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If you are referring to my trade, then I don't know how it can be considered "cheap". At the time I made the deal, Richardson was pretty close to the unanimous #1 dynasty RB. Even now, he is still #2 overall and the #1 RB on the dynasty rankings here. I love me some Rice, and rode him hard for the past 4 years. But getting close to time to get off that train.
I can't give Gates away. I've even tried to include him as a throw in and people prefer crappy prospects instead -- young garbage > old garbage.
If the team with Spiller is rebuilding I like it, they probably could have got another 2014 pick included like a second or third.
Spiller is the guy you build around, not dump for a couple of far-from-elite prospects. He's 25 and just entering his prime. Even if you don't like Spiller you can get much more than a pair of unknown middle round darts for him.
He will be 26 before the season starts and he isn't the biggest guy in the league, if it takes 2 years to build this team into a contender Spiller would be 28 that season and have maybe 1 or 2 good seasons left.Miller and Gio are two of the higher rated running back prospects in fantasy football right now. I would have liked to see them have gotten Wilson or something but this is far from dumping Spiller for nothing.
Where is Spiller going in a startup vs where are Miller and Bernard going? Spiller IS an elite asset. What is the hit rate (as in having ANY fantasy value) on 2nd and 4th round NFL RBs?It's absolutely giving Spiller away.If you want to flip him for a player with more shelf life go after an elite young WR or Andrew Luck or something -- Spiller should be enough to get discussion rolling for pretty much any player in the NFL with tweaks on either side based on league format and personal preference. Taking Miller and Bernard for a young stud RB1 likely sets him back years...
He must think he'll be able to get something at 23rd overall, I think he has a bunch of second's now, unless he's trying to move into the late first. Pick 57 means nothing to me. Normally don't have a high hit rate on late 2nd's so I trade them as well.
You over value Spiller a lot, I have tried to add a little to him to get A.J. Green in one of my leagues and I was told I need to add David Wilson, Eric Decker and picks. Last year I traded McCoy for Doug Martin and a few other pieces and it didn't even come close to setting my team back years. As a matter of fact my team is stronger now, and if he wanted Martin back he would have to give me McCoy +
Ya he made that better for you
The first one is close but I think I would take Team A, the second trade isn't even close in my eyes give me Team A.
1. Spiller side. Break this down as Dez = Spiller; Smith > Bush, rest > Leshoure
I'd trade Torrey Smith for Reggie Bush in a PPR dynasty without much of a second thought.
Agreed. Was gonna say Dez barely > Spiller, Bush easily > Smith, LeShoure as semi-handcuff barely over far-future picks.
If this was a start up draft I would agree with you, but it isn't and if you read my first post I said I would have asked a little more for Spiller like a pick, I said it wasn't giving him away.
Both Miller and Bernard are going 3rd round in startups. I think you are under rating them both quite a bit. They are both top 20 Dynasty RBs right now. And both are 21 years old. If a team is rebuilding and needs to take some risks, a potential 2 for 1 (with the 2 both much younger) is a reasonable risk to take in my opinion. It is high risk but potentially high reward.
Leshoure as hand-cuff > Ingram, future 2nd ('15), future 3rd ('14)? Really?ConnSKINS26 said:
This has got to be one of the worst trades in this thread
Spiller by a lot in the 1st one.Lott said:
Got some splaining to do............is there another Calvin Johnson that plays in the NFL?
He's not overvaluing Spiller, he's right. I own Spiller in one league and would never trade him for that. I would guess 95% of owners would not trade Spiller for that.msudaisy26 said:
I'd rather have Calvin and the 1st, but I have no problem with this trade at all. Some very valuable pieces coming back.
I have a tough time getting on board with the "superstar for a bunch of smaller pieces" kind of deals.
In a 16 team league, I think Eifert and the picks pretty much cancel out. That leaves Calvin for Austin, Bernard, and Allen.
You're not as high on Shorts as I am; I like him more than Crabtree right now. Certainly understandable, though.
