2012 In Season Dynasty Trade Thread (3 Viewers)

[Eminence]

Fox Scream gave up:McGahee, Willis DEN RB (1 Year Contract)Pitta, Dennis BAL TE (1 Year Contract)Malvern Monsters gave up:Crabtree, Michael SFO WR (2 Year Contract)Pettigrew, Brandon DET TE (2 Year Contract)2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Malvern MonstersWho wins?

Fox got the better players with longer contracts and a 2nd as a bonus. Was the trade with Dennis Pitta's brother?

His cousin...http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=659275&st=0&p=14813665entry14813665

 

[Concept Coop]

Just completed this trade:

Bush, Reggie MIA RB

Bryant, Dez DAL WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

for:

Richardson, Trent CLE RB

Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

Well done. Two best players in teh deal, in my opinion.

 

[Buck Stop]

Passed on this dynasty PPR offer. I think its helpful to post legitimate offers whether accepted or not.If other disagree I apologize in advance.

Was offered:

RG3 and Garcon

for

Peyton, Cobb, Wilson, James Jones OR Ballard

 

[DoubleG]

Non PPR 10 team dyno:

I gave: Michael Crabtree

I got: Jake Locker

A few points of reference: I am ridiculously deep at WR (Crabtree was arguably my 5th or 6th behind R. White, D. Thomas, R. Wayne, D. Jackson, D. Moore and I also have Michael Floyd) we only start 3 WR (no flex). My only QB is M. Ryan (he has Cam and Eli as well).

 

[moderated]

Just completed this trade:

Bush, Reggie MIA RB

Bryant, Dez DAL WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

for:

Richardson, Trent CLE RB

Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

Talk about selling Trent cheap. My bet is the team that dealt him has been the doormat of the league.

 

[Concept Coop]

Passed on this dynasty PPR offer. I think its helpful to post legitimate offers whether accepted or not.If other disagree I apologize in advance.Was offered:RG3 and GarconforPeyton, Cobb, Wilson, James Jones OR Ballard

You turned that down? WHY?!You are getting a 1st round startup pick. Replace the player names with start up value, and he would need to double his offer, at least.

 

[Buck Stop]

Just completed this trade:

Bush, Reggie MIA RB

Bryant, Dez DAL WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

for:

Richardson, Trent CLE RB

Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

Talk about selling Trent cheap. My bet is the team that dealt him has been the doormat of the league.

I agree. HORRIBLE trade for the team giving up Trent. Not to mention I'd rather have Nelson than old man AJ and head case Bryant!

 

[Buck Stop]

Passed on this dynasty PPR offer. I think its helpful to post legitimate offers whether accepted or not.If other disagree I apologize in advance.Was offered:RG3 and GarconforPeyton, Cobb, Wilson, James Jones OR Ballard

You turned that down? WHY?!

Just felt Peyton would give me enough this year (with Tannehill for the future) and didn't wanna move Wilson as a throw in. Roster belowManning, Vick, TannehillRichardson, Morris, Wilson, L. Miller, Ballard, Hillis, RoysterCalvin, Fitz, Cobb, Wright, James Jones, Hawkins, Sanu, RoyalHernandez, GatesPlus by moving James Jones I'd have to rely on Wright or Hawkins for a weekly start. While I love both players long term, not as confident as I am starting Jones right now.

 

[Concept Coop]

Passed on this dynasty PPR offer. I think its helpful to post legitimate offers whether accepted or not.If other disagree I apologize in advance.Was offered:RG3 and GarconforPeyton, Cobb, Wilson, James Jones OR Ballard

You turned that down? WHY?!

Just felt Peyton would give me enough this year (with Tannehill for the future) and didn't wanna move Wilson as a throw in. Roster belowManning, Vick, TannehillRichardson, Morris, Wilson, L. Miller, Ballard, Hillis, RoysterCalvin, Fitz, Cobb, Wright, James Jones, Hawkins, Sanu, RoyalHernandez, GatesPlus by moving James Jones I'd have to rely on Cobb, Wright, or Hawkins for a weekly start. While I love all 3 players long term, not as confident as I am starting Jones right now.

I know this isn't the AC forum, but I can't help it, just this once:You turned down pretty big value. Ignore the fact that Peyton is doing well this season - he is a 36 YO QB with neck concerns and a declining right arm. Wilson is not a throw in, but this deal isn't treating him as one. It is treating him as a top 12 RB, which is what you would need to add (at least!) to Peyton to get RG3, who is outscoring the vet this season, and is well over a decade younger. Again, I know this isn't the AC forum, but I would strongly suggest that you give that deal another look over. RG3 is a game changing player that doesn't come around every rookie draft; a rookie that will be valued as a 1st round start up pick the following year - again, that doesn't happen often.

 

[Buck Stop]

I sent a counter of Peyton, Wilson, James Jones, and Ballard. Ideally I'd like to keep Cobb. Still hate moving Wilson, I do think he's destined for greatness, but RG3 is a special talent too.

 

[doowain]

Ppr dynastyGaveeytonCobbWilsonBallardGot;Rg3Garçon

Passed on this dynasty PPR offer. I think its helpful to post legitimate offers whether accepted or not.If other disagree I apologize in advance.Was offered:RG3 and GarconforPeyton, Cobb, Wilson, James Jones OR Ballard

You turned that down? WHY?!You are getting a 1st round startup pick. Replace the player names with start up value, and he would need to double his offer, at least.

I'm confused. Did you do the deal or not?

 

[Papa Georgio]

Passed on this dynasty PPR offer. I think its helpful to post legitimate offers whether accepted or not.If other disagree I apologize in advance.Was offered:RG3 and GarconforPeyton, Cobb, Wilson, James Jones OR Ballard

You turned that down? WHY?!

Just felt Peyton would give me enough this year (with Tannehill for the future) and didn't wanna move Wilson as a throw in. Roster belowManning, Vick, TannehillRichardson, Morris, Wilson, L. Miller, Ballard, Hillis, RoysterCalvin, Fitz, Cobb, Wright, James Jones, Hawkins, Sanu, RoyalHernandez, GatesPlus by moving James Jones I'd have to rely on Cobb, Wright, or Hawkins for a weekly start. While I love all 3 players long term, not as confident as I am starting Jones right now.

I know this isn't the AC forum, but I can't help it, just this once:You turned down pretty big value. Ignore the fact that Peyton is doing well this season - he is a 36 YO QB with neck concerns and a declining right arm. Wilson is not a throw in, but this deal isn't treating him as one. It is treating him as a top 12 RB, which is what you would need to add (at least!) to Peyton to get RG3, who is outscoring the vet this season, and is well over a decade younger. Again, I know this isn't the AC forum, but I would strongly suggest that you give that deal another look over. RG3 is a game changing player that doesn't come around every rookie draft; a rookie that will be valued as a 1st round start up pick the following year - again, that doesn't happen often.

I'm not sure I would do that deal myself. I would want someone besides Garcon personally.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Just completed this trade:

Bush, Reggie MIA RB

Bryant, Dez DAL WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

for:

Richardson, Trent CLE RB

Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

Well done. Two best players in teh deal, in my opinion.

Depends on which players you mean. I get the Trent side of that deal.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Just completed this trade:

Bush, Reggie MIA RB

Bryant, Dez DAL WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

for:

Richardson, Trent CLE RB

Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

Talk about selling Trent cheap. My bet is the team that dealt him has been the doormat of the league.

The guys is atop his division. I think he really likes trades because owners in my league so rarely trade.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Just completed this trade:

Bush, Reggie MIA RB

Bryant, Dez DAL WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

for:

Richardson, Trent CLE RB

Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

Talk about selling Trent cheap. My bet is the team that dealt him has been the doormat of the league.

I agree. HORRIBLE trade for the team giving up Trent. Not to mention I'd rather have Nelson than old man AJ and head case Bryant!

Nelson's good, but he's no Andre Johnson.

 

[Concept Coop]

Depends on which players you mean. I get the Trent side of that deal.

He has been healthier, and more productive than AJ recently. Beyond that, he is much younger. I would take Nelson over AJ without much thought in a dynasty format.

 

[Tau837]

Passed on this dynasty PPR offer. I think its helpful to post legitimate offers whether accepted or not.If other disagree I apologize in advance.Was offered:RG3 and GarconforPeyton, Cobb, Wilson, James Jones OR Ballard

You turned that down? WHY?!

Just felt Peyton would give me enough this year (with Tannehill for the future) and didn't wanna move Wilson as a throw in. Roster belowManning, Vick, TannehillRichardson, Morris, Wilson, L. Miller, Ballard, Hillis, RoysterCalvin, Fitz, Cobb, Wright, James Jones, Hawkins, Sanu, RoyalHernandez, GatesPlus by moving James Jones I'd have to rely on Cobb, Wright, or Hawkins for a weekly start. While I love all 3 players long term, not as confident as I am starting Jones right now.

I know this isn't the AC forum, but I can't help it, just this once:You turned down pretty big value. Ignore the fact that Peyton is doing well this season - he is a 36 YO QB with neck concerns and a declining right arm. Wilson is not a throw in, but this deal isn't treating him as one. It is treating him as a top 12 RB, which is what you would need to add (at least!) to Peyton to get RG3, who is outscoring the vet this season, and is well over a decade younger. Again, I know this isn't the AC forum, but I would strongly suggest that you give that deal another look over. RG3 is a game changing player that doesn't come around every rookie draft; a rookie that will be valued as a 1st round start up pick the following year - again, that doesn't happen often.

Accepting that trade is a nobrainer IMO. In addition to what Coop posted, you get some value out of clearing two roster spots you can use for other prospects.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Depends on which players you mean. I get the Trent side of that deal.

He has been healthier, and more productive than AJ recently. Beyond that, he is much younger. I would take Nelson over AJ without much thought in a dynasty format.

I concur. Trent was the guy I wanted, but it's nice to get Jordy as well. I think Trent is going to finish with monster numbers.

 

[doowain]

12 Team PPR

Team A got:

CJ Spiller

Golden Tate

Team B got:

Jonathan Stewart

Greg Jennings

 

[Andrew74]

12 team, 0.5 PPR

TEAM A gives: Greg Jennings/2014 1st (would forecast bottom half)

TEAM B gives: 2013 2nd (high pick, 1-4 team)/ 2014 pick (prob mid round at worst)

 

[Buck Stop]

12 Team PPRTeam A got:CJ SpillerGolden TateTeam B got:Jonathan StewartGreg Jennings

Great trade for you, even if Jennings does bounce back full strength in a few weeks. Spiller next year is going to be NASTY. Of course, if D-WIll and Stewart EVER get separated, we might say the same thing. But I think the chances are greater of Spiller getting 70% of the carries next year than the Panthers coming to their senses and moving one of their RBs.

 

[bengalbuck]

12 team, 0.5 PPRTEAM A gives: Greg Jennings/2014 1st (would forecast bottom half)TEAM B gives: 2013 2nd (high pick, 1-4 team)/ 2014 pick (prob mid round at worst)

I don't understand. Is a player missing here?

 

[EBF]

12 Team PPRTeam A got:CJ SpillerGolden TateTeam B got:Jonathan StewartGreg Jennings

Great trade for you, even if Jennings does bounce back full strength in a few weeks. Spiller next year is going to be NASTY. Of course, if D-WIll and Stewart EVER get separated, we might say the same thing. But I think the chances are greater of Spiller getting 70% of the carries next year than the Panthers coming to their senses and moving one of their RBs.

Spiller is a tough guy to gauge. He obviously has explosive skills, but he also has a slight frame and hasn't been trusted with feature back touches yet. I like his upside, but I think Stewart has just as much potential (and they're about the same age). I'd probably rather have Spiller because I think he has more instant boom potential. I could see Stewart catching up with him over the next 3-4 years though. Williams is 4 years older than Stewart and simply can't play forever. Jennings >> Tate for me.

 

[EBF]

Just completed this trade:

Bush, Reggie MIA RB

Bryant, Dez DAL WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

for:

Richardson, Trent CLE RB

Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

I like that one for you. Trent is one of the best players to have right now. I have him in a couple leagues and probably wouldn't trade him for anyone. I do like Dez Bryant though and I think he's underrated. I have him right up there behind Calvin/Green/Demaryius/Julio as the next best combination of youth/talent.

 

[Andrew74]

Another trade today with Greg Jennings. 12 team, no PPR

Team A gives: MJD/Jennings/3rd

Team B gives: Harvin/2nd

 

[doowain]

12 Team PPRTeam A got:CJ SpillerGolden TateTeam B got:Jonathan StewartGreg Jennings

Great trade for you, even if Jennings does bounce back full strength in a few weeks. Spiller next year is going to be NASTY. Of course, if D-WIll and Stewart EVER get separated, we might say the same thing. But I think the chances are greater of Spiller getting 70% of the carries next year than the Panthers coming to their senses and moving one of their RBs.

Spiller is a tough guy to gauge. He obviously has explosive skills, but he also has a slight frame and hasn't been trusted with feature back touches yet. I like his upside, but I think Stewart has just as much potential (and they're about the same age). I'd probably rather have Spiller because I think he has more instant boom potential. I could see Stewart catching up with him over the next 3-4 years though. Williams is 4 years older than Stewart and simply can't play forever. Jennings >> Tate for me.

Don't think he's tough to gauge at all. Quite the opposite actually.

 

[Concept Coop]

Don't think he's tough to gauge at all. Quite the opposite actually.

Mabye I'm a coward, but I am not secure in my gauge of him either.

 

[EBF]

12 Team PPRTeam A got:CJ SpillerGolden TateTeam B got:Jonathan StewartGreg Jennings

Great trade for you, even if Jennings does bounce back full strength in a few weeks. Spiller next year is going to be NASTY. Of course, if D-WIll and Stewart EVER get separated, we might say the same thing. But I think the chances are greater of Spiller getting 70% of the carries next year than the Panthers coming to their senses and moving one of their RBs.

Spiller is a tough guy to gauge. He obviously has explosive skills, but he also has a slight frame and hasn't been trusted with feature back touches yet. I like his upside, but I think Stewart has just as much potential (and they're about the same age). I'd probably rather have Spiller because I think he has more instant boom potential. I could see Stewart catching up with him over the next 3-4 years though. Williams is 4 years older than Stewart and simply can't play forever. Jennings >> Tate for me.

Don't think he's tough to gauge at all. Quite the opposite actually.

You're right. He's an explosive committee back who can't run inside and gets a hangnail every time he takes a big hit.

 

[doowain]

12 Team PPRTeam A got:CJ SpillerGolden TateTeam B got:Jonathan StewartGreg Jennings

Great trade for you, even if Jennings does bounce back full strength in a few weeks. Spiller next year is going to be NASTY. Of course, if D-WIll and Stewart EVER get separated, we might say the same thing. But I think the chances are greater of Spiller getting 70% of the carries next year than the Panthers coming to their senses and moving one of their RBs.

Spiller is a tough guy to gauge. He obviously has explosive skills, but he also has a slight frame and hasn't been trusted with feature back touches yet. I like his upside, but I think Stewart has just as much potential (and they're about the same age). I'd probably rather have Spiller because I think he has more instant boom potential. I could see Stewart catching up with him over the next 3-4 years though. Williams is 4 years older than Stewart and simply can't play forever. Jennings >> Tate for me.

Don't think he's tough to gauge at all. Quite the opposite actually.

You're right. He's an explosive committee back who can't run inside and gets a hangnail every time he takes a big hit.

We are talking about Spiller. Not Stewart. Try to stay on topic.

 

[EBF]

Well I think the deal would only be a win if you also got Binns.

 

[doowain]

Well I think the deal would only be a win if you also got Binns.

You mean the STARTING WR for the Bengals? Who has actually looked pretty good?I tried to counter to include Jarret Dillard but couldn't find him in MFLs system.

 

[jeter23]

12 team auction/PPR league

A gave: Gonzalez

B gave: Pettigrew/2014 2nd rounder (picks = rookie draft $$)

 

[jdoggydogg]

Just completed this trade:

Bush, Reggie MIA RB

Bryant, Dez DAL WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

for:

Richardson, Trent CLE RB

Nelson, Jordy GBP WR

I like that one for you. Trent is one of the best players to have right now. I have him in a couple leagues and probably wouldn't trade him for anyone. I do like Dez Bryant though and I think he's underrated. I have him right up there behind Calvin/Green/Demaryius/Julio as the next best combination of youth/talent.

There's no denying Dez's talent. The question is: can he take it to the next level on a team with a lot of receiver options with a QB that's good at spreading the ball around? I wasn't so much down on Dez and Andre as I was really wanting Trent.

 

[moderated]

12 Team PPRTeam A got:CJ SpillerGolden TateTeam B got:Jonathan StewartGreg Jennings

Great trade for you, even if Jennings does bounce back full strength in a few weeks. Spiller next year is going to be NASTY. Of course, if D-WIll and Stewart EVER get separated, we might say the same thing. But I think the chances are greater of Spiller getting 70% of the carries next year than the Panthers coming to their senses and moving one of their RBs.

Spiller is a tough guy to gauge. He obviously has explosive skills, but he also has a slight frame and hasn't been trusted with feature back touches yet. I like his upside, but I think Stewart has just as much potential (and they're about the same age). I'd probably rather have Spiller because I think he has more instant boom potential. I could see Stewart catching up with him over the next 3-4 years though. Williams is 4 years older than Stewart and simply can't play forever. Jennings >> Tate for me.

Don't think he's tough to gauge at all. Quite the opposite actually.

You're right. He's an explosive committee back who can't run inside and gets a hangnail every time he takes a big hit.

You mean the guy who hasn't missed a game and has never had a significant injury?

 

[Chazzhawk]

2 deals I was apart of in two different leagues

I give: Quizz Rodgers

I get : Ryan Broyles and a 2013 4th

I give: Fitzpatrick, Bolden (N.E.), Ridley and a 1st

I get: Peyton Manning, Bradshaw, and Ty Hilton

Would love any feedback good or bad.

 

[Chazzhawk]

12 team auction/PPR leagueA gave: GonzalezB gave: Pettigrew/2014 2nd rounder (picks = rookie draft $$)

I like the Gonzo side, a second rounder is ok, but Pettigrew sucks and Gonzo is a freak of nature he might play 3 or 4 more years.

 

[Chazzhawk]

Another trade today with Greg Jennings. 12 team, no PPRTeam A gives: MJD/Jennings/3rdTeam B gives: Harvin/2nd

Seems a lot to pay for Harvin. I do think he is top 5 but still seems like a lot

 

[Chazzhawk]

12 Team PPRTeam A got:CJ SpillerGolden TateTeam B got:Jonathan StewartGreg Jennings

Probably pretty even but I like the team getting Spiller, but I will admit I have a man crush on him

 

[moderated]

2 deals I was apart of in two different leaguesI give: Fitzpatrick, Bolden (N.E.), Ridley and a 1stI get: Peyton Manning, Bradshaw, and Ty HiltonWould love any feedback good or bad.

You got destroyed on this one.Ridley/bolden >>> BradshawFuture 1st >= manning.Fitzpatrick and Hilton are basically worthless so they are irrelevant.

 

[Chazzhawk]

Non PPR 10 team dyno:I gave: Michael Crabtree I got: Jake LockerA few points of reference: I am ridiculously deep at WR (Crabtree was arguably my 5th or 6th behind R. White, D. Thomas, R. Wayne, D. Jackson, D. Moore and I also have Michael Floyd) we only start 3 WR (no flex). My only QB is M. Ryan (he has Cam and Eli as well).

I have a feeling you will regret this. Crabtree seems to have figured it out.

 

[Chazzhawk]

2 deals I was apart of in two different leaguesI give: Fitzpatrick, Bolden (N.E.), Ridley and a 1stI get: Peyton Manning, Bradshaw, and Ty HiltonWould love any feedback good or bad.

You got destroyed on this one.Ridley/bolden >>> BradshawFuture 1st >= manning.Fitzpatrick and Hilton are basically worthless so they are irrelevant.

It will be a late first in 2013 I should have said that and I am weak at quarterback. Running backs I have Lynch, Spiller, Fred Jackson and Law Firm

 

[EBF]

2 deals I was apart of in two different leaguesI give: Quizz RodgersI get : Ryan Broyles and a 2013 4thI give: Fitzpatrick, Bolden (N.E.), Ridley and a 1stI get: Peyton Manning, Bradshaw, and Ty HiltonWould love any feedback good or bad.

Broyles deal seems okay since Rodgers isn't showing much. Not a fan of the Ridley trade. I feel like he's the most valuable player in the deal. The 1st rounder is just insult to injury.

 

[EBF]

Non PPR 10 team dyno:I gave: Michael Crabtree I got: Jake LockerA few points of reference: I am ridiculously deep at WR (Crabtree was arguably my 5th or 6th behind R. White, D. Thomas, R. Wayne, D. Jackson, D. Moore and I also have Michael Floyd) we only start 3 WR (no flex). My only QB is M. Ryan (he has Cam and Eli as well).

I have a feeling you will regret this. Crabtree seems to have figured it out.

I don't think Crab has much value in that format, so I think it made some sense to move him, but I'm not much of a Jake Locker fan.

 

[Chazzhawk]

Non PPR 10 team dyno:I gave: Michael Crabtree I got: Jake LockerA few points of reference: I am ridiculously deep at WR (Crabtree was arguably my 5th or 6th behind R. White, D. Thomas, R. Wayne, D. Jackson, D. Moore and I also have Michael Floyd) we only start 3 WR (no flex). My only QB is M. Ryan (he has Cam and Eli as well).

I have a feeling you will regret this. Crabtree seems to have figured it out.

I don't think Crab has much value in that format, so I think it made some sense to move him, but I'm not much of a Jake Locker fan.

That is my reasoning I am not fan of Locker and I am starting to like Crabtree

 

[Chazzhawk]

2 deals I was apart of in two different leaguesI give: Quizz RodgersI get : Ryan Broyles and a 2013 4thI give: Fitzpatrick, Bolden (N.E.), Ridley and a 1stI get: Peyton Manning, Bradshaw, and Ty HiltonWould love any feedback good or bad.

Broyles deal seems okay since Rodgers isn't showing much. Not a fan of the Ridley trade. I feel like he's the most valuable player in the deal. The 1st rounder is just insult to injury.

I am a big Pats fan and just think that Ridley is a good sell right now.

 

[doowain]

12 Team PPR

Team A got:

CJ Spiller

Golden Tate

Team B got:

Jonathan Stewart

Greg Jennings

Great trade for you, even if Jennings does bounce back full strength in a few weeks. Spiller next year is going to be NASTY. Of course, if D-WIll and Stewart EVER get separated, we might say the same thing. But I think the chances are greater of Spiller getting 70% of the carries next year than the Panthers coming to their senses and moving one of their RBs.

Spiller is a tough guy to gauge. He obviously has explosive skills, but he also has a slight frame and hasn't been trusted with feature back touches yet. I like his upside, but I think Stewart has just as much potential (and they're about the same age). I'd probably rather have Spiller because I think he has more instant boom potential. I could see Stewart catching up with him over the next 3-4 years though. Williams is 4 years older than Stewart and simply can't play forever. Jennings >> Tate for me.

Don't think he's tough to gauge at all. Quite the opposite actually.

You're right. He's an explosive committee back who can't run inside and gets a hangnail every time he takes a big hit.

You mean the guy who hasn't missed a game and has never had a significant injury?

I know right?And can apparently run between the tackles.

Everything he typed was a regurgitation of everything naysayers said two years ago. Maybe watch some games and test those theories bud.

 

[EBF]

12 Team PPRTeam A got:CJ SpillerGolden TateTeam B got:Jonathan StewartGreg Jennings

Great trade for you, even if Jennings does bounce back full strength in a few weeks. Spiller next year is going to be NASTY. Of course, if D-WIll and Stewart EVER get separated, we might say the same thing. But I think the chances are greater of Spiller getting 70% of the carries next year than the Panthers coming to their senses and moving one of their RBs.

Spiller is a tough guy to gauge. He obviously has explosive skills, but he also has a slight frame and hasn't been trusted with feature back touches yet. I like his upside, but I think Stewart has just as much potential (and they're about the same age). I'd probably rather have Spiller because I think he has more instant boom potential. I could see Stewart catching up with him over the next 3-4 years though. Williams is 4 years older than Stewart and simply can't play forever. Jennings >> Tate for me.

Don't think he's tough to gauge at all. Quite the opposite actually.

You're right. He's an explosive committee back who can't run inside and gets a hangnail every time he takes a big hit.

You mean the guy who hasn't missed a game and has never had a significant injury?

I mean the 196 pound guy who got knocked out of the game a couple weeks ago when it looked like he had finally turned the corner. You know, Fred Jackson's backup.

 

[doowain]

12 Team PPRTeam A got:CJ SpillerGolden TateTeam B got:Jonathan StewartGreg Jennings

Great trade for you, even if Jennings does bounce back full strength in a few weeks. Spiller next year is going to be NASTY. Of course, if D-WIll and Stewart EVER get separated, we might say the same thing. But I think the chances are greater of Spiller getting 70% of the carries next year than the Panthers coming to their senses and moving one of their RBs.

Spiller is a tough guy to gauge. He obviously has explosive skills, but he also has a slight frame and hasn't been trusted with feature back touches yet. I like his upside, but I think Stewart has just as much potential (and they're about the same age). I'd probably rather have Spiller because I think he has more instant boom potential. I could see Stewart catching up with him over the next 3-4 years though. Williams is 4 years older than Stewart and simply can't play forever. Jennings >> Tate for me.

Don't think he's tough to gauge at all. Quite the opposite actually.

You're right. He's an explosive committee back who can't run inside and gets a hangnail every time he takes a big hit.

You mean the guy who hasn't missed a game and has never had a significant injury?

I mean the 196 pound guy who got knocked out of the game a couple weeks ago when it looked like he had finally turned the corner. You know, Fred Jackson's backup.

We're still waiting on Jonathan Stewart to find the corner. Maybe you should send him directions.

 

[EBF]

Yo momma can point him towards the corner.

 

[doowain]

Yo momma can point him towards the corner.

Weak. And un-clever.The fact remains....Spiller has shown more in the past year than Stewart has. Yet you question Spiller bc he's "196 lbs". 196lbs of "never missed a college or pro game".