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2014 Suicide Pool Strategy Thread (1 Viewer)
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Yeah, not really buying that. A lot of ESPNI's stuff is good re: football betting and such, but NE is a clear play here.
When was the last time the Raiders won a 1:00pm road game in the Eastern time zone? Let's find out...
2014
WK 1 - NY Jets 19 / Oakland 14
2013
WK 14 - NY Jets 37 / Oakland 27
WK 10 - NY Giants 24 / Oakland 20
WK 1 - Indianapolis 21 / Oakland 17
2012
WK 16 - Carolina 17 / Oakland 6
WK 12 - Cincinnati 34 / Oakland 10
WK 10 - Baltimore 55 / Oakland 20
WK 6 - Atlanta 23 / Oakland 20
WK 2 - Miami 35 / Oakland 13
2011
WK 13 - Miami 34 / Oakland 14
WK 2 - Buffalo 38 / Oakland 35
2010
WK 14 - Jacksonville 38 / Oakland 31
WK 11 - Pittsburgh 35 / Oakland 3
2009
WK 16 - Cleveland 23 / Oakland 9
WK 13 - Oakland 27 / Pittsburgh 24 * WIN *
By my math, they've lost 14 consecutive 1:00pm games in the Eastern time zone.
2014
WK 1 - NY Jets 19 / Oakland 14
2013
WK 14 - NY Jets 37 / Oakland 27
WK 10 - NY Giants 24 / Oakland 20
WK 1 - Indianapolis 21 / Oakland 17
2012
WK 16 - Carolina 17 / Oakland 6
WK 12 - Cincinnati 34 / Oakland 10
WK 10 - Baltimore 55 / Oakland 20
WK 6 - Atlanta 23 / Oakland 20
WK 2 - Miami 35 / Oakland 13
2011
WK 13 - Miami 34 / Oakland 14
WK 2 - Buffalo 38 / Oakland 35
2010
WK 14 - Jacksonville 38 / Oakland 31
WK 11 - Pittsburgh 35 / Oakland 3
2009
WK 16 - Cleveland 23 / Oakland 9
WK 13 - Oakland 27 / Pittsburgh 24 * WIN *
By my math, they've lost 14 consecutive 1:00pm games in the Eastern time zone.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
These things are easy to kick yourself over when it's.... 35-0. But keep the bolded in mind.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Thursday games and line this year:
Week 1: THU, SEP 4 - Green Bay 16 @ Seattle 36 (-5)... 20 point win
Week 2: THU, SEP 11 - Pittsburgh 6 @ Baltimore 26 (-3)... 20 point win
Week 3: THU, SEP 18 - Tampa Bay 14 @ Atlanta 56 (-6.5)... 42 point win
Week 4: THU, SEP 25 - NY Giants at Washington (-3.5)
Week 5: THU, OCT 2 - Minnesota at Green Bay (-8.5)
Week 6: THU, OCT 9 - Indianapolis at Houston (+2.5)
Week 7: THU, OCT 16 - NY Jets at New England (-8.5)
Week 8: THU, OCT 23 - San Diego at Denver (+8.5)
Week 9: THU, OCT 30 - New Orleans at Carolina (-4)
Week 10: THU, NOV 6 - Cleveland at Cincinnati (-10)
Week 11: THU, NOV 13 - Buffalo at Miami (-0.5)
Week 12: THU, NOV 20 - Kansas City at Oakland (+3.5)
Week 13: THU, NOV 27 -
Philadelphia at Dallas (+1.5)
Chicago at Detroit (-1.5)
Seattle at San Francisco (0.5)
Week 14: THU, DEC 4 - Dallas at Chicago (-5.5)
Week 15: THU, DEC 11 - Arizona at St. Louis (+3)
Week 16: THU, DEC 18 - Tennessee at Jacksonville (+2.5)
Week 1: THU, SEP 4 - Green Bay 16 @ Seattle 36 (-5)... 20 point win
Week 2: THU, SEP 11 - Pittsburgh 6 @ Baltimore 26 (-3)... 20 point win
Week 3: THU, SEP 18 - Tampa Bay 14 @ Atlanta 56 (-6.5)... 42 point win
Week 4: THU, SEP 25 - NY Giants at Washington (-3.5)
Week 5: THU, OCT 2 - Minnesota at Green Bay (-8.5)
Week 6: THU, OCT 9 - Indianapolis at Houston (+2.5)
Week 7: THU, OCT 16 - NY Jets at New England (-8.5)
Week 8: THU, OCT 23 - San Diego at Denver (+8.5)
Week 9: THU, OCT 30 - New Orleans at Carolina (-4)
Week 10: THU, NOV 6 - Cleveland at Cincinnati (-10)
Week 11: THU, NOV 13 - Buffalo at Miami (-0.5)
Week 12: THU, NOV 20 - Kansas City at Oakland (+3.5)
Week 13: THU, NOV 27 -
Philadelphia at Dallas (+1.5)
Chicago at Detroit (-1.5)
Seattle at San Francisco (0.5)
Week 14: THU, DEC 4 - Dallas at Chicago (-5.5)
Week 15: THU, DEC 11 - Arizona at St. Louis (+3)
Week 16: THU, DEC 18 - Tennessee at Jacksonville (+2.5)
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Lehigh98
Footballguy
They're due, putting a nickle on the Raiders... OUTRIGHT!Good work here.
Any early thoughts on Suicide Pool picks for Week 4? 21 of us are still alive in the ESPN Eliminator Challenge group.
The obvious tempting choice is the Chargers at home vs. the Jags... currently favored to win by 13.5 points.
My trepidation about that game is the unknown of how efficient the Jags offense can be with Bortles owning the #1 QB job for a solid week of prep.
Then again, Bortles alone can't resolve the prolific issues with the run game and the defense.
The Steelers draw the Bucs (who will have had 10 days to ruminate over their drubbing by the Falcons).
I used Pittsburgh back in Week 1 but I'd be a little leery of using them here even if I hadn't.
Steelers have a deceptively easy early sched (@ JAX, @ CLE, vs. HOU the next 3 weeks) and you know they're going to cough up one of these games when they're favored big.
Then again, if the Bucs have truly given up on Lovie Smith it may just behoove people to pick against them every week.
The Colts host the Titans... and as terrible as Jake Locker has been, I fear Charlie Whitehurst even less. Kind of leaning towards taking Indy this week despite the division game.
Indy has won 5 straight vs. Tennessee and the last time they lost they were "sucking for Luck" with Curtis Painter.
The obvious tempting choice is the Chargers at home vs. the Jags... currently favored to win by 13.5 points.
My trepidation about that game is the unknown of how efficient the Jags offense can be with Bortles owning the #1 QB job for a solid week of prep.
Then again, Bortles alone can't resolve the prolific issues with the run game and the defense.
The Steelers draw the Bucs (who will have had 10 days to ruminate over their drubbing by the Falcons).
I used Pittsburgh back in Week 1 but I'd be a little leery of using them here even if I hadn't.
Steelers have a deceptively easy early sched (@ JAX, @ CLE, vs. HOU the next 3 weeks) and you know they're going to cough up one of these games when they're favored big.
Then again, if the Bucs have truly given up on Lovie Smith it may just behoove people to pick against them every week.
The Colts host the Titans... and as terrible as Jake Locker has been, I fear Charlie Whitehurst even less. Kind of leaning towards taking Indy this week despite the division game.
Indy has won 5 straight vs. Tennessee and the last time they lost they were "sucking for Luck" with Curtis Painter.
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Futz
Footballguy
San Diego looks like the obvious choice and I agree with your sentiments but I feel the need to zig when everyone is going to zag this week. TB will muster up some pride and give Pitt a much better game I'm sure but I just don't see them having enough talent to pull it out in Pittsburgh. Rolling with the Steelers. SD has some nice matchups down the road too. I see what you mean with Indy but I just don't touch divisionals unless I have no choice.
Just to chime in with more Indy flavor, the Colts haven't lost at home to the Titans since 2007 - which I'm not sure even counts as it was Week 17 and playoff-bound Indy benched all of their starters in the 2nd quarter. The last time the Colts lost a game that mattered to the Titans in Indianapolis was in 2002.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I think I am going with the Steelers. SD and Indy are both great choices but PIT should roll right over TB. TB looks like the bottom of the barrell right now.
bigbrownbag
Footballguy
Thoughts on atlanta? That's who I'm leaning on. Pitt and SD both have future home games that are useable. My pool is quite large so really looking to go off the beaten path.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
I am not liking the Steelers this week with the injuries to Shazier, Jones and Taylor on D. Especially with quality choices like Indy and SD on the board for me.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Different take on the biggest favorite this week...
http://www.sportsgrid.com/football/survivor-pool-picks-for-week-4-three-locks-two-value-plays-and-one-shocker/
http://www.sportsgrid.com/football/survivor-pool-picks-for-week-4-three-locks-two-value-plays-and-one-shocker/
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I doubt I'll ever take the Falcons in an Eliminator to win a road game. I don't care who the opponent is.
Matty Ice is one of the most Jekyll & Hyde QBs out there when it comes to playing away from the Georgia Dome.
I certainly wouldn't take them seeing how they got spanked by the Bengals in Week 2 (putting up 10 total points).
They also lost every single road game except one last season... and they needed OT in that game to beat Buffalo at a neutral site game in Toronto.
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
I am going SD in mine too. Jax will pull a shocker eventually, but not cross county this week.
SD here too. However, I'm curious about how rookie QBs have done historically in their first start, especially on the road. I know this history has no bearing on this year's class but I'd feel better playing SD if I knew that rook QBs historically win ~1 out of every 10 first starts in the NFL.Winning IS Everything said:
DocHolliday
Footballguy
You guys are making me rethink taking PIT instead of SD. I still think either will work out fine.
GreenBaySnackers
Footballguy
I can't take Steelers because I used them week 1 but I wouldn't anyway. Long week of rest and I thought Glennon was actually pretty good at times last year.
The Jags were up 17-0 week 1 against the Eagles and probably would have won had Chad Henne not been their quarterback. They won't have that problem this week. SD has been playing better than they actually are and just lost both of their running backs. I don't think Jax wins, but if they do, it will knock out 90% of the remaining people.
I'm gonna pick the Colts and hope Jax and TB pull upsets.
The Jags were up 17-0 week 1 against the Eagles and probably would have won had Chad Henne not been their quarterback. They won't have that problem this week. SD has been playing better than they actually are and just lost both of their running backs. I don't think Jax wins, but if they do, it will knock out 90% of the remaining people.
I'm gonna pick the Colts and hope Jax and TB pull upsets.
Bucking the SD trend here. Don't like a team with a defense I was iffy on heading into the season facing a QB they have no book on, and don't like the feel of facing ANY NFL team with a heavily depleted backfield. I like SD, but I do think they're playing a bit over their heads. It would take a perfect storm of circumstance for JAX to win in SD, but I can see stormclouds a-forming. 
I like INDY a little more this week. TEN never wins there, and INDY is still playing right-the-ship after the tough start. I think that team is starting to find an identity, and I'm not sure TEN has any answers. They seem to be in complete meltdown mode, while INDY needs to get back to 2-2 before heading into this BAL-HOU-CIN stretch. I think they get there this week in very comfortable style.
So...
WK 1: PIT
WK 2: DEN
WK 3: NE
WK 4: IND
I like INDY a little more this week. TEN never wins there, and INDY is still playing right-the-ship after the tough start. I think that team is starting to find an identity, and I'm not sure TEN has any answers. They seem to be in complete meltdown mode, while INDY needs to get back to 2-2 before heading into this BAL-HOU-CIN stretch. I think they get there this week in very comfortable style.
So...
WK 1: PIT
WK 2: DEN
WK 3: NE
WK 4: IND
shader
Footballguy
Indy is the shark play. I like to look at the biggest qb differentials in games. Luck vs possibly Charlie Whitehurst....in Indy...cmon.
The only hope the Titans have is that the Colts go super conservative, have a slim lead heading into the 4th, and then the Titans somehow pull off the upset.
The only thing that scares me about this game is that I think I've lost in survivor every time I've picked the Titans. They are a hard read for me, as a fan. I typically give up on them far quicker than I should.
But still, Luck vs Clipboard....
The only hope the Titans have is that the Colts go super conservative, have a slim lead heading into the 4th, and then the Titans somehow pull off the upset.
The only thing that scares me about this game is that I think I've lost in survivor every time I've picked the Titans. They are a hard read for me, as a fan. I typically give up on them far quicker than I should.
But still, Luck vs Clipboard....
Futz
Footballguy
I gotta thank the FBG for the chatter here. I had the Steelers as a lock but guys here talked me into Indy this week.
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Don't be the ####### that takes the Seahawks or the Steelers on the road next week.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
bigbrownbag
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Keeping it simple and going with the Saints this week.
Looks like I helped save some survival pool defeats this week. Happy to oblige on that front.
Moving on to Week 5... here are the early favorites out of Vegas:
- New Orleans -11 vs. Tampa Bay (Given the way these division rivals played in Week 4, you wouldn't expect a spread this large. That being said, this is the best home matchup the Saints are going to have all year... if you're willing to bite the bullet and put your suicide pool life in the hands of a Rob Ryan defense. <shudder>
- Green Bay -9.5 vs. Minnesota (I already used up the Pack back in Week 2 vs. the Jets; divisional game in our weekly Thursday circus act that pretends to be a football game; it's not like their home matchups are getting any better going forward - of course, that's why I used them early; that being said I would recommend staying away - the Vikes won this week by running the ball down the Falcons' throats and if there's one team that's even worse at defending against the run than Atlanta, it's Green Bay.)
- Denver -7.5 vs. Arizona (I know it's Peyton Manning and the Broncos... and Drew Stanton may well start again for the Cards this week. But this Arizona team has been WINNING with Drew Stanton as their quarterback. You want to be the crazy fool to put your Eliminator life on the line against an unbeaten 3-0 team? Be my guest.)
- San Francisco -7.5 vs. Kansas City (Gee, I wonder if Alex Smith will be motivated for this game against his former team. The Chiefs 2-game win streak may have come against the AFC Least... and the Chiefs may have a short week thanks to the Monday nighter. But I'm not exactly feeling confident in the 49ers just because they figured out how to shut down the Eagles offense. You know Andy Reid will also be motivated to show that he can do what his former team failed to do - win in San Fran.)
- Seattle -7.5 at Washington (The Redskins were humiliated at home last week and Seattle didn't exactly look like the defending Superbowl champs the last time they ventured away from noisy CenturyLink Field. I mean, I fully expect them to humble Kirk Cousins after their bye week but it would just be a shame to waste the most dominant home team in the league in a road matchup with so many other options this week, wouldn't it?)
- Detroit -7 vs. Buffalo (This was my slam dunk choice for this week prior to Manuel getting benched. Still probably going to ride it despite the switch to Orton unless Megatron's on decoy duty again.)
- Philadelphia -7 vs. St. Louis (I'm not sure I've got the stones to ride Philly in Eliminator at all this year. 3-1 record or not, this is a team that only manages to win games after they've spotted their opponent a 10-point lead. Hindsight being 20:20, we now know that Washington, Jacksonville and Indy are all pretty terrible defensively. The Rams are great against the pass and Philly can't seem to run the ball at all right now. The Rams are also coming off their bye week. I don't like picking Survival victors against well-rested opponents - even ones with Austin Davis as their quarterback.)
- Pittsburgh -7 at Jacksonville (As noted earlier, I used the Steelers back in Week 1 - and talked some of you guys out of using them last week. This team is only 2-2 by virtue of a last minute field goal to beat those scary Cleveland Browns at home - something which has come a lot easier for them in years past. The Panthers defense was exposed when Pittsburgh traveled to Carolina and the Jags have no defense... but still. The Steelers have only won 3 road games each of the past two seasons. They lost to terrible Oakland teams on the road each of the past two years. And they've already used up one of their wins against the Panthers. I would stay away.)
- San Diego -7 vs. NY Jets (This is about as safe as Survival pool picks get this week. If you didn't use the Chargers last week, you can certainly use them here. Of course, they'll be a safe choice to win plenty of times this year. They haven't played the Raiders yet.)
So yeah, I'm still leaning DETROIT. Feel free to talk me out of it. I'm a Bills fan so it's not like I want my team to lose.
Moving on to Week 5... here are the early favorites out of Vegas:
- New Orleans -11 vs. Tampa Bay (Given the way these division rivals played in Week 4, you wouldn't expect a spread this large. That being said, this is the best home matchup the Saints are going to have all year... if you're willing to bite the bullet and put your suicide pool life in the hands of a Rob Ryan defense. <shudder>
- Green Bay -9.5 vs. Minnesota (I already used up the Pack back in Week 2 vs. the Jets; divisional game in our weekly Thursday circus act that pretends to be a football game; it's not like their home matchups are getting any better going forward - of course, that's why I used them early; that being said I would recommend staying away - the Vikes won this week by running the ball down the Falcons' throats and if there's one team that's even worse at defending against the run than Atlanta, it's Green Bay.)
- Denver -7.5 vs. Arizona (I know it's Peyton Manning and the Broncos... and Drew Stanton may well start again for the Cards this week. But this Arizona team has been WINNING with Drew Stanton as their quarterback. You want to be the crazy fool to put your Eliminator life on the line against an unbeaten 3-0 team? Be my guest.)
- San Francisco -7.5 vs. Kansas City (Gee, I wonder if Alex Smith will be motivated for this game against his former team. The Chiefs 2-game win streak may have come against the AFC Least... and the Chiefs may have a short week thanks to the Monday nighter. But I'm not exactly feeling confident in the 49ers just because they figured out how to shut down the Eagles offense. You know Andy Reid will also be motivated to show that he can do what his former team failed to do - win in San Fran.)
- Seattle -7.5 at Washington (The Redskins were humiliated at home last week and Seattle didn't exactly look like the defending Superbowl champs the last time they ventured away from noisy CenturyLink Field. I mean, I fully expect them to humble Kirk Cousins after their bye week but it would just be a shame to waste the most dominant home team in the league in a road matchup with so many other options this week, wouldn't it?)
- Detroit -7 vs. Buffalo (This was my slam dunk choice for this week prior to Manuel getting benched. Still probably going to ride it despite the switch to Orton unless Megatron's on decoy duty again.)
- Philadelphia -7 vs. St. Louis (I'm not sure I've got the stones to ride Philly in Eliminator at all this year. 3-1 record or not, this is a team that only manages to win games after they've spotted their opponent a 10-point lead. Hindsight being 20:20, we now know that Washington, Jacksonville and Indy are all pretty terrible defensively. The Rams are great against the pass and Philly can't seem to run the ball at all right now. The Rams are also coming off their bye week. I don't like picking Survival victors against well-rested opponents - even ones with Austin Davis as their quarterback.)
- Pittsburgh -7 at Jacksonville (As noted earlier, I used the Steelers back in Week 1 - and talked some of you guys out of using them last week. This team is only 2-2 by virtue of a last minute field goal to beat those scary Cleveland Browns at home - something which has come a lot easier for them in years past. The Panthers defense was exposed when Pittsburgh traveled to Carolina and the Jags have no defense... but still. The Steelers have only won 3 road games each of the past two seasons. They lost to terrible Oakland teams on the road each of the past two years. And they've already used up one of their wins against the Panthers. I would stay away.)
- San Diego -7 vs. NY Jets (This is about as safe as Survival pool picks get this week. If you didn't use the Chargers last week, you can certainly use them here. Of course, they'll be a safe choice to win plenty of times this year. They haven't played the Raiders yet.)
So yeah, I'm still leaning DETROIT. Feel free to talk me out of it. I'm a Bills fan so it's not like I want my team to lose.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Saints because if they somehow lose this home game you won't want to use them the rest of the year anyways.
bigbrownbag
Footballguy
Who says you have to use the saints at all? 17 weeks 32 teams. A lot of teams don't have to be used. No?And, if they somehow lose this game. Most people are out of their pool. Not sure I get the rational here.
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bigbrownbag
Footballguy
Great write up. Feel free to do this every week . I'm leaning DET as well. I'm in the same boat. Preferred Manuel at QB. But still can't see them losing.Lascelle said:Looks like I helped save some survival pool defeats this week. Happy to oblige on that front.
Moving on to Week 5... here are the early favorites out of Vegas:
- New Orleans -11 vs. Tampa Bay (Given the way these division rivals played in Week 4, you wouldn't expect a spread this large. That being said, this is the best home matchup the Saints are going to have all year... if you're willing to bite the bullet and put your suicide pool life in the hands of a Rob Ryan defense. <shudder>
- Green Bay -9.5 vs. Minnesota (I already used up the Pack back in Week 2 vs. the Jets; divisional game in our weekly Thursday circus act that pretends to be a football game; it's not like their home matchups are getting any better going forward - of course, that's why I used them early; that being said I would recommend staying away - the Vikes won this week by running the ball down the Falcons' throats and if there's one team that's even worse at defending against the run than Atlanta, it's Green Bay.)
- Denver -7.5 vs. Arizona (I know it's Peyton Manning and the Broncos... and Drew Stanton may well start again for the Cards this week. But this Arizona team has been WINNING with Drew Stanton as their quarterback. You want to be the crazy fool to put your Eliminator life on the line against an unbeaten 3-0 team? Be my guest.)
- San Francisco -7.5 vs. Kansas City (Gee, I wonder if Alex Smith will be motivated for this game against his former team. The Chiefs 2-game win streak may have come against the AFC Least... and the Chiefs may have a short week thanks to the Monday nighter. But I'm not exactly feeling confident in the 49ers just because they figured out how to shut down the Eagles offense. You know Andy Reid will also be motivated to show that he can do what his former team failed to do - win in San Fran.)
- Seattle -7.5 at Washington (The Redskins were humiliated at home last week and Seattle didn't exactly look like the defending Superbowl champs the last time they ventured away from noisy CenturyLink Field. I mean, I fully expect them to humble Kirk Cousins after their bye week but it would just be a shame to waste the most dominant home team in the league in a road matchup with so many other options this week, wouldn't it?)
- Detroit -7 vs. Buffalo (This was my slam dunk choice for this week prior to Manuel getting benched. Still probably going to ride it despite the switch to Orton unless Megatron's on decoy duty again.)
- Philadelphia -7 vs. St. Louis (I'm not sure I've got the stones to ride Philly in Eliminator at all this year. 3-1 record or not, this is a team that only manages to win games after they've spotted their opponent a 10-point lead. Hindsight being 20:20, we now know that Washington, Jacksonville and Indy are all pretty terrible defensively. The Rams are great against the pass and Philly can't seem to run the ball at all right now. The Rams are also coming off their bye week. I don't like picking Survival victors against well-rested opponents - even ones with Austin Davis as their quarterback.)
- Pittsburgh -7 at Jacksonville (As noted earlier, I used the Steelers back in Week 1 - and talked some of you guys out of using them last week. This team is only 2-2 by virtue of a last minute field goal to beat those scary Cleveland Browns at home - something which has come a lot easier for them in years past. The Panthers defense was exposed when Pittsburgh traveled to Carolina and the Jags have no defense... but still. The Steelers have only won 3 road games each of the past two seasons. They lost to terrible Oakland teams on the road each of the past two years. And they've already used up one of their wins against the Panthers. I would stay away.)
- San Diego -7 vs. NY Jets (This is about as safe as Survival pool picks get this week. If you didn't use the Chargers last week, you can certainly use them here. Of course, they'll be a safe choice to win plenty of times this year. They haven't played the Raiders yet.)
So yeah, I'm still leaning DETROIT. Feel free to talk me out of it. I'm a Bills fan so it's not like I want my team to lose.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
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bigbrownbag
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
OK, forget the rest...going back to 2011 the Saints have beaten the Bucs 5 straight.
There's a lot to like about picking New Orleans.
- 5 straight wins against Tampa Bay
- 9 straight wins at home
- Haven't lost a game that had meaning to the Bucs at home since 2007
- Biggest favorite of the week
- Less attractive home matchups the rest of the way (Week 8 - Packers, Week 10 - 49ers, Week 11 - Bengals, Week 12 - Ravens, Week 14 - Panthers, Week 16 - Falcons)
Lots of reasons. (I'm still taking Detroit.)
- 5 straight wins against Tampa Bay
- 9 straight wins at home
- Haven't lost a game that had meaning to the Bucs at home since 2007
- Biggest favorite of the week
- Less attractive home matchups the rest of the way (Week 8 - Packers, Week 10 - 49ers, Week 11 - Bengals, Week 12 - Ravens, Week 14 - Panthers, Week 16 - Falcons)
Lots of reasons. (I'm still taking Detroit.)
bigbrownbag
Footballguy
It's funny. Those first four reasons make me want to steer clear of this one. Not to mention its a very popular pick, so I would rather look another way and hope for the bucs upset.
I kind of like the Giants at home against the Falcons for a lot of the reasons lascelle previously mentioned in talking me out of Atlanta over Vikes last week. Giants also seem to be clicking and had some extra time to prep/rest.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
I'm not sure the Lions aren't the same old Lions. I think a big let-down is very possible. Plus, the Bills are a pretty good team. If Orton can manage the game, and hit open WRs, even if it's only the first read, they should be able to move the ball. Sammy and Woods can get open quick, so if Orton has any sort of chemistry out of the gate I'd expect a good showing. There's no way I'd touch the Lions, knowing both teams fairly well. It looks like maybe things are starting to click for the Lions, but that's happened once or twice per year for the past 5 years.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I love this thread.
The teams that I prefer in order:
Seattle
Denver
Detroit
NO
I want to save Seattle and Denver so Detroit or NO are my choices. I already used Philly but Philly belongs in the talk for others.
The teams that I prefer in order:
Seattle
Denver
Detroit
NO
I want to save Seattle and Denver so Detroit or NO are my choices. I already used Philly but Philly belongs in the talk for others.
I rather like the Giants this week as well.
The Falcons have lost 9 consecutive games playing against a team in their home arena.
And their offensive line has been shredded with injuries.
GreenBaySnackers
Footballguy
No way am I taking the Lions. Packers, Saints or Seahawks for me. I'm leaning Packers so I don't have to spend the rest of the week wondering. I like the Saints matchup but they've already been upset once, the Bucks have upset a team, and It will be the highest picked game, so I'd rather root for this to be the big upset of the week. Seahawks will probably not be picked by a lot of people which makes them a really attractive choice for me. I don't see how Washington can beat them, even on the road.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
This is definitely a Saints week. There are a few spots going forward where I'd like to use DET. Not so much with New Orleans.
Love to hear others thoughts. My risky picks this week r Pitt and Philly. May just go gb to play it safe.
Not sure if its been mentioned in this thread but www.survivorgrid.com is kind of a cool/helpful site in that has a nice visual layout of future games, spreads, values, free, no registering. Just something I stumbled upon no affiliation or anything
Not sure if its been mentioned in this thread but www.survivorgrid.com is kind of a cool/helpful site in that has a nice visual layout of future games, spreads, values, free, no registering. Just something I stumbled upon no affiliation or anything
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