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flapgreen
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Hawkeye21
Footballguy
The team actually looked better than I expected. If they actually had some starter caliber WRs playing they could have won.
When a team is having this bad of a season I can still get some enjoyment out of it. There are things to watch for and yesterday's game showed it was worth paying attention. Seeing a team that is so decimated by injuries find a way to come back and have a chance to win is a good thing. It shows that players want to win and be a part of the team, or at least play on another team. It also showed which players just can't hack it as NFL starters. If anything it's really good experience for the back up players.
When a team is having this bad of a season I can still get some enjoyment out of it. There are things to watch for and yesterday's game showed it was worth paying attention. Seeing a team that is so decimated by injuries find a way to come back and have a chance to win is a good thing. It shows that players want to win and be a part of the team, or at least play on another team. It also showed which players just can't hack it as NFL starters. If anything it's really good experience for the back up players.
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
Don't know if this has been reported but -
Bears ILB Danny Trevathan has been diagnosed with a ruptured right patellar tendon, and is done for the season.
It's the worst possible news for the 26 year old. As Victor Cruz can attest, a torn patellar tendon is arguably the toughest injury to come back from, though Jimmy Graham provides a hopeful example. The injury at least comes at the right financial time, as Trevathan inked a four-year, $24.5 million contract last March. He's unlikely to be ready for the start of training camp, and is legitimately questionable for Week 1 2017. Trevathan was having a strong season playing all three downs. The Bears are going to be ludicrously thin for the final five weeks.
Source: Dan Wiederer on Twitter
Nov 28 - 2:30 PM
Bears ILB Danny Trevathan has been diagnosed with a ruptured right patellar tendon, and is done for the season.
It's the worst possible news for the 26 year old. As Victor Cruz can attest, a torn patellar tendon is arguably the toughest injury to come back from, though Jimmy Graham provides a hopeful example. The injury at least comes at the right financial time, as Trevathan inked a four-year, $24.5 million contract last March. He's unlikely to be ready for the start of training camp, and is legitimately questionable for Week 1 2017. Trevathan was having a strong season playing all three downs. The Bears are going to be ludicrously thin for the final five weeks.
Source: Dan Wiederer on Twitter
Nov 28 - 2:30 PM
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
Grabbing Kap for a must win FF game.
flapgreen
Footballguy
FINALLY Braverman brought up. Good hearing coaches state for weeks that Braverman wasnt ready yet. I guess these other scrubs have been ready, though. Smh. This coaching staff is completely clueless on evaluating talent. Took a Langford injury to get Howard in the game. Took a record setting number of drops to bring up your 7th round rookie wr in a lost season. Horrible horrible horrible staff here
Thats remarkable. This team is interesting, got to give them that. Finding astonishing new ways to lose football games.
Bears free agents from the 2016 offseason:
Omar Bolden: Cut
Aaron Brewer: Cut
Jerrell Freeman: Suspended
Akiem Hicks: Active (zero tackles this week)
Brian Hoyer: IR
Ted Larson: Active (beaten out by rookie, backup, started 3 game due to injuries)
Bobby Massie: Active (bad)
Manny Ramirez: Retired
Danny Trevathan: IR
Omar Bolden: Cut
Aaron Brewer: Cut
Jerrell Freeman: Suspended
Akiem Hicks: Active (zero tackles this week)
Brian Hoyer: IR
Ted Larson: Active (beaten out by rookie, backup, started 3 game due to injuries)
Bobby Massie: Active (bad)
Manny Ramirez: Retired
Danny Trevathan: IR
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
PFF actually had Massie as one of the highest graded players on the offense Sunday. His score was in the 80's. He's actually been playing better, but overall it's been a terrible year for him.
flapgreen
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
Pace finally did an interview before the game with Jeff Joniak. Didn't say a word about Fox. Had every chance but only talked about how tough Cutler is. I think it's a foregone conclusion Fox is gone. The big question is where do they go at qb and what coach do they bring in to develop him.
KCitons
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
To be fair, if they had more attempts it's most likely that the average yards per rush would go down. I get what you're saying though, run the damn ball more.
Theyre also 30th in plays from scrimmage. You cant run the ball if you dont have the ball. Turnover ratio is -8, 24th in the league in converting 3rd downs.
These are all the residue of a bad team.
Max Power
Footballguy
2017 draft... Who do we like?
I really think the Bears lose to SF, but win a stupid game like Washington. End the season at 3-13. Probably #3 overall.
There are a couple DL (Garrett and Robinson) and any QB available at #3. Not the best crop, but not the worst.
Does Garrett fit what we're trying to do?
I like Kizer at 3 if he performs well at the combine. I think the guy will be solid NFL QB.
Scared to see reporting that Cutler is a "bargin" at his 2018 rate and worth keeping.
I really think the Bears lose to SF, but win a stupid game like Washington. End the season at 3-13. Probably #3 overall.
There are a couple DL (Garrett and Robinson) and any QB available at #3. Not the best crop, but not the worst.
Does Garrett fit what we're trying to do?
I like Kizer at 3 if he performs well at the combine. I think the guy will be solid NFL QB.
Scared to see reporting that Cutler is a "bargin" at his 2018 rate and worth keeping.
RBM
Footballguy
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
Garrett is the best player in the draft and I would love for the Bears to get him. Seems unlikely at this point that the Bears will have a shot at him because he should go number one overall. The Bears could take a QB and will have a shot at one of the top rated guys but I'm afraid none of them are actually worth that high of a pick. I'm leaning Trubisky right now. Allen could be great on defense as well. Tabor is another defensive player they could use for their secondary.
If they can't get Garrett I wouldn't mind seeing a trade down and taking the best player available. The more draft picks the better. They could still get a QB or DB later in the first round too.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Soldier Field with its worst attendance in many years, with 20,000 or so fans. The 2-9 Bears meet the 1-10 49ers in snowy Chicago. https://t.co/6HhH2Q5RTu
Chicago just has bad fans according to some around here. People are freaking fed up. Voicing their displeasure.
Chicago just has bad fans according to some around here. People are freaking fed up. Voicing their displeasure.
No reaching for a QB. I wouldn't mind seeing how Barkley rides this thing out. He has the pedigree and talent, imo, and has looked better than the rookie qbs from last year and some of the others (Osweiler hey!). Would be interesting to see how he would play if he had some actual talent at WR.
ETA: I would prefer they kept Cutler, Hoyer, or even Barkley if he continues to improve as a bridge next year instead of using a high pick on someone who probably doesn't really belong at that draft slots. The Bears don't have that luxury. Then maybe get someone in the second or third, if possible.
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KCitons
Footballguy
I have a feeling I'm in the minority here. But, I'm ok with the win today. I don't ever want our young players to think losing is acceptable.
If I was running things, I would keep Barkley and look at possibly cutting Cutler next year. I would build that offensive line over the next two years with high draft picks and value based (stop gap) free agents. I would add to the defense through the draft only, by building around the young pieces we already have. This team is 2-3 years (and another head coach) away from being competitive. The one thing that translates to every coach is a great offensive line. Drafting QB's or 3-4 defensive players just leads to players playing outside their comfort zone with the new coaching staff. I wouldn't go out of my way to keep Alshon or anyone else. We don't need to overpay to be 8-8.
If I was running things, I would keep Barkley and look at possibly cutting Cutler next year. I would build that offensive line over the next two years with high draft picks and value based (stop gap) free agents. I would add to the defense through the draft only, by building around the young pieces we already have. This team is 2-3 years (and another head coach) away from being competitive. The one thing that translates to every coach is a great offensive line. Drafting QB's or 3-4 defensive players just leads to players playing outside their comfort zone with the new coaching staff. I wouldn't go out of my way to keep Alshon or anyone else. We don't need to overpay to be 8-8.
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RBM
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
Spend it on who? Been shown time and time again you can't win signing big name free agents. I would agree with you if the Bears had any other wrs and didn't have much cap space. The fact is they will have 60 million or more in cap space and no other wide receivers to step in. Not re-signing your best offensive weapon wouldn't make any sense when you have no one else and you have the money. Whether he's worth it or not on the open market doesn't matter. His value to the Bears is important enough to pay him. And they will. Watch
flapgreen
Footballguy
Alshon IS building through the draft. He's one of the only guys left on the team they drafted and can sign. Moneyball with free agents over re-signing one of the few draft picks you hit on is a recipe for continued failure.
flapgreen
Footballguy
They lose Cutler’s salary after this year, along with Houston and Royal. Massie has been pitiful, so I doubt he's back. Leaves with a lot of space. Really have no huge contracts on the entire roster.
Could realistically sign one of the top FA safeties and RT, along with Alshon, and still have plenty of room to spare.
Could realistically sign one of the top FA safeties and RT, along with Alshon, and still have plenty of room to spare.
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
If you're referring to me then you'd be very wrong. I don't care if fans don't go to the game. That's one of the best ways to show a franchise you're ready for a change. Not going to the game doesn't make someone a bad fan, it's saying you're done with a team and switching to another team that makes someone a bad fan.
Even if the Bears had a .500 record the seats wouldn't be full. A snowy, sloppy day against a terrible Niners team. That doesn't draw a lot of fans generally.
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
I'll tell you not paying him gets you, guaranteed nothing. Paying at least give you the chance at something. I don't think anyone can deny his talent and if it wasn't for the PED suspension he would have played every game this season. He didn't miss anything due to injury this year like everyone expected him to.
Everyone thinks he's going to get overpaid but he's just going to get paid what the going rate is for good WRs. In 2 years Jeffery's contract will barely be in the top 12 after all the other big WRs get their new contracts. Just look at all the decent WRs that will be getting new contracts in the next 2 years and tell me how much is too much. Don't forget that the salary cap will be going up to.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
It turns out that there were actually 2,000 more people there yesterday than there were the game before.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Read from a couple bears guys yesterday that there were 30k combined with unsold tickets and no-shows.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Colin Kaepernick kneels during national anthem at Soldier Field. A fan yells, "Go home ya bum." https://t.co/wCfrSq0ryr
Makes me proud to be a Bears fan
Makes me proud to be a Bears fan
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
This is a little different but still kind of similar. As an Iowa Hawkeye fan I hear tons of complaints about head coach Kirk Ferentz. After a couple less than stellar seasons, which he does after a great year, a lot of fans decided to give up their season tickets. I completely understand trying to send a message by not buying tickets but be prepared for when things turn around.
At the start of last season we noticed a lot of people that tailgated around us were no longer there. We found that they gave up their season tickets. It turns out that a lot of people did it that year. Those people ended up missing Iowa history with their first ever 12-0 season. I said it when the season started too, they were going to regret it. I'm sure they proved their point but boy were they upset they missed out after being a season ticket holder for years.
At the start of last season we noticed a lot of people that tailgated around us were no longer there. We found that they gave up their season tickets. It turns out that a lot of people did it that year. Those people ended up missing Iowa history with their first ever 12-0 season. I said it when the season started too, they were going to regret it. I'm sure they proved their point but boy were they upset they missed out after being a season ticket holder for years.
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