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2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (2 Viewers)

Concept Coop said:
JPeso said:
Team A gave: Blackmon, 1.12

Team B gave: Wallace, Britt
I'll take Wallace and Britt.
I'm pretty low on Britt right now, so this is close to me. But I'd take Wallace and Britt, too. After lowering Wallace's value after the trade, it's starting to rebound with the more thought I give it. The money is a very good sign, and I have read some nice things about Tannehill's arm. I'd still take Blackmon, but it's closer for me that it is to most, I think.

Britt, as much as I hate having him on my roster, is worth a good deal more than the 1.12.
This is from a new startup and Blackmon was my target during the draft, but he got taken earlier than I wanted and had to settle for Wallace. I like Britt but my WR's are now Julio, Cobb, Nicks and Blackmon (start 1-4). Giving up Britt was tough but I think Blackmon could become untouchable after this year. The 1.12 looks like it will still be a good player as well.
Blackmon's got a few more years of risky #### happening to him whereas it seems Britt/Wallace have worn thin on some, for this, Blackmon is the safer side and does have a nice ability so it's not a bad deal. We know he is not completely fool's gold.

Perhaps I am biased as I saw Britt this past week and he is a physically imposing killer monster man. And Wallace.. he's alright..

 
thriftyrocker said:
EBF said:
Factoring cost into the equation, I would rather have Chris Givens. He showed the same positives, but won't cost as much in most cases.
I'm starting to agree Givens is a buy given STL replaced Amendola with Cook but his upside is nowhere near as high as Gordon. Givens is a finesse WR who is easily jammed. His upside is capped by size and game. Gordon is only limited by how fast he can learn and improve.
I like Gordon quite a bit as a player, but it's hard to ignore the fact that he plays for a bottom 5 NFL organization. I just don't trust Cleveland to draft / develop / improve / etc. IMO it's a pretty big limiting factor.
Do you take that into account with Richardson as well?
Absolutely. I've been on the "Richardson is over-rated (in FF only, not NFL-wise)" bandwagon since Cleveland took him.
 
Concept Coop said:
JPeso said:
Team A gave: Blackmon, 1.12 Team B gave: Wallace, Britt
I'll take Wallace and Britt.
I'm pretty low on Britt right now, so this is close to me. But I'd take Wallace and Britt, too. After lowering Wallace's value after the trade, it's starting to rebound with the more thought I give it. The money is a very good sign, and I have read some nice things about Tannehill's arm. I'd still take Blackmon, but it's closer for me that it is to most, I think. Britt, as much as I hate having him on my roster, is worth a good deal more than the 1.12.
This is from a new startup and Blackmon was my target during the draft, but he got taken earlier than I wanted and had to settle for Wallace. I like Britt but my WR's are now Julio, Cobb, Nicks and Blackmon (start 1-4). Giving up Britt was tough but I think Blackmon could become untouchable after this year. The 1.12 looks like it will still be a good player as well.
Blackmon's got a few more years of risky #### happening to him whereas it seems Britt/Wallace have worn thin on some, for this, Blackmon is the safer side and does have a nice ability so it's not a bad deal. We know he is not completely fool's gold. Perhaps I am biased as I saw Britt this past week and he is a physically imposing killer monster man. And Wallace.. he's alright..
Physically Britt is top-5 in the NFL at WR IMO. He's a Brandon Marshall / TO level beast. Too bad he has all of the crazy that those two bring and might have none of the work ethic.I own him in every league I'm in - but last year he didn't look like the same guy as he did prior to the latest injury. I'm pretty sure he's not the guy putting in extra hours at the rehab facility Peterson-style. Certainly not selling at current value, but last year worried me...
 
12 team PPR

Acquired James Jones in a trade a day or two ago. Moved him today.

Gave: James Jones

Got: Ingram, 2.02 and 3.02

 
Dynasty PPR, $220 cap . start 1qb, 1rb, 2wr, 1 te, 1flexTraded Mendenhall $3, and Bradford $10 for Nicks $18I have Cam, foles and Vick at qb morris, ridley, beanie at rb,and Julio, Gordon, djax, Andre Roberts at wr, feel nicks is an upgrade behind Julio. Hope to grab a rookie rb
Well turned around and traded Morris $10, and Nicks $18 for ray Rice $10, VJax $7, and Vereeniging $1. Vereen handcuffs Ridley for me.I just felt Rice is the best player in the deal, especially in PPR
 
Couple start-up trades, 12 team ppr

Team A Gave - 7.05 and 2014 1st rounder

Team B Gave - 4.02

Team A Gave - 1.05 and 8.08

Team B Gave - 2.03 and 4.03

 
In a 12 team PPR QB flex (can start two 2 QB, but only 4 Points for passing TD vs 6 for receiving/rushing), I made this trade. I got stafford. To give some context, with this trade, he owns 7 picks in top 8 of this draft. What do you all think?

wow, collect all those picks and just give them away like that, pretty sad

 
In a 12 team PPR QB flex (can start two 2 QB, but only 4 Points for passing TD vs 6 for receiving/rushing), I made this trade. I got stafford. To give some context, with this trade, he owns 7 picks in top 8 of this draft. What do you all think?

wow, collect all those picks and just give them away like that, pretty sad
I could see paying one of them to get Stafford perhaps - but then two top 3 picks for Moore and Tampa Mike? Way to waste value.

 
Team A gets:

RG3

Dez Bryant

Team B gets:

Andrew Luck

AJ Green

Seemed pretty even to me. Team A gets more upside, but Team B gets less risk.
Love this trade for Team A... RG3 and Dez both have continuing question marks... health for RG3 and attitude for Dez. I also think Luck > RG3; AJG > Dez.
I couldn't deal Dez for AJ. Just don't see that 370-400 point upside with AJ. If I was the holder of RG3/Dez, I would add nothing to get Luck/AJG, but instead would want a mid 2nd or so as a dart come draft day.
thats a very interesting trade and would only accept it if I was a huge fan of one the players. RG and Luck gotta be pretty close to even w/ the Luck & AJ side bringing more long term value while Dez and RG bring a little more upside.

 
Couple start-up trades, 12 team pprTeam A Gave - 7.05 and 2014 1st rounderTeam B Gave - 4.02
That's a long way back for a 2014 1st.
especially when you are giving the team you are getting the first rounder from the benefit of adding an additional impact player to help raise their spot in the final standings during the first season.
yeah, its not too bad in a 12 team, especially if it IDP, but I always like to be on the giving end and not taking end.

 
In a 12 team PPR QB flex (can start two 2 QB, but only 4 Points for passing TD vs 6 for receiving/rushing), I made this trade. I got stafford. To give some context, with this trade, he owns 7 picks in top 8 of this draft. What do you all think?

wow, collect all those picks and just give them away like that, pretty sad
I could see paying one of them to get Stafford perhaps - but then two top 3 picks for Moore and Tampa Mike? Way to waste value.
In a 2 QB league I don't mind this deal at all. I don't think any of the QB's this year come anywhere close to Stafford's upside. Put names to the picks and Stafford for Lacy/Smith/Patterson doesn't sound crazy to me with the 2QB option. Stafford had a down year last year, but I still think he's somewhere in QB 6-10. He's easily the best piece in the deal.

 
In a 12 team PPR QB flex (can start two 2 QB, but only 4 Points for passing TD vs 6 for receiving/rushing), I made this trade. I got stafford. To give some context, with this trade, he owns 7 picks in top 8 of this draft. What do you all think?

wow, collect all those picks and just give them away like that, pretty sad
I could see paying one of them to get Stafford perhaps - but then two top 3 picks for Moore and Tampa Mike? Way to waste value.
in a "can" start 2 QB league(only 12 teams though so I suspect that the WW has some decent players) I guess Stafford is worth a little more than top 3 but not all 3 of them.

 
In a 12 team PPR QB flex (can start two 2 QB, but only 4 Points for passing TD vs 6 for receiving/rushing), I made this trade. I got stafford. To give some context, with this trade, he owns 7 picks in top 8 of this draft. What do you all think?

wow, collect all those picks and just give them away like that, pretty sad
I could see paying one of them to get Stafford perhaps - but then two top 3 picks for Moore and Tampa Mike? Way to waste value.
It is a 2QB league.

 
In a 12 team PPR QB flex (can start two 2 QB, but only 4 Points for passing TD vs 6 for receiving/rushing), I made this trade. I got stafford. To give some context, with this trade, he owns 7 picks in top 8 of this draft. What do you all think?

wow, collect all those picks and just give them away like that, pretty sad
I could see paying one of them to get Stafford perhaps - but then two top 3 picks for Moore and Tampa Mike? Way to waste value.
in a "can" start 2 QB league(only 12 teams though so I suspect that the WW has some decent players) I guess Stafford is worth a little more than top 3 but not all 3 of them.
Yah, he probably is worth that in a 2QB league. He's a top 15 overall player in 2QB leagues.

 
In a 12 team PPR QB flex (can start two 2 QB, but only 4 Points for passing TD vs 6 for receiving/rushing), I made this trade. I got stafford. To give some context, with this trade, he owns 7 picks in top 8 of this draft. What do you all think?

wow, collect all those picks and just give them away like that, pretty sad
I could see paying one of them to get Stafford perhaps - but then two top 3 picks for Moore and Tampa Mike? Way to waste value.
It is a 2QB league.
I did miss that which definately changes things.

 
Couple start-up trades, 12 team pprTeam A Gave - 7.05 and 2014 1st rounderTeam B Gave - 4.02
That's a long way back for a 2014 1st.
especially when you are giving the team you are getting the first rounder from the benefit of adding an additional impact player to help raise their spot in the final standings during the first season.
yeah, its not too bad in a 12 team, especially if it IDP, but I always like to be on the giving end and not taking end.
I did a similar trade (5.04 to 7.08) for a 2014 1st. It turned out being the 1.02 for the 1.07 and the 1st. Not unhappy with it given the relative weakness of this draft. The 4.02 would have been 1.01 in my startup.

 
In a 12 team PPR QB flex (can start two 2 QB, but only 4 Points for passing TD vs 6 for receiving/rushing), I made this trade. I got stafford. To give some context, with this trade, he owns 7 picks in top 8 of this draft. What do you all think?

wow, collect all those picks and just give them away like that, pretty sad
I could see paying one of them to get Stafford perhaps - but then two top 3 picks for Moore and Tampa Mike? Way to waste value.
It is a 2QB league.
I did miss that which definately changes things.
He then went and did this...

  • Rammer Jammer Crimson Tiders gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.04
  • Warblenagers gave up Ballard, Vick IND RB
 
12 team PPR dynasty:

Aaron Rodgers

2014 1st (projected non playoff team)

for

Andrew Luck

Robert Turbin (other guy has Lynch)

2014 1st (projected playoff team)

 
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12 team PPR dynasty:

Aaron Rodgers

2014 1st (projected non playoff team)

for

Andrew Luck

Robert Turbin (other guy has Lynch)

2014 1st (projected playoff team)
I can't value Luck on par with Rodgers until he starts scoring as many fantasy points. Rodgers has a good 5 years at the very least, and is likely to score more points during that span.

Give me Rodgers.

 
12 team PPR dynasty:

Aaron Rodgers

2014 1st (projected non playoff team)

for

Andrew Luck

Robert Turbin (other guy has Lynch)

2014 1st (projected playoff team)
I can't value Luck on par with Rodgers until he starts scoring as many fantasy points. Rodgers has a good 5 years at the very least, and is likely to score more points during that span.

Give me Rodgers.
Well, if he was currently scoring as many points as Rodgers, he would be twice as valuable as Rodgers.

Rare time a deal may help both teams. It's hard to trade a QB for quality RB/WR/TE because a team doesn't want to weaken themselves. So the next best thing is pick up the best of the young QBs (to me that is Luck, and to a lot of people from what I see).

He probably isn't going to compete now, so why wait until these younger QBs are clearly ahead of Rodgers, at which time he wil be like 32 or 33.

I can't disagree that Rodgers is worth more than Luck. Of course Rodgers is worth more right now..........but if you factor in that he won't compete NOW, then who is more valuable to HIS team.

The part where the picks were swapped for Turbin could probably be looked at as a completely separate deal, as well as Rodgers for Luck straight up.

 
Well, if he was currently scoring as many points as Rodgers, he would be twice as valuable as Rodgers.

Rare time a deal may help both teams. It's hard to trade a QB for quality RB/WR/TE because a team doesn't want to weaken themselves. So the next best thing is pick up the best of the young QBs (to me that is Luck, and to a lot of people from what I see).

He probably isn't going to compete now, so why wait until these younger QBs are clearly ahead of Rodgers, at which time he wil be like 32 or 33.

I can't disagree that Rodgers is worth more than Luck. Of course Rodgers is worth more right now..........but if you factor in that he won't compete NOW, then who is more valuable to HIS team.

The part where the picks were swapped for Turbin could probably be looked at as a completely separate deal, as well as Rodgers for Luck straight up.
This is just my opinion and how I run my teams, but if I am not competing, I am not trading my 1st round draft picks. Any long-term advantage he gets by moving Rodgers for Luck, he surrenders by moving a future top 3 pick.

And how bad would a roster need to be for you to take Luck over Rodgers because of age? That comes into play 5 years from now, and I feel really good about expecting Rodgers to play until 37 – 8 years from now. I have one roster that I took over last year and gutted for draft picks. Awful roster right now. I’d still take Rodgers.

I like Luck a lot as a prospect. But he is still a prospect. The odds that he becomes as productive and consistent as Rodgers are not close to 100%.

Again, this is just my philosophy, but I would have targeted Russell Wilson and kept my draft pick while getting additional assets in return. Assuming his roster is so bad, the guy moved a likely top 3 pick WITH Aaron Rodgers, to get Andrew Luck. I don’t understand the argument that it helps his team at all.

 
Phenix said:
Dr. Octopus said:
jonboltz said:
Dr. Octopus said:
KellysHeroes said:
In a 12 team PPR QB flex (can start two 2 QB, but only 4 Points for passing TD vs 6 for receiving/rushing), I made this trade. I got stafford. To give some context, with this trade, he owns 7 picks in top 8 of this draft. What do you all think?

wow, collect all those picks and just give them away like that, pretty sad
I could see paying one of them to get Stafford perhaps - but then two top 3 picks for Moore and Tampa Mike? Way to waste value.
It is a 2QB league.
I did miss that which definately changes things.
He then went and did this...

  • Rammer Jammer Crimson Tiders gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.04
  • Warblenagers gave up Ballard, Vick IND RB
if Ram had all those picks I think he could of done better than Ballard who might get replaced during this draft

 
So I'm not crazy. I gave Amendola and leaguemates saying I got the short end. Three years is a long time.
I know the ADP data since the Dola signing is limited in volume. But Blackmon is still going a round + earlier, and I have only been looking at PPR leagues.

Crazy like a fox. :thumbup:

 
Some interesting ones in a 12 Team Devy PPR with 6 Pt all TD

Team A Gave: M Ryan, C Givens, Dev 1.6

Team B Gave: M Crabtree

Team C Gave: D McFadden, K Rudolph, A Jeffery, R Randle, D Richardson

Team D Gave: Cal Johnson

 
Some interesting ones in a 12 Team Devy PPR with 6 Pt all TD

Team A Gave: M Ryan, C Givens, Dev 1.6

Team B Gave: M Crabtree

Team C Gave: D McFadden, K Rudolph, A Jeffery, R Randle, D Richardson

Team D Gave: Cal Johnson
I like the Crabtree and Clavin sides.

 
Some interesting ones in a 12 Team Devy PPR with 6 Pt all TD

Team A Gave: M Ryan, C Givens, Dev 1.6

Team B Gave: M Crabtree

Team C Gave: D McFadden, K Rudolph, A Jeffery, R Randle, D Richardson

Team D Gave: Cal Johnson
Wow, talk about selling short on CJ.....awful IMO.

 
Some interesting ones in a 12 Team Devy PPR with 6 Pt all TD

Team A Gave: M Ryan, C Givens, Dev 1.6

Team B Gave: M Crabtree

Team C Gave: D McFadden, K Rudolph, A Jeffery, R Randle, D Richardson

Team D Gave: Cal Johnson
I would want at least one decent player back if I trade Calvin.

 
Really happy with this one--full rookie fever in effect I think. Our rookie draft just started ten minutes ago.

14 team PPR

Gave:

2.1

3.1

Got:

Cecil Shorts

3.5

 
Team Alpha gives:RomoJarius WrightTeam Bravo gives:RiversJ. Stewart
Depends on rosters and QB scoring but Romo is the best player in the trade. The unknowns on the Rivers/JStewart side are too many for me to give up a solid QB1.

I wouldn't make the deal as both a bounce back from Rivers and a healthy season from Stewart are almost required. Unless Romo team has a solid QB behind him and is desperate for a RB I wouldn't do it.

 
Really happy with this one--full rookie fever in effect I think. Our rookie draft just started ten minutes ago.

14 team PPR

Gave:

2.1

3.1

Got:

Cecil Shorts

3.5
Wow. Very little value back for Shorts, who I think is a dynasty WR2 right now. You'd be lucky to get a future WR2 with just about any WR in this draft, let alone one picked at 2.1.

 
Really happy with this one--full rookie fever in effect I think. Our rookie draft just started ten minutes ago.

14 team PPR

Gave:

2.1

3.1

Got:

Cecil Shorts

3.5
Wow. Very little value back for Shorts, who I think is a dynasty WR2 right now. You'd be lucky to get a future WR2 with just about any WR in this draft, let alone one picked at 2.1.
Just what I was thinking. He posted that he'd take a 1st for Shorts, so I threw this offer out there. To me this says that he didn't see ANY Jax games this year or he would have seen Shorts look like the real deal. Either way, the odds of getting someone that can match his production at the 15th overall pick...let's just say I'm very happy about my side.

 
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12 team PPR dynasty:

Aaron Rodgers

2014 1st (projected non playoff team)

for

Andrew Luck

Robert Turbin (other guy has Lynch)

2014 1st (projected playoff team)
I can't value Luck on par with Rodgers until he starts scoring as many fantasy points. Rodgers has a good 5 years at the very least, and is likely to score more points during that span.

Give me Rodgers.
My concern is with Rodgers and Lynch but the team can't make the playoffs. I don't see Turbin Luck and a worse 1st round draft choice helping that change. I like Luck and having the Lynch handcuff is useful but no way they are worth Rodgers.

Rodgers is still the stud in this deal and as good as Luck may be someday I would have traded Luck Turbin and my first for Rodgers without thinking about it.

Nice deal for the guy getting Rodgers.

 
KellysHeroes said:
Dr. Octopus said:
KellysHeroes said:
In a 12 team PPR QB flex (can start two 2 QB, but only 4 Points for passing TD vs 6 for receiving/rushing), I made this trade. I got stafford. To give some context, with this trade, he owns 7 picks in top 8 of this draft. What do you all think?

wow, collect all those picks and just give them away like that, pretty sad
I could see paying one of them to get Stafford perhaps - but then two top 3 picks for Moore and Tampa Mike? Way to waste value.
in a "can" start 2 QB league(only 12 teams though so I suspect that the WW has some decent players) I guess Stafford is worth a little more than top 3 but not all 3 of them.
There are no QBs left on WW. The best available are Matt Cassel and Hasselback...just to give you an idea

 
12 Team PPR League:

Gave:Marshall, Jennings, Vernon

Got:

Julio Jones
I think Julio is elite, but he's not going to match Marshall's short term production any time soon, in my opinion, which makes this deal close.

The trade works based on ADP, so it's a good price to pay for Julio, based on market value. And if I was stacked and had the luxury of making this move, I'd likely do it. But for most rosters, I'd take Marshall, Jennings, and Davis.

 

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