I like it because I am pretty high on Little. I don't see Sanders ever being much more than a spot FF starter and those types are a dime a dozen. Give me the guy who IMO has the most upside as a WR1....Little.Probably just over paid, but just made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynastyI gave: Baldwin, SandersI got: Little, 2.5 rookie pick
AgreedI like it because I am pretty high on Little. I don't see Sanders ever being much more than a spot FF starter and those types are a dime a dozen. Give me the guy who IMO has the most upside as a WR1....Little.Probably just over paid, but just made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynastyI gave: Baldwin, SandersI got: Little, 2.5 rookie pick
Who says Baldwin's talent is better the Little's ? A lot of people feel KC reached on Baldwin.I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.
Do you think that Little would have been drafted ahead of Baldwin had the Chiefs not "reached" for him?Im not saying i think Baldwin is better than Little, i think its pretty close, but im not sure i would use the Chiefs reaching for Baldwin as a defense. Littles situation certainly appears better to me. The Chiefs are a running team with alot more competition for receptions. Bowe, Moeaki, Mccluster, Charles >> Massaquoi, Cameron, Robiskie, Hillis. Cassel might be the better QB, but he could also hurt the situation because he seems to lock onto Bowe like Delhomme did with Steve Smith. Average/good QB's have a tendency to do that.Who says Baldwin's talent is better the Little's ? A lot of people feel KC reached on Baldwin.I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.
I think its a little too early to say McCoy is below, average, or above average. He's had not even half a season experience. But he showed flashes for sure. I think he could be a solid player in the league and he needs a #1WR to grow and develop with. Little should be that guy.And McCoy isn't even average. More targets does not mean quality targets. Ask Braylon Edwards.
I thought he looked pretty good considering the circumstances. I think its way to early to say he isnt even average.And McCoy isn't even average. More targets does not mean quality targets. Ask Braylon Edwards.
Depends, if Ingram is available in a NON-PPR at the 1.2, then that side. Other than that i would give the edge to the Austin side. Either way its close.Who won this one?gave Houston, Lamarr OAK DE; Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.02; Year 2012 Round 3 Draft Pickreceived Austin, Miles DAL WR;Vilma, Jonathan NOS LB
Are you kidding me? If Miles Austin was available in my rookie draft, I would take him with the 1.01 every single time. Austin > 1.01. Adding Vilma for Houston and a 2012 3rd rounder is icing on the cake.Depends, if Ingram is available in a NON-PPR at the 1.2, then that side. Other than that i would give the edge to the Austin side. Either way its close.Who won this one?gave Houston, Lamarr OAK DE; Year 2011 Draft Pick 1.02; Year 2012 Round 3 Draft Pickreceived Austin, Miles DAL WR;Vilma, Jonathan NOS LB
I always go talent over situation as well, and for me Little is much more talented than Baldwin.I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.
The Steeler's offense is potent enough to support two starting fantasy WR's. Are you assuming Sanders gets beat out for the #2 role? Because I can't see him as the #2 on the Steelers and not being a fantasy startable WR.I like it because I am pretty high on Little. I don't see Sanders ever being much more than a spot FF starter and those types are a dime a dozen. Give me the guy who IMO has the most upside as a WR1....Little.Probably just over paid, but just made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynastyI gave: Baldwin, SandersI got: Little, 2.5 rookie pick
Is supporting a #2 equal 59 catches/755 yards? Because if it is I am not too concerned about being on my FF squad.'The Real Hipster Doofus said:The Steeler's offense is potent enough to support two starting fantasy WR's. Are you assuming Sanders gets beat out for the #2 role? Because I can't see him as the #2 on the Steelers and not being a fantasy startable WR.'King of the Jungle said:I like it because I am pretty high on Little. I don't see Sanders ever being much more than a spot FF starter and those types are a dime a dozen. Give me the guy who IMO has the most upside as a WR1....Little.'Eastwood said:Probably just over paid, but just made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynastyI gave: Baldwin, SandersI got: Little, 2.5 rookie pick
How does Baldwin have superior talent over Little? Does height equate to talent?'doowain said:I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.
2009Hines Ward - 95 receptions, 1167 yards, 6 TDsSantonio Holmes - 79 receptions, 1248 yards, 5 TDsMike Wallace - 39 receptions, 756 yards, 6 TDsHeath Miller - 76 receptions, 789 yards, 6 TDsLast year without Roethy playing 4 games, stats were down across the board in general. I like Sanders enough to think he can get ~900 yards next year if he is given consistent time (Unlikely due to Ward's loyalty), and good enough to be around 1000 yards +/- 100 yards yearly. Not a starter, but good WR3 with upside games with Roethy flinging the ball.Is supporting a #2 equal 59 catches/755 yards? Because if it is I am not too concerned about being on my FF squad.'The Real Hipster Doofus said:The Steeler's offense is potent enough to support two starting fantasy WR's. Are you assuming Sanders gets beat out for the #2 role? Because I can't see him as the #2 on the Steelers and not being a fantasy startable WR.'King of the Jungle said:I like it because I am pretty high on Little. I don't see Sanders ever being much more than a spot FF starter and those types are a dime a dozen. Give me the guy who IMO has the most upside as a WR1....Little.'Eastwood said:Probably just over paid, but just made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynastyI gave: Baldwin, SandersI got: Little, 2.5 rookie pick
I think they're very close in talent. I'd be happy with either.How does Baldwin have superior talent over Little? Does height equate to talent?'doowain said:I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.
Nice, I wish I could dump 2nd and 3rd round rookie picks to upgrade to a top 5 dynasty RB. I find it very hard to pry away a guy like Charles for anything other than a massive overpayment.'Ultima Thule said:Team A Gave: Bowe/2.02/3.02Team B Gave: Jamaal Charles
I love theses types of trades. Aging veteran unlikely to return to star status for a future pick.non PPRteam A gave Boldinteam B gave 2012 1st
Personally I think Sanders is in a great situation also, especially in PPR. Little is liable to perform much lower than his potential in Cleveland. Baldwin??? who knows, but I think I'd prefer Sanders/Baldwin.I think they're very close in talent. I'd be happy with either.How does Baldwin have superior talent over Little? Does height equate to talent?'doowain said:I don't get why people think the Browns situation is so much better than the Chiefs. I think the opposite.In rookie drafts beyond the top tier, I always go talent over "situation". And Baldwin is the superior talent to Little. Its a crime that he's lasting to the 1.8-1.12 range.Give me the Baldwin/Sanders side.
I love both players. Both go in the first round of a lot of start ups. Depending on team needs, I can see either owner making this trade.Going to get ripped om this...but confession is good:Ray Rice for Hakeem NicksPPR 12 team, start up to 4 WR
I seen a guy in a $750 league trade away Chris Johnson and a future 1st round pick for Nicks and a 2nd this year.Going to get ripped om this...but confession is good:Ray Rice for Hakeem NicksPPR 12 team, start up to 4 WR
I have a wide receiver addiction. I will definitely be trying to move one for an RB.I love both players. Both go in the first round of a lot of start ups. Depending on team needs, I can see either owner making this trade.Going to get ripped om this...but confession is good:Ray Rice for Hakeem NicksPPR 12 team, start up to 4 WR![]()
That helps....thanks.I seen a guy in a $750 league trade away Chris Johnson and a future 1st round pick for Nicks and a 2nd this year.Going to get ripped om this...but confession is good:Ray Rice for Hakeem NicksPPR 12 team, start up to 4 WR
Go with Roddy and Garçon here'TenTimes said:1QB, 1-3RB, 2-5WR, 1-2TE, K, DEF (1PPR)A: Roddy White, Pierre Garcon B: Steve Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, 2012 1st (#5 of 12 power rank 2011)
and i love owners that over value rookie picks and under value vetsI love theses types of trades. Aging veteran unlikely to return to star status for a future pick.non PPRteam A gave Boldinteam B gave 2012 1st
Go with Roddy and Garçon here'TenTimes said:1QB, 1-3RB, 2-5WR, 1-2TE, K, DEF (1PPR)A: Roddy White, Pierre Garcon B: Steve Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, 2012 1st (#5 of 12 power rank 2011)
the thing is, you can get a Boldin type in-season for the same price, but between now and then, Boldin has a much higher chance of injury than an unspent draft pick. Also, if something odd happens and you find yourself out of the playoff hunt early, then you can keep your pick.I like trading next year's first around week six when it's clear that my team is doing well and the other owner is out of the playoff hunt. Heck, you could probably get two of his older vets for the one draft pick, like if he also had Reggie Wayne or Michael Turner.and i love owners that over value rookie picks and under value vetsI love theses types of trades. Aging veteran unlikely to return to star status for a future pick.non PPRteam A gave Boldinteam B gave 2012 1st
Not really a true point at all. That rookie pick could turn out to be absolutely nothing. Say Darrius Heryward-Bey. Even if Boldin gets injured, he will still perform at a decent level when he comes back.the thing is, you can get a Boldin type in-season for the same price, but between now and then, Boldin has a much higher chance of injury than an unspent draft pick. Also, if something odd happens and you find yourself out of the playoff hunt early, then you can keep your pick.I like trading next year's first around week six when it's clear that my team is doing well and the other owner is out of the playoff hunt. Heck, you could probably get two of his older vets for the one draft pick, like if he also had Reggie Wayne or Michael Turner.and i love owners that over value rookie picks and under value vetsI love theses types of trades. Aging veteran unlikely to return to star status for a future pick.non PPR
team A gave Boldin
team B gave 2012 1st
I wasn't advocating keeping it and using it on a rookie.Not really a true point at all. That rookie pick could turn out to be absolutely nothing. Say Darrius Heryward-Bey. Even if Boldin gets injured, he will still perform at a decent level when he comes back.the thing is, you can get a Boldin type in-season for the same price, but between now and then, Boldin has a much higher chance of injury than an unspent draft pick. Also, if something odd happens and you find yourself out of the playoff hunt early, then you can keep your pick.I like trading next year's first around week six when it's clear that my team is doing well and the other owner is out of the playoff hunt. Heck, you could probably get two of his older vets for the one draft pick, like if he also had Reggie Wayne or Michael Turner.and i love owners that over value rookie picks and under value vetsI love theses types of trades. Aging veteran unlikely to return to star status for a future pick.non PPR
team A gave Boldin
team B gave 2012 1st
in 2014?Johnsons Beach gave up:
Flacco, Joe BAL QB
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.09
Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09
Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis
Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Johnsons Beach (Top 4 team)
Las Vegas gave up:
Brees, Drew NOS QB
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Las Vegas (bottom 4 team)
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I actualy prefer What team A is getting even though it's older...the 2 2012 1st is what puts it over the top for me.12 team PPR
Start 1 QB, 2-3 RBs, 3-4 WRs, 1-2 TE's
This just happened in one of my leagues. (And team A dropped Blaine Gabbert and Eddie Royal for the trade to process due to roster limit)
Team A Traded LeSean McCoy and Mike Wallace
FOR
Team B Traded Adrian Peterson, Frank Gore, Toby Gerhart, Tony Gonzalez, (2) 2012 1st round picks
Team is bad.in 2014?Johnsons Beach gave up:
Flacco, Joe BAL QB
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.09
Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09
Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis
Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Johnsons Beach (Top 4 team)
Las Vegas gave up:
Brees, Drew NOS QB
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Las Vegas (bottom 4 team)
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How do you know it will be bad in 2014?Team is bad.in 2014?Johnsons Beach gave up:
Flacco, Joe BAL QB
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.09
Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09
Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis
Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Johnsons Beach (Top 4 team)
Las Vegas gave up:
Brees, Drew NOS QB
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Las Vegas (bottom 4 team)
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RosterHow do you know it will be bad in 2014?Team is bad.in 2014?Johnsons Beach gave up:
Flacco, Joe BAL QB
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.09
Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09
Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis
Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Johnsons Beach (Top 4 team)
Las Vegas gave up:
Brees, Drew NOS QB
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Las Vegas (bottom 4 team)
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How far into the future are you allowed to trade your picks? Trading 2014 pick is crazy.RosterHow do you know it will be bad in 2014?Team is bad.in 2014?Johnsons Beach gave up:
Flacco, Joe BAL QB
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.05
Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.09
Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.09
Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Memphis
Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Johnsons Beach (Top 4 team)
Las Vegas gave up:
Brees, Drew NOS QB
Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Las Vegas (bottom 4 team)
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Flacco (Blt)
Young (Tenn)
Thomas (NO)
Addai (Ind)
Torain (Wash)
Ivory (NO)
Jacobs (NYG)
Jackson (GB)
McGahee (Blt)
Faulk (NE)
Boldin (Blt)
Mason (Blt)
Ward (Pitt)
Royal (Den)
Gonzalez (Ind)
Washington (Tenn)
Walter (Hou)
Henderson (NO)
Edelman (NE)
Nelson (GB)
Robiskie (Cle)
Smith (NYJ)
Randle El (Pitt)
Keller (NYJ)
Gronkowski (NE)
Suisham (Pitt)
Nugent (Cin)
Taxi
Tebow (Den)
Webb (Minn)
Cruz (NYG)
Moore (Mia)
Hoomanawanui (StL)
Picks 1.09 and 1.10 this year in the top 25
No 1st in 2012
3 1st in 2013 (He better draft 3 great players to not be bottom 4 team in 2014)
or make tons of better trades has been made.