2014 Oakland Raiders Regular Season Thread (2 Viewers)

[Raider Nation]

I know how these types of posts come across (i.e. lame) but I'm stating it anyway: I'm out. I'm turning in my shield and walking away from the Raiders.

I think I had pretty realistic expectations coming into this year, as I'm not one of those "we could win the division this year!" chuckleheads. So it's not an 0-2 start that kills me, but the manner in which it's happened. Year in and year it it's the same gutless, brainless play from this same group of underachievers. Al's dead and buried, so no point blaming him anymore. There as an institutional rot with this franchise that goes way beyond one man. And I simply can't take it anymore. I get absolutely no joy whatsoever out of supporting the Raiders franchise, and I refuse to pour any more of my money or emotions into a franchise that is beyond clueless.

I can't endure another year of looking forward to the draft before Halloween gets here. I can't stand turning on a game and waiting for something bad to happen. Life is too short for that crap.

If this means I'm not loyal, not diehard, or not a real man, then so be it. I'm way past the point of caring about that. I watch sports and follow teams to escape from the drudgeries of daily life, not to multiply them. And after three decades of following Raider football, it's just time for me to move on.

For those who stay with Oakland (and I know I'm in the minority), I really hope the Raiders turn it around for you. I certainly wish you and the team no ill will. But the way I see it, this franchise does not deserve the unwavering loyalty they have gotten from so many for so long.

Can't blame you one bit. Good luck.

 

[Raider Nation]

Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 1h

Allen said they’ll look at everything to turn this around, including him possibly getting more involved/taking over defensive play-calling

That should solve everything.

Same players, right?

 

[Raider Nation]

After carefully analyzing the matchups on both sides of the ball this week, I see the Patriots winning by no more than 150 points.

 

[joey]

Full-size Ditkas? Or mini-Ditkas?

 

[RaiderBones]

After carefully analyzing the matchups on both sides of the ball this week, I see the Patriots winning by no more than 150 points.

So your taking the under then?

 

[Bruno2]

After carefully analyzing the matchups on both sides of the ball this week, I see the Patriots winning by no more than 150 points.

So your taking the under then?

Even when the Pats rest their starters in the 2nd half?

 

[DA RAIDERS]

i'm running out of steam as well. just horrible play, year after year. sucks

 

[RaiderBones]

Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 2h

“@JoshDubowAP: Here's a positive #Raiders stat: have been penalized for 44 yards, fewest in NFL” >> #positivity

 

[kaso]

Carr and the absence of penalties are the only thing keeping my interest this season. Carr desperately needs to start getting some help from the rest of the team, including the coaches. I'm terribly disappointed with the play calling, and with the lack of involvement of Reece, especially without having a true TE to rely on.

The comments we have all made over the last decade on the D remain the same through 2 games in 2014. Players aren't tackling, and there needs to be a leader on and off the field to get things turned around. I had hoped that Woodson was going to be that guy, but it may now be evident that the rest of the team isn't willing to buy in.... I really don't know.

 

[Bruno2]

Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 2h

@JoshDubowAP: Here's a positive #Raiders stat: have been penalized for 44 yards, fewest in NFL >> #positivity[/quote

The offense doesn't stay on the field long enough to incur the normal false starts and holding penalties. And teams are running through the defense so no need to pass as much which means less PI and defensive holding penalties.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

So that's a false positive?

 

[Bruno2]

So that's a false positive?

Or just my negative opinion. But it makes sense to me. It can't be due their excellent play on field lol.

 

[Raider Nation]

Carr and the absence of penalties are the only thing keeping my interest this season.

This made me laugh.

I can now walk around proudly with my chest puffed out, telling everyone that We Don't Commit Penalties.

 

[RaiderBones]

Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 2h

@JoshDubowAP: Here's a positive #Raiders stat: have been penalized for 44 yards, fewest in NFL >> #positivity[/quote

The offense doesn't stay on the field long enough to incur the normal false starts and holding penalties. And teams are running through the defense so no need to pass as much which means less PI and defensive holding penalties.

Way to turn a positive into a negative.

 

[kaso]

Carr and the absence of penalties are the only thing keeping my interest this season.

This made me laugh.

I can now walk around proudly with my chest puffed out, telling everyone that We Don't Commit Penalties.

Well I'm closer to getting a jersey with "No Penalties" on it than any current Raider...

Rereading my initial statement is pretty funny. Of course I was grasping at straws and simply making a comparison to years/decades past.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Carr and the absence of penalties are the only thing keeping my interest this season.

This made me laugh.

I can now walk around proudly with my chest puffed out, telling everyone that We Don't Commit Penalties.

and we're cap friendly!

 

[RaiderBones]

Dennis Allen’s job security already in question in Oakland

Posted by Michael David Smith on September 15, 2014, 6:36 PM EDT

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/15/dennis-allens-job-security-already-in-question-in-oakland/

Raiders coach Dennis Allen was already on the hot seat before the season started. That’s what happens when you go 4-12 in each of your first two seasons.

But after an 0-2 start succinctly summed up by Charles Woodson saying, “We suck,” the question is less whether this will be Allen’s last season in Oakland and more whether Allen will even make it to the end of the season.

Raiders owner Mark Davis is already privately expressing his displeasure, according to CSNBayArea.com, to the point where Allen’s tenure as Raiders coach may come to an end this season. According to the report, the Raiders already have a plan to promote offensive line coach Tony Sparano to head coach if Allen gets fired during the season. Sparano spent four seasons as head coach of the Dolphins and is a more experienced coach than Allen.

Allen knows his team needs to get better.

“We need change,” Allen said after Sunday’s loss to Houston. “We need to do better, because we’re a better football team than what we put out on the field today.”

Allen is running out of time to show he’s a better football coach than what his team has put on the field in his first two-plus seasons.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I know how these types of posts come across (i.e. lame) but I'm stating it anyway: I'm out. I'm turning in my shield and walking away from the Raiders.

I think I had pretty realistic expectations coming into this year, as I'm not one of those "we could win the division this year!" chuckleheads. So it's not an 0-2 start that kills me, but the manner in which it's happened. Year in and year it it's the same gutless, brainless play from this same group of underachievers. Al's dead and buried, so no point blaming him anymore. There as an institutional rot with this franchise that goes way beyond one man. And I simply can't take it anymore. I get absolutely no joy whatsoever out of supporting the Raiders franchise, and I refuse to pour any more of my money or emotions into a franchise that is beyond clueless.

I can't endure another year of looking forward to the draft before Halloween gets here. I can't stand turning on a game and waiting for something bad to happen. Life is too short for that crap.

If this means I'm not loyal, not diehard, or not a real man, then so be it. I'm way past the point of caring about that. I watch sports and follow teams to escape from the drudgeries of daily life, not to multiply them. And after three decades of following Raider football, it's just time for me to move on.

For those who stay with Oakland (and I know I'm in the minority), I really hope the Raiders turn it around for you. I certainly wish you and the team no ill will. But the way I see it, this franchise does not deserve the unwavering loyalty they have gotten from so many for so long.

Can't blame you one bit. Good luck.

I had an opportunity to go to Gillette and watch the Raiders play The pats in person this sunday...after thinking about it i just couldnt get excited ...id almost be embarrassed to go there and represent such a losing franchise...and that sucks

 

[Raider Nation]

My buddy asked me to go and I declined. I'd rather watch every game at home. He knows we're gonna get killed, but he said "cold beer helps."

 

[Garrett]

I get the frustration, but my life didn't just radically change over the last two weeks. Damn.

Houston is 2-0, the Jets gave the Packers all they wanted at Lambeau...

Mack is getting better every play, not every game.

Carr is playing very well for a rookie in his first few games. This is the best QB prospect Oakland has had in a decade.

Jackson just stood up and handled JJ Watt in his 2nd NFL start.

I think the coaching staff and system are open for criticism, and I hope, no expect, that is occurring internally as we speak. There just isn't an uglier example of a horrible cap situation, maybe in NFL history, than what Oakland has had to fight through over the last 36 months. If you get some potential quality in the draft in the likes of Mack, Carr, Jackson; that is step one.

 

[RaiderBones]

Raiders "throwing a lot" at Vincent Brown trying to get him up to speed

By Levi Damien3 hours ago

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/raiders-throwing-lot-vincent-brown-232232261.html

 

[RaiderBones]

A conversation with Raiders owner Mark Davis, who had no comment about Dennis Allen but had a strong suggestion for the NFL’s domestic-violence crisis

Posted on September 17, 2014 by Tim Kawakami

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2014/09/17/conversation-raiders-owner-mark-davis-comment-dennis-allen-strong-suggestion-nfls-domestic-violence-crisis/

 

[Garrett]

I hate to just copy paste from another site, but if you haven't had a chance to see this guys work on Reddit, it's solid...

http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/2gl5g2/raiders_salary_charts_from_20112014_aka_how_to/

http://www.reddit.com/r/NFLRoundTable/comments/2d3bvq/a_look_at_derek_carrs_first_game_16_passing_plays/

 

[RaiderBones]

Oakland Raiders: Team Should Act Now And Replace Dennis Allen With Tony Sparano

POSTED 2 DAYS AGO IN BAY AREA SPORTS, OAKLAND RAIDERS
Written by: Gean May on September 16, 2014

http://network.yardbarker.com/all_sports/article_external/oakland_raiders_team_should_act_now_and_replace_dennis_allen_with_tony_sparano/17293325?linksrc=story_team_oakland_raiders_auto_module_head_17293325

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I'm convinced Dennis Allen is gone by the bye week. I'm convinced this will be a long season no matter who coaches the Raiders. I'm convinced that Reggie needs to go after the season (only because firing GM's mid-season is a practice that's just not done). For that matter I think Reggie is an idiot and DA is company man, loyal to a fault to the idiot that is going to fire him.

Now for the silver lining. I'm convinced we lucked into the best QB of this class. Carr's is the franchise QB that's going to be the carrot, along with a new stadium deal to draw in a recognized coaching name back to Oakland.

Better days ahead fellas...

 

[DocHolliday]

I'm convinced Dennis Allen is gone by the bye week. I'm convinced this will be a long season no matter who coaches the Raiders. I'm convinced that Reggie needs to go after the season (only because firing GM's mid-season is a practice that's just not done). For that matter I think Reggie is an idiot and DA is company man, loyal to a fault to the idiot that is going to fire him.

Now for the silver lining. I'm convinced we lucked into the best QB of this class. Carr's is the franchise QB that's going to be the carrot, along with a new stadium deal to draw in a recognized coaching name back to Oakland.

Better days ahead fellas...

I can agree with this or at least most of it. I am on the fence with Reggie. I think he made some very tough decisions and did pretty well except for a couple of questionable player choices.

 

[Chaka]

Not entirely sure that Reggie should go yet. I think he did a very good tearing down the roster and getting the team out of cap hell.

 

[Chaka]

I'm convinced Dennis Allen is gone by the bye week. I'm convinced this will be a long season no matter who coaches the Raiders. I'm convinced that Reggie needs to go after the season (only because firing GM's mid-season is a practice that's just not done). For that matter I think Reggie is an idiot and DA is company man, loyal to a fault to the idiot that is going to fire him.

Now for the silver lining. I'm convinced we lucked into the best QB of this class. Carr's is the franchise QB that's going to be the carrot, along with a new stadium deal to draw in a recognized coaching name back to Oakland.

Better days ahead fellas...

I can agree with this or at least most of it. I am on the fence with Reggie. I think he made some very tough decisions and did pretty well except for a couple of questionable player choices.

Veldheer and Houston still seem odd to me, and they are having to wait a long time to find out if Hayden is worth his draft status. Those are kind of big deals.

 

[JaxBill]

Any thoughts on a desperate Dennis Allen possbly giving Latavius Murray a chance? or doesn't it matter?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Any thoughts on a desperate Dennis Allen possbly giving Latavius Murray a chance? or doesn't it matter?

Can't get the running game going when you are in garbage time already in the second quarter. I think it's best to put all Raiders on ice or consider dropping if you need the roster space, untli HC Allen is fired.

 

[Chaka]

Any thoughts on a desperate Dennis Allen possbly giving Latavius Murray a chance? or doesn't it matter?

Can't get the running game going when you are in garbage time already in the second quarter. I think it's best to put all Raiders on ice or consider dropping if you need the roster space, untli HC Allen is fired.

2nd quarter? You're quite the optimist. Vegas has the Raiders down by 17 before "the rockets red glare".

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Yes, I am a die hard optimist. I think we can keep it close through the first 16 minutes.

 

[RaiderBones]

Any thoughts on a desperate Dennis Allen possbly giving Latavius Murray a chance? or doesn't it matter?

I think Dennis Allen is a idiot of he doesn't give Murray more carries this week. McFadden just doesn't have it any more. McFadden had just over 3 yards a carry last week and even after being that abysmal Murray saw 1 total carry? Just pathetic. Give the young RB a game to see what he can do. He can't do much worse then McFadden.

 

[ICON211]

Not entirely sure that Reggie should go yet. I think he did a very good tearing down the roster and getting the team out of cap hell.

I don't care what situation any GM walks into, if after two years the team is the worst in the NFL they have done a bad job. Things can turn around fast in the NFL and I am not going to be sold that turning around a team takes 3-5 years. The only reason Reggie is even the GM is because Mark Davis conducted an incompetent "search." That's if you want to call having John Madden tell him to hire Reggie then hiring Reggie after a five minute interview and giving him the keys to the organization a search.

 

[RaiderBones]

Derek Carr’s postgame speech impresses teammates

September, 18, 2014 By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

http://espn.go.com/blog/oakland-raiders/post/_/id/6371/derek-carrs-post-game-speech-impresses-teammates

 

[joey]

I can't forgive Reggie for using his first ever 1st round pick on a CB who almost DIED in practice.

 

[massraider]

What's the plan if everyone goes? Anyone have a thought?

 

[Chaka]

I can't forgive Reggie for using his first ever 1st round pick on a CB who almost DIED in practice.

And if he gets healthy and plays at a high level?

 

[32 Counter Pass]

As I mentioned previously, I like Pat Schumur. I is an offensive minded coach with previous coaching experience. He has also been has experience working in a high tempo spread offense. If the entire regime is sacked I could see Holgren coming in as the GM and making Schumur his pick, given that they are both from the WC offensive approach.

 

[ICON211]

What's the plan if everyone goes? Anyone have a thought?

I think this season is shot so I don't care if Allen is fired during or after the season. Same with Reggie, but I would not let him make any big moves in the meantime. I would like to see them bring in a well respected, accomplished guy (Holmgren was mentioned that type of guy) to run the show and either be president/GM or have him hire a GM.

 

[Chaka]

Oh good lord why would you want Holmgren?

He was a terrible GM.

 

[ICON211]

Oh good lord why would you want Holmgren?

He was a terrible GM.

I don't necessarily want him. I was more referring to a guy that had his type of credentials when he took the Browns job......well respected, prior success.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I would like an offensive minded head coach. This league is a put-points-on-the-board-fast league, and defensive head coaches you see for the most part are struggling just to make the playoffs. I think it would be nice to have an offense that dictated tempo, controlled time of possession, and kept the defenses off guard. I don't know why we continue with the stale version of the WCO. Maybe because of our talent deprived skill positions. We should put Carr in the shotgun more and spread them out. I like the kind of offense they run in Philadelphia, fast paced and up tempo. I think Carr's skill set could take advantage of mismatches and put the ball right on the money in traffic of a gassed secondary. Of course we need a whole new set of receivers for that and next year's draft I hope holds some of the answers. Get an established defensive coach, establish the defensive line with some better younger players. Stop with the one and two year past their prime vet rentals. This plan was doomed from the start. Above all, get a coach and GM that builds around Derek Carr. Get him what he needs and I promise you, he's going to be one of the handful of elite QB's in this league.

sorry for the incoherent ramble. just thinking out loud.

 

[massraider]

Oh good lord why would you want Holmgren?

He was a terrible GM.

I don't necessarily want him. I was more referring to a guy that had his type of credentials when he took the Browns job......well respected, prior success.

Why would a guy line that come here?

If we fire Allen before the end of the year, why would a respected coach come here?

 

[joey]

I can't forgive Reggie for using his first ever 1st round pick on a CB who almost DIED in practice.

And if he gets healthy and plays at a high level?

I'll stand by to eat crow if that does happen.

Still, many of us raider fans had a palm-to-head moment when that pick was announced. "Oh great. Of course the Raiders draft the dude who almost freakin died." Too much of the same ol same ol when it comes to odd raiders draft picks.

 

[ICON211]

Oh good lord why would you want Holmgren?

He was a terrible GM.

I don't necessarily want him. I was more referring to a guy that had his type of credentials when he took the Browns job......well respected, prior success.

Why would a guy line that come here?

If we fire Allen before the end of the year, why would a respected coach come here?

I think being given control and the challenge would appeal to some of those types of guys.

As far as the coach I was operating under the scenario that whoever finishes this season as coach will not be the coach next year. That's why I said I did not care if Allen is fired during the season or after.

 

[massraider]

I am probably totally alone on this one, but I hope Allen stays all year. I'll go further. I hope McKenzie and Allen stay through next year.

I don't know if these guys are the right men for the job, but I think, FOR SURE, if we fire them, we'll be right back where started, after Al died. Still a joke, no free agents want to come here, blah blah blah.

I don't believe McKenzie would fire Allen in-season, that would have to be move from Davis, which would just, I assume, be a precursor to McKenzie leaving.

Really, imagine perception if we fire the coach midseason, then try and imagine our offseason. Hooray ! 3rd tier coach, Carr gets two offenses in two seasons, and a front office and coach that didn't draft him.

Winning plan!!

 

[RaiderBones]

I am probably totally alone on this one, but I hope Allen stays all year. I'll go further. I hope McKenzie and Allen stay through next year.

I don't know if these guys are the right men for the job, but I think, FOR SURE, if we fire them, we'll be right back where started, after Al died. Still a joke, no free agents want to come here, blah blah blah.

I don't believe McKenzie would fire Allen in-season, that would have to be move from Davis, which would just, I assume, be a precursor to McKenzie leaving.

Really, imagine perception if we fire the coach midseason, then try and imagine our offseason. Hooray ! 3rd tier coach, Carr gets two offenses in two seasons, and a front office and coach that didn't draft him.

Winning plan!!

I don't agree with this at all. There are 0 benefits from keeping a head coach that isn't getting it done. Also, if Carr keeps on improving all season long then I would think having a young QB would be appealing and might help to land a better head coach next season. A offensive minded Head Coach would like to have a young up and coming QB to work with in my opinion.

 

[massraider]

Yes, I am sure there are offensive minded coaches that would like a young QB.

I also know that if we have an opening, it'll be considered the worst opening. Believing otherwise is simply ignoring history.

Job Gruden and Bill Cowher ain't walking through that door.

 

[ICON211]

I am probably totally alone on this one, but I hope Allen stays all year. I'll go further. I hope McKenzie and Allen stay through next year.

I don't know if these guys are the right men for the job, but I think, FOR SURE, if we fire them, we'll be right back where started, after Al died. Still a joke, no free agents want to come here, blah blah blah.

I don't believe McKenzie would fire Allen in-season, that would have to be move from Davis, which would just, I assume, be a precursor to McKenzie leaving.

Really, imagine perception if we fire the coach midseason, then try and imagine our offseason. Hooray ! 3rd tier coach, Carr gets two offenses in two seasons, and a front office and coach that didn't draft him.

Winning plan!!

Allen seems like a 4th or 5th tier coach to me so i don't think they could do much worse. Reggie's offseason plan was a complete joke that has resulted in the worst team in football. THIS is actually the lowpoint of the last decade or so, unbelievably. And I would rather try to give Carr a better OC and head coach combination than Allen and Olsen. I like what I have seen so far from him and I think it would benefit him to be out from under those two.