*2014-15 Hot Stove Thread: The Padres won it I guess (4 Viewers)

[Da Gildz]

Matt Joyce has a higher OPS then Mike Trout in innings 4-6 ...maybe they should sub him in there for Trout those innings

Then Cowgill can replace Joyce for 7-9, he also has a dynamite extra inning OPS

I'm going to need some stats to back this up.

Crunching the W/L ratios as we speak.

Thanks.

You sure don't want to see more PM's? You ate that up. TMZ must be a bookmark on your phone. No question.

But yea that is something though huh? Trout/Joyce/Cowgill > 9 innings of Trout.

 

[Limp Ditka]

WTF?!?!?

Does everyone around here, except for me, get PMs from Glenda?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

WTF?!?!?

Does everyone around here, except for me, get PMs from Glenda?

Yes

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Todd Frazier just beat Miggy in MLB's Face Of MLB contest.

where did eric sogard finish

Doolittle is the A's rep this year. He faces Yadier Molina in Rd 2, after dispatching pint-sized challenger Jose Altuve in Round 1. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/awards/y2014/faceofmlb/

In actual A's news, I guess they're after this other Cuban 2B Olivera pretty hard.

Your face is the face of ML... wait...

 

[Da Gildz]

WTF?!?!?

Does everyone around here, except for me, get PMs from Glenda?

I don't pm anyone from Buffalo. They're a strange group.

 

[Eephus]

I don't PM buffaloes because they can't reply with their cloven hooves

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

WTF?!?!?

Does everyone around here, except for me, get PMs from Glenda?

I don't pm anyone from Buffalo. They're a strange group.

O RLY?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Framing!

http://grantland.com/features/brad-asumus-pitch-framing-dennis-eckersley/

 

[Limp Ditka]

WTF?!?!?

Does everyone around here, except for me, get PMs from Glenda?

I don't pm anyone from Buffalo. They're a strange group.

O RLY?

 

[Limp Ditka]

I don't PM buffaloes because they can't reply with their cloven hooves

Words to live by

 

[Frostillicus]

Thanks to this thread, I now know Matt Joyce is on the Angels. Thank you.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Matt Joyce hits like James Joyce.

 

[Eephus]

Thanks to this thread, I now know Matt Joyce is on the Angels. Thank you.

Gobbler research fail

 

[Frostillicus]

Actually, in their careers Trout has a higher OPS than Joyce in every inning other than the sixth, and it's by such a slim margin and Trout is so much better in 7+ that it wouldn't make any sense to replace him. Cowgill, on the other hand, is better than Trout in 2, 6, and 7, but again, Trout dwarfs him in 8-9 so I don't think that would work either. Cowgill does have nearly double the OPS in extras that Trout does though, so I think you're right that bringing Cowgill in in extra innings makes sense.

I used career numbers here. Using just one season would be ridiculous.

 

[Eephus]

Matt Joyce hits like James Joyce.

James Joyce may have been legally blind but he did better against LHP than Matt.

 

[Da Gildz]

Actually, in their careers Trout has a higher OPS than Joyce in every inning other than the sixth, and it's by such a slim margin and Trout is so much better in 7+ that it wouldn't make any sense to replace him. Cowgill, on the other hand, is better than Trout in 2, 6, and 7, but again, Trout dwarfs him in 8-9 so I don't think that would work either. Cowgill does have nearly double the OPS in extras that Trout does though, so I think you're right that bringing Cowgill in in extra innings makes sense.

I used career numbers here. Using just one season would be ridiculous.

Yes definitely sub in Cowgill for Trout in extras.

We agree there

 

[Annyong]

I want a sub now. Meatball maybe.

 

[RnR]

Matt Joyce has a higher OPS then Mike Trout in innings 4-6 ...maybe they should sub him in there for Trout those innings

Then Cowgill can replace Joyce for 7-9, he also has a dynamite extra inning OPS

I'm going to need some stats to back this up.

Crunching the W/L ratios as we speak.

Thanks.

You sure don't want to see more PM's? You ate that up. TMZ must be a bookmark on your phone. No question.

But yea that is something though huh? Trout/Joyce/Cowgill > 9 innings of Trout.

Of course it is. You have a better suggestion for keeping up with the Kardashians?

 

[Hilts]

The stove has never been so hot.

 

[Da Gildz]

Matt Joyce has a higher OPS then Mike Trout in innings 4-6 ...maybe they should sub him in there for Trout those innings

Then Cowgill can replace Joyce for 7-9, he also has a dynamite extra inning OPS

I'm going to need some stats to back this up.

Crunching the W/L ratios as we speak.

Thanks.

You sure don't want to see more PM's? You ate that up. TMZ must be a bookmark on your phone. No question.

But yea that is something though huh? Trout/Joyce/Cowgill > 9 innings of Trout.

Of course it is. You have a better suggestion for keeping up with the Kardashians?

 

[Northern Voice]

I read somewhere that Weeks is expected to try to play LF and RF with the Mariners.

I can't understand why the Jays weren't in on a guy like Weeks for 1 yr, 2 mil. They are entering camp with Maicer Izturis and Ryan Goins as 2B options. He'd be a huge offensive upgrade for a small commitment.

I don't understand why you get Donaldson and Martin (plus obv Bau/Edwin/Reyes) and then refuse to spend a few million here or there for a capable second baseman, some bullpen help and some outfield insurance. It would take so little to put the finishing touches on this roster (assuming you like the young arms in the rotation) but they pinch pennies. I guess I hope Devon Travis steals the job in camp...

 

[Eephus]

I read somewhere that Weeks is expected to try to play LF and RF with the Mariners.

I can't understand why the Jays weren't in on a guy like Weeks for 1 yr, 2 mil. They are entering camp with Maicer Izturis and Ryan Goins as 2B options. He'd be a huge offensive upgrade for a small commitment.

I don't understand why you get Donaldson and Martin (plus obv Bau/Edwin/Reyes) and then refuse to spend a few million here or there for a capable second baseman, some bullpen help and some outfield insurance. It would take so little to put the finishing touches on this roster (assuming you like the young arms in the rotation) but they pinch pennies. I guess I hope Devon Travis steals the job in camp...

You have to be patient. Toronto has only had three years to address their 2B problems.

 

[Eephus]

The Astros signed Roberto Hernandez nee Fausto Carmona for some reason.

Unfortunately, it's too late for the Gobbler

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Would Fausto pitch in AAA? I assume.

Speaking of, if you're a vet and you're willing to accept some AAA time and hope/wait for injury failure do you go with the easiest AAA league on pitchers, location or best opportunity for call up? I'm thinking location of AAA squad...

 

[tommyGunZ]

Framing!

http://grantland.com/features/brad-asumus-pitch-framing-dennis-eckersley/

Austin Hedges = Greek god of framing.

Really hope Preller manages to hold onto him. Move Norris to 1B in 2016 and let him catch 30 games a year to give Austin a rest.

 

[Eephus]

Would Fausto pitch in AAA? I assume.

Speaking of, if you're a vet and you're willing to accept some AAA time and hope/wait for injury failure do you go with the easiest AAA league on pitchers, location or best opportunity for call up? I'm thinking location of AAA squad...

I think the opportunity to break camp with the big club would take priority. I don't know the details of Hernandez' deal but a lot of veteran NRI contracts have a player option to opt-out after spring training. If he gets in shape and shows good stuff in exhibitions, he could upgrade to a better situation in a couple of months. Or he could continue to suck.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Would Fausto pitch in AAA? I assume.

Speaking of, if you're a vet and you're willing to accept some AAA time and hope/wait for injury failure do you go with the easiest AAA league on pitchers, location or best opportunity for call up? I'm thinking location of AAA squad...

I think the opportunity to break camp with the big club would take priority. I don't know the details of Hernandez' deal but a lot of veteran NRI contracts have a player option to opt-out after spring training. If he gets in shape and shows good stuff in exhibitions, he could upgrade to a better situation in a couple of months. Or he could continue to suck.

I think that's the logical answer, sure.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Framing!

http://grantland.com/features/brad-asumus-pitch-framing-dennis-eckersley/

Austin Hedges = Greek god of framing.

Really hope Preller manages to hold onto him. Move Norris to 1B in 2016 and let him catch 30 games a year to give Austin a rest.

Besides being an average (at best) pitch-framer with a noodle-arm, Norris doesn't really "hit" righties, per se. He also has nil experience at 1B.

But, you know, cool beard.

 

[Eephus]

Would Fausto pitch in AAA? I assume.

Speaking of, if you're a vet and you're willing to accept some AAA time and hope/wait for injury failure do you go with the easiest AAA league on pitchers, location or best opportunity for call up? I'm thinking location of AAA squad...

I think the opportunity to break camp with the big club would take priority. I don't know the details of Hernandez' deal but a lot of veteran NRI contracts have a player option to opt-out after spring training. If he gets in shape and shows good stuff in exhibitions, he could upgrade to a better situation in a couple of months. Or he could continue to suck.

I think that's the logical answer, sure.

On the other hand, I just picked a Twin in round 4.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Framing!

http://grantland.com/features/brad-asumus-pitch-framing-dennis-eckersley/

Austin Hedges = Greek god of framing.

Really hope Preller manages to hold onto him. Move Norris to 1B in 2016 and let him catch 30 games a year to give Austin a rest.

Besides being an average (at best) pitch-framer with a noodle-arm, Norris doesn't really "hit" righties, per se. He also has nil experience at 1B.

But, you know, cool beard.

Norris was an elite pitch framer in the minors in 2012, was good again in 2013, then had a bad year in 2014. As long as he hits .270 overall and his BB:K ratio is ~ 2:3, we'll find room for him.

Good luck with the Stephen Vogt era.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Framing!

http://grantland.com/features/brad-asumus-pitch-framing-dennis-eckersley/

Austin Hedges = Greek god of framing.

Really hope Preller manages to hold onto him. Move Norris to 1B in 2016 and let him catch 30 games a year to give Austin a rest.

Besides being an average (at best) pitch-framer with a noodle-arm, Norris doesn't really "hit" righties, per se. He also has nil experience at 1B.

But, you know, cool beard.

Norris was an elite pitch framer in the minors in 2012, was good again in 2013, then had a bad year in 2014. As long as he hits .270 overall and his BB:K ratio is ~ 2:3, we'll find room for him.

Good luck with the Stephen Vogt era.

VOGT/PHEGLEY ERA.

Good luck with the guy who engineered the Kinsler-for-Fielder trade.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Framing!http://grantland.com/features/brad-asumus-pitch-framing-dennis-eckersley/

Austin Hedges = Greek god of framing.

Really hope Preller manages to hold onto him. Move Norris to 1B in 2016 and let him catch 30 games a year to give Austin a rest.

Besides being an average (at best) pitch-framer with a noodle-arm, Norris doesn't really "hit" righties, per se. He also has nil experience at 1B.

But, you know, cool beard.

Norris was an elite pitch framer in the minors in 2012, was good again in 2013, then had a bad year in 2014. As long as he hits .270 overall and his BB:K ratio is ~ 2:3, we'll find room for him.

Good luck with the Stephen Vogt era.

VOGT/PHEGLEY ERA.

Good luck with the guy who engineered the Kinsler-for-Fielder trade.

Friendly twenty-twin-twin on most wins between our cheapskate franchises this year?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Framing!http://grantland.com/features/brad-asumus-pitch-framing-dennis-eckersley/

Austin Hedges = Greek god of framing.

Really hope Preller manages to hold onto him. Move Norris to 1B in 2016 and let him catch 30 games a year to give Austin a rest.

Besides being an average (at best) pitch-framer with a noodle-arm, Norris doesn't really "hit" righties, per se. He also has nil experience at 1B.

But, you know, cool beard.

Norris was an elite pitch framer in the minors in 2012, was good again in 2013, then had a bad year in 2014. As long as he hits .270 overall and his BB:K ratio is ~ 2:3, we'll find room for him.

Good luck with the Stephen Vogt era.

VOGT/PHEGLEY ERA.

Good luck with the guy who engineered the Kinsler-for-Fielder trade.

Friendly twenty-twin-twin on most wins between our cheapskate franchises this year?

$222? That seems like a lot.

How about $20 on this year, $20 on 2016.

 

[tommyGunZ]

20 per season on the next two seasons it is, GPG.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

20 per season on the next two seasons it is, GPG.

You should make a bet with Eephus too, he had a skywriter put "KI$$ THE RINGZ, DOOD" over my house the other day.

 

[tommyGunZ]

20 per season on the next two seasons it is, GPG.

You should make a bet with Eephus too, he had a skywriter put "KI$$ THE RINGZ, DOOD" over my house the other day.

Perhaps more awesome than the strip clubs skywriting above Torrey a few years back with Tiger was in town.

 

[Eephus]

Eric Young Jr. signs with the Braves. He has to beat out Zoilo Almonte and Kelly Johnson to be a source of cheap SB this year.

 

[MAC_32]

Eric Young Jr. signs with the Braves. He has to beat out Zoilo Almonte and Kelly Johnson to be a source of cheap SB this year.

i can't quit you EY, why won't you just go away?

 

[Eephus]

Eric Young Jr. signs with the Braves. He has to beat out Zoilo Almonte and Kelly Johnson to be a source of cheap SB this year.

i can't quit you EY, why won't you just go away?

I've had him on my team more times than I'd ever admit

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Are "cheap [any category]" ever really a good idea? You solve one problem, but you're making everything else worse.

 

[Eephus]

Are "cheap [any category]" ever really a good idea? You solve one problem, but you're making everything else worse.

I'm a big believer in banking cheap SB and SV if you can get them.

If he gets regular playing time, Junior Young is ++ in steals and + in runs if he bats at the top of the order. He's pretty much neutral in OBP leagues. He used to be better when he had 2B eligibility potential and half his games in Coors. Obviously you wouldn't want to bench a stud for him but a SB is a SB and it never comes off the board in roto.

Crap closers are more of a tradeoff but really only in WHIP. Their ERA downside risk is limited by the situations they're used in. Most closers except Joe Borowski are above average in K/9 and wins are a moving violation.

 

[MAC_32]

Are "cheap [any category]" ever really a good idea? You solve one problem, but you're making everything else worse.

i don't like to plan on them in March, but i like to call upon them if in a jam in May.

 

[Frostillicus]

Are "cheap [any category]" ever really a good idea? You solve one problem, but you're making everything else worse.

What about sluts?

 

[Annyong]

I think the rule holds true

 

[Captain Hook]

Are "cheap [any category]" ever really a good idea? You solve one problem, but you're making everything else worse.

Pair them together with a player who is great in the categories they are deficient in ...

Who is this player?

24 HR, 75 R, 72 RBI, 24 SB, 270+ BA

Pretty useful in roto

 

[Annyong]

Are "cheap [any category]" ever really a good idea? You solve one problem, but you're making everything else worse.

Pair them together with a player who is great in the categories they are deficient in ...Who is this player?

24 HR, 75 R, 72 RBI, 24 SB, 270+ BA

Pretty useful in roto

Tim Duncan?

 

[Eephus]

Are "cheap [any category]" ever really a good idea? You solve one problem, but you're making everything else worse.

Pair them together with a player who is great in the categories they are deficient in ...Who is this player?

24 HR, 75 R, 72 RBI, 24 SB, 270+ BA

Pretty useful in roto

Tim Duncan?

Milton Bradley?

 

[RnR]

Are "cheap [any category]" ever really a good idea? You solve one problem, but you're making everything else worse.

Pair them together with a player who is great in the categories they are deficient in ...

Who is this player?

24 HR, 75 R, 72 RBI, 24 SB, 270+ BA

Pretty useful in roto

Macgyver32's super platoon at UTL using only Chris Colabello, Eric Young Jr., Mike Aviles, a rubber band and some chewing gum?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Are "cheap [any category]" ever really a good idea? You solve one problem, but you're making everything else worse.

Pair them together with a player who is great in the categories they are deficient in ...Who is this player?

24 HR, 75 R, 72 RBI, 24 SB, 270+ BA

Pretty useful in roto

A top 5 SS useful in roto? Whoda thunk?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Are "cheap [any category]" ever really a good idea? You solve one problem, but you're making everything else worse.

Pair them together with a player who is great in the categories they are deficient in ...

Who is this player?

24 HR, 75 R, 72 RBI, 24 SB, 270+ BA

Pretty useful in roto

Are you platooning these two players? Or are they both regular starters? There's a big difference between getting those stats (any stats) out of just one guy, and getting them combined from two guys.