty

I gave: Baldwin, Sanders

I got: Little, 2.5 rookie pick

 

[King of the Jungle]

Probably just over paid, but just made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynastyI gave: Baldwin, SandersI got: Little, 2.5 rookie pick

I like it because I am pretty high on Little. I don't see Sanders ever being much more than a spot FF starter and those types are a dime a dozen. Give me the guy who IMO has the most upside as a WR1....Little.

 

[Dez]

Probably just over paid, but just made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynastyI gave: Baldwin, SandersI got: Little, 2.5 rookie pick

I like it because I am pretty high on Little. I don't see Sanders ever being much more than a spot FF starter and those types are a dime a dozen. Give me the guy who IMO has the most upside as a WR1....Little.

Agreed

 

[doowain]

I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.

In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.

Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.

 

[Dez]

I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.

Who says Baldwin's talent is better the Little's ? A lot of people feel KC reached on Baldwin.

 

[Go deep]

I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.

Who says Baldwin's talent is better the Little's ? A lot of people feel KC reached on Baldwin.

Do you think that Little would have been drafted ahead of Baldwin had the Chiefs not "reached" for him?Im not saying i think Baldwin is better than Little, i think its pretty close, but im not sure i would use the Chiefs reaching for Baldwin as a defense. Littles situation certainly appears better to me. The Chiefs are a running team with alot more competition for receptions. Bowe, Moeaki, Mccluster, Charles >> Massaquoi, Cameron, Robiskie, Hillis. Cassel might be the better QB, but he could also hurt the situation because he seems to lock onto Bowe like Delhomme did with Steve Smith. Average/good QB's have a tendency to do that.

 

[doowain]

And McCoy isn't even average. More targets does not mean quality targets. Ask Braylon Edwards.

 

[Eastwood]

And McCoy isn't even average. More targets does not mean quality targets. Ask Braylon Edwards.

I think its a little too early to say McCoy is below, average, or above average. He's had not even half a season experience. But he showed flashes for sure. I think he could be a solid player in the league and he needs a #1WR to grow and develop with. Little should be that guy.

 

[Go deep]

And McCoy isn't even average. More targets does not mean quality targets. Ask Braylon Edwards.

I thought he looked pretty good considering the circumstances. I think its way to early to say he isnt even average.

I called Braylon and i asked him about getting alot of targets from a below average QB and he mentioned he caught 16 TD passes from Derrick Anderson.

 

[doowain]

And that season proved to be a fluke. Clearly.

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

Who won this one?

gave Houston, Lamarr OAK DE; Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.02; Year 2012 Round 3 Draft Pick

received Austin, Miles DAL WR;Vilma, Jonathan NOS LB

 

[Go deep]

Who won this one?gave Houston, Lamarr OAK DE; Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.02; Year 2012 Round 3 Draft Pickreceived Austin, Miles DAL WR;Vilma, Jonathan NOS LB

Depends, if Ingram is available in a NON-PPR at the 1.2, then that side. Other than that i would give the edge to the Austin side. Either way its close.

 

[BrainDeadGenius]

Who won this one?gave Houston, Lamarr OAK DE; Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.02; Year 2012 Round 3 Draft Pickreceived Austin, Miles DAL WR;Vilma, Jonathan NOS LB

Depends, if Ingram is available in a NON-PPR at the 1.2, then that side. Other than that i would give the edge to the Austin side. Either way its close.

Are you kidding me? If Miles Austin was available in my rookie draft, I would take him with the 1.01 every single time. Austin > 1.01. Adding Vilma for Houston and a 2012 3rd rounder is icing on the cake.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.

I always go talent over situation as well, and for me Little is much more talented than Baldwin.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Probably just over paid, but just made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynastyI gave: Baldwin, SandersI got: Little, 2.5 rookie pick

I like it because I am pretty high on Little. I don't see Sanders ever being much more than a spot FF starter and those types are a dime a dozen. Give me the guy who IMO has the most upside as a WR1....Little.

The Steeler's offense is potent enough to support two starting fantasy WR's. Are you assuming Sanders gets beat out for the #2 role? Because I can't see him as the #2 on the Steelers and not being a fantasy startable WR.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Team A Gave: Bowe/2.02/3.02

Team B Gave: Jamaal Charles

 

[TenTimes]

1QB, 1-3RB, 2-5WR, 1-2TE, K, DEF (1PPR)

A: Roddy White, Pierre Garcon

B: Steve Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, 2012 1st (#5 of 12 power rank 2011)

 

[King of the Jungle]

Probably just over paid, but just made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynastyI gave: Baldwin, SandersI got: Little, 2.5 rookie pick

I like it because I am pretty high on Little. I don't see Sanders ever being much more than a spot FF starter and those types are a dime a dozen. Give me the guy who IMO has the most upside as a WR1....Little.

The Steeler's offense is potent enough to support two starting fantasy WR's. Are you assuming Sanders gets beat out for the #2 role? Because I can't see him as the #2 on the Steelers and not being a fantasy startable WR.

Is supporting a #2 equal 59 catches/755 yards? Because if it is I am not too concerned about being on my FF squad.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.

How does Baldwin have superior talent over Little? Does height equate to talent?

 

[Kree]

Probably just over paid, but just made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynastyI gave: Baldwin, SandersI got: Little, 2.5 rookie pick

I like it because I am pretty high on Little. I don't see Sanders ever being much more than a spot FF starter and those types are a dime a dozen. Give me the guy who IMO has the most upside as a WR1....Little.

The Steeler's offense is potent enough to support two starting fantasy WR's. Are you assuming Sanders gets beat out for the #2 role? Because I can't see him as the #2 on the Steelers and not being a fantasy startable WR.

Is supporting a #2 equal 59 catches/755 yards? Because if it is I am not too concerned about being on my FF squad.

2009Hines Ward - 95 receptions, 1167 yards, 6 TDsSantonio Holmes - 79 receptions, 1248 yards, 5 TDsMike Wallace - 39 receptions, 756 yards, 6 TDsHeath Miller - 76 receptions, 789 yards, 6 TDsLast year without Roethy playing 4 games, stats were down across the board in general. I like Sanders enough to think he can get ~900 yards next year if he is given consistent time (Unlikely due to Ward's loyalty), and good enough to be around 1000 yards +/- 100 yards yearly. Not a starter, but good WR3 with upside games with Roethy flinging the ball.

 

[finito]

I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.

How does Baldwin have superior talent over Little? Does height equate to talent?

I think they're very close in talent. I'd be happy with either.

 

[djmich]

Team A Gave: Bowe/2.02/3.02Team B Gave: Jamaal Charles

Nice, I wish I could dump 2nd and 3rd round rookie picks to upgrade to a top 5 dynasty RB. I find it very hard to pry away a guy like Charles for anything other than a massive overpayment.

 

[fsufan]

non PPR

team A gave Boldin

team B gave 2012 1st

 

[King of the Jungle]

non PPRteam A gave Boldinteam B gave 2012 1st

I love theses types of trades. Aging veteran unlikely to return to star status for a future pick.

 

[Dragon1952]

I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.

How does Baldwin have superior talent over Little? Does height equate to talent?

I think they're very close in talent. I'd be happy with either.

Personally I think Sanders is in a great situation also, especially in PPR. Little is liable to perform much lower than his potential in Cleveland. Baldwin??? who knows, but I think I'd prefer Sanders/Baldwin.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Going to get ripped om this...but confession is good:

Ray Rice for Hakeem Nicks

PPR 12 team, start up to 4 WR

 

[Eastwood]

Going to get ripped om this...but confession is good:Ray Rice for Hakeem NicksPPR 12 team, start up to 4 WR

I love both players. Both go in the first round of a lot of start ups. Depending on team needs, I can see either owner making this trade.

 

[Dez]

Going to get ripped om this...but confession is good:Ray Rice for Hakeem NicksPPR 12 team, start up to 4 WR

I seen a guy in a $750 league trade away Chris Johnson and a future 1st round pick for Nicks and a 2nd this year.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Going to get ripped om this...but confession is good:Ray Rice for Hakeem NicksPPR 12 team, start up to 4 WR

I love both players. Both go in the first round of a lot of start ups. Depending on team needs, I can see either owner making this trade.

I have a wide receiver addiction. I will definitely be trying to move one for an RB.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Going to get ripped om this...but confession is good:Ray Rice for Hakeem NicksPPR 12 team, start up to 4 WR

I seen a guy in a $750 league trade away Chris Johnson and a future 1st round pick for Nicks and a 2nd this year.

That helps....thanks.

 

[sihaokills]

1QB, 1-3RB, 2-5WR, 1-2TE, K, DEF (1PPR)A: Roddy White, Pierre Garcon B: Steve Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, 2012 1st (#5 of 12 power rank 2011)

Go with Roddy and Garçon here

 

[fsufan]

non PPRteam A gave Boldinteam B gave 2012 1st

I love theses types of trades. Aging veteran unlikely to return to star status for a future pick.

and i love owners that over value rookie picks and under value vets

 

[TenTimes]

1QB, 1-3RB, 2-5WR, 1-2TE, K, DEF (1PPR)A: Roddy White, Pierre Garcon B: Steve Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, 2012 1st (#5 of 12 power rank 2011)

Go with Roddy and Garçon here

Really hard to part with Lloyd, but I've always wanted to own Roddy. Think I overpaid, honestly.

 

[_lurker_]

non PPRteam A gave Boldinteam B gave 2012 1st

I love theses types of trades. Aging veteran unlikely to return to star status for a future pick.

and i love owners that over value rookie picks and under value vets

the thing is, you can get a Boldin type in-season for the same price, but between now and then, Boldin has a much higher chance of injury than an unspent draft pick. Also, if something odd happens and you find yourself out of the playoff hunt early, then you can keep your pick.I like trading next year's first around week six when it's clear that my team is doing well and the other owner is out of the playoff hunt. Heck, you could probably get two of his older vets for the one draft pick, like if he also had Reggie Wayne or Michael Turner.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

non PPR

team A gave Boldin

team B gave 2012 1st

I love theses types of trades. Aging veteran unlikely to return to star status for a future pick.

and i love owners that over value rookie picks and under value vets

the thing is, you can get a Boldin type in-season for the same price, but between now and then, Boldin has a much higher chance of injury than an unspent draft pick. Also, if something odd happens and you find yourself out of the playoff hunt early, then you can keep your pick.I like trading next year's first around week six when it's clear that my team is doing well and the other owner is out of the playoff hunt. Heck, you could probably get two of his older vets for the one draft pick, like if he also had Reggie Wayne or Michael Turner.

Not really a true point at all. That rookie pick could turn out to be absolutely nothing. Say Darrius Heryward-Bey. Even if Boldin gets injured, he will still perform at a decent level when he comes back.

 

[underdog223]

Team A...A. Benn & A.J Green

Team B...M. Ryan & S. Holmes

 

[_lurker_]

non PPR

team A gave Boldin

team B gave 2012 1st

I love theses types of trades. Aging veteran unlikely to return to star status for a future pick.

and i love owners that over value rookie picks and under value vets

the thing is, you can get a Boldin type in-season for the same price, but between now and then, Boldin has a much higher chance of injury than an unspent draft pick. Also, if something odd happens and you find yourself out of the playoff hunt early, then you can keep your pick.I like trading next year's first around week six when it's clear that my team is doing well and the other owner is out of the playoff hunt. Heck, you could probably get two of his older vets for the one draft pick, like if he also had Reggie Wayne or Michael Turner.

Not really a true point at all. That rookie pick could turn out to be absolutely nothing. Say Darrius Heryward-Bey. Even if Boldin gets injured, he will still perform at a decent level when he comes back.

I wasn't advocating keeping it and using it on a rookie.

 

[BallzDeep]

12 team PPR

Start 1 QB, 2-3 RBs, 3-4 WRs, 1-2 TE's

This just happened in one of my leagues. (And team A dropped Blaine Gabbert and Eddie Royal for the trade to process due to roster limit)

Team A Traded LeSean McCoy and Mike Wallace

FOR

Team B Traded Adrian Peterson, Frank Gore, Toby Gerhart, Tony Gonzalez, (2) 2012 2nd round picks

 

[Dez]

Johnsons Beach gave up:

Flacco, Joe BAL QB

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.09

Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09

Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis

Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Johnsons Beach (Top 4 team)

Las Vegas gave up:

Brees, Drew NOS QB

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Las Vegas (bottom 4 team)

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Johnsons Beach gave up:

Flacco, Joe BAL QB

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.09

Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09

Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis

Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Johnsons Beach (Top 4 team)

Las Vegas gave up:

Brees, Drew NOS QB

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Las Vegas (bottom 4 team)

in 2014?

 

[No Way Jose]

12 team PPR

Start 1 QB, 2-3 RBs, 3-4 WRs, 1-2 TE's

This just happened in one of my leagues. (And team A dropped Blaine Gabbert and Eddie Royal for the trade to process due to roster limit)

Team A Traded LeSean McCoy and Mike Wallace

FOR

Team B Traded Adrian Peterson, Frank Gore, Toby Gerhart, Tony Gonzalez, (2) 2012 1st round picks

I actualy prefer What team A is getting even though it's older...the 2 2012 1st is what puts it over the top for me.

 

[adrenaline]

gave:

DE Osi Umenyiora NYG

received:

S William Moore ATL, OLB Sean Weatherspoon ATL & DE Everette Brown CAR

Still have Tuck & Justin Smith as my starting DEs, wanted to part with Osi before he gets too old. Moore & Weatherspoon step right into my starting lineup.

 

[Dez]

Johnsons Beach gave up:

Flacco, Joe BAL QB

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.09

Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09

Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis

Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Johnsons Beach (Top 4 team)

Las Vegas gave up:

Brees, Drew NOS QB

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Las Vegas (bottom 4 team)

in 2014?

Team is bad.

 

[finito]

Johnsons Beach gave up:

Flacco, Joe BAL QB

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.09

Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09

Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis

Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Johnsons Beach (Top 4 team)

Las Vegas gave up:

Brees, Drew NOS QB

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Las Vegas (bottom 4 team)

in 2014?

Team is bad.

How do you know it will be bad in 2014?

 

[Dez]

Johnsons Beach gave up:

Flacco, Joe BAL QB

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.09

Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09

Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis

Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Johnsons Beach (Top 4 team)

Las Vegas gave up:

Brees, Drew NOS QB

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Las Vegas (bottom 4 team)

in 2014?

Team is bad.

How do you know it will be bad in 2014?

Roster

Flacco (Blt)

Young (Tenn)

Thomas (NO)

Addai (Ind)

Torain (Wash)

Ivory (NO)

Jacobs (NYG)

Jackson (GB)

McGahee (Blt)

Faulk (NE)

Boldin (Blt)

Mason (Blt)

Ward (Pitt)

Royal (Den)

Gonzalez (Ind)

Washington (Tenn)

Walter (Hou)

Henderson (NO)

Edelman (NE)

Nelson (GB)

Robiskie (Cle)

Smith (NYJ)

Randle El (Pitt)

Keller (NYJ)

Gronkowski (NE)

Suisham (Pitt)

Nugent (Cin)

Taxi

Tebow (Den)

Webb (Minn)

Cruz (NYG)

Moore (Mia)

Hoomanawanui (StL)

Picks 1.09 and 1.10 this year in the top 25

No 1st in 2012

3 1st in 2013 (He better draft 3 great players to not be bottom 4 team in 2014)

or make tons of better trades has been made.

 

[Dez]

12 team PPR

Puerto Rico gave up:

Turner, Michael ATL RB

South Carolina gave up:

Green-Ellis, BenJarvus NEP RB

Smith, Steve CAR WR

Year 2011 Draft Pick 2.11

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.07

Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.07

Year 2012 Round 4 Draft Pick from South Carolina

 

[Go deep]

Johnsons Beach gave up:

Flacco, Joe BAL QB

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.09

Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09

Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis

Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Johnsons Beach (Top 4 team)

Las Vegas gave up:

Brees, Drew NOS QB

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Las Vegas (bottom 4 team)

in 2014?

Team is bad.

How do you know it will be bad in 2014?

Roster

Flacco (Blt)

Young (Tenn)

Thomas (NO)

Addai (Ind)

Torain (Wash)

Ivory (NO)

Jacobs (NYG)

Jackson (GB)

McGahee (Blt)

Faulk (NE)

Boldin (Blt)

Mason (Blt)

Ward (Pitt)

Royal (Den)

Gonzalez (Ind)

Washington (Tenn)

Walter (Hou)

Henderson (NO)

Edelman (NE)

Nelson (GB)

Robiskie (Cle)

Smith (NYJ)

Randle El (Pitt)

Keller (NYJ)

Gronkowski (NE)

Suisham (Pitt)

Nugent (Cin)

Taxi

Tebow (Den)

Webb (Minn)

Cruz (NYG)

Moore (Mia)

Hoomanawanui (StL)

Picks 1.09 and 1.10 this year in the top 25

No 1st in 2012

3 1st in 2013 (He better draft 3 great players to not be bottom 4 team in 2014)

or make tons of better trades has been made.

How far into the future are you allowed to trade your picks? Trading 2014 pick is crazy.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Give:

Ryan Fitzpatrick

2013 1st

2013 2nd

Get:

Matt Ryan

Mike Thomas

Other guy was stacked at QB (Brees, Ryan, Flacco) and has a great championship-caliber team...those picks will come around right when his team is starting to age a bit.

For me, I consider those 2013 picks free trading coupons right now, because I have no doubt that I'll recoup different picks in the next two years. Love trading over-valued future picks for young players, because you're improving your team now without having to sacrifice a valuable part of your lineup. Right now, Ryan becomes my starter, and I'm VERY high on him, especially with the drafting of Julio and Quizz. That offense is shifting more towards an aerial attack even as Gonzo ages quickly (not worried about that), and will be Ryan's show more than Turner's within a year. He was criminally undervalued in this trade, I believe, even with the other owner being so deep at QB. And Mike Thomas is the #1 WR in Jax, with only Lewis and MJD as competition for targets. Adds a young WR to my thin-ish WR corps, who I hope to package with someone else for a better starter.

All in all, love the trade for me. Feel like I got two potential starters/contributors for free.

 

[TenTimes]

Don't think you have to sell anyone on that trade, Conn

 

[Eastwood]

Traded away Roddy White for Mike Wallace and 2.2.