2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (4 Viewers)

[dmac37]

14 team PPR salary cap league. The cap is $400Gave: Reggie Bush at 54 Knowshon Moreno at 1 Hankerson at 2 Finley at 10Got: Kaepernick at 1 Brandon Myers at 20I think I got the best player and saved myself 46 bucks to spend on FA's

I'm the other guy in this trade. It was tough giving up Kaep for $1 but also having Rodgers as my QB made it easier. I'm thinking Bush will be PPR gold in the Lion offense, Finley only $6 & IMO is set for a better season this year and Moreno is a low risk high reward if he is the man again with Denver.I'm gambling that Bush is big in Detroit for a couple of years and hope Finley is a #1 TE again. Time will tell....

 

[East Bay Rounder]

Team A gave: Freeman, Blount, DJones, Wayne

Team B gave: Fitzpatrick, Kolb, Turbin, Lloyd, 2014 1st, 2014 2nd

 

[kutta]

I GAVE:

Rookie 1.07

Rookie 3.07

Gonzo

Philip Rivers

I GOT:

Rookie 3.01

Peyton Manning

PPR league. My QB's were horrible (Rivers, Tannehil, Weeden). The 3.01 pick is very valuable because rounds 1 and 2 are done right after the NFL draft, and rounds 3 and 4 are done about 3 weeks before the season starts. You can score guys who win jobs in training camp and preseason like Arian Foster with the 3.01.

 

[The Comedian]

16 team, non PPR:

Team A gave:

1.03

1.16

Jake Locker

2.14

2014 2nd

2015 3rd

Team B gave:

Percey Harvin

Christian Ponder

LaRon Landry

2.16

 

[Phenix]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Manning, Eli NYG QB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.08

[*]Bringing Out the Big Guns gave up Wilson, Russell SEA QB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Bringing Out the Big Guns

Very cheap for Wilson, I hope owner giving him up has a top 5 starter already if he made this deal.

No he has Freeman Bradford and now Eli. He really wanted pick 8.

Doesn't seem like a good decision with Bradford and Freeman as the other QBs.

Are People that down on Eli this year?

 

[Sitch]

12 team PPR, I had some good WR depth and wanted to get younger:

I traded Wayne and 3.10 for Little and 2.03

Still leaves me with Calvin, Cobb, Crabtree, Roddy and D.Moore at WR

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

Just completed this trade in dynasty Non-PPR 12 tm

10 yds per pt Rushing & Receiving

30 yds per pt Returns (kick & punt)

6 pts for all TDs

QB

RB RB

WR WR WR

TE

K

DEF

I gave up...

Randall Cobb

Chris Ivory

I got back...

Julio Jones

*1st Rd pick in 2014 or the 2.8 THIS yr if he doesn't like the players available when he is on the clock @ 2.8

In this league Return Yardage is a nice side piece but I personally dont think Cobb will get as much work in that area this yr. Gimme Julio all day!!

 

[loose circuits]

Just completed this trade in dynasty Non-PPR 12 tm10 yds per pt Rushing & Receiving30 yds per pt Returns (kick & punt)6 pts for all TDs QBRB RBWR WR WRTEKDEF I gave up...Randall CobbChris Ivory I got back...Julio Jones*1st Rd pick in 2014 or the 2.8 THIS yr if he doesn't like the players available when he is on the clock @ 2.8 In this league Return Yardage is a nice side piece but I personally dont think Cobb will get as much work in that area this yr. Gimme Julio all day!!

that's insanity. Seems like the pick is on the wrong side and even then it doesn't make it fair. I would buy Julio all day at that price

 

[Concept Coop]

that's insanity. Seems like the pick is on the wrong side and even then it doesn't make it fair. I would buy Julio all day at that price

The return scoring is a big part of a player's value, in this format. He had 1,256 return yards and 3 TDs. He added close to 4 points a game.

I am not a big fan of return leagues, so don't play in any, thus can't comment with too much certainty. But I can see why someone would take Cobb over Jones, given the scoring system.

 

[jonboltz]

12 team standard PPR

A gets: Cobb, S-Jax

B gets: Spiller

12 team Superflex/Cap league

C gets: Flynn ($4)

D gets: S Rice ($5)

 

[Concept Coop]

12 team standard PPR

A gets: Cobb, S-Jax

B gets: Spiller

12 team Superflex/Cap league

C gets: Flynn ($4)

D gets: S Rice ($5)

I'd take Spiller in the first trade, who I think is a border-line 1st round start-up pick. Not a bad deal for either team, however.

I'd take a chance on Flynn in a Superflex at this price. I don't think he's the long-term answer, but there is some potential there, which is big in this setup.

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

that's insanity. Seems like the pick is on the wrong side and even then it doesn't make it fair. I would buy Julio all day at that price

The return scoring is a big part of a player's value, in this format. He had 1,256 return yards and 3 TDs. He added close to 4 points a game.

I am not a big fan of return leagues, so don't play in any, thus can't comment with too much certainty. But I can see why someone would take Cobb over Jones, given the scoring system.

The return yardage was voted on as an alternative to PPR scoring... its a nice boost for the rare player that has BOTH a role on offense & does returns.

Randall Cobb & Percy Harvin are very valuable in these formats but looking back through the yrs I noticed that rarely do they keep their value as a returner if they are heavily involved on offense.

Example: DeSean Jackson was an animal in this league for 1 yr but then the Eagles decided he was too valuable to use on returns so they scaled those back dramatically. I envision the Packers doing that with Cobb... The Vikings kind of started doing that with Harvin until he complained and now in Seattle I'm not sure what his involvement will be on returns.

Jacoby Ford was also quite the player in his rookie campaign in this format.

I expect this year's surprise returner/wr value could be Dwayne Harris in Dallas... especially if/when Austin gets dinged again and misses time.

 

[jwb]

16 team non-ppr.

Give: Morris, D. Richardson, Antonio Brown

Get: Rice/Pierce, M Floyd (AZ)

 

[loose circuits]

that's insanity. Seems like the pick is on the wrong side and even then it doesn't make it fair. I would buy Julio all day at that price

The return scoring is a big part of a player's value, in this format. He had 1,256 return yards and 3 TDs. He added close to 4 points a game. I am not a big fan of return leagues, so don't play in any, thus can't comment with too much certainty. But I can see why someone would take Cobb over Jones, given the scoring system.

I think they might take him off returns, ouch

 

[Concept Coop]

I think they might take him off returns, ouch

And you very well could be right. But I highly doubt it, personally. When Jones and Jordy were healthy, they both started over Cobb. I highly doubt they neglect to use their best return man because he's the slot WR.

 

[Pipes]

I think they might take him off returns, ouch

And you very well could be right. But I highly doubt it, personally. When Jones and Jordy were healthy, they both started over Cobb. I highly doubt they neglect to use their best return man because he's the slot WR.

McCarthy pulled Cobb on punt return duties for Brandon Ross in the playoffs until he muffed that kick. Cobb is too valuable that offense to be returning kicks for too much longer.

 

[Concept Coop]

McCarthy pulled Cobb on punt return duties for Brandon Ross in the playoffs until he muffed that kick. Cobb is too valuable that offense to be returning kicks for too much longer.

Based on snap count, he's the 3rd WR on the team, so I doubt it. But we'll see.

 

[Pipes]

McCarthy pulled Cobb on punt return duties for Brandon Ross in the playoffs until he muffed that kick. Cobb is too valuable that offense to be returning kicks for too much longer.

Based on snap count, he's the 3rd WR on the team, so I doubt it. But we'll see.

http://proplayerinsiders.com/randall-cobb-wont-return-kicks-in-2013/And this was before Jennings left

 

[Concept Coop]

http://proplayerinsiders.com/randall-cobb-wont-return-kicks-in-2013/

And this was before Jennings left

I wasn't aware of that quote, so you're likely right. Thus, Cobb wouldn't get the major bump. I'd like to see what happens, though. So while I wouldn't trade Jones for him, knowing this, I still think he's more valuable in this format.

Still, looks like you're right.

 

[Banemorth]

16 Team full IDPI Give:Michael Floyd, 1.10, 1.12, 2.10, 3.08, 4.08, 4.10, 5.10, 5.11, 2015 3rdI Get:Mike Wallace, Stevie Johnson, Wilkerson, Jimmy Smith, Goldson, Donte Hightower, Donald Butler, 2015 2nd

 

[Concept Coop]

12 team PPR - Not involved

C*** Tide gave up BJGE, Lance Moore; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Cigar City Crimson Tide

S*** gave up 1.07, Danario Alexander

 

[dewmass]

12 team non PPR, not involved myself

A gives - D.Jackson, E.Decker

B gives - R.Cobb

Terrible sell low on Cobb imo

 

[I was in the pool]

12 team PPR - Not involved C*** Tide gave up BJGE, Lance Moore; Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Cigar City Crimson Tide S*** gave up 1.07, Danario Alexander

Hopefully that is a decent 14 1st

 

[jonboltz]

12 team non PPR, not involved myself

A gives - D.Jackson, E.Decker

B gives - R.Cobb

Terrible sell low on Cobb imo

I'm not a big DJax fan, but if there is any way he could flip him for something marginally useful, I'd rather have that side. In a non-PPR, I expect Decker to outscore Cobb for at least the next two years.

 

[thriftyrocker]

12 team non PPR, not involved myself

A gives - D.Jackson, E.Decker

B gives - R.Cobb

Terrible sell low on Cobb imo

I'm not a big DJax fan, but if there is any way he could flip him for something marginally useful, I'd rather have that side. In a non-PPR, I expect Decker to outscore Cobb for at least the next two years.

You can flip Cobb for Crabtree, Cruz, Fitzgerald or <fill in name you think will do a lot better than Decker the next couple years>. Even if you still like Decker, his value is pretty low right now. Even if you believe Decker will outscore Cobb, I think it was a bad deal.

 

[jonboltz]

12 team non PPR, not involved myself

A gives - D.Jackson, E.Decker

B gives - R.Cobb

Terrible sell low on Cobb imo

I'm not a big DJax fan, but if there is any way he could flip him for something marginally useful, I'd rather have that side. In a non-PPR, I expect Decker to outscore Cobb for at least the next two years.

You can flip Cobb for Crabtree, Cruz, Fitzgerald or <fill in name you think will do a lot better than Decker the next couple years>. Even if you still like Decker, his value is pretty low right now. Even if you believe Decker will outscore Cobb, I think it was a bad deal.

This is something I don't often consider. If I knew ahead of time that there were some bad owners in my league that would trade one of those guys for Cobb, then I'd easily do this deal.

 

[thriftyrocker]

12 team non PPR, not involved myself

A gives - D.Jackson, E.Decker

B gives - R.Cobb

Terrible sell low on Cobb imo

I'm not a big DJax fan, but if there is any way he could flip him for something marginally useful, I'd rather have that side. In a non-PPR, I expect Decker to outscore Cobb for at least the next two years.

You can flip Cobb for Crabtree, Cruz, Fitzgerald or <fill in name you think will do a lot better than Decker the next couple years>. Even if you still like Decker, his value is pretty low right now. Even if you believe Decker will outscore Cobb, I think it was a bad deal.

This is something I don't often consider. If I knew ahead of time that there were some bad owners in my league that would trade one of those guys for Cobb, then I'd easily do this deal.

It's not bad owners, per se. Those players are behind Cobb in ADP.

 

[Mimo]

12 team non PPR, not involved myselfA gives - D.Jackson, E.DeckerB gives - R.CobbTerrible sell low on Cobb imo

I'm not a big DJax fan, but if there is any way he could flip him for something marginally useful, I'd rather have that side. In a non-PPR, I expect Decker to outscore Cobb for at least the next two years.

You can flip Cobb for Crabtree, Cruz, Fitzgerald or <fill in name you think will do a lot better than Decker the next couple years>. Even if you still like Decker, his value is pretty low right now. Even if you believe Decker will outscore Cobb, I think it was a bad deal.

This is something I don't often consider. If I knew ahead of time that there were some bad owners in my league that would trade one of those guys for Cobb, then I'd easily do this deal.

It's not bad owners, per se. Those players are behind Cobb in ADP.

I own both Cruz and Crabtree and won't trade either straight up for Cobb. Them being behind Cobb means very little to me. I would hope owners don't look at ADP and make deals based on it but I'm sure many do. It's very flawed logic.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I would hope owners don't look at ADP and make deals based on it but I'm sure many do. It's very flawed logic.

There are flaws, but it is as good an indication on market value as anything we have. Obviously I'm not going to look past team need (cross-positional, young vs. old, etc.) to harp on ADP.

Comparing two young/prime WRs like Cobb and Crabtree is not showing off any of the flaws.

15 startups and 14 of them Cobb goes first, that's not good data?

 

[dansav]

Just traded DHB and my 3.06 rookie pick for Cecil Shorts and couldn't be happier....

 

[One More Rep]

Just traded DHB and my 3.06 rookie pick for Cecil Shorts and couldn't be happier....

Wow nice deal

 

[Concept Coop]

Just traded DHB and my 3.06 rookie pick for Cecil Shorts and couldn't be happier....

 

[Concept Coop]

There are flaws, but it is as good an indication on market value as anything we have. Obviously I'm not going to look past team need (cross-positional, young vs. old, etc.) to harp on ADP.

Comparing two young/prime WRs like Cobb and Crabtree is not showing off any of the flaws.

15 startups and 14 of them Cobb goes first, that's not good data?

I agree on all parts; ADP is a very valuable tool, and should be used as additional context. I also agree on the deal, and as most know, I'm a Decker fan and not as high as the market on Cobb. As Thrifty said, turn Cobb into Cruz or Blackmon+. Decker is a good buy, right now, in my opinion, but I am not going to pay anywhere near the pre-Welker price.

 

[cstu]

12 team non PPR, not involved myselfA gives - D.Jackson, E.DeckerB gives - R.CobbTerrible sell low on Cobb imo

I'm not a big DJax fan, but if there is any way he could flip him for something marginally useful, I'd rather have that side. In a non-PPR, I expect Decker to outscore Cobb for at least the next two years.

You can flip Cobb for Crabtree, Cruz, Fitzgerald or <fill in name you think will do a lot better than Decker the next couple years>. Even if you still like Decker, his value is pretty low right now. Even if you believe Decker will outscore Cobb, I think it was a bad deal.

This is something I don't often consider. If I knew ahead of time that there were some bad owners in my league that would trade one of those guys for Cobb, then I'd easily do this deal.

It's not bad owners, per se. Those players are behind Cobb in ADP.

I own both Cruz and Crabtree and won't trade either straight up for Cobb. Them being behind Cobb means very little to me.I would hope owners don't look at ADP and make deals based on it but I'm sure many do. It's very flawed logic.

I took Cobb ahead of Cruz and Crabtree since I think he'll put up more fantasy points long-term, not because his ADP was higher.

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

12 team non PPR, not involved myselfA gives - D.Jackson, E.DeckerB gives - R.CobbTerrible sell low on Cobb imo

I'm not a big DJax fan, but if there is any way he could flip him for something marginally useful, I'd rather have that side. In a non-PPR, I expect Decker to outscore Cobb for at least the next two years.

You can flip Cobb for Crabtree, Cruz, Fitzgerald or <fill in name you think will do a lot better than Decker the next couple years>. Even if you still like Decker, his value is pretty low right now. Even if you believe Decker will outscore Cobb, I think it was a bad deal.

This is something I don't often consider. If I knew ahead of time that there were some bad owners in my league that would trade one of those guys for Cobb, then I'd easily do this deal.

It's not bad owners, per se. Those players are behind Cobb in ADP.

I own both Cruz and Crabtree and won't trade either straight up for Cobb. Them being behind Cobb means very little to me.I would hope owners don't look at ADP and make deals based on it but I'm sure many do. It's very flawed logic.

I took Cobb ahead of Cruz and Crabtree since I think he'll put up more fantasy points long-term, not because his ADP was higher.

To call the cobb/decker trade terrible is exaggerating. There's no guarantee Cobb blows up but everyone has a different opinion. I prefer Crabtree or Cruz over Cobb easily.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

14 team PPR

Gave:

Julio

1.7

2014 3rd

Got:

Harvin

1.1

5.1

 

[Banemorth]

14 team PPRGave:Julio1.72014 3rdGot:Harvin1.15.1

Great deal.

 

[One More Rep]

Team a gets Ronnie Hillman/Emmanuel Sanders/2013 rookie pick 2.7

Team b gets T.Y. Hilton/ Chris Ivory

 

[ConnSKINS26]

14 team PPRGave:Julio1.72014 3rdGot:Harvin1.15.1

Great deal.

Thank you! I wasn't sure how it would be received here, Julio is seen as nearly untradeable in lots of leagues.

 

[One More Rep]

• Kiss My Ring gave up Wilson, Russell SEA QB; Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Bringing Out the Big Guns
• Jack Mehoff gave up Weeden, Brandon CLE QB; Johnson, Chris TEN RB

Not a Johnson guy so I prefer Wilson

 

[Phenix]

• Kiss My Ring gave up Wilson, Russell SEA QB; Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Bringing Out the Big Guns
• Jack Mehoff gave up Weeden, Brandon CLE QB; Johnson, Chris TEN RB

Not a Johnson guy so I prefer Wilson

So your not a "Johnson" guy so that means his value as an elite runner is down? K

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

14 team PPRGave:Julio1.72014 3rdGot:Harvin1.15.1

Easily take the Julio side. Julio or Harvin? No real talent difference between the 1.01 and 1.07 imo this season.

 

[Banemorth]

14 team PPRGave:Julio1.72014 3rdGot:Harvin1.15.1

Great deal.

Thank you! I wasn't sure how it would be received here, Julio is seen as nearly untradeable in lots of leagues.

Yeah I don't see Julio the same way as everyone else. Only three dynasty recievers I have over Harvin are Calvin, Dez, and Green.

 

[Banemorth]

16 Team full IDPI Give:Michael Floyd, 1.10, 1.12, 2.10, 3.08, 4.08, 4.10, 5.10, 5.11, 2015 3rdI Get:Mike Wallace, Stevie Johnson, Wilkerson, Jimmy Smith, Goldson, Donte Hightower, Donald Butler, 2015 2nd

No thoughts on this one eh? I really liked it. Improved my starting lineup by a wide margin.

 

[Mimo]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Wilson, Russell SEA QB; Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Bringing Out the Big Guns

[*]Jack Mehoff gave up Weeden, Brandon CLE QB; Johnson, Chris TEN RB

Not a Johnson guy so I prefer Wilson

Not a good deal here, Ill take Wilson for that.

 

[Phenix]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Wilson, Russell SEA QB; Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Bringing Out the Big Guns

[*]Jack Mehoff gave up Weeden, Brandon CLE QB; Johnson, Chris TEN RB

Not a Johnson guy so I prefer Wilson

Not a good deal here, Ill take Wilson for that.

An elite RB for the #10 QB? Pick 17 in a bad draft and a 2nd next year? Firm and Weeden stink.

Maybe I'm wrong on this, but CJ is still an elite every down back, Greene scares me none.

 

[One More Rep]

• Kiss My Ring gave up Wilson, Russell SEA QB; Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Bringing Out the Big Guns
• Jack Mehoff gave up Weeden, Brandon CLE QB; Johnson, Chris TEN RB

Not a Johnson guy so I prefer Wilson

So your not a "Johnson" guy so that means his value as an elite runner is down? K

Just means I would trade him for Wilson and a couple 2nd rounders

 

[ConnSKINS26]

[*]Kiss My Ring gave up Wilson, Russell SEA QB; Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04; Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Bringing Out the Big Guns

[*]Jack Mehoff gave up Weeden, Brandon CLE QB; Johnson, Chris TEN RB

Not a Johnson guy so I prefer Wilson

So your not a "Johnson" guy so that means his value as an elite runner is down? K

If he's not a Johnson guy, it probably means he doesn't see him as an elite runner or valuable RB1 going forward. No need to get defensive.

 

[One More Rep]

Team a gets Jeremy Maclin

Team b gets Cecil Shorts

 

[ConnSKINS26]

14 team PPRGave:Julio1.72014 3rdGot:Harvin1.15.1

Easily take the Julio side. Julio or Harvin? No real talent difference between the 1.01 and 1.07 imo this season.

Disagree entirely. But then that's why I targeted the 1.1. I'm a huge Lacy believer, and thought the minimal drop from Julio to Harvin was worth it.