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2014 NHL Offseason Thread - Free Agency Starts July 1st (1 Viewer)

So is Garrison any good? Lightning twitter seems happy.
He was good for the 3 or 4 seasons before last year,he really struggled possession wise last season. Only one bad year though, so reasonable chance he bounces back, good pickup, like every player these days, his contract might look bad in a couple years.

 
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VAN trades 3rd round pick acquired in Kesler deal to NYR for Derek Dorsett. So add Dorsett to VAN's return on Kesler.


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Canucks wheeling and dealing!##!#!
 
Bonino is not a top 6 guy
Kesler barely is these days...
:lmao:
He's not 2011 Kesler, and I'll say he never will be again.
???

He was one of USA's best player at Sochi. Bylsma had him on the #1 line with Kane. I have watched Kesler for 10 years now and when he's on he is a game changer. He does everything, PP, PK . He can play up and down the line up. 1st line wing, 2nd line center or he can play 3rd line and shut down roll. He basically made Toews disappear every time the Canucks played Hawks.
You're seriously going to say you think Kesler's play the last 3 years has matched his level of play in the 3 years before that? Come on. He's 29 and had two shoulder surgeries and a hip surgery. The style he plays means even when he is in the lineup, half the time he's playing hurt. He has been and can be a game changer but to say he has been that consistently the past three seasons is a stretch.
How many Canucks games do you even watch? Seriously

1 shoulder surg, 1 wrist, 1 hip. The shoulder injury may be something to be concerned about but the hip and wrist are fully healed and haven't and wont affect his play.

 
So is Garrison any good? Lightning twitter seems happy.
He was decent two years ago and could be a solid 5 or 6 d-man on any team. He has a booming shot and pretty reliable in his own end but he can be frustrating because he's a big guy ( 6'2" 225lbs) who doesn't really use his size. He really struggled at times last year picking up Torts' system but so did the rest of the team

 
Bonino is not a top 6 guy
Kesler barely is these days...
:lmao:
He's not 2011 Kesler, and I'll say he never will be again.
???

He was one of USA's best player at Sochi. Bylsma had him on the #1 line with Kane. I have watched Kesler for 10 years now and when he's on he is a game changer. He does everything, PP, PK . He can play up and down the line up. 1st line wing, 2nd line center or he can play 3rd line and shut down roll. He basically made Toews disappear every time the Canucks played Hawks.
You're seriously going to say you think Kesler's play the last 3 years has matched his level of play in the 3 years before that? Come on. He's 29 and had two shoulder surgeries and a hip surgery. The style he plays means even when he is in the lineup, half the time he's playing hurt. He has been and can be a game changer but to say he has been that consistently the past three seasons is a stretch.
How many Canucks games do you even watch? Seriously

1 shoulder surg, 1 wrist, 1 hip. The shoulder injury may be something to be concerned about but the hip and wrist are fully healed and haven't and wont affect his play.
If the injuries aren't an ongoing issue, the back to back 40 point seasons are even more concerning.

 
Bonino is not a top 6 guy
Kesler barely is these days...
:lmao:
He's not 2011 Kesler, and I'll say he never will be again.
???

He was one of USA's best player at Sochi. Bylsma had him on the #1 line with Kane. I have watched Kesler for 10 years now and when he's on he is a game changer. He does everything, PP, PK . He can play up and down the line up. 1st line wing, 2nd line center or he can play 3rd line and shut down roll. He basically made Toews disappear every time the Canucks played Hawks.
You're seriously going to say you think Kesler's play the last 3 years has matched his level of play in the 3 years before that? Come on. He's 29 and had two shoulder surgeries and a hip surgery. The style he plays means even when he is in the lineup, half the time he's playing hurt. He has been and can be a game changer but to say he has been that consistently the past three seasons is a stretch.
How many Canucks games do you even watch? Seriously

1 shoulder surg, 1 wrist, 1 hip. The shoulder injury may be something to be concerned about but the hip and wrist are fully healed and haven't and wont affect his play.
If the injuries aren't an ongoing issue, the back to back 40 point seasons are even more concerning.
His play against the worlds best in Sochi isn't concerning though.

 
Bonino is not a top 6 guy
Kesler barely is these days...
:lmao:
He's not 2011 Kesler, and I'll say he never will be again.
???

He was one of USA's best player at Sochi. Bylsma had him on the #1 line with Kane. I have watched Kesler for 10 years now and when he's on he is a game changer. He does everything, PP, PK . He can play up and down the line up. 1st line wing, 2nd line center or he can play 3rd line and shut down roll. He basically made Toews disappear every time the Canucks played Hawks.
You're seriously going to say you think Kesler's play the last 3 years has matched his level of play in the 3 years before that? Come on. He's 29 and had two shoulder surgeries and a hip surgery. The style he plays means even when he is in the lineup, half the time he's playing hurt. He has been and can be a game changer but to say he has been that consistently the past three seasons is a stretch.
How many Canucks games do you even watch? Seriously

1 shoulder surg, 1 wrist, 1 hip. The shoulder injury may be something to be concerned about but the hip and wrist are fully healed and haven't and wont affect his play.
If the injuries aren't an ongoing issue, the back to back 40 point seasons are even more concerning.
His play against the worlds best in Sochi isn't concerning though.
Congrats to him on shining alongside Patrick Kane. Bryan Bickell can do that too, doesn't make him a star.

 
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Maloney said this move was purely about behavioral issues and not cost-saving move. Ribeiro has been seeking help this summer, Maloney said.

‏@LynchOnSports 5m
As per my last RT I've heard from others over the years about Mike Ribeiro's "issues" Even dating back to his time in Montreal and Dallas.

 
A bit of a #### move by Maloney calling out Ribeiro's "issues". Will make it tough for him to find his next team. He's far from the only guy in the league with those "issues"....

 
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nhl/coyotes/2014/06/27/arizona-coyotes-buy-out-mike-ribeiro-contract/11535665/
"Mike had some real behavior issues last year with us I felt we could not tolerate going forward," General Manager Don Maloney said. "To his credit, he has been getting help this offseason and obviously would hope he continues. But at the end of the year and all the background checking and what happened, we felt that for us to move forward, we couldn't have him a part of this team."

Since Ribeiro's contract was signed under the newest collective bargaining agreement, this is a regular buyout and not a compliance one – which would have alleviated his cap hit.

Instead, Ribeiro will be paid approximately $1.94 million for the next six years, according to capgeek.com. He was set to earn $17.5 million more from the Coyotes after signing a four-year, $22 million contract last summer as the team's prized free agent pickup – filling a void as their No.1 center.

This move saves approximately $3.55 million in cash this season and overall, the team saves about $5.833 million.

"We realize this is a fairly significant cost to us, but we also know we have to have certain people and leaders here to make us successful and certain levels of behavior we'll tolerate," Maloney said. "Hey, we all have our issues and no one's an angel. When we're looking at older players, there's certain things we accept and certain things we can't and it doesn't matter how much they make. They have to do the right thing for the organization, and we feel this is the right thing."

The Coyotes signed Ribeiro hours after the free agency period opened July 5 last year. His previous relationship with coach Dave Tippett seemed to calm any potential worries about how he'd assimilate into this group – on and off the ice.

"We weren't naïve to some of the issues of the past, but we felt it could be manageable and managed," Maloney said. "Obviously, it was a mistake."

Ribeiro struggled to find chemistry with linemates and despite some early success, his performance last season wasn't up to snuff. He tallied 16 goals and 47 points and was even benched for two games in the midst of the team's playoff push.

His absence leaves the Coyotes, once again, searching for a No.1 center.

"This doesn't necessarily make us a better team next year per say, but it makes us a better organization in the long-term and that's what we're looking for – long-term success," Maloney said. "Obviously, now we have some holes we have to fill. We do have some financial flexibility to do that, and that's what we're searching to do."

When asked if another move could happen Friday, Maloney said, "Not yet. Not right now. It's interesting times, but there's just lots going on."
 
Dear god serious rumors flying the Flyers are pushing hard for the first overall. Like dismantling #### to get it done. This is terrifying.

 
Bonino is not a top 6 guy
Kesler barely is these days...
:lmao:
He's not 2011 Kesler, and I'll say he never will be again.
???

He was one of USA's best player at Sochi. Bylsma had him on the #1 line with Kane. I have watched Kesler for 10 years now and when he's on he is a game changer. He does everything, PP, PK . He can play up and down the line up. 1st line wing, 2nd line center or he can play 3rd line and shut down roll. He basically made Toews disappear every time the Canucks played Hawks.
You're seriously going to say you think Kesler's play the last 3 years has matched his level of play in the 3 years before that? Come on. He's 29 and had two shoulder surgeries and a hip surgery. The style he plays means even when he is in the lineup, half the time he's playing hurt. He has been and can be a game changer but to say he has been that consistently the past three seasons is a stretch.
How many Canucks games do you even watch? Seriously

1 shoulder surg, 1 wrist, 1 hip. The shoulder injury may be something to be concerned about but the hip and wrist are fully healed and haven't and wont affect his play.
If the injuries aren't an ongoing issue, the back to back 40 point seasons are even more concerning.
His play against the worlds best in Sochi isn't concerning though.
Congrats to him on shining alongside Patrick Kane. Bryan Bickell can do that too, doesn't make him a star.
If he's on the Olympic roster then it kinda does. Bickell is a flash in the pan. Are you suggesting Keler is a flash in the pan?

 
His play against the worlds best in Sochi isn't concerning though.
Congrats to him on shining alongside Patrick Kane. Bryan Bickell can do that too, doesn't make him a star.
If he's on the Olympic roster then it kinda does. Bickell is a flash in the pan. Are you suggesting Keler is a flash in the pan?
I'm suggesting Kelser probably wasn't the player driving the effectiveness of that line. Let's not forget it was the American Olympic roster... they didn't even win a medal. It's not like he played for Canada.

 
‏@TSNBobMcKenzie now

VAN trades 3rd round pick acquired in Kesler deal to NYR for Derek Dorsett. So add Dorsett to VAN's return on Kesler.

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Canucks wheeling and dealing!##!#!
not sure I get thisAlso, how can teams not know what the cap will be. How do you operate a business like that

 
‏@TSNBobMcKenzie now

VAN trades 3rd round pick acquired in Kesler deal to NYR for Derek Dorsett. So add Dorsett to VAN's return on Kesler.

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Canucks wheeling and dealing!##!#!
not sure I get thisAlso, how can teams not know what the cap will be. How do you operate a business like that
I think they needed the final revenue numbers from the cup finals, since it's based on league revenue. Not ideal, but not sure there's a way around it with the CBA.

 
‏@TSNBobMcKenzie now

VAN trades 3rd round pick acquired in Kesler deal to NYR for Derek Dorsett. So add Dorsett to VAN's return on Kesler.

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Canucks wheeling and dealing!##!#!
not sure I get thisAlso, how can teams not know what the cap will be. How do you operate a business like that
I think they needed the final revenue numbers from the cup finals, since it's based on league revenue. Not ideal, but not sure there's a way around it with the CBA.
why cant it be fixed. Players opposed to it? But it can go down so one in the hand no?
 
Acer, cap is tied to revenues. Takes them a bit to sort that stuff out and the season just ended not too long ago.

It's part of the CBA. Both sides negotiated this.

 
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Just seems odd. I know everyone is playing under same rules but how do you give contracts without knowing year to year

Its old news, no need to answer. On to the draft. Hope you get the guy you want rude, and everyone else.

 
Just seems odd. I know everyone is playing under same rules but how do you give contracts without knowing year to year

Its old news, no need to answer. On to the draft. Hope you get the guy you want rude, and everyone else.
free agency hasn't started yet. nobody is forcing teams to hand out contracts now.

 
Florida may regret passing on 6/24/Shinkaruk for #1 overall
it's a good offer, but 1 to 6 seems like a big dropoff this year. maybe not though.

not sure Couver can really afford to be trading away 3 solid pieces for 1 either.

 
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if Reinhart is the Canucks target and Florida is taking Ekblad, that must mean the Sabres are taking Reinhart at 2 (I hope)

no way the Sabres would need a deal like what Couver is offering.

 
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Why wouldn't Sabres take that VAN deal and get Dal Colle/Draisaitl at 6 and more picks

 
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Why wouldn't Sabres take that VAN deal and get Dal Colle and more picks
Sabres have TONS of picks. They need elite top-line talent.

Reinhart is the guy I hope.

not saying he'll be MacKinnon but would you have traded the Avs pick a year ago for a package like that?

 
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I think it's a mistake to take a D-Man this early, and especially 1st overall. I know it works out, but I'd rather be looking for the high end offensive talent in the top 10.

 
no surprises so far.

Draisaitl to Edmonton. Could be a great pick for them.

German Gretzky!

 
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Just seems odd. I know everyone is playing under same rules but how do you give contracts without knowing year to year

Its old news, no need to answer. On to the draft. Hope you get the guy you want rude, and everyone else.
free agency hasn't started yet. nobody is forcing teams to hand out contracts now.
The NFL has a similar approach, I believe. Remember a lot of talk this past offseason about the cap being much higher than expected, which led to a lot of spending.

 
Bennett and Monahan should be a nice start for the Flames rebuild

Bennett gets compared to Gilmour the most. Good fit there given the history.

 
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If Ritchie is there and the Canes don't take him I will blow a gasket. If we take Kapanen I will shoot myself.

 
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