*** 2012 Official Philadelphia Eagles Post Mortem Thread *** (2 Viewers)

[Bigboy10182000]

Vick is essentially on a one year deal and not getting any younger. Sooner or later they'll have to think ahead...if they think RGIII is a star they could very well go get him...they have enough to do so.

 

[Insein]

Eagles meet with Griffin:

Please make this happen at all costs.

Keep dreaming. Just due diligence.

Would it shock you though? Vick would be a FA after next season. They have 2 second round picks this year as well as tradable guys like Jackson and Samuel. I'm not saying we will or will not do this but I wouldn't be shocked if they did.

It absolutely would. Here's why. They don't have near enough pick value to get to the 2nd spot. Sure they have Desean to offer and while St. Louis may covet that, they could easily have Blackmon at 4th or 6th should Cleveland or Washington choose to deal. They would get higher pick value in return from those teams though making any package they put together much more enticing. The 2nd reason is that if this truly is Andy's last year, why would he waste the pick on a QB that won't play for him this season? Andy presumably would want to get people that can help him get as far as he can this year to get an extension. As tantalizing as it would be to get a guy like RG3 for Andy's system, he wouldn't pay dividends this year.

Third reason is why would the front office make that move if Andy would be a lame duck? If they drop Andy after a bad year, then a new coach would have to sign off on RG3 as their franchise QB to come here. He wouldn't be the new coach's guy though. So dissention may exist before the new coach ever picked up a clipboard.

The only scenario I see where he gets picked is if Andy is then given an understanding that he will need another 2-3 seasons to develop him. That would mean both he and the front office signed off on him and have already agreed that no matter what happens this year, Andy would be back for at least a few more seasons to see how RG3 comes along. That and also throwing in a #### ton of picks. Two future 1st rounders may be likely.

So yea, I'd be extremely shocked if it happened. It would be very un-Eagles-like. At least for this regime.

 

[Zimm]

Eagles meeting with Kuechly tonight.....THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bigboy10182000]

So D-Jax, Samuel, 15 overall and one of the two's wouldnt be enough? If you are STL...why wouldnt you do that?

 

[Insein]

So D-Jax, Samuel, 15 overall and one of the two's wouldnt be enough? If you are STL...why wouldnt you do that?

When Cleveland or Washington will give you this year's 1st, next year's 1st and 2014's 1st plus some late rounders, why would you take a 31 year old overpaid corner and a diva WR when you can get all those picks and Blackmon? Falcons traded two 1st's, a 2nd and two 4th's just to get 6th overall last year for Julio Jones. We're talking the 2nd pick and a possible franchise QB on the line. That is not going for 2 players a 1st round swap and a 2nd.

 

[Zimm]

So D-Jax, Samuel, 15 overall and one of the two's wouldnt be enough? If you are STL...why wouldnt you do that?

When Cleveland or Washington will give you this year's 1st, next year's 1st and 2014's 1st plus some late rounders, why would you take a 31 year old overpaid corner and a diva WR when you can get all those picks and Blackmon? Falcons traded two 1st's, a 2nd and two 4th's just to get 6th overall last year for Julio Jones. We're talking the 2nd pick and a possible franchise QB on the line. That is not going for 2 players a 1st round swap and a 2nd.

 

[scratcher]

Eagles meet with Griffin:

Please make this happen at all costs.

Keep dreaming. Just due diligence.

Would it shock you though? Vick would be a FA after next season. They have 2 second round picks this year as well as tradable guys like Jackson and Samuel. I'm not saying we will or will not do this but I wouldn't be shocked if they did.

I think we'll have to mortgage our drafts for the next two years to have a shot at hte #2 pick.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

So D-Jax, Samuel, 15 overall and one of the two's wouldnt be enough? If you are STL...why wouldnt you do that?

When Cleveland or Washington will give you this year's 1st, next year's 1st and 2014's 1st plus some late rounders, why would you take a 31 year old overpaid corner and a diva WR when you can get all those picks and Blackmon? Falcons traded two 1st's, a 2nd and two 4th's just to get 6th overall last year for Julio Jones. We're talking the 2nd pick and a possible franchise QB on the line. That is not going for 2 players a 1st round swap and a 2nd.

We really have no clue what Cleveland or Washington would part with so I won't touch that part. As far as Atlanta goes (just going off of memory here) but didn't they go up like 20+ spots to get Jones? That would play a large part in what it took to move up. I'm not saying I hope they do or even of they will but I do NOT think we'd have to give up 3 first round picks to move up 13 spots. Samuel was a pro-bowl CB just a couple years ago before the OL coach got a hold of him and could always restructure. If D-Jax were to get dealt he would get a new deal too and would be happy. Jackson and Samuel would be sure starters for them and they would still have ammo to go back up.Can you tell it's February?

 

[scratcher]

Eagles meet with Griffin:

Please make this happen at all costs.

Keep dreaming. Just due diligence.

Would it shock you though? Vick would be a FA after next season. They have 2 second round picks this year as well as tradable guys like Jackson and Samuel. I'm not saying we will or will not do this but I wouldn't be shocked if they did.

The 2nd reason is that if this truly is Andy's last year, why would he waste the pick on a QB that won't play for him this season? Andy presumably would want to get people that can help him get as far as he can this year to get an extension. As tantalizing as it would be to get a guy like RG3 for Andy's system, he wouldn't pay dividends this year.

 

[Jason Wood]

Eagles meet with Griffin:

Please make this happen at all costs.

Keep dreaming. Just due diligence.

Would it shock you though? Vick would be a FA after next season. They have 2 second round picks this year as well as tradable guys like Jackson and Samuel. I'm not saying we will or will not do this but I wouldn't be shocked if they did.

Yes. It would shock me. For two reasons.One, I don't think we have enough to move up to 2.

Two, Lurie has made it crystal clear that Reid has this year to make a HUGE playoff run or the entire regime is getting pushed out. Not the year to mortgage your draft to draft a young prospect at QB.

 

[Insein]

So D-Jax, Samuel, 15 overall and one of the two's wouldnt be enough? If you are STL...why wouldnt you do that?

When Cleveland or Washington will give you this year's 1st, next year's 1st and 2014's 1st plus some late rounders, why would you take a 31 year old overpaid corner and a diva WR when you can get all those picks and Blackmon? Falcons traded two 1st's, a 2nd and two 4th's just to get 6th overall last year for Julio Jones. We're talking the 2nd pick and a possible franchise QB on the line. That is not going for 2 players a 1st round swap and a 2nd.

We really have no clue what Cleveland or Washington would part with so I won't touch that part. As far as Atlanta goes (just going off of memory here) but didn't they go up like 20+ spots to get Jones? That would play a large part in what it took to move up. I'm not saying I hope they do or even of they will but I do NOT think we'd have to give up 3 first round picks to move up 13 spots. Samuel was a pro-bowl CB just a couple years ago before the OL coach got a hold of him and could always restructure. If D-Jax were to get dealt he would get a new deal too and would be happy. Jackson and Samuel would be sure starters for them and they would still have ammo to go back up.Can you tell it's February?

Its not how far you move up. Its how much the spot is worth. Here's a very general chart on what GMs use for a valuing system. http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.phpAs you can see, the 2nd pick is worth 1000 pts more than the 6th pick. Meaning a team would have to give up that much more to get that spot. Now not every team follows this to the letter but it gives you an idea of how a GM looks at their picks. St. Louis will want a Kings Ransom for the 2nd pick. Its going to take at least three 1st's (2012, 13, 14) and some extra late rounders to get that spot at least. Carson Palmer, drafted in 2003, was traded for two first rounders this past season. That's a 9th year QB going for two 1st's. You can say that's just the Raiders being dumb but why then would the Rams take less for a possible rookie franchise QB when Oakland set a precedent on what an aging franchise QB is worth? The point is, unless the Eagles give up a #### ton of picks over the next 3 drafts, they ain't getting RG3.

 

[Jason Wood]

So D-Jax, Samuel, 15 overall and one of the two's wouldnt be enough? If you are STL...why wouldnt you do that?

When Cleveland or Washington will give you this year's 1st, next year's 1st and 2014's 1st plus some late rounders, why would you take a 31 year old overpaid corner and a diva WR when you can get all those picks and Blackmon? Falcons traded two 1st's, a 2nd and two 4th's just to get 6th overall last year for Julio Jones. We're talking the 2nd pick and a possible franchise QB on the line. That is not going for 2 players a 1st round swap and a 2nd.

We really have no clue what Cleveland or Washington would part with so I won't touch that part. As far as Atlanta goes (just going off of memory here) but didn't they go up like 20+ spots to get Jones? That would play a large part in what it took to move up. I'm not saying I hope they do or even of they will but I do NOT think we'd have to give up 3 first round picks to move up 13 spots. Samuel was a pro-bowl CB just a couple years ago before the OL coach got a hold of him and could always restructure. If D-Jax were to get dealt he would get a new deal too and would be happy. Jackson and Samuel would be sure starters for them and they would still have ammo to go back up.Can you tell it's February?

Its not how far you move up. Its how much the spot is worth. Here's a very general chart on what GMs use for a valuing system. http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.phpAs you can see, the 2nd pick is worth 1000 pts more than the 6th pick. Meaning a team would have to give up that much more to get that spot. Now not every team follows this to the letter but it gives you an idea of how a GM looks at their picks. St. Louis will want a Kings Ransom for the 2nd pick. Its going to take at least three 1st's (2012, 13, 14) and some extra late rounders to get that spot at least. Carson Palmer, drafted in 2003, was traded for two first rounders this past season. That's a 9th year QB going for two 1st's. You can say that's just the Raiders being dumb but why then would the Rams take less for a possible rookie franchise QB when Oakland set a precedent on what an aging franchise QB is worth? The point is, unless the Eagles give up a #### ton of picks over the next 3 drafts, they ain't getting RG3.

That chart is somewhat irrelevant in the new CBA given the much tighter salary cap restrictions on rookies. It's widely expected we'll see significantly more movement in the early rounds and near the top, in particular, in future years as a result of the cost being so much less.

 

[Insein]

So D-Jax, Samuel, 15 overall and one of the two's wouldnt be enough? If you are STL...why wouldnt you do that?

When Cleveland or Washington will give you this year's 1st, next year's 1st and 2014's 1st plus some late rounders, why would you take a 31 year old overpaid corner and a diva WR when you can get all those picks and Blackmon? Falcons traded two 1st's, a 2nd and two 4th's just to get 6th overall last year for Julio Jones. We're talking the 2nd pick and a possible franchise QB on the line. That is not going for 2 players a 1st round swap and a 2nd.

We really have no clue what Cleveland or Washington would part with so I won't touch that part. As far as Atlanta goes (just going off of memory here) but didn't they go up like 20+ spots to get Jones? That would play a large part in what it took to move up. I'm not saying I hope they do or even of they will but I do NOT think we'd have to give up 3 first round picks to move up 13 spots. Samuel was a pro-bowl CB just a couple years ago before the OL coach got a hold of him and could always restructure. If D-Jax were to get dealt he would get a new deal too and would be happy. Jackson and Samuel would be sure starters for them and they would still have ammo to go back up.Can you tell it's February?

Its not how far you move up. Its how much the spot is worth. Here's a very general chart on what GMs use for a valuing system. http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.phpAs you can see, the 2nd pick is worth 1000 pts more than the 6th pick. Meaning a team would have to give up that much more to get that spot. Now not every team follows this to the letter but it gives you an idea of how a GM looks at their picks. St. Louis will want a Kings Ransom for the 2nd pick. Its going to take at least three 1st's (2012, 13, 14) and some extra late rounders to get that spot at least. Carson Palmer, drafted in 2003, was traded for two first rounders this past season. That's a 9th year QB going for two 1st's. You can say that's just the Raiders being dumb but why then would the Rams take less for a possible rookie franchise QB when Oakland set a precedent on what an aging franchise QB is worth? The point is, unless the Eagles give up a #### ton of picks over the next 3 drafts, they ain't getting RG3.

That chart is somewhat irrelevant in the new CBA given the much tighter salary cap restrictions on rookies. It's widely expected we'll see significantly more movement in the early rounds and near the top, in particular, in future years as a result of the cost being so much less.

This is true but I feel that with the salary structured the way it is, it only makes the top spots that much more valuable.

 

[JetMaxx]

1. Lurie wasn't "crystal clear" on Reid. Lurie starts his press conference talking "unacceptable" then brings the guy back. He merely drew an imaginary line in the sand to appease the fans. Reid has made the man $MILLIONS$++++. Reid isn't going anywhere without calling it himself.

2. Lurie/Banner would love the public fanfare that would accompany the transition from bad boy Vick to poster boy Griffin.

3. This Reid-led regime with Roseman as a front has shown in the past a clear willingness to make a bold move to trade up. A clear, without question character clean, franchise type QB that fits the mold of previous Eagles' QBs would certainly justify whatever it would take to move from 15 to 2.

4. There is no way in #### that a team will trade 3 #1's plus for a trade up. Al Davis is no longer around so the unrealistic trade analogy is out the window. The Rams would be nuts to not take the #15 this year, a #2 this year, a #1 next year and DJax. No way 2014 gets involved. As an Eagle's fan, I'd be thrilled with that trade.

 

[Jason Wood]

1. Lurie wasn't "crystal clear" on Reid. Lurie starts his press conference talking "unacceptable" then brings the guy back. He merely drew an imaginary line in the sand to appease the fans. Reid has made the man $MILLIONS$++++. Reid isn't going anywhere without calling it himself. 2. Lurie/Banner would love the public fanfare that would accompany the transition from bad boy Vick to poster boy Griffin. 3. This Reid-led regime with Roseman as a front has shown in the past a clear willingness to make a bold move to trade up. A clear, without question character clean, franchise type QB that fits the mold of previous Eagles' QBs would certainly justify whatever it would take to move from 15 to 2.4. There is no way in #### that a team will trade 3 #1's plus for a trade up. Al Davis is no longer around so the unrealistic trade analogy is out the window. The Rams would be nuts to not take the #15 this year, a #2 this year, a #1 next year and DJax. No way 2014 gets involved. As an Eagle's fan, I'd be thrilled with that trade.

You would be thrilled with giving up two #1, a #2 and a young, star playmaker for an unproven rookie QB? Yet you're critical of virtually every move this franchise makes?

 

[JetMaxx]

While this regime gives me little in the way of hope, I feel justified to hope for an epiphany based somewhat on past results. Your young, star playmaker is gone...DH said as much. I'd rather use that chip and other valuables to garner a REAL franchise QB.

 

[Insein]

People must think the Rams GM is a complete f'n moron to take these deals. A trade will happen and its going to be a blockbuster. Just don't have a heart attack if its not the Eagles getting the 2nd pick for Proverbial chump change.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

People must think the Rams GM is a complete f'n moron to take these deals. A trade will happen and its going to be a blockbuster. Just don't have a heart attack if its not the Eagles getting the 2nd pick for Proverbial chump change.

Seriously? LolWhat do you think D-Jax and Samuel are worth draft pick wise? 2 & 3? I guess I just figured a team like the Rams would value them pretty much....especially over draft picks.

 

[Terpman22]

Just a couple of things.

Even if this is "Super Bowl or Bust" year(for like the 7th time or something..), Lurie/Banner and Roseman are no fools. RG3 is an all world talent. If they have him graded properly, it would be a coup to get him for the sake of not allowing the Redskins to have him in the first place. Obviously, whether Manning ends up in DC or not will affect this. But Vick has not finished every game he has started as an Eagle in any season yet, and has missed multiple games in his only two seasons as a starter. Guys like this do NOT come along often and the FO knows that.

It sure sounds like the FO is setting things up to trade Desean. They are getting that out there early already. We just don't know what Desean is asking. If he is looking for 20 mil guaranteed or something, then he is gone. The Rams are an obvious fit, especially with the track they have there in St Louis. Of course, if we sign VJax or someone of the like, then Desean is long gone for sure.

How many more years do we really expect Vick to be around? 2 tops I would guess, unless he pulls off the miracle SB win this year somehow. But even still, he will be 34-35 in 2 years anyway, while RG3 will be 23-25. I would be OK trading Desean, the 15 and next year's 1 for RG3 and change, PROVIDED we have a talented FA WR signed to replace him.

 

[Insein]

People must think the Rams GM is a complete f'n moron to take these deals. A trade will happen and its going to be a blockbuster. Just don't have a heart attack if its not the Eagles getting the 2nd pick for Proverbial chump change.

Seriously? LolWhat do you think D-Jax and Samuel are worth draft pick wise? 2 & 3? I guess I just figured a team like the Rams would value them pretty much....especially over draft picks.

Again, if someone were offering the Eagles a 31yo Corner and a 5'11" 190lb WR with 3 concussions and a diva attitude along with a 1st round swap and a 2nd round pick for the #2 pick overall which would land you a potential franchise QB, would we take it or would we laugh in that GM's face?GM's value picks over players because they can get the guys they want with picks. Players have to be exceptional in order for another GM to bite on giving away a top draft pick. I don't think Desean and Asante are exceptional. They are good with a lot of baggage.

 

[CentralPA]

Really don't see how they can trade up to 2. Even with Jackson, Samuel, a couple ones and our extra 2, I think Cleveland and Wasington have more enticing offers that benefit St. Louis. They could still draft Blackmon or maybe even Kalil if they moved a few spaces down. Just a real long shot on something like this happening but i'd love to have RG3 in Eagles green.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

People must think the Rams GM is a complete f'n moron to take these deals. A trade will happen and its going to be a blockbuster. Just don't have a heart attack if its not the Eagles getting the 2nd pick for Proverbial chump change.

Seriously? LolWhat do you think D-Jax and Samuel are worth draft pick wise? 2 & 3? I guess I just figured a team like the Rams would value them pretty much....especially over draft picks.

Again, if someone were offering the Eagles a 31yo 4 time pro-bowl (2007-2010)Corner and a 25yo 5'11" 190lb WR with 3 concussions and a diva attitude (removed because you just described 90% of the WR's in football) to go along with your franshise QB along with a 1st round swap and a 2nd round pick for the #2 pick overall which would land you a potential franchise QB, (not much relevance since the Rams have one) would we take it or would we laugh in that GM's face?GM's value picks over players because they can get the guys they want with picks. Players have to be exceptional in order for another GM to bite on giving away a top draft pick. I don't think Desean and Asante are exceptional. They are good with a lot of baggage.

I get what you're saying...

Now would that change if it was worded like the above? Maybe if they offered next years 1 as well?

Like I said before, I am not hoping this happens but if you go back just one season then Asante and D-Jax are considered exceptional. An OL coach coming in and a contract issue held them up...both wouldnt be the case if they were dealt.

They would move back 13 spots and could still land 3 potential starters...2 are NFL proven. I can see it being rejected but hardly laughed at.

 

[Insein]

People must think the Rams GM is a complete f'n moron to take these deals. A trade will happen and its going to be a blockbuster. Just don't have a heart attack if its not the Eagles getting the 2nd pick for Proverbial chump change.

Seriously? LolWhat do you think D-Jax and Samuel are worth draft pick wise? 2 & 3? I guess I just figured a team like the Rams would value them pretty much....especially over draft picks.

Again, if someone were offering the Eagles a 31yo 4 time pro-bowl (2007-2010)Corner and a 25yo 5'11" 190lb WR with 3 concussions and a diva attitude (removed because you just described 90% of the WR's in football) to go along with your franshise QB along with a 1st round swap and a 2nd round pick for the #2 pick overall which would land you a potential franchise QB, (not much relevance since the Rams have one) would we take it or would we laugh in that GM's face?GM's value picks over players because they can get the guys they want with picks. Players have to be exceptional in order for another GM to bite on giving away a top draft pick. I don't think Desean and Asante are exceptional. They are good with a lot of baggage.

I get what you're saying...

Now would that change if it was worded like the above? Maybe if they offered next years 1 as well?

Like I said before, I am not hoping this happens but if you go back just one season then Asante and D-Jax are considered exceptional. An OL coach coming in and a contract issue held them up...both wouldnt be the case if they were dealt.

They would move back 13 spots and could still land 3 potential starters...2 are NFL proven. I can see it being rejected but hardly laughed at.

That was assuming we already had a guy like Bradford on the team and were drafting at the #2 spot. The Rams can still get a guy like Blackmon or Floyd if they trade with Cleveland and Washington, both 22 years old and would be their draft pick from the start. Neither of which have concussion history. Then add in whatever ransom of picks they get from those teams. Desean isn't that enticing an offer. With Asante, you severely over value the Pro Bowl. He's 31, doesn't tackle, plays a gambling style and is not a pure cover guy. He'll get you picks but he'll also get burned if the safety over him is not in position. Its someone a team would take at the right price but what if in that new contract discussion asante feels he's in the top 10 territory? The Rams would be stuck with a disgruntled CB or overpay him. Why do that when they can get some more picks and try to draft a guy they want at a better cap price?

I'm just saying there's nothing the Eagles could offer, short of their next 3 #1's plus, that would entice the Rams to choose them over Cleveland or Washington considering the draft position they'd still be in for this year. Pick 4 or 6 is better than 15 for what they need.

 

[Awful Waffle]

Also, after Vick, I'm done with this whole "dual threat QB" stuff. Give me a pocket passer.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Also, after Vick, I'm done with this whole "dual threat QB" stuff. Give me a pocket passer.

 

[CentralPA]

Interesting tidbit from the Burger King

Howard Eskin of WIP Radio Philadelphia reported Sunday that Redskins sources told him they're prepared to offer their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks this year and at least a 1st next year.

With trade proposals like that flying around, no way Eagles have a shot to move up and get RG3. I think we can put that discussion to bed. But it is only speculation of that offer at this point.

 

[Shane Falco]

Interesting tidbit from the Burger King

Howard Eskin

I almost spit my coffee out

reminded me of this

 

[Insein]

Interesting tidbit from the Burger King

Howard Eskin

I almost spit my coffee out

reminded me of this

No comparison.Eskin is the King!

 

[Amused to Death]

Interesting tidbit from the Burger King

Howard Eskin of WIP Radio Philadelphia reported Sunday that Redskins sources told him they're prepared to offer their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks this year and at least a 1st next year.

With trade proposals like that flying around, no way Eagles have a shot to move up and get RG3. I think we can put that discussion to bed. But it is only speculation of that offer at this point.

I don't doubt that's what he's reporting (to whom I have no idea since he lost his afternoon drive slot and may just be trying to stay relevant). But I'd have to question what high-ranking Redskins official is leaking info about their draft strategy a month and half in advance, unless its just to blow smoke.Its going to take a ton to land the #2 pick. St. Louis is in a great situation where it may take a Ricky Williams-esque deal to land it.

 

[Shane Falco]

Interesting tidbit from the Burger King

Howard Eskin

I almost spit my coffee out

reminded me of this

No comparison.Eskin is the King!

Interesting tidbit from the Burger King

Howard Eskin of WIP Radio Philadelphia reported Sunday that Redskins sources told him they're prepared to offer their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks this year and at least a 1st next year.

With trade proposals like that flying around, no way Eagles have a shot to move up and get RG3. I think we can put that discussion to bed. But it is only speculation of that offer at this point.

I don't doubt that's what he's reporting (to whom I have no idea since he lost his afternoon drive slot and may just be trying to stay relevant). But I'd have to question what high-ranking Redskins official is leaking info about their draft strategy a month and half in advance, unless its just to blow smoke.Its going to take a ton to land the #2 pick. St. Louis is in a great situation where it may take a Ricky Williams-esque deal to land it.

my guess is the leak is STL. According to NFL Radio on Sirius this morning, STL was rebuffed in attempts to talk Cleveland into trading for 1.02. They (STL) need to create a bidding war (not that Dan Snyder needs to actually be bidding against someone

 

[Amused to Death]

Interesting tidbit from the Burger King

Howard Eskin

I almost spit my coffee out

reminded me of this

No comparison.Eskin is the King!

Interesting tidbit from the Burger King

Howard Eskin of WIP Radio Philadelphia reported Sunday that Redskins sources told him they're prepared to offer their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks this year and at least a 1st next year.

With trade proposals like that flying around, no way Eagles have a shot to move up and get RG3. I think we can put that discussion to bed. But it is only speculation of that offer at this point.

I don't doubt that's what he's reporting (to whom I have no idea since he lost his afternoon drive slot and may just be trying to stay relevant). But I'd have to question what high-ranking Redskins official is leaking info about their draft strategy a month and half in advance, unless its just to blow smoke.Its going to take a ton to land the #2 pick. St. Louis is in a great situation where it may take a Ricky Williams-esque deal to land it.

my guess is the leak is STL. According to NFL Radio on Sirius this morning, STL was rebuffed in attempts to talk Cleveland into trading for 1.02. They (STL) need to create a bidding war (not that Dan Snyder needs to actually be bidding against someone

St. Louis leaking it would be more plausible, however from the original quote:Howard Eskin of WIP Radio Philadelphia reported Sunday that Redskins sources told him they're prepared to offer their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks this year and at least a 1st next year.

 

[Insein]

All of this makes for some good talk radio filler until Free Agency opens. But ultimately, these teams won't know what they are offering until Peyton Manning's Fate is decided. It will be a lot though.

 

[CentralPA]

Rams are going to make out big from this any way you slice it. The most logical thing (and realistic thing) to do would be to trade with either Washington or Cleveland. Cleveland has the lure of 2 1st round picks but Dan Snyder would be crazy enough to severly hamper returns from the 2012 draft and future drafts to get this guy. Going to be an intreging storyline leading up to the draft.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

And what happens if Manning goes to Washington and Flynn gets dealt to Cleveland? Then are we in?

 

[Insein]

And what happens if Manning goes to Washington and Flynn gets dealt to Cleveland? Then are we in?

Sure, why not.

 

[Jason Wood]

Are we really still talking about us trading for RGIII?

Ugh...let's not set ourselves up for disappointment. I can't wait to hear all the naysayers on WIP screaming how we "should have traded up for RGIII" when we don't.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Are we really still talking about us trading for RGIII?Ugh...let's not set ourselves up for disappointment. I can't wait to hear all the naysayers on WIP screaming how we "should have traded up for RGIII" when we don't.

Why not?Yuo would have a while for that...if he starts going all Cam Newtown in about 8 months then maybe

 

[Jason Wood]

Are we really still talking about us trading for RGIII?Ugh...let's not set ourselves up for disappointment. I can't wait to hear all the naysayers on WIP screaming how we "should have traded up for RGIII" when we don't.

Why not?Yuo would have a while for that...if he starts going all Cam Newtown in about 8 months then maybe

I would personally applaud the move if it happened, but I don't see it happening. In fact, I see it as such a long shot I really don't know why it's getting as much run as it appears to be.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Are we really still talking about us trading for RGIII?

Ugh...let's not set ourselves up for disappointment. I can't wait to hear all the naysayers on WIP screaming how we "should have traded up for RGIII" when we don't.

Why not?

Yuo would have a while for that...if he starts going all Cam Newtown in about 8 months then maybe

I would personally applaud the move if it happened, but I don't see it happening. In fact, I see it as such a long shot I really don't know why it's getting as much run as it appears to be.

Because it's February 27th.

 

[JetMaxx]

Are we really still talking about us trading for RGIII?Ugh...let's not set ourselves up for disappointment. I can't wait to hear all the naysayers on WIP screaming how we "should have traded up for RGIII" when we don't.

Why not?Yuo would have a while for that...if he starts going all Cam Newtown in about 8 months then maybe

I would personally applaud the move if it happened, but I don't see it happening. In fact, I see it as such a long shot I really don't know why it's getting as much run as it appears to be.

Not sure how one would be surprised at the discussion considering the Eagles' "due diligence" and an aged, fragile QB. Yeah this is shocking. I like how you covered all your bases with that last post.

 

[Insein]

Are we really still talking about us trading for RGIII?

Ugh...let's not set ourselves up for disappointment. I can't wait to hear all the naysayers on WIP screaming how we "should have traded up for RGIII" when we don't.

Why not?

Yuo would have a while for that...if he starts going all Cam Newtown in about 8 months then maybe

I would personally applaud the move if it happened, but I don't see it happening. In fact, I see it as such a long shot I really don't know why it's getting as much run as it appears to be.

Because it's February 27th.

This is it right here. Listening to the talk show hosts today, I swear I know more than them. Talking about how we could give desean, both 2nds and 3rd and be in the hunt. Then mention how wash and cleveland have a pretty high pick "like 8th or something." Sigh. At least have ESPN open on your damn pc screen to see the draft order when you're talking about it all day. They've already got about 5 days of show out of this RG3 thing so far. I'm sure they can stretch it at least until Friday.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Let me put a lot of this to bed:

* Yes, the Eagles have spoken to RG. No, the Eagles have not spoken to StL. Yes, if they get a decent deal, I believe they could at least try to trade up.

* Yes, the Eagles will tag D-Jax. No, they have no intention of signing him long term. I believe that D-Jax can be had with a mid-round second round pick. I'm told CHI has already inquired about him.

* Yes, The Eagles have spoken to Kuechly. Yes, if available, they'll look hard at him. No, they will not trade up for him.

* Depending on what happens with Jackson (and FA), they might be tempted by taking a WR in the 1st. They like Floyd A LOT from what I'm told. In the second, I'll almost guarentee a QB with one of the picks.

* Twist my arm and I'll tell you that the Eagles will look at DL, OL, CB, QB with their early picks. Almost every player I've heard talked about have been from those positions.

*edit* Oh yeah, my buddy is really talking up the DT from Michigan (name escapes me now). He's going to push hard for him. Not sure where he's being projected (think 3rd or so), but we'll see.

 

[Jason Wood]

Let me put a lot of this to bed:* Yes, the Eagles have spoken to RG. No, the Eagles have not spoken to StL. Yes, if they get a decent deal, I believe they could at least try to trade up.* Yes, the Eagles will tag D-Jax. No, they have no intention of signing him long term. I believe that D-Jax can be had with a mid-round second round pick. I'm told CHI has already inquired about him.* Yes, The Eagles have spoken to Kuechly. Yes, if available, they'll look hard at him. No, they will not trade up for him.* Depending on what happens with Jackson (and FA), they might be tempted by taking a WR in the 1st. They like Floyd A LOT from what I'm told. In the second, I'll almost guarentee a QB with one of the picks.* Twist my arm and I'll tell you that the Eagles will look at DL, OL, CB, QB with their early picks. Almost every player I've heard talked about have been from those positions.*edit* Oh yeah, my buddy is really talking up the DT from Michigan (name escapes me now). He's going to push hard for him. Not sure where he's being projected (think 3rd or so), but we'll see.

Thanks DH

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Let me put a lot of this to bed:* Yes, the Eagles have spoken to RG. No, the Eagles have not spoken to StL. Yes, if they get a decent deal, I believe they could at least try to trade up.* Yes, the Eagles will tag D-Jax. No, they have no intention of signing him long term. I believe that D-Jax can be had with a mid-round second round pick. I'm told CHI has already inquired about him.* Yes, The Eagles have spoken to Kuechly. Yes, if available, they'll look hard at him. No, they will not trade up for him.* Depending on what happens with Jackson (and FA), they might be tempted by taking a WR in the 1st. They like Floyd A LOT from what I'm told. In the second, I'll almost guarentee a QB with one of the picks.* Twist my arm and I'll tell you that the Eagles will look at DL, OL, CB, QB with their early picks. Almost every player I've heard talked about have been from those positions.*edit* Oh yeah, my buddy is really talking up the DT from Michigan (name escapes me now). He's going to push hard for him. Not sure where he's being projected (think 3rd or so), but we'll see.

So glad your buddy stayed in Philly Thanks DH

 

[Polish Hammer]

Let me put a lot of this to bed:* Yes, the Eagles have spoken to RG. No, the Eagles have not spoken to StL. Yes, if they get a decent deal, I believe they could at least try to trade up.* Yes, the Eagles will tag D-Jax. No, they have no intention of signing him long term. I believe that D-Jax can be had with a mid-round second round pick. I'm told CHI has already inquired about him.* Yes, The Eagles have spoken to Kuechly. Yes, if available, they'll look hard at him. No, they will not trade up for him.* Depending on what happens with Jackson (and FA), they might be tempted by taking a WR in the 1st. They like Floyd A LOT from what I'm told. In the second, I'll almost guarentee a QB with one of the picks.* Twist my arm and I'll tell you that the Eagles will look at DL, OL, CB, QB with their early picks. Almost every player I've heard talked about have been from those positions.*edit* Oh yeah, my buddy is really talking up the DT from Michigan (name escapes me now). He's going to push hard for him. Not sure where he's being projected (think 3rd or so), but we'll see.

So glad your buddy stayed in Philly Thanks DH

 

[CentralPA]

Let me put a lot of this to bed:* Yes, the Eagles have spoken to RG. No, the Eagles have not spoken to StL. Yes, if they get a decent deal, I believe they could at least try to trade up.* Yes, the Eagles will tag D-Jax. No, they have no intention of signing him long term. I believe that D-Jax can be had with a mid-round second round pick. I'm told CHI has already inquired about him.* Yes, The Eagles have spoken to Kuechly. Yes, if available, they'll look hard at him. No, they will not trade up for him.* Depending on what happens with Jackson (and FA), they might be tempted by taking a WR in the 1st. They like Floyd A LOT from what I'm told. In the second, I'll almost guarentee a QB with one of the picks.* Twist my arm and I'll tell you that the Eagles will look at DL, OL, CB, QB with their early picks. Almost every player I've heard talked about have been from those positions.*edit* Oh yeah, my buddy is really talking up the DT from Michigan (name escapes me now). He's going to push hard for him. Not sure where he's being projected (think 3rd or so), but we'll see.

 

[Insein]

Let me put a lot of this to bed:

* Yes, the Eagles have spoken to RG. No, the Eagles have not spoken to StL. Yes, if they get a decent deal, I believe they could at least try to trade up.

* Yes, the Eagles will tag D-Jax. No, they have no intention of signing him long term. I believe that D-Jax can be had with a mid-round second round pick. I'm told CHI has already inquired about him.

* Yes, The Eagles have spoken to Kuechly. Yes, if available, they'll look hard at him. No, they will not trade up for him.

* Depending on what happens with Jackson (and FA), they might be tempted by taking a WR in the 1st. They like Floyd A LOT from what I'm told. In the second, I'll almost guarentee a QB with one of the picks.

* Twist my arm and I'll tell you that the Eagles will look at DL, OL, CB, QB with their early picks. Almost every player I've heard talked about have been from those positions.

*edit* Oh yeah, my buddy is really talking up the DT from Michigan (name escapes me now). He's going to push hard for him. Not sure where he's being projected (think 3rd or so), but we'll see.

Nice. That stinks about not moving up for Kuechly if true. They've made bold moves before to get the guy they wanted. Guess its one of those will take it if he comes to us things.

 

[SouthJersey]

YES! Love the DH updates this time of year!

Thanks bud!

 

[JAA]

Oh yeah, my buddy is really talking up the DT from Michigan (name escapes me now). He's going to push hard for him. Not sure where he's being projected (think 3rd or so), but we'll see.

Brandon Graham in the 3rd seems about right

 

[JAA]

* Twist my arm and I'll tell you that the Eagles will look at DL, OL, CB, QB with their early picks. Almost every player I've heard talked about have been from those positions.

Wonder if that means Asante is gone