Concept Coop
Footballguy
People would trade Vereen for Broyles? It would take a lot more than Broyles to get me to listen.
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2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (5 Viewers)
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EBF
Footballguy
I'm no Vereen fan, but Broyles had the ACL injury in college and then another one this past season. Even if you're a fan of his talent, I think it's fair to say that his stock is ice cold right now. At this point he's just a flyer and in some leagues I would have a tough time even finding roster space for him.
Rolling_akg
Footballguy
Team a gives deangelo Williams
Team b gives 2.06
Team b gives 2.06
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That exact same sentence went through my mind when I read the post you were responding to. Seems pretty close value to me.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Wasn't Ridley benched for a while this season due to fumbling problems? Hasn't Belichick been known to remodel his offense unexpectedly during his career? Wasn't Danny Woodhead ranked 26th in ppr leagues last season (albeit in an inconsisten manner) and is now gones?I understand that you don't like Vereen and obviously you're not necessarily wrong to feel that way, but a little reality is necessary sometimes if you want to remain credible.
I only owned Vereen in one league and took advantage of the hype by unloading him and some other pieces for Jordy Nelson (trade was listed a few posts back) - but I still realize that he does have some potential and value.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
the thing I recall reading about the NEPats off-season reports (last year) is that Vereen was consistently running with the first team in practice, but he always seems to be nicked up. He has a role as a PPR player and I also dont see Ridley as some great roadblock to Vereen getting a slice of the RB production.
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Wow, Gronk by a mile.
Incredibly light return for Gronk in a normal PPR; and laughable in a 1.5 PPR-TE league.
So very much McCoy.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
should have offered your first in 2014 and it would of gotten the deal done
I wouldn't want to trade with your stacked teams to make them more stacked, either.
Enderdog
Footballguy
Followup Trade:Team C gives:
Richardson, Daryl STL RB
Simpson, Jerome MIN WR
Houston, Lamarr OAK DE
Burris, Miles OAK LB
Team B gives:
Avril, Cliff DET DE
Moore, William ATL S
Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Houston Texans
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Team B was ready to walk if Team A wasn't willing to budge.Once again, I always find it amusing that the 3.06 has to get thrown in there to even things out.'moderated said:
Obviously biased as I own him in every league I'm in, but no way would I accept Romo and Alf for Cam
Lott's Fingertip
Footballguy
So Team B was willing to do Team A a favor if he didn't budge?Team B was ready to walk if Team A wasn't willing to budge.Once again, I always find it amusing that the 3.06 has to get thrown in there to even things out.'moderated said:
cstu
Footballguy
I find it funny as well. "We're close but I'm not going to do it unless I get to move up two spots in the 3rd round."Once again, I always find it amusing that the 3.06 has to get thrown in there to even things out.'moderated said:
bengalbuck
Footballguy
It looks almost dead even to me and I own Cam in almost every league as well. I know you have to worry about Shanahan, but Morris was 2nd in the NFL in rushing as a rookie and has a lot of value in his own right.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
PPR I'd pass. Standard is really close to me. And, like you two, I'm a heavy Cam owner.
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bengalbuck
Footballguy
Speaking of Cam, 12 team PPR, QB flex
Gave:
Trent Richardson
Ryan Mathews
Matt Hasselbeck
Got:
Cam Newton
Matt Forte
Absolutely hated having to give up T. Rich but I was hurting bad at QB. Other owner also has Luck and Russ Wilson, so one of those great trades that should help both teams.
Gave:
Trent Richardson
Ryan Mathews
Matt Hasselbeck
Got:
Cam Newton
Matt Forte
Absolutely hated having to give up T. Rich but I was hurting bad at QB. Other owner also has Luck and Russ Wilson, so one of those great trades that should help both teams.
cstu
Footballguy
Cam easy with the QB flex.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
In a super-flex league, I think you made out very well.
bengalbuck
Footballguy
Thanks. I love Cam and am high on Forte also, so I felt pretty good about it. We do have to start 3 flexes every week (only 1 can be QB) in addition to 1/2/3/1, so RBs and WRs are still very valuable as well.The frustrating thing is that early last season with Cam off to a slow start I turned down an offer from this same owner of Cam straight up for Ryan Mathews. Much steeper price 5 months later.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
No way an owner who ever has had any real success at FF would give away Gronk like that'moderated said:
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Gotta hate when that happens. Yes, Mccoy by a mile.In the case where he wanted Faddy, Gordon, and 1.4 from you......................offhand I really cant way one way or another. I think that might be one where I stay put if I had Mccoy, and also if I had the package.
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Horrible at trying to gauge value of future draft picks, so interested to see what the sharks think of a pair of moves trying to rebuild.
This team finished 11 out of 12 in a WCOFF scoring style dynasty. Very old. Very little talent.
Had picks 1.02, 2.02, 3.02. I need young talent, at least to substantially rebuild half this roster.
Traded 2.02 for 2.09 & Foles (Vick, Schuab were/are qbs)
Traded 1.02 for Pierce, L. James, and 3.09. (Murray, Gore, Hunter were/are rbs)
Bottom line: 1.02, 2.02 turned into Foles, Pierce, James, 2.09, 3.09.
I'm not sure about value, but I got 3 young players I like, who handcuff my qb/rb situation, and still have 3 later picks.
This team finished 11 out of 12 in a WCOFF scoring style dynasty. Very old. Very little talent.
Had picks 1.02, 2.02, 3.02. I need young talent, at least to substantially rebuild half this roster.
Traded 2.02 for 2.09 & Foles (Vick, Schuab were/are qbs)
Traded 1.02 for Pierce, L. James, and 3.09. (Murray, Gore, Hunter were/are rbs)
Bottom line: 1.02, 2.02 turned into Foles, Pierce, James, 2.09, 3.09.
I'm not sure about value, but I got 3 young players I like, who handcuff my qb/rb situation, and still have 3 later picks.
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cstu
Footballguy
You gave up a lot of value on both trades. I suggest checking out the dynasty start up thread to help you gauge value and also post in the Assistant Coach forum. If you need young talent you shouldn't be trading picks to get it. You also shouldn't trading high picks for guys who were 2nd and 3rd round picks last year. Murray and Gore are the guys you should be trading for picks. It looks like you're falling into the trap of doing a half ### rebuild instead of accepting that you don't have a good enough team to compete and trade away your vets who still hold some value.
cstu
Footballguy
I had someone asking for two 1st's for SJax and when said it was too much turned around and traded him for a 2015 2nd and 3rd.
cstu
Footballguy
Very interesting but I'd still go with the sure thing.
cstu
Footballguy
What's the thinking here - McCoy going into RBBC?
Andrew74
Footballguy
Give me Shady and Jimmy
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
I think you did well getting players and picks with this class not being strong at the top. Maybe you could have received more for the 1.02 but no one really knows who that player could be with the talent being thin. It's better to trade down with this class. Thumbs up
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
For a rebuilding team, that's a nice haul. Well, a pretty nice haul, taking into account that Green is a nearly untradeable stud and nothing definite came back.But then, Rogers is my #1 WR in this class (possibly the same for you, EBF?) I would have liked another RB besides Lattimore though. I wouldn't touch him anywhere and he doesn't add much value to this deal for me. I'd immediately flip him to a believer.
Andrew74
Footballguy
Followed this up with this oneI gave up:Wilson, Russell SEA QBYear 2013 Draft Pick 2.07Team B gave up:Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.01Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.01
BrainDeadGenius
Footballguy
Wes Welker
FOR
1.06, 3.06
FOR
1.06, 3.06
EBF
Footballguy
Tend to agree. Pretty even trade. You can argue either side. Green is a great player to have. Lee is a top prospect. Better than any WR or RB in this draft by far. Even if he never ends up being AJ Green good, you can take comfort in knowing that he's going to be a wanted commodity for the next 12 months. I don't rate Da'Rick as highly even if he ends up being the #1 WR on my board (which he definitely might), but he's still a good piece to get. Could be something like a Bowe type in the NFL. Brown is a solid WR3. Lattimore and Gray have very little value to me.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
In a 12 team, start-1 QB league that is a GREAT job selling Wilson, unless he's in your top-3 or you're IamtheScientist.
cstu
Footballguy
I believe Lee will be another Torry Holt so I definitely think it's fair but there's a lot of risk with Rogers and Lattimore.
cstu
Footballguy
That's a good point. Even if you don't end up keeping him his value will be through the roof this time next year.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Wow, give me Team B'Neo said:
Lee went straight up for Wallace in my Devy League.
