2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (3 Viewers)

[Concept Coop]

Trade completed last night. I thought this was a pretty cheap price to pay for Gronkowski.

New Orleans Saints gave up:

Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE

Weatherspoon, Sean ATL LB

Atlanta Falcons gave up:

Broyles, Ryan DET WR

Kuechly, Luke CAR LB

Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.04

Year 2013 Draft Pick 5.01

I wish I didn't own Gronk most places, so I could buy at this rate...

 

[kutta]

Trade completed last night. I thought this was a pretty cheap price to pay for Gronkowski.

New Orleans Saints gave up:

Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE

Weatherspoon, Sean ATL LB

Atlanta Falcons gave up:

Broyles, Ryan DET WR

Kuechly, Luke CAR LB

Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.04

Year 2013 Draft Pick 5.01

I wish I didn't own Gronk most places, so I could buy at this rate...

Believe me, you can't buy him at that rate in most leagues. I've tried buying and his owners are usually not selling.

 

[cstu]

No, this is actually a classic of example of being willing to pay for a player you like and believe in. Again, the value of a player is determined by the league. I'm in this league and I'm quite sure that Peso has been trying to sell AP for a while now. It's not about what he might be able to get later. It's more about Blackmon and what his value might continue to do. His owner valued him as a top 10 WR (as do I and many others) and was not going to sell him without a significant payment. This was the kind of offer it would take to get Blackmon and there's nothing wrong at all with paying that if it's a player you want to own. Factor in that each of these player's values are going in the opposite direction and it made more sense to do it now. If Jax actually obtains a QB, then Blackmon's value goes even higher.

And while the near consensus here is that AP should have fetched far more, not only do I disagree with that, but getting the pick was a huge bonus to me as I would pay AP straight up for Blackmon without thinking twice. Just goes to show the variability in owner's valuations of players. I don't see AP outscoring Blackmon beyond this year in a 1 ppr format when Peterson will be close to 30 in 2014 and Blackmon will be hitting his prime. With it being a 1 RB start league, RB scarcity isn't as important.

I actually agree with this. The format is huge. It's a start 1 league - meaning, you have to start comparing positions across the board, and not just within position. Meaning, Brandon Marshall should be as valuable as Adrian Peterson, if not more. He's less likely to miss time due to injury, and more likely to last into his 30's, due to the positions that they play. In the meantime, he's likely to score on pace with Peterson. The advantage that Peterson gets for being a RB is largely tossed out the window.

If Blackmon is a top 10 WR - and that's a logical stance - this is a fair trade.

You guys are both right, this is what AP is worth in this format. However, you do need to start one and top RB's are hard to come by. In the last 11 games last year AP outscored the #3 RB by 7 PPG. I'm normally not a fan of RB's in this type of league but I believe AP is unique RB and if anyone is going to play well past 30 it's him. If a guys like Curtis Martin and Thomas Jones can put up 1700 and 1400 yard seasons at age 31 I think AP can do it too.

 

[JPeso]

No, this is actually a classic of example of being willing to pay for a player you like and believe in. Again, the value of a player is determined by the league. I'm in this league and I'm quite sure that Peso has been trying to sell AP for a while now. It's not about what he might be able to get later. It's more about Blackmon and what his value might continue to do. His owner valued him as a top 10 WR (as do I and many others) and was not going to sell him without a significant payment. This was the kind of offer it would take to get Blackmon and there's nothing wrong at all with paying that if it's a player you want to own. Factor in that each of these player's values are going in the opposite direction and it made more sense to do it now. If Jax actually obtains a QB, then Blackmon's value goes even higher.

And while the near consensus here is that AP should have fetched far more, not only do I disagree with that, but getting the pick was a huge bonus to me as I would pay AP straight up for Blackmon without thinking twice. Just goes to show the variability in owner's valuations of players. I don't see AP outscoring Blackmon beyond this year in a 1 ppr format when Peterson will be close to 30 in 2014 and Blackmon will be hitting his prime. With it being a 1 RB start league, RB scarcity isn't as important.

I actually agree with this. The format is huge. It's a start 1 league - meaning, you have to start comparing positions across the board, and not just within position. Meaning, Brandon Marshall should be as valuable as Adrian Peterson, if not more. He's less likely to miss time due to injury, and more likely to last into his 30's, due to the positions that they play. In the meantime, he's likely to score on pace with Peterson. The advantage that Peterson gets for being a RB is largely tossed out the window.

If Blackmon is a top 10 WR - and that's a logical stance - this is a fair trade.

You guys are both right, this is what AP is worth in this format. However, you do need to start one and top RB's are hard to come by. In the last 11 games last year AP outscored the #3 RB by 7 PPG. I'm normally not a fan of RB's in this type of league but I believe AP is unique RB and if anyone is going to play well past 30 it's him. If a guys like Curtis Martin and Thomas Jones can put up 1700 and 1400 yard seasons at age 31 I think AP can do it too.

For the record I think he outscores Blackmon at least another two years. If any back in history can do it more than those two years, it's him. And as you allude, you had no shot at gold with Gore as your RB1 in the limited starter format.

 

[The_Head_Ape]

10 team; Start-2-QB; IDP

Rare 3-way deal....

Team A (Loves picks) gets:

From C: 1.1 and NBowman

Team B (needs QB badly) gets:

From A: JFreeman

From C: MIngram, 2.9 and 3.7

Team C (wants RB depth) gets:

From B: Ridley, Pierce, Mallett, 2.1, 3.2, 4.9

From A: 2014 3rd

 

[Concept Coop]

You guys are both right, this is what AP is worth in this format. However, you do need to start one and top RB's are hard to come by. In the last 11 games last year AP outscored the #3 RB by 7 PPG. I'm normally not a fan of RB's in this type of league but I believe AP is unique RB and if anyone is going to play well past 30 it's him. If a guys like Curtis Martin and Thomas Jones can put up 1700 and 1400 yard seasons at age 31 I think AP can do it too.

I agree. I think the trade is fair, so if you needed a RB, good deal for you. I just don't think it was the sell low on AP that it would have been in a start 2 league.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Trade completed last night. I thought this was a pretty cheap price to pay for Gronkowski.

New Orleans Saints gave up:

Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE

Weatherspoon, Sean ATL LB

Atlanta Falcons gave up:

Broyles, Ryan DET WR

Kuechly, Luke CAR LB

Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.04

Year 2013 Draft Pick 5.01

I wish I didn't own Gronk most places, so I could buy at this rate...

Believe me, you can't buy him at that rate in most leagues. I've tried buying and his owners are usually not selling.

 

[matttyl]

non ppr league, but bonus at 5, 8 and 10 receptions

A gives Crabtree

B gives Forte

 

[djb916420]

12 Team PPR League

Gave: Shorts

Got: 1.09

 

[ghostguy123]

No, this is actually a classic of example of being willing to pay for a player you like and believe in. Again, the value of a player is determined by the league. I'm in this league and I'm quite sure that Peso has been trying to sell AP for a while now. It's not about what he might be able to get later. It's more about Blackmon and what his value might continue to do. His owner valued him as a top 10 WR (as do I and many others) and was not going to sell him without a significant payment. This was the kind of offer it would take to get Blackmon and there's nothing wrong at all with paying that if it's a player you want to own. Factor in that each of these player's values are going in the opposite direction and it made more sense to do it now. If Jax actually obtains a QB, then Blackmon's value goes even higher.

And while the near consensus here is that AP should have fetched far more, not only do I disagree with that, but getting the pick was a huge bonus to me as I would pay AP straight up for Blackmon without thinking twice. Just goes to show the variability in owner's valuations of players. I don't see AP outscoring Blackmon beyond this year in a 1 ppr format when Peterson will be close to 30 in 2014 and Blackmon will be hitting his prime. With it being a 1 RB start league, RB scarcity isn't as important.

I actually agree with this. The format is huge. It's a start 1 league - meaning, you have to start comparing positions across the board, and not just within position. Meaning, Brandon Marshall should be as valuable as Adrian Peterson, if not more. He's less likely to miss time due to injury, and more likely to last into his 30's, due to the positions that they play. In the meantime, he's likely to score on pace with Peterson. The advantage that Peterson gets for being a RB is largely tossed out the window.

If Blackmon is a top 10 WR - and that's a logical stance - this is a fair trade.

Forget the lower value of the RB position due to the format for a second. Peterson is a good bet to score 300 for the next 2-3 years. Blackmon is definitely not, and especially not without a legit QB.

Now of course, three years from now will be a whole different ballgame. But if you are going in that direction and not playing to win now or the next couple years, then fine.

But AP in my mind is going to score about 150 more points than Blackmon over the next coupe years, maybe 200 over the next 3. Maybe some disagree with that, maybe some think he will score MORE than 200 more over the next three years.

So whether or not the RB position is devalued, that's a hell of a lot of point differential, and the guy who just got Peterson got one hell of a lot better for the next few years.

As for the person who mentioned Brandon Marshall as about the same value as Peterson, yes that makes sense. But no, I still dont see him as valuable as AP. Pretty close though.

 

[menobrown]

Speaking of Blackmon this trade went down late last night in my league. One of the people in this trade posts in here so I was going to let him post his trade but I'll just go ahead:

Team A gave: Ray Rice

Team B gave: RG3 and Justin Blackmon

In a vacuum not sure what you all think of the trade but the team that gave up RG3 and Blackmon could write a book on how not to manage a dynasty team.

 

[solorca]

I play in the same league, and while i think the price was too low for ap, i understand the thought process. I won my conference last year with BJGE as my second rb, and rarely ever used him.

If you have a solid rb1, thats really all you need.

 

[ghostguy123]

I play in the same league, and while i think the price was too low for ap, i understand the thought process. I won my conference last year with BJGE as my second rb, and rarely ever used him.If you have a solid rb1, thats really all you need.

So Peterson scoring 300 to Blackmons 210 this year isn't a huge bonus?? That can easily be the difference between the 5th seed and a bye week.

 

[ghostguy123]

Speaking of Blackmon this trade went down late last night in my league. One of the people in this trade posts in here so I was going to let him post his trade but I'll just go ahead:

Team A gave: Ray Rice

Team B gave: RG3 and Justin Blackmon

In a vacuum not sure what you all think of the trade but the team that gave up RG3 and Blackmon could write a book on how not to manage a dynasty team.

I saw this one. The value of the trade seems fine. What is Rice in a startup right now, late 1st?? What is RG3 and Blackmon, both maybe 3rd-4th rounders?

If you have another good QB and strong WRs, this is the kind of move that can win you the title for a couple years getting Rice.

On the other hand, if you don't have a top end QB and aren't real strong at WR, getting Rice doesnt do anything for you here, so I would take the youth part if I am not winning now and 2014.

I really can't say which side I would take. I can think of a scenario where I would prefer each

 

[ghostguy123]

I tell ya what though, I LOVE the Blackmon talk, considering I traded pick 2 for him about a week ago. I thought I was real high on him, wow, I guess a lot of people are twice as high as I am, lol. Good to hear.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

I tell ya what though, I LOVE the Blackmon talk, considering I traded pick 2 for him about a week ago. I thought I was real high on him, wow, I guess a lot of people are twice as high as I am, lol. Good to hear.

I would really like to hear the persons reasoning for trading Blackmon for 1.2. Makes no sense to me

 

[Concept Coop]

No, this is actually a classic of example of being willing to pay for a player you like and believe in. Again, the value of a player is determined by the league. I'm in this league and I'm quite sure that Peso has been trying to sell AP for a while now. It's not about what he might be able to get later. It's more about Blackmon and what his value might continue to do. His owner valued him as a top 10 WR (as do I and many others) and was not going to sell him without a significant payment. This was the kind of offer it would take to get Blackmon and there's nothing wrong at all with paying that if it's a player you want to own. Factor in that each of these player's values are going in the opposite direction and it made more sense to do it now. If Jax actually obtains a QB, then Blackmon's value goes even higher.

And while the near consensus here is that AP should have fetched far more, not only do I disagree with that, but getting the pick was a huge bonus to me as I would pay AP straight up for Blackmon without thinking twice. Just goes to show the variability in owner's valuations of players. I don't see AP outscoring Blackmon beyond this year in a 1 ppr format when Peterson will be close to 30 in 2014 and Blackmon will be hitting his prime. With it being a 1 RB start league, RB scarcity isn't as important.

I actually agree with this. The format is huge. It's a start 1 league - meaning, you have to start comparing positions across the board, and not just within position. Meaning, Brandon Marshall should be as valuable as Adrian Peterson, if not more. He's less likely to miss time due to injury, and more likely to last into his 30's, due to the positions that they play. In the meantime, he's likely to score on pace with Peterson. The advantage that Peterson gets for being a RB is largely tossed out the window.

If Blackmon is a top 10 WR - and that's a logical stance - this is a fair trade.

Forget the lower value of the RB position due to the format for a second. Peterson is a good bet to score 300 for the next 2-3 years. Blackmon is definitely not, and especially not without a legit QB.

Now of course, three years from now will be a whole different ballgame. But if you are going in that direction and not playing to win now or the next couple years, then fine.

But AP in my mind is going to score about 150 more points than Blackmon over the next coupe years, maybe 200 over the next 3. Maybe some disagree with that, maybe some think he will score MORE than 200 more over the next three years.

So whether or not the RB position is devalued, that's a hell of a lot of point differential, and the guy who just got Peterson got one hell of a lot better for the next few years.

As for the person who mentioned Brandon Marshall as about the same value as Peterson, yes that makes sense. But no, I still dont see him as valuable as AP. Pretty close though.

I think Peterson's numbers come down and Blackmon's go up a great deal. Peterson will outscore him, but he certainly won't double him. But Blackmon's career will likely more than double AP's remaining career. It's about balance in dynasty formtats, in my opinion. Peterson helps you win more now, Blackmon helps you win more once Peterson's window closes. If you think Blackon is a WR1 for most of his career, he likely eventually catches up to Peterson in career VBD provided. For some of my teams, I'd take the Peterson side. For others, I'd consider Blackmon a good haul for Peterson, in this format.

And, as I said, I am not saying the Blackmon side won the deal, just that it's fair. If you don't like Blackmon to score as much as ADP, add a little to get Marshall who will. Peterson ran for 2,000 and scored within a PPG of Marshall. He won't run for 2,000 yards again, in my opinion.

 

[cstu]

No, this is actually a classic of example of being willing to pay for a player you like and believe in. Again, the value of a player is determined by the league. I'm in this league and I'm quite sure that Peso has been trying to sell AP for a while now. It's not about what he might be able to get later. It's more about Blackmon and what his value might continue to do. His owner valued him as a top 10 WR (as do I and many others) and was not going to sell him without a significant payment. This was the kind of offer it would take to get Blackmon and there's nothing wrong at all with paying that if it's a player you want to own. Factor in that each of these player's values are going in the opposite direction and it made more sense to do it now. If Jax actually obtains a QB, then Blackmon's value goes even higher. And while the near consensus here is that AP should have fetched far more, not only do I disagree with that, but getting the pick was a huge bonus to me as I would pay AP straight up for Blackmon without thinking twice. Just goes to show the variability in owner's valuations of players. I don't see AP outscoring Blackmon beyond this year in a 1 ppr format when Peterson will be close to 30 in 2014 and Blackmon will be hitting his prime. With it being a 1 RB start league, RB scarcity isn't as important.

I actually agree with this. The format is huge. It's a start 1 league - meaning, you have to start comparing positions across the board, and not just within position. Meaning, Brandon Marshall should be as valuable as Adrian Peterson, if not more. He's less likely to miss time due to injury, and more likely to last into his 30's, due to the positions that they play. In the meantime, he's likely to score on pace with Peterson. The advantage that Peterson gets for being a RB is largely tossed out the window. If Blackmon is a top 10 WR - and that's a logical stance - this is a fair trade.

Forget the lower value of the RB position due to the format for a second. Peterson is a good bet to score 300 for the next 2-3 years. Blackmon is definitely not, and especially not without a legit QB. Now of course, three years from now will be a whole different ballgame. But if you are going in that direction and not playing to win now or the next couple years, then fine. But AP in my mind is going to score about 150 more points than Blackmon over the next coupe years, maybe 200 over the next 3. Maybe some disagree with that, maybe some think he will score MORE than 200 more over the next three years. So whether or not the RB position is devalued, that's a hell of a lot of point differential, and the guy who just got Peterson got one hell of a lot better for the next few years. As for the person who mentioned Brandon Marshall as about the same value as Peterson, yes that makes sense. But no, I still dont see him as valuable as AP. Pretty close though.

I think Peterson's numbers come down and Blackmon's go up a great deal. Peterson will outscore him, but he certainly won't double him. But Blackmon's career will likely more than double AP's remaining career. It's about balance in dynasty formtats, in my opinion. Peterson helps you win more now, Blackmon helps you win more once Peterson's window closes. If you think Blackon is a WR1 for most of his career, he likely eventually catches up to Peterson in career VBD provided. For some of my teams, I'd take the Peterson side. For others, I'd consider Blackmon a good haul for Peterson, in this format. And, as I said, I am not saying the Blackmon side won the deal, just that it's fair. If you don't like Blackmon to score as much as ADP, add a little to get Marshall who will. Peterson ran for 2,000 and scored within a PPG of Marshall. He won't run for 2,000 yards again, in my opinion.

With Forte healthy, Jeffery's growth and the addition of Bennett I don't think Marshall gets 192 targets again. I'm also not sold that he'll keep his head on straight long enough to play much longer than Peterson.

 

[Concept Coop]

With Forte healthy, Jeffery's growth and the addition of Bennett I don't think Marshall gets 192 targets again. I'm also not sold that he'll keep his head on straight long enough to play much longer than Peterson.

2012 was simply his average target per game while playing Culter. It might not be 192, but it will be top 3 in the NFL. And the Bears will be passing more, too. The changes to the offense go both ways; Marshall won't get as big a slice, but the pie will be bigger. There is also room for his per target numbers to improve, if defenses have to respect Chicago's other options. Marshall is PPR gold with Cutler at QB. I dont' see that changing anytime soon. Aside from Calvin, I think he's the safest bet at the position for PPR points over the next 3 years.

And I don't see Marshall's career being cut short due to off the field stuff. Not enough for me to consider it when trading for him, or projecting his production, at least. He could talk or act his way out of Chicago and still find teams lining up to acquire him.

 

[menobrown]

Speaking of Blackmon this trade went down late last night in my league. One of the people in this trade posts in here so I was going to let him post his trade but I'll just go ahead:

Team A gave: Ray Rice

Team B gave: RG3 and Justin Blackmon

In a vacuum not sure what you all think of the trade but the team that gave up RG3 and Blackmon could write a book on how not to manage a dynasty team.

I saw this one. The value of the trade seems fine. What is Rice in a startup right now, late 1st?? What is RG3 and Blackmon, both maybe 3rd-4th rounders?

If you have another good QB and strong WRs, this is the kind of move that can win you the title for a couple years getting Rice.

On the other hand, if you don't have a top end QB and aren't real strong at WR, getting Rice doesnt do anything for you here, so I would take the youth part if I am not winning now and 2014.

I really can't say which side I would take. I can think of a scenario where I would prefer each

Yes I'm higher on RG3 than most and more down on Rice than the majority but in a vacuum the trade is fair to me.

The reason I keep referencing the vacuum part is the horrible job the team did that traded for Rice. They had pick 1.2, 1.4 and 1.5 in last years rookie draft. The team sucks and has needs all over. The layup move was to pick Martin at 1.2. At 1.4 or 1.5 you would be guaranteed of either Luck or RG3 and/or both or Blackmon. Instead this team took RG3 at 1.2 and Luck and Blackmon at the 4 and 5. So now instead of having Doug Martin and Blackmon on a rebuilding team(heck the team would have been built with those two and Luck) he turned that 1.2 and 1.5 into Ray Rice.

If that's not bad enough this team as now is not competitive with Rice so while I think the value of the trade is fair it's just poor team building. He should have at least found a way to get Pearce in the deal.

Not that I minded seeing the trade go down. The team getting Rice is not a threat and the team that got RG3 and Blackmon is the best team in the league but they already have Cam, both NE TE's, and 3 WR's that are easily better than Blackmon with Garcon as #4 so they might have given up Rice and not got a weekly starter while creating a hole at RB2. But this is April so I'm not getting excited about it either as I'm sure this is just the beginning of his dealing.

 

[ghostguy123]

Yes I'm higher on RG3 than most and more down on Rice than the majority but in a vacuum the trade is fair to me.

The reason I keep referencing the vacuum part is the horrible job the team did that traded for Rice. They had pick 1.2, 1.4 and 1.5 in last years rookie draft. The team sucks and has needs all over. The layup move was to pick Martin at 1.2. At 1.4 or 1.5 you would be guaranteed of either Luck or RG3 and/or both or Blackmon. Instead this team took RG3 at 1.2 and Luck and Blackmon at the 4 and 5. So now instead of having Doug Martin and Blackmon on a rebuilding team(heck the team would have been built with those two and Luck) he turned that 1.2 and 1.5 into Ray Rice.

If that's not bad enough this team as now is not competitive with Rice so while I think the value of the trade is fair it's just poor team building. He should have at least found a way to get Pearce in the deal.

Not that I minded seeing the trade go down. The team getting Rice is not a threat and the team that got RG3 and Blackmon is the best team in the league but they already have Cam, both NE TE's, and 3 WR's that are easily better than Blackmon with Garcon as #4 so they might have given up Rice and not got a weekly starter while creating a hole at RB2. But this is April so I'm not getting excited about it either as I'm sure this is just the beginning of his dealing.

Good ol CKC. Yes, I have heard this story 40 times from Dragons

 

[cstu]

Speaking of Blackmon this trade went down late last night in my league. One of the people in this trade posts in here so I was going to let him post his trade but I'll just go ahead: Team A gave: Ray Rice Team B gave: RG3 and Justin Blackmon In a vacuum not sure what you all think of the trade but the team that gave up RG3 and Blackmon could write a book on how not to manage a dynasty team.

I saw this one. The value of the trade seems fine. What is Rice in a startup right now, late 1st?? What is RG3 and Blackmon, both maybe 3rd-4th rounders? If you have another good QB and strong WRs, this is the kind of move that can win you the title for a couple years getting Rice. On the other hand, if you don't have a top end QB and aren't real strong at WR, getting Rice doesnt do anything for you here, so I would take the youth part if I am not winning now and 2014. I really can't say which side I would take. I can think of a scenario where I would prefer each

Yes I'm higher on RG3 than most and more down on Rice than the majority but in a vacuum the trade is fair to me. The reason I keep referencing the vacuum part is the horrible job the team did that traded for Rice. They had pick 1.2, 1.4 and 1.5 in last years rookie draft. The team sucks and has needs all over. The layup move was to pick Martin at 1.2. At 1.4 or 1.5 you would be guaranteed of either Luck or RG3 and/or both or Blackmon. Instead this team took RG3 at 1.2 and Luck and Blackmon at the 4 and 5. So now instead of having Doug Martin and Blackmon on a rebuilding team(heck the team would have been built with those two and Luck) he turned that 1.2 and 1.5 into Ray Rice. If that's not bad enough this team as now is not competitive with Rice so while I think the value of the trade is fair it's just poor team building. He should have at least found a way to get Pearce in the deal. Not that I minded seeing the trade go down. The team getting Rice is not a threat and the team that got RG3 and Blackmon is the best team in the league but they already have Cam, both NE TE's, and 3 WR's that are easily better than Blackmon with Garcon as #4 so they might have given up Rice and not got a weekly starter while creating a hole at RB2. But this is April so I'm not getting excited about it either as I'm sure this is just the beginning of his dealing.

Just wait until he trades Blackmon for AP.

 

[menobrown]

Jimmy graham2014 1st and 2nd round pick (likely late)ForAaron HernandezMichael Floyd

Picks on the wrong side

Definitely.

E-mail for this trade just went through so I just found out I'm in this league.

Agreed, the picks were on the wrong side.

 

[ghostguy123]

Jimmy graham2014 1st and 2nd round pick (likely late)ForAaron HernandezMichael Floyd

Picks on the wrong side

Definitely.

E-mail for this trade just went through so I just found out I'm in this league.

Agreed, the picks were on the wrong side.

Even still, I wouldnt trade Graham for Hernandez, Floyd, and the picks.

I think Graham is pretty solidly the TE-1 at the moment. Gronk of course a close 2nd. Even though Hernandez is the clear TE-3, no way I can give up graham like that. Dude scored 280 in the FFPC scoring on what seemed like a "down" year.

 

[BrainDeadGenius]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TETeam A gives A PetersonTeam B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

This is a classic example of someone taking the best offer they could get for a guy (Peterson)...................but it's APRIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why be in a rush to sell low in April?

No, this is actually a classic of example of being willing to pay for a player you like and believe in. Again, the value of a player is determined by the league. I'm in this league and I'm quite sure that Peso has been trying to sell AP for a while now. It's not about what he might be able to get later. It's more about Blackmon and what his value might continue to do. His owner valued him as a top 10 WR (as do I and many others) and was not going to sell him without a significant payment. This was the kind of offer it would take to get Blackmon and there's nothing wrong at all with paying that if it's a player you want to own. Factor in that each of these player's values are going in the opposite direction and it made more sense to do it now. If Jax actually obtains a QB, then Blackmon's value goes even higher. And while the near consensus here is that AP should have fetched far more, not only do I disagree with that, but getting the pick was a huge bonus to me as I would pay AP straight up for Blackmon without thinking twice. Just goes to show the variability in owner's valuations of players. I don't see AP outscoring Blackmon beyond this year in a 1 ppr format when Peterson will be close to 30 in 2014 and Blackmon will be hitting his prime. With it being a 1 RB start league, RB scarcity isn't as important.

 

[BrainDeadGenius]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TETeam A gives A PetersonTeam B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

This is a classic example of someone taking the best offer they could get for a guy (Peterson)...................but it's APRIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why be in a rush to sell low in April?

No, this is actually a classic of example of being willing to pay for a player you like and believe in. Again, the value of a player is determined by the league. I'm in this league and I'm quite sure that Peso has been trying to sell AP for a while now. It's not about what he might be able to get later. It's more about Blackmon and what his value might continue to do. His owner valued him as a top 10 WR (as do I and many others) and was not going to sell him without a significant payment. This was the kind of offer it would take to get Blackmon and there's nothing wrong at all with paying that if it's a player you want to own. Factor in that each of these player's values are going in the opposite direction and it made more sense to do it now. If Jax actually obtains a QB, then Blackmon's value goes even higher. And while the near consensus here is that AP should have fetched far more, not only do I disagree with that, but getting the pick was a huge bonus to me as I would pay AP straight up for Blackmon without thinking twice. Just goes to show the variability in owner's valuations of players. I don't see AP outscoring Blackmon beyond this year in a 1 ppr format when Peterson will be close to 30 in 2014 and Blackmon will be hitting his prime. With it being a 1 RB start league, RB scarcity isn't as important.

I disagree 100%. If you want to trade Peterson, do it in September -- not April. You are selling low if you trade him now.

 

[One More Rep]

Team A gets A.J. Green/Dwayne Allen/ 2013 rookie pick 2.12

Team B gets Jimmy Graham/ Mike Williams

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

I'm lower on Shorts than most, but would easily prefer him over 1.09

12 Team PPR League

Gave: Shorts

Got: 1.09

 

[steeler6]

After seeing all the Blackmon love, I'd figure I'd post this one. Team I just took over in a start 2 qb league.

Trade away Blackmon and Ryan Williams

Got Emmanuel Sanders, Denarius Moore, Rookie 2013 picks 1.9 and 1.10

Hoping a few qbs go higher than they normally would which would push some skill guys down to me.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Sorry man, you got really taken on that one. Oof.

 

[steeler6]

Sorry man, you got really taken on that one. Oof.

Yeah, I thought than would be the response. But I don't know what it is, if it's the qb situation or the knucklehead factor, I don't know if he'll ever live up to the hype.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Sorry man, you got really taken on that one. Oof.

Yeah, I thought than would be the response. But I don't know what it is, if it's the qb situation or the knucklehead factor, I don't know if he'll ever live up to the hype.

Even if that's true, it highly unlikely everyone in your league feels that way.

 

[kutta]

After seeing all the Blackmon love, I'd figure I'd post this one. Team I just took over in a start 2 qb league.

Trade away Blackmon and Ryan Williams

Got Emmanuel Sanders, Denarius Moore, Rookie 2013 picks 1.9 and 1.10

Hoping a few qbs go higher than they normally would which would push some skill guys down to me.

I don't like this at all for the Blackmon side. I agree with you to a certain extent that I am not as high on Blackmon as others are, but I think he and Ryan Williams could be the best two guys in this trade. Sanders and Moore will always be middling to good guys. Blackmon has the potential to be really good to great.

 

[solorca]

Gave - 4.11

Received - Michael Turner

PPR league. I have a few late round picks to grab the flyers I want, so I took a chance on Turner getting signed to be a desperation starter somewhere in the league this season. Seemed worth the late pick.

 

[JohnW1970]

Same league

Gave: Mathews and Ingram

Got: Spiller

12 Team PPR

Gave: Reggie Bush and Steven Jackson

Got: Ray Rice

3rd RB trade for me in this league:

Gave: 1.02, Wayne, L. Miller and Daniel Thomas

Got: Foster, Tate, 1.07 and 2014 2nd round pick

Starters are now

Brady, Foster, Rice, Spiller, Julio, Harvin, Blackmon and Hernandez

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Lot of morons in that league. Though I can kinda see the Foster/Tate/1.7 for Miller/1.2 /Wayne if he's one of those crazies who just loves Miller.

Either way your league basically gave you a championship-level RB corps when the rest of your lineup was already stacked.

 

[JohnW1970]

Lot of morons in that league. Though I can kinda see the Foster/Tate/1.7 for Miller/1.2 /Wayne if he's one of those crazies who just loves Miller.Either way your league basically gave you a championship-level RB corps when the rest of your lineup was already stacked.

It is a league that has been around for about 7 years, and has owners that are on FBG and are in many of the other leagues I am in. I'm not going to complain.

 

[Rolling_akg]

QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1 superflex/1 rb/wr/te flex

• Team Agave up Manning, Peyton DEN QB;Osweiler, Brock DEN QB;Foster, Arian HOU RB;Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
• Team B gave up Rivers, Philip SDC QB;Ridley, Stevan NEP RB;Johnson, Calvin DET WR

 

[kutta]

Same league

Gave: Mathews and Ingram

Got: Spiller

12 Team PPR

Gave: Reggie Bush and Steven Jackson

Got: Ray Rice

3rd RB trade for me in this league:

Gave: 1.02, Wayne, L. Miller and Daniel Thomas

Got: Foster, Tate, 1.07 and 2014 2nd round pick

Starters are now

Brady, Foster, Rice, Spiller, Julio, Harvin, Blackmon and Hernandez

What the heck? That is a TERRIBLE trade for the guy giving Foster. How does that even happen? I might get kicked out of my league for even offering such a trade.

 

[JohnW1970]

Same league

Gave: Mathews and Ingram

Got: Spiller

12 Team PPR

Gave: Reggie Bush and Steven Jackson

Got: Ray Rice

3rd RB trade for me in this league:

Gave: 1.02, Wayne, L. Miller and Daniel Thomas

Got: Foster, Tate, 1.07 and 2014 2nd round pick

Starters are now

Brady, Foster, Rice, Spiller, Julio, Harvin, Blackmon and Hernandez

What the heck? That is a TERRIBLE trade for the guy giving Foster. How does that even happen? I might get kicked out of my league for even offering such a trade.

It was essentially his offer, he made the orginal foster offer. I countered removing a WR he wanted to send and asked for the future 2nd instead and he accepted. He was weak at WR and wanted Wayne,

 

[sriki]

QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1 superflex/1 rb/wr/te flex

• Team Agave up Manning, Peyton DEN QB;Osweiler, Brock DEN QB;Foster, Arian HOU RB;Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
• Team B gave up Rivers, Philip SDC QB;Ridley, Stevan NEP RB;Johnson, Calvin DET WR

Bad trade. I see it as no diff between manning and rivers. Ridley has higher value than Hilton IMO(but, that's debatable for some). Calvin is 27 and Foster is 26. WRs tend to have more life than RB and even excluding that Calvin is better than Foster

 

[ghostguy123]

QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1 superflex/1 rb/wr/te flex

• Team Agave up Manning, Peyton DEN QB;Osweiler, Brock DEN QB;Foster, Arian HOU RB;Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
• Team B gave up Rivers, Philip SDC QB;Ridley, Stevan NEP RB;Johnson, Calvin DET WR

Bad trade. I see it as no diff between manning and rivers. Ridley has higher value than Hilton IMO(but, that's debatable for some). Calvin is 27 and Foster is 26. WRs tend to have more life than RB and even excluding that Calvin is better than Foster

I like the Calvin side as well..................but you should maybe go see a doctor after saying you see no difference between Manning and Rivers.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Same league

Gave: Mathews and Ingram

Got: Spiller

12 Team PPR

Gave: Reggie Bush and Steven Jackson

Got: Ray Rice

3rd RB trade for me in this league:

Gave: 1.02, Wayne, L. Miller and Daniel Thomas

Got: Foster, Tate, 1.07 and 2014 2nd round pick

Starters are now

Brady, Foster, Rice, Spiller, Julio, Harvin, Blackmon and Hernandez

What the heck? That is a TERRIBLE trade for the guy giving Foster. How does that even happen? I might get kicked out of my league for even offering such a trade.

I think that's a little overboard. I;m of the belief that Lamar Miller is going to put up some real nice numbers this season though - I haven't been able to land him in any of my leagues so far though.

1.02 still has some value even in this "depressed" draft class and Wayne still has some juice. I still think Foster has some solid years left in him but some people just don't like holding onto 27 year old backs. I'd take the Foster side in this one, but its not outrageous at all imo.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1 superflex/1 rb/wr/te flex

• Team Agave up Manning, Peyton DEN QB;Osweiler, Brock DEN QB;Foster, Arian HOU RB;Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
• Team B gave up Rivers, Philip SDC QB;Ridley, Stevan NEP RB;Johnson, Calvin DET WR

Bad trade. I see it as no diff between manning and rivers. Ridley has higher value than Hilton IMO(but, that's debatable for some). Calvin is 27 and Foster is 26. WRs tend to have more life than RB and even excluding that Calvin is better than Foster

I agree it was a bad trade (I'd take the Calvin side as fast as I could hit accept), but the bolded statement is just not accurate imo. Rivers is falling apart faster than Manning despite being younger. Manning is poised for a top 3 season - which has some value.

 

[jonboltz]

QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1 superflex/1 rb/wr/te flex

• Team Agave up Manning, Peyton DEN QB;Osweiler, Brock DEN QB;Foster, Arian HOU RB;Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
• Team B gave up Rivers, Philip SDC QB;Ridley, Stevan NEP RB;Johnson, Calvin DET WR

Bad trade. I see it as no diff between manning and rivers. Ridley has higher value than Hilton IMO(but, that's debatable for some). Calvin is 27 and Foster is 26. WRs tend to have more life than RB and even excluding that Calvin is better than Foster

For a superflex league, this trade is pretty fair, IMHO.

 

[JustinHawkins]

12 team PPR dynasty league. We start 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex at r/w/t

I gave: Nicks & Gresham

I got: Morris & F. Davis

Roster:

Cam, Bradford, Palmer, Pryor

Richardson, Martin, Morris

AJ Green, Julio, Cobb, E. Sanders, Jon Baldwin, Hawkins

Hernandez, F. Davis

1.1, 1.2, 1.9, 1.10, 1.12

Value wise I think he probably came out a tad better, but felt this made the most sense for my team needs. Plus I think it gives me more flexibility in the draft to go BPA instead of feeling I HAVE to take a RB or two with the 1.1 or 1.2 picks.

 

[pyite76]

12 team, Superflex - Q-RB-RB-WR-WR-WR-Superflex - Flex - TE - K with 11 IDps - No PPR

Marques Colston

for

2.09

 

[doubletrouble]

PPR

My: 1.7, 1.8

for

His: Alfred Morris

So I have traded 1.3, 1.7 and 1.8 for MJD, Morris and Austin

All will be upgrade to current roster

Rivers

MJD, Morris, BJGE, Ballard, A. Brown, DuJuan Harris, Pierce, Pead/Richardson

Austin, Nelson, Steve Johnson, Michael Floyd, Hartline, K. Wright

Pettigrew

 

[JustinHawkins]

wish I could have landed Morris that cheap. nice job!!

 

[kutta]

12 team, Superflex - Q-RB-RB-WR-WR-WR-Superflex - Flex - TE - K with 11 IDps - No PPR

Marques Colston

for

2.09

Is this really Colston's value? I'd give up the 2.09 in a heartbeat for Colston.