Could be sincere, or could be smokescreen to drive up any trade value he has. We will see, my money's on a trade, but if Kelly thinks foles can be the guy I'm ok with that too.@GeoffMosherCSN: Chip Kelly gives his strongest endorsement yet for Nick Foles. "I want to coach him." My story from the Combine: http://t.co/8smcWiHCf5
As a veteran Reid watcher, I can confirm that the biggest difference between Kelly and Reid at press conferences is that Kelly says nothing faster and with more vocal inflection.
I hope he restructures.Wonder if not so Awesomeguy will restructure or get cut?
Same. If he gets down to around $4 or $5 mil, its much more bearable and we can see if it was just a fluke or if he's done. No one we would get in the draft would step right in anyway at CB. I don't want Milliner at #4 anymore with that surgery coming.I hope he restructures.Wonder if not so Awesomeguy will restructure or get cut?
And Milner is not the burner that makes you take a CB at 4, IMO.As crazy as it may sound I truely believe we are in the PERFECT spot to get a guy that should be a star for the next 10 years.Same. If he gets down to around $4 or $5 mil, its much more bearable and we can see if it was just a fluke or if he's done. No one we would get in the draft would step right in anyway at CB. I don't want Milliner at #4 anymore with that surgery coming.I hope he restructures.Wonder if not so Awesomeguy will restructure or get cut?
Guy who should be a star or guy named star?And Milner is not the burner that makes you take a CB at 4, IMO.As crazy as it may sound I truely believe we are in the PERFECT spot to get a guy that should be a star for the next 10 years.Same. If he gets down to around $4 or $5 mil, its much more bearable and we can see if it was just a fluke or if he's done. No one we would get in the draft would step right in anyway at CB. I don't want Milliner at #4 anymore with that surgery coming.I hope he restructures.Wonder if not so Awesomeguy will restructure or get cut?
unfortunately Kelce is not working out due to injuryI want one of the top 3 here:» This is shaping up to be an excellent draft for teams in need of a tight end. Notre Dame's Tyler Eifert (6-5 1/2, 250 pounds), Stanford's Zach Ertz (6-5, 249) and San Diego State's Gavin Escobar (6-5 7/8, 254) passed the eyeball test at the weigh-ins. They are very talented on tape and proved to have ideal size/bulk for the position. Cincinnati's Travis Kelce (6-4 7/8, 255) is a name to monitor during the week. He is by far the best blocking tight end in this draft. A good workout could net a second-round draft slot in April.
Is he Jason's brother? Nm. Google told me.unfortunately Kelce is not working out due to injuryI want one of the top 3 here:» This is shaping up to be an excellent draft for teams in need of a tight end. Notre Dame's Tyler Eifert (6-5 1/2, 250 pounds), Stanford's Zach Ertz (6-5, 249) and San Diego State's Gavin Escobar (6-5 7/8, 254) passed the eyeball test at the weigh-ins. They are very talented on tape and proved to have ideal size/bulk for the position. Cincinnati's Travis Kelce (6-4 7/8, 255) is a name to monitor during the week. He is by far the best blocking tight end in this draft. A good workout could net a second-round draft slot in April.
I just want one of these 3 if its doable:Notre Dame's Tyler Eifert (6-5 1/2, 250 pounds), Stanford's Zach Ertz (6-5, 249) and San Diego State's Gavin Escobar (6-5 7/8, 254)unfortunately Kelce is not working out due to injuryI want one of the top 3 here:» This is shaping up to be an excellent draft for teams in need of a tight end. Notre Dame's Tyler Eifert (6-5 1/2, 250 pounds), Stanford's Zach Ertz (6-5, 249) and San Diego State's Gavin Escobar (6-5 7/8, 254) passed the eyeball test at the weigh-ins. They are very talented on tape and proved to have ideal size/bulk for the position. Cincinnati's Travis Kelce (6-4 7/8, 255) is a name to monitor during the week. He is by far the best blocking tight end in this draft. A good workout could net a second-round draft slot in April.
It'd be nice to have a stud TE (not saying these guys will end up studs) but we have far, far bigger needs than TE. Especially since it's possible they'll all be gone by the 3rd round. There should be some guys available in rounds 4 or 5, though.Speaking of TE's, I don't think it was posted here, but Geoff Mosher (I think) reported that Chip wants 4 TE's and no fullback. He also said Celek is safe. So they could look for an H-Back in the draft, unless Chip likes Emil Igwenagu.I just want one of these 3 if its doable:Notre Dame's Tyler Eifert (6-5 1/2, 250 pounds), Stanford's Zach Ertz (6-5, 249) and San Diego State's Gavin Escobar (6-5 7/8, 254)unfortunately Kelce is not working out due to injuryI want one of the top 3 here:» This is shaping up to be an excellent draft for teams in need of a tight end. Notre Dame's Tyler Eifert (6-5 1/2, 250 pounds), Stanford's Zach Ertz (6-5, 249) and San Diego State's Gavin Escobar (6-5 7/8, 254) passed the eyeball test at the weigh-ins. They are very talented on tape and proved to have ideal size/bulk for the position. Cincinnati's Travis Kelce (6-4 7/8, 255) is a name to monitor during the week. He is by far the best blocking tight end in this draft. A good workout could net a second-round draft slot in April.
I agree we have many needs and we'll have a much clearer view of what we'll need after FA. Assuming we address key positions this is a position I think we could use an upgrade at. Eifert and Escobar could both be H-back types IMO.It'd be nice to have a stud TE (not saying these guys will end up studs) but we have far, far bigger needs than TE. Especially since it's possible they'll all be gone by the 3rd round. There should be some guys available in rounds 4 or 5, though.Speaking of TE's, I don't think it was posted here, but Geoff Mosher (I think) reported that Chip wants 4 TE's and no fullback. He also said Celek is safe. So they could look for an H-Back in the draft, unless Chip likes Emil Igwenagu.I just want one of these 3 if its doable:Notre Dame's Tyler Eifert (6-5 1/2, 250 pounds), Stanford's Zach Ertz (6-5, 249) and San Diego State's Gavin Escobar (6-5 7/8, 254)unfortunately Kelce is not working out due to injuryI want one of the top 3 here:» This is shaping up to be an excellent draft for teams in need of a tight end. Notre Dame's Tyler Eifert (6-5 1/2, 250 pounds), Stanford's Zach Ertz (6-5, 249) and San Diego State's Gavin Escobar (6-5 7/8, 254) passed the eyeball test at the weigh-ins. They are very talented on tape and proved to have ideal size/bulk for the position. Cincinnati's Travis Kelce (6-4 7/8, 255) is a name to monitor during the week. He is by far the best blocking tight end in this draft. A good workout could net a second-round draft slot in April.
Ive felt that way about Fisher for a couple weeks now. The more I look and read about him, the more I'm convinced that he's a half step below Joeckel. I'd go Joeckel-Fisher-Star now at 4.I really hop we get a FA OT but if notMoveTheSticks: The more I study the top guys in this draft, the more I'm convinced Eric Fisher will be long gone by the time AZ picks at 7. #NFLDraft
Considering he won't go top 3, I'm not sure "long gone' is the appropriate term for someone who might go a couple picks before 7 if he's lucky. I just don't think Fisher has played good enough competition yet to deem him a top 5 NFL pick. I think if we wanted him we could trade back a spot or two and pick up an extra third rounder.'Bigboy10182000 said:I really hop we get a FA OT but if notMoveTheSticks: The more I study the top guys in this draft, the more I'm convinced Eric Fisher will be long gone by the time AZ picks at 7. #NFLDraft
I hope so also. I think Aso could be a good free safety. He has football IQ but at this point it seems he has lost a step.'Bigboy10182000 said:I hope he restructures.'GoBirds said:Wonder if not so Awesomeguy will restructure or get cut?
His tackling wont translate into a FS IMO. He's CB or cut. He's not as versatile and not the Charles Woodson we thought we were getting. I'm hoping a fresh start with an actual DC will help him. Hoping anyway.I hope so also. I think Aso could be a good free safety. He has football IQ but at this point it seems he has lost a step.'Bigboy10182000 said:I hope he restructures.'GoBirds said:Wonder if not so Awesomeguy will restructure or get cut?
And if Floyd is what people are saying he would make a great DE and we may have our pick of the pass-rushers. Everything I read about Jordan from Oregon make me like him.'Insein said:Ive felt that way about Fisher for a couple weeks now. The more I look and read about him, the more I'm convinced that he's a half step below Joeckel. I'd go Joeckel-Fisher-Star now at 4.'Bigboy10182000 said:I really hop we get a FA OT but if notMoveTheSticks: The more I study the top guys in this draft, the more I'm convinced Eric Fisher will be long gone by the time AZ picks at 7. #NFLDraft
Jordan signed with Oregon as a highly regarded prep tight end and only made the switch to the defensive side of the ball in the spring of 2010.As a reserve defensive end for the Ducks in 2010 Jordan registered 33 tackles, including 5.5 tackles for loss and two sacks.To take advantage of his unique combination of burst off the snap and length, Oregon created a hybrid role for Jordan in 2011, lining him up as a stand-up pass rusher and moving him around to find favorable matchups. Demonstrating surprising fluidity for such a tall player, Jordan exploded for 13 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks, each of which led the team, earning First Team all-conference honors from Pac-12 coaches.In 2012, Jordan showcased his versatility to the nation against Arizona State, lining up on the line of scrimmage as a stand-up defensive end, in the box as a linebacker or in the slot, covering inside receivers. Yes - in the slot on receivers, a spot usually reserved for defensive backs.Rarely asked to play with his hand in the dirt as a traditional defensive end, Oregon helped protect Jordan as a run-defender as he lacks the bulk to consistently set the edge against 300 pound behemoths. Jordan's long arms and vision, however, allow him to disengage from most blockers quickly and he plays with a high-revving motor, often pursuing the ball-carrier yards downfield.Jordan's extraordinary physical tools will likely land him in the first round, now the question is how high?AnalysisStrengths: Rare athleticism for his size with loose hips and smooth footwork to move naturally in any direction. Looks like a basketball small forward in football pads with his tall, long frame and flexible joints, looking comfortable in space.Fluid change of direction skills in his transition, quickly redirecting. Very good first step with natural bend and closing burst off the edge to flatten to the quarterback. Active and doesn't quit. Uses his length well with violent hand use, using quick mitts to make it tough for blockers to combat them.Physical striker to separate man from ball with the arms to easily wrap and finish. Fiery demeanor and has a good head on his shoulders. Good awareness and experience lining up all over the defenses' front-7, even spending time covering the slot receiver and dropping in coverage. Still growing and sky is the limit with his athletic potential.Weaknesses: Lean and lanky body type. Needs to add bulk to his frame and get stronger, but there are questions about how much weight he can add to his body. Lacks dominant upper body power to win with his hands. Still learning his pass rush moves and needs to develop in this area.Needs to stay controlled, often overrunning the pocket or his intended target. Lacks experience putting his hand on the ground and rushing from a 3-point stance. Lacks a natural position and will be viewed as a defensive end by some and a strong-side linebacker by others.Still raw in a lot of areas and will need time to grow at the next level. Strong durability concerns with various injuries over his career, notably a tender right shoulder that plagued him much of 2012. Only average production at Oregon with just 14.5 career sacksCompares to: Chandler Jones, DE, New England Patriots - Although Jones is stronger and a bit more polished at this point in his development, scouts see that type of potential for Jordan plus he brings much more position versatility and upside.
STRENGTHS: Certainly looks the part. Possesses a naturally large frame with long arms. Impressive athlete. Light on his feet and possesses good balance and flexibility for a man of his size.Very mobile. Often asked to block on the move in this scheme, demonstrating very good lateral agility and straight-line speed, as well as the short-area quickness to adjust and hit the moving target. Flashs some nastiness to his game. Doesn't back down from physical challenges. Has heavy hands and can stun opponents with his initial punch.Keeps his legs driving on contact and can move defenders out of the hole. Enjoyed a solid performance in the Senior Bowl, itself, after missing a few days of practice with the flu. Clear talent and is just scratching the surface of his potential.WEAKNESSES: Isn't the sum of his parts yet. Has rotated between left tackle and left guard over just two seasons playing on the offensive line and has been protected a bit by Oregon's quick-hitting scheme which rarely asks their offensive linemen to maintain blocks for very long.Has a tendency to punch at his defender, rather than latch on and needs to develop better hand placement, in general. Athletic enough to adjust on the fly but lacks experience and is prone to mental errors against surprise stunts, blitzes.Was unable to compete for the most important two days of practice at the Senior Bowl (Tuesday, Wednesday) due to a bout of the flu, missing out on a chance to impress scouts. His DUI charge while at Florida State will have to be investigated by teams.Compares to: Jason Peters, OT, Philadelphia Eagles -- Peters was originally a defensive lineman before making the transition to tight end in college and ultimately emerging as a quality offensive tackle for the Bills (and later signing with the Eagles).His impressive combination of size and athleticism gave him a shot at the NFL despite having no experience as an offensive lineman. Long is similarly large and athletic but has two years head start on Peters and, of course, has his famous family to help him get an opportunity in the league. A team willing to gamble on his significant upside could win big.
Yeah, I don't get the whole "move Nnamdi to safety" thing. Usually a corner moves to safety because his coverage skills have declined, which is the case with Nnamdi. However, unlike Woodson or Ronde Barber, he's not a good tackler and he's never had good ball skills. I just want him out of Philadelphia.Also agreed on Dion Jordan. I'm really starting to like him as the #4 pick if Joeckel is gone. He's versatile with tons of upside.His tackling wont translate into a FS IMO. He's CB or cut. He's not as versatile and not the Charles Woodson we thought we were getting. I'm hoping a fresh start with an actual DC will help him. Hoping anyway.I hope so also. I think Aso could be a good free safety. He has football IQ but at this point it seems he has lost a step.'Bigboy10182000 said:I hope he restructures.'GoBirds said:Wonder if not so Awesomeguy will restructure or get cut?
yea, I don't want any OLB types at #4. Bust rate on these guys way too high..I REALLY liked this guy in college but they can't touch him at 4 now. @terrymc13: Report: Jarvis Jones neck injury a concern: Indications are that spinal stenosis could weigh into draft status. http://t.co/1cNZ7rzGqt
DE - DT - DE Fletcher Cox Antonio Dixon ?????? OLB - ILB - ILB - OLBGraham Kendrics Ryans Trent Cole or FA
Everything I've read about Star L. is that he's a prototypical 3-4 Nose tackle.What's the current concensus of our defensive front 7? These are my assumptions based on what I'm hearing right now. I also just read on PhiladelphiaEagles.com that they're interested in Sean Smith at CB if the price is right. Who are the available 3-4 NT's available in free agency? Will star fit in more as a DE or a DT in the 3-4?
Code:DE - DT - DE Fletcher Cox Antonio Dixon ?????? OLB - ILB - ILB - OLBGraham Kendrics Ryans Trent Cole or FA
Agree and C. Jenkins is the other DEEverything I've read about Star L. is that he's a prototypical 3-4 Nose tackle.What's the current concensus of our defensive front 7? These are my assumptions based on what I'm hearing right now. I also just read on PhiladelphiaEagles.com that they're interested in Sean Smith at CB if the price is right. Who are the available 3-4 NT's available in free agency? Will star fit in more as a DE or a DT in the 3-4?
Code:DE - DT - DE Fletcher Cox Antonio Dixon ?????? OLB - ILB - ILB - OLBGraham Kendrics Ryans Trent Cole or FA
I would love a guy like Sean Smith(6'4 CB), IMO he would be a good combination with someone like DRC(or a similar corner).What's the current concensus of our defensive front 7? These are my assumptions based on what I'm hearing right now. I also just read on PhiladelphiaEagles.com that they're interested in Sean Smith at CB if the price is right. Who are the available 3-4 NT's available in free agency? Will star fit in more as a DE or a DT in the 3-4?
Code:DE - DT - DE Fletcher Cox Antonio Dixon ?????? OLB - ILB - ILB - OLBGraham Kendrics Ryans Trent Cole or FA
Do you guys think we also pick up a backup NT in free agency in case Star is gone by our pick or in case he gets hurt? If so, who's available?Agree and C. Jenkins is the other DEEverything I've read about Star L. is that he's a prototypical 3-4 Nose tackle.What's the current concensus of our defensive front 7? These are my assumptions based on what I'm hearing right now. I also just read on PhiladelphiaEagles.com that they're interested in Sean Smith at CB if the price is right. Who are the available 3-4 NT's available in free agency? Will star fit in more as a DE or a DT in the 3-4?
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Surprised by the Geno number, didnt know he had any speed.@SheilKapadia: Geno Smith runs 4.56, E.J. Manuel 4.62. As a point of reference, Kaepernick ran 4.53. Russell Wilson 4.55.
Only true 3-4 guy I see is Richard Seymour. But I don't know about going after him.Do you guys think we also pick up a backup NT in free agency in case Star is gone by our pick or in case he gets hurt? If so, who's available?Agree and C. Jenkins is the other DEEverything I've read about Star L. is that he's a prototypical 3-4 Nose tackle.What's the current concensus of our defensive front 7? These are my assumptions based on what I'm hearing right now. I also just read on PhiladelphiaEagles.com that they're interested in Sean Smith at CB if the price is right. Who are the available 3-4 NT's available in free agency? Will star fit in more as a DE or a DT in the 3-4?
Code:DE - DT - DE Fletcher Cox Antonio Dixon ?????? OLB - ILB - ILB - OLBGraham Kendrics Ryans Trent Cole or FA
He's a headcase. Do you really want to invest money in someone like that? A better question is does Chip Kelly and Howie Roseman want to invest money in someone like that?I'm surprised that we are not making an effort to resign DRC.He had an excellent camp, and beginning to the season. The wheels started to fall off after Juan got fired. He is extremely talented but needs some good coaching. If we can structure a friendly contract, i think he should definitely come back.
Maybe Terrance Knighton.Only true 3-4 guy I see is Richard Seymour. But I don't know about going after him.Do you guys think we also pick up a backup NT in free agency in case Star is gone by our pick or in case he gets hurt? If so, who's available?Agree and C. Jenkins is the other DEEverything I've read about Star L. is that he's a prototypical 3-4 Nose tackle.What's the current concensus of our defensive front 7? These are my assumptions based on what I'm hearing right now. I also just read on PhiladelphiaEagles.com that they're interested in Sean Smith at CB if the price is right. Who are the available 3-4 NT's available in free agency? Will star fit in more as a DE or a DT in the 3-4?
Code:DE - DT - DE Fletcher Cox Antonio Dixon ?????? OLB - ILB - ILB - OLBGraham Kendrics Ryans Trent Cole or FA
If we pass on Star in round 1 (maybe we get Joeckel or Fischer), do you guys see John Jenkins or Jesse Williams as starting caliber nose tackles?@mortreport: Utah DT Star Lotulelei, projected top five 5 draft pick, will not work out after echocardiogram detected heart condition. Filed to ESPN.
I would think so. I think Jenkins even has a first round grade.If we pass on Star in round 1 (maybe we get Joeckel or Fischer), do you guys see John Jenkins or Jesse Williams as starting caliber nose tackles?@mortreport: Utah DT Star Lotulelei, projected top five 5 draft pick, will not work out after echocardiogram detected heart condition. Filed to ESPN.
I can see both points of view on DRC. On one hand, he was having a Pro Bowl season through 6 weeks and is the only guy we have in the secondary capable of being a very good player. On the other hand, he absolutely tanked the 2nd half of the year, not just from an execution standpoint but the effort level was pitiful at times. Do we really reward a guy with a $10 million, 1 year deal after a showing like that? The biggest culture change the team needs is a restoration of accountability which disappeared over the last 3 years or so. Bringing DRC back probably doesn't help that situation.As long as Nnamdi goes, I'm OK whatever they decide with DRC.Nnamdi simply can't run anymore and doesn't have the awareness of what's going on around him to play zone or even safety, and that's assuming you could trust his tackling. He's an ageing player fading badly and every down he's on the field is a down that could be used by a younger player who might have a future with the team.I have similar feelings about Vick, and if they bring Nnamdi back as well I'll beI'm surprised that we are not making an effort to resign DRC.He had an excellent camp, and beginning to the season. The wheels started to fall off after Juan got fired. He is extremely talented but needs some good coaching. If we can structure a friendly contract, i think he should definitely come back.
Penciling in Dixon is a big assumption. He played himself off the team altogether last offseason by being soft and out of shape. I question whether he has the temperament to be that guy that takes on the double teams all year so others can shine, which would be his role in either a true 3-4 or the 4-3 under.Patterson would be a much better bet, even though it seems he won't be back. Ultimately for this D to work the NT and the SAM definitely and maybe the WILL (or WOLB/DE hybrid in the 43 under) are guys who aren't on the roster yet.Really interested to see who lines up where when the offseason work starts.What's the current concensus of our defensive front 7? These are my assumptions based on what I'm hearing right now. I also just read on PhiladelphiaEagles.com that they're interested in Sean Smith at CB if the price is right. Who are the available 3-4 NT's available in free agency? Will star fit in more as a DE or a DT in the 3-4?
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Im a huge homer, but PLEASE do not be upset of Phi drafts Geno with the 1.04. Ive watched him for 4 years and we could do A LOT worse.... side question for the Eagles fans here ...Would it be a complete meltdown to draft Tavon at the 1.04? Maybe trade down to the 1.12 for him? I kid I kid@SheilKapadia: Geno Smith runs 4.56, E.J. Manuel 4.62. As a point of reference, Kaepernick ran 4.53. Russell Wilson 4.55.
I didn't want Vick either, but at the very least, I do think he'll have to earn his job (Chip Kelly isn't married to him the way Reid was). And IF he wins the job, I think a heavier running game (or any kind of balance, really) and quick passes will help him out tremendously. Nnamdi, however, can't really be protected by a scheme. The only way to use him is by having safety help over the top every play, which basically means you only have one safety. We don't have one safety worth a lick, let alone two.Speaking of Nnamdi, a recount of his unbelievably 2012 season. http://bloggingthebeast.com/2013/02/24/relive-the-eagles-2012-season-through-the-eyes-of-nnamdi-asomugha/I have similar feelings about Vick, and if they bring Nnamdi back as well I'll beI'm surprised that we are not making an effort to resign DRC.He had an excellent camp, and beginning to the season. The wheels started to fall off after Juan got fired. He is extremely talented but needs some good coaching. If we can structure a friendly contract, i think he should definitely come back.![]()
Just read this. So crazy. I be this costs him 10mil guaranteed@mortreport: Utah DT Star Lotulelei, projected top five 5 draft pick, will not work out after echocardiogram detected heart condition. Filed to ESPN.