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2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (3 Viewers)

Team A Gave - 1.07, 2014 1st and 2ndTeam B Gave - Demarco MurrayI am the team who gained murray. I have a strong team at all other positions, and desperately needed another rb other than charles.
So you are giving up a 1.07 and probably a late round 2014 1st and 2nd. That is not that much of an overpayment (if any) for an undisputed starter like Murray.
Nope. Thats a hell of a deal to get Murray I think.

 
Team A Gave - 1.07, 2014 1st and 2ndTeam B Gave - Demarco MurrayI am the team who gained murray. I have a strong team at all other positions, and desperately needed another rb other than charles.
So you are giving up a 1.07 and probably a late round 2014 1st and 2nd. That is not that much of an overpayment (if any) for an undisputed starter like Murray.
Nope. Thats a hell of a deal to get Murray I think.
Agree.

 
12 team, 25 roster ppr.

Team A gives Randall Cobb and 2013 6th overall rookie picK

team be gives Mike Wallace and 2013 12th overall rookie pick.

 
12 Team PPR QRRWWTKD + 2 Flex, one flex can be a QB

Team Echo gives:

Cobb

Team Foxtrot gives:

Jon Stewart

Ingram

1.04

1.11

 
12 Team PPR QRRWWTKD + 2 Flex, one flex can be a QB

Team Echo gives:

Cobb

Team Foxtrot gives:

Jon Stewart

Ingram

1.04

1.11
I normally prefer the most valuable player in a trade; but I think Cobb is overvalued, and this is quite a lot to give up for him.

 
12 Team PPR QRRWWTKD + 2 Flex, one flex can be a QB

Team Echo gives:

Cobb

Team Foxtrot gives:

Jon Stewart

Ingram

1.04

1.11
I normally prefer the most valuable player in a trade; but I think Cobb is overvalued, and this is quite a lot to give up for him.
Only start 2 with one non-QB flex spot - this is a lot to pay. In a more traditional league, I'd likely make the deal. In this format, not so sure.

 
12 Team PPR QRRWWTKD + 2 Flex, one flex can be a QB

Team Echo gives:

Cobb

Team Foxtrot gives:

Jon Stewart

Ingram

1.04

1.11
I normally prefer the most valuable player in a trade; but I think Cobb is overvalued, and this is quite a lot to give up for him.
Only start 2 with one non-QB flex spot - this is a lot to pay. In a more traditional league, I'd likely make the deal. In this format, not so sure.
Yeah, I'm thinking both Austin and Patterson will be there at 1.4, someone like Hopkins or Manuel is there at 1.11, and flip Stewart for a 2014 1st. It turns into a lot of pieces with very high upside. I like Cobb but would probably cash out for this in this format.

 
Sabertooth said:
recent trades in a start 2QB league.

Michael Crabtree for Sam Bradford
I think this is why I wouldn't enjoy 2QB leagues - and I'm not bashing those that do. It just seems that player values get so out of whack.

I think QBs are already important enough in start 1 QB leagues (although I know some would argue otherwise), but in 2QB leagues it seems like they are all that really matters to some extent.

 
Sabertooth said:
recent trades in a start 2QB league.

Michael Crabtree for Sam Bradford
I think this is why I wouldn't enjoy 2QB leagues - and I'm not bashing those that do. It just seems that player values get so out of whack.

I think QBs are already important enough in start 1 QB leagues (although I know some would argue otherwise), but in 2QB leagues it seems like they are all that really matters to some extent.
I agree, some. But I think they are undervalued in 1QB leagues, at least if we're comparing them to true NFL value.

 
Sabertooth said:
recent trades in a start 2QB league. Michael Crabtree for Sam Bradford
I think this is why I wouldn't enjoy 2QB leagues - and I'm not bashing those that do. It just seems that player values get so out of whack. I think QBs are already important enough in start 1 QB leagues (although I know some would argue otherwise), but in 2QB leagues it seems like they are all that really matters to some extent.
I play in a 10-team, 2QB league. I think that's the sweet spot for "proper" QB value. ...or QB flex leagues with deflated QB scoring.
 
Sabertooth said:
recent trades in a start 2QB league.

Michael Crabtree for Sam Bradford
I think this is why I wouldn't enjoy 2QB leagues - and I'm not bashing those that do. It just seems that player values get so out of whack.

I think QBs are already important enough in start 1 QB leagues (although I know some would argue otherwise), but in 2QB leagues it seems like they are all that really matters to some extent.
Well, it is kind of in-line for the NFL a bit in that respect, as Bradford is worth a whole lot more to an actual NFL team than Crabtree.

 
Big deal went down this morning

14 team dynasty PPR(.75/1/1.25) with devys

Team A Gave:

Gronk

Lacy

Keenan Allen

Team B Gave:

Foster

Ben Tate

Marqise Lee

Greg Jennings

Rudolph

 
Sabertooth said:
recent trades in a start 2QB league.

Michael Crabtree for Sam Bradford
I think this is why I wouldn't enjoy 2QB leagues - and I'm not bashing those that do. It just seems that player values get so out of whack.

I think QBs are already important enough in start 1 QB leagues (although I know some would argue otherwise), but in 2QB leagues it seems like they are all that really matters to some extent.
Well, it is kind of in-line for the NFL a bit in that respect, as Bradford is worth a whole lot more to an actual NFL team than Crabtree.
I suppose that makes sense, especially if you consider the draft position of each.

 
Sabertooth said:
recent trades in a start 2QB league.

Michael Crabtree for Sam Bradford
I think this is why I wouldn't enjoy 2QB leagues - and I'm not bashing those that do. It just seems that player values get so out of whack.

I think QBs are already important enough in start 1 QB leagues (although I know some would argue otherwise), but in 2QB leagues it seems like they are all that really matters to some extent.
Well, it is kind of in-line for the NFL a bit in that respect, as Bradford is worth a whole lot more to an actual NFL team than Crabtree.
I suppose that makes sense, especially if you consider the draft position of each.
To underscore that point, go to the "Build a franchise" thread. Bradford 1.20, Crabtree 3.21.

The reverse is true of standard fantasy leagues right? We value RB so highly when a lot of NFL teams burn through them like magazines.

 
Start 1 qb/2rb/3wr/1te/1flex(any)/idp

  • .Spin gave up Casey, James PHI TE
  • The Thundering Nerd gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04
Although I'm intrigued by Casey, he would have been a tough roster choice. This makes it easy for me.

 
Start 1 qb/2rb/3wr/1te/1flex(any)/idp

  • .Spin gave up Casey, James PHI TE
  • The Thundering Nerd gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.04
Although I'm intrigued by Casey, he would have been a tough roster choice. This makes it easy for me.
If it's superflex, this is a terrible overpay. Even if it's not, his value is closer to a late 3rd or 4th.

 
Cobb was kept OFF of returns late last yr even when he came back healthy.

Jeremy Ross may be the favorite to handle that role next season. Despite his fumble in the postseason, Ross was impressive when he got his shot.

McCarthy's Thoughts

Same league as above, interestingly this happens shortly after.

Team A gives

Randall Cobb

4.14

Team B gives

Percy Harvin
Harvin for me also
The one big thing that could swing it to Cobb is the word Return Yards that he put up. How big are return yards because this is where Cobb passes alot of WR's. I too think Harvin is overrated.
Harvin returns kicks - well he did in Minny at least.
 
12 Team PPR QRRWWTKD + 2 Flex, one flex can be a QB Team Echo gives: Cobb Team Foxtrot gives: Jon StewartIngram1.041.11
I normally prefer the most valuable player in a trade; but I think Cobb is overvalued, and this is quite a lot to give up for him.
Only start 2 with one non-QB flex spot - this is a lot to pay. In a more traditional league, I'd likely make the deal. In this format, not so sure.
Yeah, I'm thinking both Austin and Patterson will be there at 1.4, someone like Hopkins or Manuel is there at 1.11, and flip Stewart for a 2014 1st. It turns into a lot of pieces with very high upside. I like Cobb but would probably cash out for this in this format.
This is an interesting trade to look at. In the exact same format I just turned down 1.02 and Ryan Mathews for Cobb, but came very, very close to accepting. In the end, I just didn't trust Mathews enough to pull the trigger.
 
Team A Gave - 1.07, 2014 1st and 2ndTeam B Gave - Demarco MurrayI am the team who gained murray. I have a strong team at all other positions, and desperately needed another rb other than charles.
So you are giving up a 1.07 and probably a late round 2014 1st and 2nd. That is not that much of an overpayment (if any) for an undisputed starter like Murray.
Nope. Thats a hell of a deal to get Murray I think.
Yes.

 
12 team PPR

Gave: J. Finley

Got: Fleener and the 1.10
Great, great get here. I'm not a Fleener fan really, but the 1.10 alone would have been great. That's going to get you Eifert in some leagues. I moved Finley for 2.1 and 3.1, but in a 14 team league, a month ago and was ecstatic.

 
12 Team 1 PPR

Team A gave - Rashard Mendenhall/Ryan Williams/2.05

Team B gave - Reggie Bush/Santonio Holmes

The team getting Reggie already had Leshoure so he has the Detroit backfield locked up (and now Santonio Holmes), and Team B now has the AZ backfield locked up (plus the 2.05 and three other 2nds in a rookie/devy draft)

 
12 team PPR

Gave: J. Finley

Got: Fleener and the 1.10
1.10 could be eifert or could be swapped for a 2014 1st which could be Seferian-Jenkins, so yeah that side.
In my 2 dynasty leagues there is no way Eifert lasts outside the 1.5. So now your looking at Ertz or a pick next year that might get Jenkins but again in my leagues, I highly doubt it. So give me Finley still in this deal.

The 2.1 and 3.1 is a deal I would give to get him in my leagues in 2 seconds. But maybe more emphasis on TE in those.

 
12 team PPR

Gave: J. Finley

Got: Fleener and the 1.10
1.10 could be eifert or could be swapped for a 2014 1st which could be Seferian-Jenkins, so yeah that side.
In my 2 dynasty leagues there is no way Eifert lasts outside the 1.5. So now your looking at Ertz or a pick next year that might get Jenkins but again in my leagues, I highly doubt it. So give me Finley still in this deal.
If Eifert doesn't last then someone like Hopkins or Rodgers or a 3rd round RB will be there, which is also as good as Finley.

 
Dynasy league

Traded Vince Jackson for Decker. Decided to take the few extra years in age, and the fact that Decker is a FA after next year and I like him to cash in.

 
Same league Gave: Mathews and Ingram Got: Spiller

12 Team PPR Gave: Reggie Bush and Steven Jackson Got: Ray Rice
That's ridiculous
Yeah, even if that league doesn't have a vote to reverse trades, I would push for it and make this the first one. Real stupid deal.

Much like any trade it's POSSIBLE the Mathews/Ingram side ends up better, but that is about the same chances as trading AJ Green for Josh Gordon and Brandon Lafell and hoping for the best. This is a real bad one

 
Same league Gave: Mathews and Ingram Got: Spiller

12 Team PPR Gave: Reggie Bush and Steven Jackson Got: Ray Rice
That's ridiculous
Yeah, even if that league doesn't have a vote to reverse trades, I would push for it and make this the first one. Real stupid deal. Much like any trade it's POSSIBLE the Mathews/Ingram side ends up better, but that is about the same chances as trading AJ Green for Josh Gordon and Brandon Lafell and hoping for the best. This is a real bad one
 
Dynasy league

Traded Vince Jackson for Decker. Decided to take the few extra years in age, and the fact that Decker is a FA after next year and I like him to cash in.
Decker may plunge after free agency if he goes to the wrong team. He's a possession guy who is highly TD dependent; if he goes to a bad offense, beware.

 
Same league Gave: Mathews and Ingram Got: Spiller

12 Team PPR Gave: Reggie Bush and Steven Jackson Got: Ray Rice
That's ridiculous
Yeah, even if that league doesn't have a vote to reverse trades, I would push for it and make this the first one. Real stupid deal.

Much like any trade it's POSSIBLE the Mathews/Ingram side ends up better, but that is about the same chances as trading AJ Green for Josh Gordon and Brandon Lafell and hoping for the best. This is a real bad one
Neither of those are remotely vetoeable.

 
Same league Gave: Mathews and Ingram Got: Spiller

12 Team PPR Gave: Reggie Bush and Steven Jackson Got: Ray Rice
That's ridiculous
Yeah, even if that league doesn't have a vote to reverse trades, I would push for it and make this the first one. Real stupid deal. Much like any trade it's POSSIBLE the Mathews/Ingram side ends up better, but that is about the same chances as trading AJ Green for Josh Gordon and Brandon Lafell and hoping for the best. This is a real bad one
not reversal but bad
 
Same league Gave: Mathews and Ingram Got: Spiller

12 Team PPR Gave: Reggie Bush and Steven Jackson Got: Ray Rice
That's ridiculous
Yeah, even if that league doesn't have a vote to reverse trades, I would push for it and make this the first one. Real stupid deal. Much like any trade it's POSSIBLE the Mathews/Ingram side ends up better, but that is about the same chances as trading AJ Green for Josh Gordon and Brandon Lafell and hoping for the best. This is a real bad one
not reversal but bad
You guys really hate Mathews. I'll take him - I wouldn't make this trade because I also LOVE Spiller, but it's nowhere near as bad as yall are making it out to be...

 
I would take the Spiller side as well, but this could be one of those examples of the consensus being wrong when it is played out.

Not veto worthy IMO.

 
It blows me away what some people think is vetoable. In fact we vote on trades in this league and it went through in just a couple of hours with 7-0 vote.

 

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