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2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (1 Viewer)

Warhogs said:
I won't comment on that. I am only saying that the guy offering Brandon Marshall probably could have gotten the deal done had he just added a couple more starting players to his offer.
I have stories upon stories about how I could not get deals done with BAD owners when I was clearly offering more than the person they eventually did a deal with.

Just, the whole reasoning of what that other owner needed to get the deal done just screams bad owner. He was limiting himself by saying he had to have "3-4 starters" or whatever. Starter does not always = "good".

I had a guy once who was shopping both Cam Newton and Arian Foster. And by shopping both I mean he HAD to deal both in the same deal. Meaning, he would not deal Newton to one owner, and Foster to another...............he HAD to deal both away in a package. This may have been the single dumbest thing I have ever seen an owner do.

He limited his trading partners to only like 1-2 people because of this, hence, limiting how much he could get instead of trading each guy individually. Also, he was rebuilding and for some reason thought it was a good idea to trade Newton, but that's a whole different conversation of what NOT to do for a rebuild.

Easily he could have gotten more for both guys had he shopped each separately. I actually offered a deal for just Foster that was pretty good, and the deal he eventually took made me laugh when I saw what I was giving him for Foster, knowing he still would have had Newton.

Much the guy with Marshall in your example, it was a classic case where I couldn't get a deal done with this owner because for some reason he would not allow himself to get the best deals he could, and he was willing to take less by dealing both together for some odd reason.
Do your other stories upon stories contain huge exaggerations too?

The owner to which you referred traded away Arian Foster, Cam Newton and Ben Tate for Mike Wallace, Jeremy Maclin, Andy Dalton and the 1.5, 1.6, 1.7 last year. Consensus on those picks were Andrew Luck, David Wilson and Justin Blackmon.

Foster/Cam/Tate for Wallace/Maclin/Luck/D.Wilson/Blackmon/Dalton.

I’d say that owner did pretty well for himself on that trade.

 
12 team PPR (5pt passing TD)

Brees

R Bush

S Smith

Mendy

for

R Wilson

M Ball

Bowe

T Smith

I got Brees, and while I gave up a lot of youth; I really think it improves my chance of winning it all this year.

 
12 team dynasty, PPR, IDP, 6pts passing TD

I gave:

Joe Flacco QB BAL

Geno Atkins DT CIN (5th highest DL scorer in our league)

2013 rookie pick 3.12

2013 rookie pick 4.12

I received:

Tom Brady QB NE

2013 rookie pick 5.11

2013 rookie pick 6.11

 
12 team PPR (5pt passing TD)

Brees

R Bush

S Smith

Mendy

for

R Wilson

M Ball

Bowe

T Smith

I got Brees, and while I gave up a lot of youth; I really think it improves my chance of winning it all this year.
Brees>Wilson this year maybe, but too close to call.

Bowe=Smith this year most likely

Bush>Ball this year. But by how much? Maybe not much.

Mendy and T Smith apples to oranges, but I would rather have T. Smith this year in a vaccum.

I think you gave up too much youth for the extra points you may or may not get this year. Just my opinion, but I think you were better off before this one.

 
12 team PPR (5pt passing TD)

Brees

R Bush

S Smith

Mendy

for

R Wilson

M Ball

Bowe

T Smith

I got Brees, and while I gave up a lot of youth; I really think it improves my chance of winning it all this year.
Brees>Wilson this year maybe, but too close to call.

Bowe=Smith this year most likely

Bush>Ball this year. But by how much? Maybe not much.

Mendy and T Smith apples to oranges, but I would rather have T. Smith this year in a vaccum.

I think you gave up too much youth for the extra points you may or may not get this year. Just my opinion, but I think you were better off before this one.
Give me a break. I like Wilson but he may never reach 40 TDs let alone 45. Barring injury Brees is good for 40 2-3 more years easily.

 
12 team PPR (5pt passing TD)

Brees

R Bush

S Smith

Mendy

for

R Wilson

M Ball

Bowe

T Smith

I got Brees, and while I gave up a lot of youth; I really think it improves my chance of winning it all this year.
Brees>Wilson this year maybe, but too close to call.

Bowe=Smith this year most likely

Bush>Ball this year. But by how much? Maybe not much.

Mendy and T Smith apples to oranges, but I would rather have T. Smith this year in a vaccum.

I think you gave up too much youth for the extra points you may or may not get this year. Just my opinion, but I think you were better off before this one.
Give me a break. I like Wilson but he may never reach 40 TDs let alone 45. Barring injury Brees is good for 40 2-3 more years easily.
I agree with that but why not try say Torrey and Wilson for Brees? Or find someone willing to trade Brady for Wilson straight up?

 
12 team PPR (5pt passing TD)

Brees

R Bush

S Smith

Mendy

for

R Wilson

M Ball

Bowe

T Smith

I got Brees, and while I gave up a lot of youth; I really think it improves my chance of winning it all this year.
Brees>Wilson this year maybe, but too close to call.

Bowe=Smith this year most likely

Bush>Ball this year. But by how much? Maybe not much.

Mendy and T Smith apples to oranges, but I would rather have T. Smith this year in a vaccum.

I think you gave up too much youth for the extra points you may or may not get this year. Just my opinion, but I think you were better off before this one.
Give me a break. I like Wilson but he may never reach 40 TDs let alone 45. Barring injury Brees is good for 40 2-3 more years easily.
I agree with that but why not try say Torrey and Wilson for Brees? Or find someone willing to trade Brady for Wilson straight up?
Your analysis could end up being right, but from my opinion:

Brees>Brady because of the difference in ages. I also expect Brees to significantly outscore Wilson for at least the next three years.

I also think that Reggie Bush is many, many times an upgrade over Ball in PPR. I think that is a bigger upgrade than the QB swap.

 
12 team PPR (5pt passing TD)

Brees

R Bush

S Smith

Mendy

for

R Wilson

M Ball

Bowe

T Smith

I got Brees, and while I gave up a lot of youth; I really think it improves my chance of winning it all this year.
Brees>Wilson this year maybe, but too close to call.

Bowe=Smith this year most likely

Bush>Ball this year. But by how much? Maybe not much.

Mendy and T Smith apples to oranges, but I would rather have T. Smith this year in a vaccum.

I think you gave up too much youth for the extra points you may or may not get this year. Just my opinion, but I think you were better off before this one.
Give me a break. I like Wilson but he may never reach 40 TDs let alone 45. Barring injury Brees is good for 40 2-3 more years easily.
I'll give you a break, but hear me out. Weeks 8-16 last year Wilson outscored Brees by 1.5 points per game in my league. Granted Brees had that horrendous 5 INT game in there, but I think Seattle really began to unleash Wilson in the second half and he showed he could handle it. I see no reason with the improved weapons that his numbers would be any lower this year. I really think they will be about the same, 27ppg. Maybe Brees outscores him this year, but I think it's going to be by a lot less than you think, if any.

 
12 team PPR (5pt passing TD)

Brees

R Bush

S Smith

Mendy

for

R Wilson

M Ball

Bowe

T Smith

I got Brees, and while I gave up a lot of youth; I really think it improves my chance of winning it all this year.
Brees>Wilson this year maybe, but too close to call.

Bowe=Smith this year most likely

Bush>Ball this year. But by how much? Maybe not much.

Mendy and T Smith apples to oranges, but I would rather have T. Smith this year in a vaccum.

I think you gave up too much youth for the extra points you may or may not get this year. Just my opinion, but I think you were better off before this one.
From a dynasty perspective, that is way too much to give up for Brees imo.

 
12 team PPR (5pt passing TD)

Brees

R Bush

S Smith

Mendy

for

R Wilson

M Ball

Bowe

T Smith

I got Brees, and while I gave up a lot of youth; I really think it improves my chance of winning it all this year.
Brees>Wilson this year maybe, but too close to call.

Bowe=Smith this year most likely

Bush>Ball this year. But by how much? Maybe not much.

Mendy and T Smith apples to oranges, but I would rather have T. Smith this year in a vaccum.

I think you gave up too much youth for the extra points you may or may not get this year. Just my opinion, but I think you were better off before this one.
Give me a break. I like Wilson but he may never reach 40 TDs let alone 45. Barring injury Brees is good for 40 2-3 more years easily.
I'll give you a break, but hear me out. Weeks 8-16 last year Wilson outscored Brees by 1.5 points per game in my league. Granted Brees had that horrendous 5 INT game in there, but I think Seattle really began to unleash Wilson in the second half and he showed he could handle it. I see no reason with the improved weapons that his numbers would be any lower this year. I really think they will be about the same, 27ppg. Maybe Brees outscores him this year, but I think it's going to be by a lot less than you think, if any.
And Brees accomplished everything he did last year without a head coach--who is now back.

 
12 team PPR (5pt passing TD)

Brees

R Bush

S Smith

Mendy

for

R Wilson

M Ball

Bowe

T Smith

I got Brees, and while I gave up a lot of youth; I really think it improves my chance of winning it all this year.
Brees>Wilson this year maybe, but too close to call.

Bowe=Smith this year most likely

Bush>Ball this year. But by how much? Maybe not much.

Mendy and T Smith apples to oranges, but I would rather have T. Smith this year in a vaccum.

I think you gave up too much youth for the extra points you may or may not get this year. Just my opinion, but I think you were better off before this one.
Give me a break. I like Wilson but he may never reach 40 TDs let alone 45. Barring injury Brees is good for 40 2-3 more years easily.
I'll give you a break, but hear me out. Weeks 8-16 last year Wilson outscored Brees by 1.5 points per game in my league. Granted Brees had that horrendous 5 INT game in there, but I think Seattle really began to unleash Wilson in the second half and he showed he could handle it. I see no reason with the improved weapons that his numbers would be any lower this year. I really think they will be about the same, 27ppg. Maybe Brees outscores him this year, but I think it's going to be by a lot less than you think, if any.
And Brees accomplished everything he did last year without a head coach--who is now back.
This is true, but has very little impact fantasy wise. Means a lot more to the Saints team from a "real" football perspective.

Look at Brees ppg numbers the last three years when Peyton was not suspended if you want to make that case. 2011-32ppg, 2010-24.33ppg, 2009-27ppg. So why can't Wilson be close to that? I think people are discounting his rushing stats.

 
12 team PPR (5pt passing TD) BreesR BushS SmithMendy for R WilsonM BallBoweT Smith I got Brees, and while I gave up a lot of youth; I really think it improves my chance of winning it all this year.
Brees>Wilson this year maybe, but too close to call. Bowe=Smith this year most likelyBush>Ball this year. But by how much? Maybe not much.Mendy and T Smith apples to oranges, but I would rather have T. Smith this year in a vaccum. I think you gave up too much youth for the extra points you may or may not get this year. Just my opinion, but I think you were better off before this one.
From a dynasty perspective, that is way too much to give up for Brees imo.
What is fair for brees? I'm looking to trade him (I also have Peyton) and don't need a qb back.
 
FFPC rules.....2nd year....1st Rookie/FA draft......7 rounds

My first Dynasty league and first trades.....wanted to get thoughts on these. All made during the draft

Team A......gets pick #1.5

Team B......gets pick #2.2....#2.8.....#3.1

Team A......gets pick #2.2 and pick #6.5

Team B......gets Ryan Williams and Deangelo Williams

Team A......gets pick #2.5.....#4.5

Team B......gets pick # 2.9.....#3.3

Team A......gets pick #3.5

Team B......gets 2014 2nd rounder

Team A......gets 2014 1st + 2014 2nd + Celek

(has RG3, Kaepernick, Peyton)

Team B......gets Peyton Manning

(only QB on roster is Rivers....Bradford, Cutler, Flacco on FA market)

 
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16 team 1.5 TE PPR

Professor Dent | Lanning gave up:

Bush, Reggie DET RB

Miller, Lamar MIA RB

Randle, Rueben NYG WR

Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE

The Honey Ryders | MorningMud gave up:

Sanchez, Mark NYJ QB

Carter, Delone IND RB

Sproles, Darren NOS RB

Pitta, Dennis BAL TE

Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.16
:lmao:

Tough to lose a trade in so many ways. Gotta give props to Professor Dent for giving away so much with little to show for it with so many players.

 
12 team dynasty PPR

Team A gets

RGIII

Fleener

Austin Pettis

Team B gets

Sam Bradford

Jake Locker

Aaron Hernandez

Donald Brown

2014 1st rounder(probably late pick)

 
Fish said:
FFPC rules.....2nd year....1st Rookie/FA draft......7 rounds

My first Dynasty league and first trades.....wanted to get thoughts on these. All made during the draft

Team A......gets pick #1.5

Team B......gets pick #2.2....#2.8.....#3.1

Team A......gets pick #2.2 and pick #6.5

Team B......gets Ryan Williams and Deangelo Williams

Team A......gets pick #2.5.....#4.5

Team B......gets pick # 2.9.....#3.3

Team A......gets pick #3.5

Team B......gets 2014 2nd rounder

Team A......gets 2014 1st + 2014 2nd + Celek

(has RG3, Kaepernick, Peyton)

Team B......gets Peyton Manning

(only QB on roster is Rivers....Bradford, Cutler, Flacco on FA market)
Team A......gets pick #1.5

Team B......gets pick #2.2....#2.8.....#3.1

There were 8 first round rookies in these drafts. Everyone else was a second round talent. To get one of those is key and with shorter rosters sizes stockpiling 3 less tiered rookie prospects and being patient enough to not cut them before they develop is not easy. So give me the 1.5.

Team A......gets pick #2.2 and pick #6.5

Team B......gets Ryan Williams and Deangelo Williams

Seems about right to me but I suspect most people would prefer the picks. My main reason for saying it seems right is I place a higher value on Williams than most of the RB's I'm seeing taken in this range.

Team A......gets pick #2.5.....#4.5

Team B......gets pick # 2.9.....#3.3

Team A......gets pick #3.5

Team B......gets 2014 2nd rounder

Both of these trades are great for Team B. But in both cases if team was able to step up and get a player they viewed in a different tier it's a win for them as well.
Team A......gets 2014 1st + 2014 2nd + Celek

(has RG3, Kaepernick, Peyton)

Team B......gets Peyton Manning

(only QB on roster is Rivers....Bradford, Cutler, Flacco on FA market)

I don't understand why Team A would pay that with RG3 and Kaepernick on roster. Now forced to make one if not two trades to make this make any sense. As for Team B it's great move if they are rebuilding, poor move if they view themselves as legit contenders. They'll get production at the QB position, easiest thing to find in IMO, but that could be a big step down for the next year or two from what Peyton would have likely provided.
 
Team A......gets 2014 1st + 2014 2nd + Celek

(has RG3, Kaepernick, Peyton)

Team B......gets Peyton Manning

(only QB on roster is Rivers....Bradford, Cutler, Flacco on FA market)

I don't understand why Team A would pay that with RG3 and Kaepernick on roster. Now forced to make one if not two trades to make this make any sense. As for Team B it's great move if they are rebuilding, poor move if they view themselves as legit contenders. They'll get production at the QB position, easiest thing to find in IMO, but that could be a big step down for the next year or two from what Peyton would have likely provided.
I am in this league - the guy had RG3, Kaepernick and Peyton and traded away Peyton for the 2014 1st, 2014 2nd + Celek

 
I'd like to get opinion here, 12 team PPR start two-three RBs a week.

My RBs: Rice, McCoy, CJ1K, Spiller, Richardson. Also own 1.1 thinking Bernard to cover my trade

Traded Ryan Matthews and 4.8 (44th)

Recieved: 2014 1st and 2.11 (23rd)

Now have 1.1, 1.9, 2.1, 2.11 this year

And three total firsts next year.

 
Team A......gets 2014 1st + 2014 2nd + Celek

(has RG3, Kaepernick, Peyton)

Team B......gets Peyton Manning

(only QB on roster is Rivers....Bradford, Cutler, Flacco on FA market)

I don't understand why Team A would pay that with RG3 and Kaepernick on roster. Now forced to make one if not two trades to make this make any sense. As for Team B it's great move if they are rebuilding, poor move if they view themselves as legit contenders. They'll get production at the QB position, easiest thing to find in IMO, but that could be a big step down for the next year or two from what Peyton would have likely provided.
I am in this league - the guy had RG3, Kaepernick and Peyton and traded away Peyton for the 2014 1st, 2014 2nd + Celek
Team A......gets 2014 1st + 2014 2nd + Celek

(has RG3, Kaepernick, Peyton)

Team B......gets Peyton Manning

(only QB on roster is Rivers....Bradford, Cutler, Flacco on FA market)

I don't understand why Team A would pay that with RG3 and Kaepernick on roster. Now forced to make one if not two trades to make this make any sense. As for Team B it's great move if they are rebuilding, poor move if they view themselves as legit contenders. They'll get production at the QB position, easiest thing to find in IMO, but that could be a big step down for the next year or two from what Peyton would have likely provided.
I am in this league - the guy had RG3, Kaepernick and Peyton and traded away Peyton for the 2014 1st, 2014 2nd + Celek
I got that all wrong. In that case great deal for Team A. QB's are hard to trade and get value for and they were able to that. If I'm team B I'm still only making this if I feel good about making the playoffs.

 
12 team ppr/ 1.5 te Start 2 rb 2wr 3 flex

Two trades

Traded C.Ivory and 2014 2nd rounder

Recieved Reggie Bush and Adrien Robinson

Traded Wes Welker, Mark Ingram and Micheal Bush

Recieved Chris Johnson. Donnie Avery and Golden Tate

Roster after Trade

Qb- Peyton, Flynn, Ponder, Glennon

Rb- Chris Johnson, Reggie Bush, BGE, Knowshown, Andre Ellington and Kendall Hunter

WR- Harvin, Cobb, Wayne, Broyles, Avery, Edelman, Holmes, Randall and Tate

TE- Graham, Hernandez, Gonzalez and Robinson

 
I'd like to get opinion here, 12 team PPR start two-three RBs a week.My RBs: Rice, McCoy, CJ1K, Spiller, Richardson. Also own 1.1 thinking Bernard to cover my tradeTraded Ryan Matthews and 4.8 (44th)Recieved: 2014 1st and 2.11 (23rd)Now have 1.1, 1.9, 2.1, 2.11 this yearAnd three total firsts next year.
Good trade. Im surprised ya can still get that much for mathews. Trade that first pick for a wr.
 
12team ppr trades during current draft

Lagarette Blount for 3.10

Brady, E. Sanders, Virgil Green, Julius Thomas, 4.01. For Palmer, Murray, Tanner, Stevie Johnson, 3.08

2.04, 4.08 for Flacco, 2.08

D Will for 3.04

RG3, Fleener, Turner, Pettis for Bradford, Locker, Donald Brown, Hernandez, 2014 1st

Pettigrew, 1.04, 2014 2nd for Gronk, 2014 3rd

Maclin for 2014 2nd, 2.02

 
12 Team, 1 PPR, QB-QB-RB-RB-WR-WR-TE-Flex-DEF

Team A Gave: Miles Austin, Charles Johnson

Team B Gave: Cecil Shorts, $25 Blind Bidding Bucks ($100/yearly budget)

I'm Team A, and actually prefer Austin slightly over Shorts, but already owned Dez Bryant AND Terrance Williams so I didn't want to have so many eggs in the Tony Romo basket. Pretty much a lateral move to a different player and Team B got a flyer/prospect he really likes (Charles Johnson). Also have the trade itch and felt like it was time to shake things up lol

 
Just happened in 1 of my leagues, not involved (start 2QB)

Vick and 4.08

for

Cam

Hoping it gets veto'd (commissioner veto only, and 2ndary commish is the one getting Cam...). I don't care how high you are Vick and believer in him in Kelly's offense this is bad value.

 
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12 Team, 1 PPR, QB-QB-RB-RB-WR-WR-TE-Flex-DEF Team A Gave: Miles Austin, Charles Johnson Team B Gave: Cecil Shorts, $25 Blind Bidding Bucks ($100/yearly budget) I'm Team A, and actually prefer Austin slightly over Shorts, but already owned Dez Bryant AND Terrance Williams so I didn't want to have so many eggs in the Tony Romo basket. Pretty much a lateral move to a different player and Team B got a flyer/prospect he really likes (Charles Johnson). Also have the trade itch and felt like it was time to shake things up lol
Interesting. I'm trying like hell to move Austin in one league and can't get a nibble. Throwing out an offer of Austin straight up for Shorts now, after seeing this.
 
Just happened in 1 of my leagues, not involved (start 2QB) Vick and 4.08forCam Hoping it gets veto'd (commissioner veto only, and 2ndary commish is the one getting Cam...). I don't care how high you are Vick and believer in him in Kelly's offense this is bad value.
This is a horrible trade in any league.In a 2QB league, this could be a league killer. Seriously, it's that bad, and it will swing power in the league THAT much towards the guy getting a top-3 player in that league for free. Your league should be scared, if that trade stands. And I never support vetoes. It's just that bad.
 
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12team ppr trades during current draftLagarette Blount for 3.10Brady, E. Sanders, Virgil Green, Julius Thomas, 4.01. For Palmer, Murray, Tanner, Stevie Johnson, 3.082.04, 4.08 for Flacco, 2.08D Will for 3.04RG3, Fleener, Turner, Pettis for Bradford, Locker, Donald Brown, Hernandez, 2014 1stPettigrew, 1.04, 2014 2nd for Gronk, 2014 3rdMaclin for 2014 2nd, 2.02
That Gronk trade is terrible. I would pay way more than that for him.
 
12 team Superflex, PPR, 6 point pass TD's

Team A gave: Coby Fleener

Team B gave: 3.04

Team A gave:Justin Hunter, Bryce Brown, Brock Osweiler, Beanie Wells(cut right after the trade), 5.08

Team B gave: Andre Johnson, Dwayne Allen, 5.01

 
12 team Superflex, PPR, 6 point pass TD's

Team A gave: Coby Fleener

Team B gave: 3.04

Team A gave:Justin Hunter, Bryce Brown, Brock Osweiler, Beanie Wells(cut right after the trade), 5.08

Team B gave: Andre Johnson, Dwayne Allen, 5.01
I'll take fleener there

I don't find myself enjoying the andre side of trades very often but this would fit that bill.

 
Just happened in 1 of my leagues, not involved (start 2QB) Vick and 4.08forCam Hoping it gets veto'd (commissioner veto only, and 2ndary commish is the one getting Cam...). I don't care how high you are Vick and believer in him in Kelly's offense this is bad value.
it makes me wonder whether cam toyed around with his wife or his daughter

 
Just happened in 1 of my leagues, not involved (start 2QB) Vick and 4.08forCam Hoping it gets veto'd (commissioner veto only, and 2ndary commish is the one getting Cam...). I don't care how high you are Vick and believer in him in Kelly's offense this is bad value.
This is a horrible trade in any league.In a 2QB league, this could be a league killer. Seriously, it's that bad, and it will swing power in the league THAT much towards the guy getting a top-3 player in that league for free. Your league should be scared, if that trade stands. And I never support vetoes. It's just that bad.
There's no possible thought process that could justify that trade.
 
Startup dynasty...16 team...ppr

My: Dobson (NE WR) 12.04 #180, 17.13 #269, 18.04 #276 and 2014 1st

for

His: Josh Gordon (CLE WR) 5.14 #78, 39.01 #609, 4.16 #640

1.08 Spiller, C.J. BUF RB.

3.09 Wilson, David NYG RB

3.12 Jackson, Vincent TBB WR

4.04 Smith, Torrey BAL

4.08 Bernard, Giovani CIN RB

5.07 Witten, Jason DAL TE

5.12 Blackmon, Justin JAC WR

7.07 Vereen, Shane NEP RB

8.04 Manning, Eli NYG QB

9.09 Michael, Christine SEA RB

9.13 Moore, Lance NOS WR

10.4 Brown, Bryce PHILLY RB

11.13 Manuel, E.J. BUF QB

12.04 Dobson, Aaron NEP Traded for Gordon, Josh CLE WR

13.13 Spencer, Anthony DAL DE

14.04 Jordan, Cameron NOS DE

16.04 Tillman, Charles CHI CB

 
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