*** 2012 Official Philadelphia Eagles Post Mortem Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[Awful Waffle]

Not liking this rumor that Jason Peters has an Achilles injury that may require surgery.EDIT - it's being confirmed now. Surgery on April 2nd. ####. The Eagles also signed Winston Justice to a one year deal.

Not Justice. Dunlap. Justice was traded.Wonder if this means OT in the 1st.

Right. Got the names mixed up.The only silver lining I can think of is that he's not the blind side tackle for Vick. Still sucks a LOT.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

So he's done, right?

Like career over type of done.

 

[Awful Waffle]

No. It's a serious injury, but he should be able to recover after missing this year.

Also, I like Adam Schefter on Facebook. So I get all his updates. He had a post about the injury and people were actually HAPPY about the injury. ####### scumbags.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

No. It's a serious injury, but he should be able to recover after missing this year.Also, I like Adam Schefter on Facebook. So I get all his updates. He had a post about the injury and people were actually HAPPY about the injury. ####### scumbags.

He'll be 31 and he's a very big guy who will probably have a very big cap number as well. I HOPE I'm wrong but I think it's over for him here and his best is now long gone.

 

[JetMaxx]

If I didn't know any better(and I do), I'd think the Eagles are cursed. Going back to the Fog Bowl, Randle's injury, Jerome Brown, TO's injury, etc, etc. The list of strange, poorly timed extreme misfortune is amazing.

 

[Jason Wood]

This is crushing news :(

An elite player at a key position, and so late in the season that free agency offers no solution (not that All Pro caliber LTs are ever really on the FA market).

How can this not become priority 1, 2 and 3 for us in the draft?

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Unbelievable.

So is the move Herremanns to LT and find a RT in the draft?

 

[Terpman22]

Unbelievable.So is the move Herremanns to LT and find a RT in the draft?

F#@k f*&k f%$k f**k F$&k

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Terrible, terrible news. I guess that makes what they might be drafting a little more clear. I've read articles that actually say that ACL injuries are much easier to come back from than Achilles injuries.

 

[delusional]

^ Yep.

Ach ruptures are tough for normal people. He isnt a normal person because of his weight. Same thing happened to Ryan Howard for the Phils and there isn't even a timetable on when he will be back. THE GOOD about it is when it heals, the chances of it happening again are LESS then if it never happened. Meaning it gets stronger.

So we looking at T in 1st round? Asante package for a T? There is no way they can go into the season with King Dunlap as the starting T.

 

[Terpman22]

^ Yep. Ach ruptures are tough for normal people. He isnt a normal person because of his weight. Same thing happened to Ryan Howard for the Phils and there isn't even a timetable on when he will be back. THE GOOD about it is when it heals, the chances of it happening again are LESS then if it never happened. Meaning it gets stronger.So we looking at T in 1st round? Asante package for a T? There is no way they can go into the season with King Dunlap as the starting T.

Personally I think we need to make a play for Bell. Or somehow have the eventual Asante trade factor into us getting someone to help out. Really really hurts though.

 

[delusional]

And the Eagles select Riley Reiff, OT from Iowa

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

And the Eagles select Riley Reiff, OT from Iowa

I'm thinking Mike Adams from Ohio State might be a better fit, and could probably be had in the second round. OLinemen that perform well in Howard Mudd's scheme may not necessarily grade out highly - the Eagles could certainly find a viable RT outside of the top 5 offensive linemen. While I think the Peters injury will impact their draft strategy, I hope it doesn't mean scrapping their plans for the first round, where I believe that CB or DT is the smart pick.

 

[delusional]

Well you also have to think of Peters age and how this will effect next season and beyond too.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Adams' upside is higher than Reiff, just depends on how he responds to coaching. If they're looking for a replacement instead of a stopgap, it would make some sense to wait on Adams.

 

[Shane Falco]

No. It's a serious injury, but he should be able to recover after missing this year.

Also, I like Adam Schefter on Facebook. So I get all his updates. He had a post about the injury and people were actually HAPPY about the injury. ####### scumbags.

they're here too

FBG link

 

[Insein]

And the Eagles select Riley Reiff, OT from Iowa

I'm thinking Mike Adams from Ohio State might be a better fit, and could probably be had in the second round. OLinemen that perform well in Howard Mudd's scheme may not necessarily grade out highly - the Eagles could certainly find a viable RT outside of the top 5 offensive linemen. While I think the Peters injury will impact their draft strategy, I hope it doesn't mean scrapping their plans for the first round, where I believe that CB or DT is the smart pick.

This is my thinking as well. They need immediate help this year. Defense usually has the best chance to jump right in and contribute. OL will not be very effective till at least next year. Grab one in the 2nd round and spend the first on the best available defensive player.

 

[thayman]

This is crushing news :(An elite player at a key position, and so late in the season that free agency offers no solution (not that All Pro caliber LTs are ever really on the FA market).How can this not become priority 1, 2 and 3 for us in the draft?

That's a big loss of your guys. At least it happens now when The Eagles have a chance with the draft/FA to address it rather than during preseason or OTAs late this summer.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Per Twitter Demetrius Bell is scheduled to come in for a visit tomorrow.

 

[Insein]

Per Twitter Demetrius Bell is scheduled to come in for a visit tomorrow.

Probably the best way to go. No where near PEters calibur but a solid veteran that can take the offseason to fit into the scheme and be better prepared than a Rookie. Top pick still needs to be defensive.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Unbelievable.So is the move Herremanns to LT and find a RT in the draft?

Vick is left handed. This loss while tough, its not crushing like losing the left tackle for a RH QB.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Unbelievable.So is the move Herremanns to LT and find a RT in the draft?

Vick is left handed. This loss while tough, its not crushing like losing the left tackle for a RH QB.

Tough loss, but that's not the only issue (lefty QB). With Dallas and the Giants representing 4 games, the toughest DE often opposes the LT. Add in that the Eagles tended to run better behind the left side and there's big cause for concern. At least they have time for a Plan B in FA if the draft doesn't line up well.My question is this.... and I think DH may be best to answer given his buddy in the FO.... can the Eagles count on a top grade OT in the first round? Would they have to move up to get the 2nd or 3rd OT (not getting Kalil, although I'd love to see that happen).I've seen both Reiff and Martin projected in the Top 11, 4-5 spots too high for the Eagles to count on them being available. With Ryans filling the MIKE, who else would make sense there? The preference would be a move into the Top 10 if they really like either OT and hopefully it only costs a 2nd for the privilege to move up 4-5 spaces.

 

[Game Time]

I just don't think you change your draft plans now.... Whoever we get (free agency or draft) will NOT replace Peters...... Plus, if Peters does come back December or even next year, the line is all signed long term... So you move up and draft a tackle so he won't play next year.... Can't do that with a first round pick.... Draft defense with that pick like you need and continue... Mudd can take a 3rd round pick and make him serviceable.... (or scheme to protect the LT position......

 

[Amused to Death]

Per Twitter Demetrius Bell is scheduled to come in for a visit tomorrow.

And has apparently left without a deal.UPDATE: Free agent left tackle Demetrius Bell has left Philadelphia after his weekend visit with the Eagles without a deal, according to a source close to the situation.

More to come ...

no deal

 

[eaglesfan7]

He's apparently seen six different teams and hasn't signed with any team so he's obviously asking for too much money.

 

[Awful Waffle]

I just don't think you change your draft plans now.... Whoever we get (free agency or draft) will NOT replace Peters...... Plus, if Peters does come back December or even next year, the line is all signed long term... So you move up and draft a tackle so he won't play next year.... Can't do that with a first round pick.... Draft defense with that pick like you need and continue... Mudd can take a 3rd round pick and make him serviceable.... (or scheme to protect the LT position......

Pretty much my exact thoughts. Find a short-term replacement and if they think Peters can't get back to the level he was at in 2011, fix that problem next off season.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I just don't think you change your draft plans now.... Whoever we get (free agency or draft) will NOT replace Peters...... Plus, if Peters does come back December or even next year, the line is all signed long term... So you move up and draft a tackle so he won't play next year.... Can't do that with a first round pick.... Draft defense with that pick like you need and continue... Mudd can take a 3rd round pick and make him serviceable.... (or scheme to protect the LT position......

Pretty much my exact thoughts. Find a short-term replacement and if they think Peters can't get back to the level he was at in 2011, fix that problem next off season.

I agree as well. I still think they should go with:1) Fletcher Cox2) Mark Barron2a) Luke Kuechly--Why can't he play SAM?3) Zach Brown And then address OL with one of, if not both second round picks.

 

[Insein]

I just don't think you change your draft plans now.... Whoever we get (free agency or draft) will NOT replace Peters...... Plus, if Peters does come back December or even next year, the line is all signed long term... So you move up and draft a tackle so he won't play next year.... Can't do that with a first round pick.... Draft defense with that pick like you need and continue... Mudd can take a 3rd round pick and make him serviceable.... (or scheme to protect the LT position......

Pretty much my exact thoughts. Find a short-term replacement and if they think Peters can't get back to the level he was at in 2011, fix that problem next off season.

I agree as well. I still think they should go with:1) Fletcher Cox2) Mark Barron2a) Luke Kuechly--Why can't he play SAM?3) Zach Brown And then address OL with one of, if not both second round picks.

Kuechley is still the top of my wish list but I know I'm being unrealistic. I think Barron would be the best pick if they stand pat or move up a spot or 2.

 

[Jason Wood]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM. In a way I'm glad to see we didn't use the stress of losing Peters unexpectedly into a justification of paying Bell more than he's worth. While I would rather have him than King Dunlap, Bell has only had one full healthy season as a starter, and was rated quite poorly by PFF in that season. He rated higher the following season, but got hurt again. Not the kind of guy you want to panic and pay franchise LT money in free agency.

 

[jasvic]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

 

[Jason Wood]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

 

[Insein]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

He's probably trying to use the scarcity of available talent to capitalize. Can't say I blame him. He's not premier but he has a shot to make some good coin because of the situation many teams are facing. He'll adjust his expectations or a team will get desperate. Just the way the market works. Either way, doesn't look like an option for the Eagles. Who else is out there?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

He's asking for too much money.Me and my buddies had our annual Wrestlemania get-together last night and we talked a bit about the Birds (but not too much out of respect) and he did tell us a few little nuggets:1. He is 95% sure Asante won't be an Eagle after the draft. He believes they have a deal done in principle and it won't be consummated until the draft. Wouldn't tell us who the team is.2. The injury to Peters did nothing to change their draft strategy. He said that if one of the premier OT's fell, that'd make them think a bit, but it sounds that they're going defense in the first. Hold a gun to my head and I'll say they draft Cox if they stay put. That being said, if a certain QB drops, don't be surprised if they draft for the future. Apparently there's a chance that Reid may even try to trade up if he drops to 10 or so.3. In the second, they're not ruling out anything. He thinks that they're going to go BPA with those two picks and than fill in some other need positions after that. In a way, I like that approach but man, they have some pretty glaring needs that really need adressing.That's it, nothing earth shattering, but I thought you all would like to know.

 

[Insein]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

He's asking for too much money.Me and my buddies had our annual Wrestlemania get-together last night and we talked a bit about the Birds (but not too much out of respect) and he did tell us a few little nuggets:

1. He is 95% sure Asante won't be an Eagle after the draft. He believes they have a deal done in principle and it won't be consummated until the draft. Wouldn't tell us who the team is.

2. The injury to Peters did nothing to change their draft strategy. He said that if one of the premier OT's fell, that'd make them think a bit, but it sounds that they're going defense in the first. Hold a gun to my head and I'll say they draft Cox if they stay put. That being said, if a certain QB drops, don't be surprised if they draft for the future. Apparently there's a chance that Reid may even try to trade up if he drops to 10 or so.

3. In the second, they're not ruling out anything. He thinks that they're going to go BPA with those two picks and than fill in some other need positions after that. In a way, I like that approach but man, they have some pretty glaring needs that really need adressing.

That's it, nothing earth shattering, but I thought you all would like to know.

They're that high on Tannehill? Wow! Doubt Miami lets him pass though.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

He's asking for too much money.Me and my buddies had our annual Wrestlemania get-together last night and we talked a bit about the Birds (but not too much out of respect) and he did tell us a few little nuggets:

1. He is 95% sure Asante won't be an Eagle after the draft. He believes they have a deal done in principle and it won't be consummated until the draft. Wouldn't tell us who the team is.

2. The injury to Peters did nothing to change their draft strategy. He said that if one of the premier OT's fell, that'd make them think a bit, but it sounds that they're going defense in the first. Hold a gun to my head and I'll say they draft Cox if they stay put. That being said, if a certain QB drops, don't be surprised if they draft for the future. Apparently there's a chance that Reid may even try to trade up if he drops to 10 or so.

3. In the second, they're not ruling out anything. He thinks that they're going to go BPA with those two picks and than fill in some other need positions after that. In a way, I like that approach but man, they have some pretty glaring needs that really need adressing.

That's it, nothing earth shattering, but I thought you all would like to know.

They're that high on Tannehill? Wow! Doubt Miami lets him pass though.

Yup, MIA is who they're worried about. If he gets past them, he thinks they have a real shot.

 

[Jason Wood]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

He's asking for too much money.Me and my buddies had our annual Wrestlemania get-together last night and we talked a bit about the Birds (but not too much out of respect) and he did tell us a few little nuggets:1. He is 95% sure Asante won't be an Eagle after the draft. He believes they have a deal done in principle and it won't be consummated until the draft. Wouldn't tell us who the team is.2. The injury to Peters did nothing to change their draft strategy. He said that if one of the premier OT's fell, that'd make them think a bit, but it sounds that they're going defense in the first. Hold a gun to my head and I'll say they draft Cox if they stay put. That being said, if a certain QB drops, don't be surprised if they draft for the future. Apparently there's a chance that Reid may even try to trade up if he drops to 10 or so.3. In the second, they're not ruling out anything. He thinks that they're going to go BPA with those two picks and than fill in some other need positions after that. In a way, I like that approach but man, they have some pretty glaring needs that really need adressing.That's it, nothing earth shattering, but I thought you all would like to know.

Thanks for the 4-1-1 DH Man, I would be pretty sick if they move UP to grab Tannehill.Wow.

 

[Insein]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

He's asking for too much money.Me and my buddies had our annual Wrestlemania get-together last night and we talked a bit about the Birds (but not too much out of respect) and he did tell us a few little nuggets:1. He is 95% sure Asante won't be an Eagle after the draft. He believes they have a deal done in principle and it won't be consummated until the draft. Wouldn't tell us who the team is.2. The injury to Peters did nothing to change their draft strategy. He said that if one of the premier OT's fell, that'd make them think a bit, but it sounds that they're going defense in the first. Hold a gun to my head and I'll say they draft Cox if they stay put. That being said, if a certain QB drops, don't be surprised if they draft for the future. Apparently there's a chance that Reid may even try to trade up if he drops to 10 or so.3. In the second, they're not ruling out anything. He thinks that they're going to go BPA with those two picks and than fill in some other need positions after that. In a way, I like that approach but man, they have some pretty glaring needs that really need adressing.That's it, nothing earth shattering, but I thought you all would like to know.

Thanks for the 4-1-1 DH Man, I would be pretty sick if they move UP to grab Tannehill.Wow.

How is tannehill? I really havent looked at him at all because I never thought Eagles will go QB in round 1. Is he stud potential or just another guy?

 

[Jason Wood]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

He's asking for too much money.Me and my buddies had our annual Wrestlemania get-together last night and we talked a bit about the Birds (but not too much out of respect) and he did tell us a few little nuggets:1. He is 95% sure Asante won't be an Eagle after the draft. He believes they have a deal done in principle and it won't be consummated until the draft. Wouldn't tell us who the team is.2. The injury to Peters did nothing to change their draft strategy. He said that if one of the premier OT's fell, that'd make them think a bit, but it sounds that they're going defense in the first. Hold a gun to my head and I'll say they draft Cox if they stay put. That being said, if a certain QB drops, don't be surprised if they draft for the future. Apparently there's a chance that Reid may even try to trade up if he drops to 10 or so.3. In the second, they're not ruling out anything. He thinks that they're going to go BPA with those two picks and than fill in some other need positions after that. In a way, I like that approach but man, they have some pretty glaring needs that really need adressing.That's it, nothing earth shattering, but I thought you all would like to know.

Thanks for the 4-1-1 DH Man, I would be pretty sick if they move UP to grab Tannehill.Wow.

How is tannehill? I really havent looked at him at all because I never thought Eagles will go QB in round 1. Is he stud potential or just another guy?

I think opinions vary, but it does seem that a number of teams are starting to view him as a potential franchise guy. I really can't fathom him falling past Miami (Sherman was his college coach and is now the Dolpins OC), but there seems momentum suggesting he could go higher. Either way though, I don't like the idea of PHI taking a QB in the 1st, at least not without trading down for value later (or in future years).

 

[Insein]

They just had a report on Sportscenter about the Eagles working Tannehill out in a private workout. DH could be a reporter.

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

Why would you guys want the next Kevin Kolb? He's a second round talent who will go early in the first because he's a quarterback. Another bust...

 

[Insein]

Why would you guys want the next Kevin Kolb? He's a second round talent who will go early in the first because he's a quarterback. Another bust...

Never said I did want him but the Eagles apparently might.

 

[JetMaxx]

I'm sure the Eagles' selling point to Bell is to come here under a 1 year contract, learn and flourish under Howard Mudd and flip the year into a huge contract.

No surprise on Tannehill. The guy scouts out well.

Glad to hear they're not changing draft strategy based upon Peters' injury. Give me impact on D.

 

[Awful Waffle]

Why would you guys want the next Kevin Kolb? He's a second round talent who will go early in the first because he's a quarterback. Another bust...

Not according to some people.

 

[Amused to Death]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

He's asking for too much money.Me and my buddies had our annual Wrestlemania get-together last night and we talked a bit about the Birds (but not too much out of respect) and he did tell us a few little nuggets:

1. He is 95% sure Asante won't be an Eagle after the draft. He believes they have a deal done in principle and it won't be consummated until the draft. Wouldn't tell us who the team is.

2. The injury to Peters did nothing to change their draft strategy. He said that if one of the premier OT's fell, that'd make them think a bit, but it sounds that they're going defense in the first. Hold a gun to my head and I'll say they draft Cox if they stay put. That being said, if a certain QB drops, don't be surprised if they draft for the future. Apparently there's a chance that Reid may even try to trade up if he drops to 10 or so.

3. In the second, they're not ruling out anything. He thinks that they're going to go BPA with those two picks and than fill in some other need positions after that. In a way, I like that approach but man, they have some pretty glaring needs that really need adressing.

That's it, nothing earth shattering, but I thought you all would like to know.

They're that high on Tannehill? Wow! Doubt Miami lets him pass though.

Yup, MIA is who they're worried about. If he gets past them, he thinks they have a real shot.

Great info as always from DH but it made me laugh. I heard Eskin last night on Comcast addressing the Eagles working out Tannehill..."Zero interest. They are working him out as a total smoke screen because that's what the Eagles do". Once again Eskin proves how little he knows. He just tries to stay relevant.

 

[LTsharks]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

He's asking for too much money.Me and my buddies had our annual Wrestlemania get-together last night and we talked a bit about the Birds (but not too much out of respect) and he did tell us a few little nuggets:

1. He is 95% sure Asante won't be an Eagle after the draft. He believes they have a deal done in principle and it won't be consummated until the draft. Wouldn't tell us who the team is.

2. The injury to Peters did nothing to change their draft strategy. He said that if one of the premier OT's fell, that'd make them think a bit, but it sounds that they're going defense in the first. Hold a gun to my head and I'll say they draft Cox if they stay put. That being said, if a certain QB drops, don't be surprised if they draft for the future. Apparently there's a chance that Reid may even try to trade up if he drops to 10 or so.

3. In the second, they're not ruling out anything. He thinks that they're going to go BPA with those two picks and than fill in some other need positions after that. In a way, I like that approach but man, they have some pretty glaring needs that really need adressing.

That's it, nothing earth shattering, but I thought you all would like to know.

They're that high on Tannehill? Wow! Doubt Miami lets him pass though.

Yup, MIA is who they're worried about. If he gets past them, he thinks they have a real shot.

Great info as always from DH but it made me laugh. I heard Eskin last night on Comcast addressing the Eagles working out Tannehill..."Zero interest. They are working him out as a total smoke screen because that's what the Eagles do". Once again Eskin proves how little he knows. He just tries to stay relevant.

No, I think he knows. Just saying what he is told to say to try to flip it around on other teams.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

He's asking for too much money.Me and my buddies had our annual Wrestlemania get-together last night and we talked a bit about the Birds (but not too much out of respect) and he did tell us a few little nuggets:1. He is 95% sure Asante won't be an Eagle after the draft. He believes they have a deal done in principle and it won't be consummated until the draft. Wouldn't tell us who the team is.2. The injury to Peters did nothing to change their draft strategy. He said that if one of the premier OT's fell, that'd make them think a bit, but it sounds that they're going defense in the first. Hold a gun to my head and I'll say they draft Cox if they stay put. That being said, if a certain QB drops, don't be surprised if they draft for the future. Apparently there's a chance that Reid may even try to trade up if he drops to 10 or so.3. In the second, they're not ruling out anything. He thinks that they're going to go BPA with those two picks and than fill in some other need positions after that. In a way, I like that approach but man, they have some pretty glaring needs that really need adressing.That's it, nothing earth shattering, but I thought you all would like to know.

Thanks for the 4-1-1 DH Man, I would be pretty sick if they move UP to grab Tannehill.Wow.

How is tannehill? I really havent looked at him at all because I never thought Eagles will go QB in round 1. Is he stud potential or just another guy?

I think opinions vary, but it does seem that a number of teams are starting to view him as a potential franchise guy. I really can't fathom him falling past Miami (Sherman was his college coach and is now the Dolpins OC), but there seems momentum suggesting he could go higher. Either way though, I don't like the idea of PHI taking a QB in the 1st, at least not without trading down for value later (or in future years).

Yeah, this is likely a moot point anyway as they expect MIA to take him. They also don't know if they have the ammo to leapfrog over some other teams who might covet him (maybe KC). The Eskin thing makes little sense to me as the Eagles have absolutely nothing to gain by setting up a 'smokescreen' with Tannehill. Who really cares if they 'fake' interest in a player that's probably going in the top 10 anyway.Like I said earlier though, hold a gun to my head and I think they take a D-lineman. I think that player will end up being Cox since I don't think Poe will drop. I'll be interested to see what they do if Reiff falls a bit though. Andy might not be able to help himself if that happens. Again though, I don't see it since most teams ahead of them need an OT.

 

[Insein]

The eagles have shown that they have a better talent evaluation in the later rounds for lineman. Jury is still out on Watkins but some of their better lineman have been from the later rounds. I think Mudd's ability to adapt guys to his system if they fit the mold makes me think that they will not go OL in the first. Shawn andrews memory might still haunt Andy.

 

[Please See Mine]

The eagles have shown that they have a better talent evaluation in the later rounds for lineman. Jury is still out on Watkins but some of their better lineman have been from the later rounds. I think Mudd's ability to adapt guys to his system if they fit the mold makes me think that they will not go OL in the first. Shawn andrews memory might still haunt Andy.

These are the linemen that they have drafted. Welbourn was good, but that was 12 years ago. Herremans was good. What other late round picks have been good? Little early to judge Kelce, I think.2011 1 1 23 23 Danny Watkins G Baylor 6 5 30 161 Julian Vandervele G Iowa 7 6 26 191 Jason Kelce C Cincinnati2009 5 5 23 159 Fenuki Tupou T Oregon 7 7 4 213 Paul Fanaika G Arizona State2008 4 4 10 109 Michael McGlynn G Pittsburgh 7 6 18 184 Michael Gibson G California 10 7 23 230 King Dunlap T Auburn2006 2 2 7 39 Winston Justice T USC 4 4 2 99 Max Jean-Gilles G Georgia2005 6 4 25 126 Todd Herremans T Saginaw Valley State 8 5 36 172 Scott Young G Brigham Young 9 6 37 211 Calvin Armstrong T Washington State2004 1 1 16 16 Shawn Andrews T Arkansas 4 4 35 131 Trey Darilek G Texas-El Paso 8 7 26 227 Adrien Clarke G Ohio State 10 7 42 243 Dominic Furio C Nevada-Las Vegas2003 5 6 12 185 Jeremy Bridges G Southern Mississippi2002 5 4 26 124 Scott Peters C Arizona State2000 3 2 30 61 Bobby Williams T Arkansas 7 6 26 192 John Romero C California1999 3 3 3 64 Doug Brzezinski G Boston College 4 4 2 97 John Welbourn G Californiaeta: I am awesome at formatting.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The eagles have shown that they have a better talent evaluation in the later rounds for lineman. Jury is still out on Watkins but some of their better lineman have been from the later rounds. I think Mudd's ability to adapt guys to his system if they fit the mold makes me think that they will not go OL in the first. Shawn andrews memory might still haunt Andy.

These are the linemen that they have drafted. Welbourn was good, but that was 12 years ago. Herremans was good. What other late round picks have been good? Little early to judge Kelce, I think.2011 1 1 23 23 Danny Watkins G Baylor

6 5 30 161 Julian Vandervele G Iowa

7 6 26 191 Jason Kelce C Cincinnati

2009 5 5 23 159 Fenuki Tupou T Oregon

7 7 4 213 Paul Fanaika G Arizona State

2008 4 4 10 109 Michael McGlynn G Pittsburgh

7 6 18 184 Michael Gibson G California

10 7 23 230 King Dunlap T Auburn

2006 2 2 7 39 Winston Justice T USC

4 4 2 99 Max Jean-Gilles G Georgia

2005 6 4 25 126 Todd Herremans T Saginaw Valley State

8 5 36 172 Scott Young G Brigham Young

9 6 37 211 Calvin Armstrong T Washington State

2004 1 1 16 16 Shawn Andrews T Arkansas

4 4 35 131 Trey Darilek G Texas-El Paso

8 7 26 227 Adrien Clarke G Ohio State

10 7 42 243 Dominic Furio C Nevada-Las Vegas

2003 5 6 12 185 Jeremy Bridges G Southern Mississippi

2002 5 4 26 124 Scott Peters C Arizona State

2000 3 2 30 61 Bobby Williams T Arkansas

7 6 26 192 John Romero C California

1999 3 3 3 64 Doug Brzezinski G Boston College

4 4 2 97 John Welbourn G California

eta: I am awesome at formatting.

Given where they were drafted I'd say they did well with the bolded. There's also been a few undrafted guys and FA's as well they have done OK with.

 

[Please See Mine]

Dunlap and Jean-Gilles? Really?