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2015 NBA Thread: I felt a great disturbance in the trolls, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. (1 Viewer)

mr. furley said:
last night was magical
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Eh, Tim wasn't playing any defense. It was pretty pathetic the way he let Cappy score on him without much resistance at the end of the half. I guess he thought TGunz would pick him up, but we all know you can't rely on that guy to be consistent.

 
Gr00vus said:
Eh, Tim wasn't playing any defense. It was pretty pathetic the way he let Cappy score on him without much resistance at the end of the half. I guess he thought TGunz would pick him up, but we all know you can't rely on that guy to be consistent.
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After a while it was more like Tim started shooting at my own hoop for me. 

 
Capella said:
After a while it was more like Tim started shooting at my own hoop for me. 
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Not surprising. His comment posting efficiency is so bad, he has to shoot at both hoops just to generate enough volume to keep himself in the game. I think he's pretty close to having the worst true posting percentage of any FBG ever.

 
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Poke_4_Life said:
Harden was offered 14mil/year.  Left to Houston for 17+.  OKC tried to keep him and then got what they could (Adams being part of the deal).  

When I watch Harden play about 1/3 of the game in Houston (never on D and not always engaged on O), I'm really happy he was the one traded.  The only other option at the time was to trade Ibaka, as Perkin's salary was way too high for his value.  
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Lol. He was the second best player in the league last year. 

 
Abraham said:
This one.
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I don't think MVP voting is usually a good barometer of who the best players are in order.  I doubt more than a few people really thought Harden was a better player last year than LeBron James, for example, but he got higher MVP votes because it gets boring voting for the best player every year, like when guys like Malone and Barkley won the MVP in the 90s even thought Jordan was far and away the best player those years.  Not saying Harden wasn't a top player last year - he was - but top 2? Nah. 

 
Abraham said:
Poke_4_Life said:
Harden was offered 14mil/year.  Left to Houston for 17+.  OKC tried to keep him and then got what they could (Adams being part of the deal).  

When I watch Harden play about 1/3 of the game in Houston (never on D and not always engaged on O), I'm really happy he was the one traded.  The only other option at the time was to trade Ibaka, as Perkin's salary was way too high for his value.  
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Lol. He was the second best player in the league last year. 
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Certainly better than Serge ####### Ibaka

 
Now they just need to resign Derozan and Mutomb :o  to max contracts

The Raptors are nearing an agreement to extend coach Dwane Casey's contract.
It's the right move after the Raptors finished with a 56-26 record in the East. The Raptors do hold a team option on Casey for next season, but it appears that they're committed to giving him a long-term extension instead. According to Marc Stein of ESPN, a deal could be reached by the end of the week.

 
 
Source: Marc Stein on Twitter
May 31 - 10:18 PM

 
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bananafish said:
Have you ever been hiking at 10,000 feet and come back down to sea level and it feels like the air is thick and rich and you can run for miles without really trying? Or spend all day bucking an 80 pound pack, take it off after 10 miles and it feels like you're almost weightless and could jump over them there hills in a single bound? That's what the Cavs are going to present to Golden State after dealing with OKC's superarmed defense and their brush with elimination. Like taking off that lead vest after getting x-rays at the dentist. Simply going to the basket will be a breath of fresh air after constantly looking over their shoulder for ghost blocks. I'm convinced the Warriors missed all those layups because they were spooked and that ain't happening this go-round. Remember when Durant blocked one of Curry's threes? There's nobody on Cleveland that can even come close to that kind of effort.

No way they don't approach this first game with deadly seriousness after losing the first one last round and LeBron talking #### about Curry's MVP. I wonder if Westbrook is still chuckling and chirping about Curry's defense?

I think they inhale gallons of sweet, Cavilicious oxygen, win game one going away and never look back. Unless Lue has something in his bag of tricks that the world has never seen, and he doesn't.
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So, you're predicting a Warriors sweep?

 
Would MIN have taken Irving and Bennett for Love?

(I know there was a third team in the deal, so Irving salary vs Wiggins would have made the other piece fit together differently.)

I guess my my main question is, would Kyrie Irving had been a big enough centerpiece in the Love trade?  Or did it have to be Wiggins?

 
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Bruce Dickinson said:
Would MIN have taken Irving and Bennett for Love?

(I know there was a third team in the deal, so Irving salary vs Wiggins would have made the other piece fot together differently.)

i guess my my main question is, would Kyrie Irving had been a big enough centerpiece in the Love trade?  Or did it have to be Wiggins?
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Is this assuming that Cleveland would rather have Wiggins right now than Irving?

Retrospectively, I still think that the Wolves would rather have Wiggins and the Cavs would rather have Irving.

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
Would MIN have taken Irving and Bennett for Love?

(I know there was a third team in the deal, so Irving salary vs Wiggins would have made the other piece fit together differently.)

I guess my my main question is, would Kyrie Irving had been a big enough centerpiece in the Love trade?  Or did it have to be Wiggins?
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If memory serves (badly), the Griz didn't want Irving since he was eligible for the 2nd contract (which he signed in July '14 for this year).  This would be the "they didn't think he was a max player" corollary. 

 
Kyrie is going to get shredded against Klay or Steph. Can you put him on Barnes? I don't think GS runs much PnR action for Barnes.

GS in 3, still.

 
bananafish said:
I'm now wearing my broom jersey. With the dustpan shorts to accentuate my balls.
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I want to see a Warriors championship.  That said, the Warriors strike me as more or less the squad they sent last year while Cleveland has two significant options available they did not have available last year.  Last year not being a sweep, and Cleveland potentially significantly stronger, I think any ultimate victory here, even one in a seven game series, would be a satisfying victory.

I am a fan of neither team, but am a bit of a Lebron detractor due to the calls he gets.

 
Bobcat10 said:
What do you do when he gets hacked going to the hoop but the whistle doesn't blow because he's a supersonic chiseled freight train that cannot be stopped?
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As near as I can tell he gets a call every time, even when he initiates contact with a stationary defender by ramming his, Lebron's, forearm and elbow, into the throat of the defender.  Presuming though, like you do, that the whistle didn't blow for this chiseled, supersonic Cavalier freight train I would presume the whistle was clogged from the hair unable to remain on his head due to the airspeed friction of this charging locomotive.  I would, therefor, clean out the clog or go to my standby whistle.  

 
bananafish said:
The Warriors have a significantly better team than they had last year, most notably the improvement of Klay, Steph and Green (and let's not forget the addition of Varejao!). Heck, Steph was a candidate for Most Improved Player after winning the MVP last year. Will the contributions of Kylie and Love on offense be enough to overcome their glaring deficiencies on defense? Obviously I'm in the "no" camp but it's hardly any open-and-shut case and is one of the more fascinating storylines of this series along with the Cavs' sudden discovery of the 3 pointer.

Golden State in 4. It shall be done.
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Since you made a good Varejao joke I am going to be pulling for your guys.  I am fond of watching the threes come raining down.  I just wish that once Bogut could catch a pass inside and slam it with authoritay instead of fumbling the ball off of his feet, out of bounds, for yet another lost opportunity and a turnover.  My God, he sucked in Milwaukee and has gotten worse since.

 
Serious question: Do we know if Tyronn Lue is an elite coach yet?  He didn't have to make any strategic moves through the Eastern conference playoffs.  Warriors are a billion times better than anyone Lue has coached against so far in a playoff series.  Kerr has a lot more pieces at his disposable and has already been forced to make key adjustments (down 2-1 to Cleveland last year and down 3-1 to Oklahoma City this year).  LeBron is a monster and they are healthier this year, but in a seven game series against a deeper team and proven coach, I don't know if they can overcome depth/adjustments GS will be to make.

 
How are the Warriors that much deeper, if at all imo, than the Cavs to the point where it's been a main focal point of the Finals discussion in here along with Kyrie's defense (and Kerr's brain or Lue's lack-thereof)?  I just don't see that argument at all.  Not this year.

 
tjnc09 said:
Serious question: Do we know if Tyronn Lue is an elite coach yet?  He didn't have to make any strategic moves through the Eastern conference playoffs.  Warriors are a billion times better than anyone Lue has coached against so far in a playoff series.  Kerr has a lot more pieces at his disposable and has already been forced to make key adjustments (down 2-1 to Cleveland last year and down 3-1 to Oklahoma City this year).  LeBron is a monster and they are healthier this year, but in a seven game series against a deeper team and proven coach, I don't know if they can overcome depth/adjustments GS will be to make.
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I think statistically they were about the same in the regular season. A little faster, with more touches for Love, but otherwise about the same. 

But, there is no danger of an outright mutiny under Lue. So there's that.

 
Bobcat10 said:
How are the Warriors that much deeper, if at all imo, than the Cavs to the point where it's been a main focal point of the Finals discussion in here along with Kyrie's defense (and Kerr's brain or Lue's lack-thereof)?  I just don't see that argument at all.  Not this year.
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Cliff Clavin said:
Not flail around when your team-mate's elbow brushes your face?

Don't jump into the crowd when barely being touched?
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Pretty much every player in the league makes a fool of themselves trying to get calls; its just part of the game now. I can't stand watching Lowry/Derozan do it possession after possession. Its when guys take it to the next level by throwing themselves around the court or kicking d!cks that makes me dislike them. 

 
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GOB said:
Kyrie is going to get shredded against Klay or Steph. Can you put him on Barnes? I don't think GS runs much PnR action for Barnes.

GS in 3, still.
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Kerr is smart. He'll just have whoever Kyrie is hiding on set the screen for Curry. They do it all the time.

 
Bobcat10 said:
How are the Warriors that much deeper, if at all imo, than the Cavs to the point where it's been a main focal point of the Finals discussion in here along with Kyrie's defense (and Kerr's brain or Lue's lack-thereof)?  I just don't see that argument at all.  Not this year.
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Yeah I don't get this either.  They looked deep earlier in the season but Livingston seems to have fallen off a cliff, which leaves them without any real depth in the backcourt. And Bogut's not gonna give them much against the Cavs either IMO.  He's a good post defender but the Cavs don't really go to the block except to LeBron, who I assume will not be manned by Bogut.

Kyrie's defense, on the other hand ... that's a real problem. Maybe he suddenly pulls it together, IIRC there was talk that he was defending much better last year in the playoffs before his injury.  But I'll believe it when I see it.

Warriors in 5 for me. Cavs could spring the upset, but I think the Cleve lost its best shot at a title when OKC went out. I loved that matchup for them.

 
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