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no you don't......I like Karlos Williams as much as the next guy
no you don't......I like Karlos Williams as much as the next guy
A Rex Ryan offense is usually good for 500+ rushes. Let's go ahead and give 100 of those to T-Mobile right off the bat - that leaves 400 to go around.no you don't......
sound logic, but pretty sure the next guy likes him more.A Rex Ryan offense is usually good for 500+ rushes. Let's go ahead and give 100 of those to T-Mobile right off the bat - that leaves 400 to go around.
Best case for Shady owners is that Karlos is a flash in the pan, and Shady again serves as the workhorse with 225 carries and 40+ catches. That's a foundation for a top-10 season barring injury.
A more pessimistic (and hey, maybe even more realistic) scenario is that Karlos is pretty darn good and those carries get split right down the middle. Assuming 50 carries to other guys, that'd leave a 175-175 split - plus maybe 25-30 catches - which for a lot of other NFL RB1s would be pretty close to a full workload.
In order to really supplant Shady (again, barring injury), Karlos probably has to have something like top-15 NFL RB talent. But if he really had top-15 talent, it's extremely unlikely that he'd have gone off the NFL draft board behind 154 other guys less than twelve months ago.
I'm willing to back the collective wisdom of NFL scouting departments and say there's a pretty small chance the worst-case scenario comes to pass here.
4.16 (64) - Ben Roethlisberger, PIT QB6: Hoped he might slip this far but hadn't counted on it. I like the hookup connection with Brown.1.01 (01) - Antonio Brown, PIT WR1: I loathe picking from the #1 slot. That said, I think this is the safest pick with the highest floor.
2.16 (32) - Kelvin Benjamin, CAR WR20: Really like Benjamins upside here.
3.01 (33) - Ezekiel Elliott, (R) RB9: Elliott will be a top 10 RB this year. No top 10 RB will be available at my next pick so I swung for the fences here.
4.16 (64) - Ben Roethlisberger, PIT QB6: Hoped he might slip this far but hadn't counted on it. I like the hookup connection with Brown.
5.01 (65) - Julius Thomas, JAC TE10: Wanted a TE here and Thomas will do.
really liked your turn here ruffrody
Brown played well last year and I think he's a player on the rise. I had thought he was inconsistent, a big play guy but looking back at 2015, he was remarkably consistent. Never scoring less than 9.2 pts except against Seattle. The only real concern there is his geriatric QB.QB: Aaron Rodgers (3.07)
RB: Todd Gurley (1.07), DeMarco Murray (4.10)
WR: Brandon Marshall (2.10), John Brown (5.07)
TE: Eric Ebron (6.10)
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I was starting to get excited thinking Maclin would fall to 4.10. But when Bro took him, I didn't particularly like the receivers left at the pick (some good players left sure). So figured I'd take the chance on Murray doing better in Nashville than Philly.
This is like a Bizarro World version of a Survivor League draft for me. Normally at this stage in my drafts I have at least two 23-year-olds with about 10 games of NFL experience and haven't even sniffed anyone over the age of 30.QB:
6.12 - Tony Romo, QB DAL (QB14)
RB:
4.12 - LeSean McCoy, RB BUF (RB17)
5.05 - Jeremy Hill, RB CIN (RB21)
WR:
1.05 - DeAndre Hopkins, WR HOU (WR4)
3.05 - T.Y. Hilton, WR IND (WR23)
TE:
2.12 - Greg Olsen, TE CAR (TE2)
Yes, I am a Chargers fan, but I like to think it doesn't influence how I draft. I was actually hoping for one of the four TEs that were taken just before I was up (Walker, Fleener, Kelce & Ertz). Green has a lot of upside in that offense, but still would have preferred one of the more proven ones from that TE run.Brown played well last year and I think he's a player on the rise. I had thought he was inconsistent, a big play guy but looking back at 2015, he was remarkably consistent. Never scoring less than 9.2 pts except against Seattle. The only real concern there is his geriatric QB.
Ebron was the last TE I liked remaining. He seems like he could break out, especially as they attempt to replace Calvin in presumably a committee approach. EE should get his share of extra looks. While he wasn't the TE I was targeting (was hoping ASJ would fall), he'll suffice as TE1 (TE15 taken).
It strikes me as somewhat interesting that Fresh Price took Gates and Green. Nice committee there, is he a Chargers fan? (yes I know Green is a Steeler now)
I wasn't going to be upset with Evans if AJ Green got taken before my turn. Buying guys coming off low TD years is the smart move. Their ADP suffers too much for such an unpredictable stat. DT however I am less comfortable with. He didn't look so good and has no QB. I'd have taken Alshon.I went WR - WR at the start again here as I did in the WSL 1 draft. It is quite a bit different though from the 12 spot as opposed to the 2. I like the Mike Evans - Demaryius Thomas duo, but their quarterback situation is not the best. Winston had a nice rookie season, completing 58.3% of his passes and Evans easily led the Bucs with 148 targets in 15 games or almost ten per game. Evans also had 16.3 ypr. The only issue with him last year was only 3 TDs.with Winston compared to 12 in his rookie season the year before. He should maintain the targets, possibly increase the receptions slightly and register a nice jump in TDs.
At this point, we don't know who Thomas will have throwing to him, but the Broncos quarterback play was not very good last season. Thomas has averaged over 11 targets per game the past two seasons and even if that number drops a little, he should catch between 90 and 105 passes and at least 1200 yards again this year. He had averaged almost 12 TDs for the past three season until dropping to only 6 last season. Expect more than 6, but probably no more than 10 this year. It will be interesting to see if expectations increase or decrease once the quarterback is known.
Yeah, seemed like a pretty crazy reach to me. He went 5.03 in my WSL league. Quite the gamble.Ruffrody selects Rookie Ezekiel Elliott at 3.1 as the ninth running back, quite a bit earlier than the WSLs. He is the consensus rookie draft #1 pick, but does he present value this early in re-draft?
Agree with FUBAR that one of the highlights of these early survivor drafts is the running commentary, so everybody join in and increase the fun!
4.13. Crabtree. I saw a huge dropoff at this point to the next guys but maybe I should have gone RB in Forte instead now. Will have to piece RB together now1.4 Gronk. I wanted Julio but settled for Gronk. I thought better value in 3rd for te instead but might as well experiment
2.13. Cobb. Again, I would have much rather Jordy who went a pick earlier. Cobb I like better than a guy like Cooks
3.4 Matthews. Probably too early but where I saw value other than Te or QB. I got a te and will wait on QB. I probably have been better drafting later
was hoping he'd drop to my 7th.4.13. Crabtree. I saw a huge dropoff at this point to the next guys but maybe I should have gone RB in Forte instead now. Will have to piece RB together now
5.4 Gordon. I really should have taken Forte instead and missed up my order with pre-selects. I needed a RB and he offers chance to improve in year 2
6.13. Stafford. I had a choice of 3 guys here and am great with waiting on QB because of it. Could have come back with Ryan/Eli also with next pick to make a nice duo but I have other guys I like that might be had later
7.4 DeSean. Just saw value at this point in time Ryan was my next pre-select and a few other guys still not picked in here that I thought brought value.
WR core looking pretty nice to this point. Happy with TE and know there is guys I can get to make a nice backup and QB is off to a good start. Just RB will be an issue but we will see. I wont be getting Henry in the 8th like the WSL's.
I don't trust Martin enough to pay RB6 prices and think Fleener would still have been there for you in the 4th, but the rest of your team is great value. Heck of a start here and really makes me wish I'd passed over a 2nd RB to grab a Hurns type in the 5th.FF Ninja said:1.13 WR9 AJ Green - Hue Jackson, Jones, and Sanu are gone so I expect more passes and for AJ Green and Eifert to be the key recipients. I was yet again unable to land Eifert in round 3. So disappoint.
2.04 RB6 Doug Martin - couldn't pass on the value. Same system, age 27, finished top 3 last year. I expect this offense to take a step forward. I don't think he's a top 6 RB talent, but I do think he's a top 6 fantasy commodity.
3.13 TE8 Coby Fleener - like Martin, not a huge fan of his talent, but I can't ignore the situation. Ben Watson tore it up last year at age 35. His primary competition for targets is the very mediocre Cooks. I think Fleener at least justifies his ADP, with a good shot at top 3 in this format (2ppr TE).
4.04 WR27 Eric Decker - I love Decker and I love Gailey. He'll be productive no matter the QB. WR27 is a steal for him.
5.13 WR35 Allen Hurns - another guy that seems to be a steal. I really wanted Michael Floyd, but I can't complain with Hurns. I expect them to run a lot more this year so his targets and TDs might suffer, but he wasn't healthy last year so there will be some balancing. Even if his numbers take a dip, WR35 is still easily attainable.
6.04 QB12 Carson Palmer - I almost took him at 5.13. Was really torn between the values of him and Hurns. Can't believe he slipped to 12th. His WR trio is back and he won't be saddled with Chris Johnson getting all the carries, so this offense should actually get better.
Hmm, maybe, but none of those guys behind me had TEs. I saw a steep drop off between him and the next guy (solely due to volume), plus I had my eye on Decker in the 4th.I don't trust Martin enough to pay RB6 prices and think Fleener would still have been there for you in the 4th, but the rest of your team is great value. Heck of a start here and really makes me wish I'd passed over a 2nd RB to grab a Hurns type in the 5th.
Romo is solid, but you better pair him with someone in round 7 because he does seem to be getting fragile with age. Back injuries are worrisome. I don't like to grab QBs early in best ball leagues, so I see Romo as a good QB1.QB:
6.12 - Tony Romo, QB DAL (QB14)
RB:
4.12 - LeSean McCoy, RB BUF (RB17)
5.05 - Jeremy Hill, RB CIN (RB21)
WR:
1.05 - DeAndre Hopkins, WR HOU (WR4)
3.05 - T.Y. Hilton, WR IND (WR23)
TE:
2.12 - Greg Olsen, TE CAR (TE2)
This is like a Bizarro World version of a Survivor League draft for me. Normally at this stage in my drafts I have at least two 23-year-olds with about 10 games of NFL experience and haven't even sniffed anyone over the age of 30.
Romo ranks 7th among all starters in ANY/A over the past five years, and he's not nearly the injury risk the Internet makes fun of him for being (last year was the first time in that span he didn't start 15+ games). Having AlMo as a reliable backfield option should take some pressure off of him this season.
Hill has one outstanding season and one mediocre one on his resume. If I win the coin flip as to which one he'll put up in '16, I've got myself a top-10 RB at a low-end RB2 price. If not, meh, that's why we go 20 rounds deep in these things.
Short answer: I'm not playing for sixth place. Bass evaluated a few years' worth of these leagues and found that "floor" really didn't matter much - the highest-scoring teams overall tended to be the ones finishing at the top. I like to take big swings in the hopes of being one of those highest-scoring teams, even if it means flaming out in September if I don't call my shots.Just curious, why do you typically prefer young players in this format and avoid veterans?
Fleener was not going to make it back to you. I was bummed that I had to settle for Green. Green and Fleener may have similar upside, but I see Fleener's floor being much higher as Brees's track record with using his TE's is long and impressive.Hmm, maybe, but none of those guys behind me had TEs. I saw a steep drop off between him and the next guy (solely due to volume), plus I had my eye on Decker in the 4th.
While I am not a huge Doug fan, I don't see why people are still gun shy about this guy. He admitted he let himself get out of shape after his rookie year and rededicated himself last year. Seemed like he learned his lesson. Also, the team was total crap around him until Koetter showed up and righted the ship. I think he's one of the safest bets at the position. I mean, look at the guys around him - so many question marks. I just don't trust Peterson at his age, Freeman seemed flukey to me, Charles is coming off injury with 2 competent guys behind him, Elliott is a rookie, Ingram's always hurt, Lacy we all know the story, Rawls only really played 6 meaningful games last year... I was planning to punt RB so I wanted one solid guy. Was able to snag Sims as insurance, which was an unexpected bonus.
Oh, I agree that you need to score a lot of points, but I don't think rookies are the way to do that. They feel very expensive in these leagues when people are buying guys on the hope they land in the best situation possible.Short answer: I'm not playing for sixth place. Bass evaluated a few years' worth of these leagues and found that "floor" really didn't matter much - the highest-scoring teams overall tended to be the ones finishing at the top. I like to take big swings in the hopes of being one of those highest-scoring teams, even if it means flaming out in September if I don't call my shots.
Also, this far ahead of the season, I generally find high-risk, high-upside guys go at something resembling fair value (as opposed to my money league drafts in August where, after tearing up training camp, getting talked up by Bill Simmons, etc., they often get drafted closer to their ceiling).
So, naturally, I fully expect this team to take home the title while the rest of my teams are skydiving without a parachute.
Well, that's good to hear. I like Green's talent more than Fleener, but I just don't like his situation nearly as much. I got lucky and drafted Green before free agency in WSL2... got him dirt cheap at 8.12. Somebody else got Fleener at 9.14 Hindsight is a #####!Fleener was not going to make it back to you. I was bummed that I had to settle for Green. Green and Fleener may have similar upside, but I see Fleener's floor being much higher as Brees's track record with using his TE's is long and impressive.
I love the Sims pick BTW. I struggled with taking either him or Snead with my last pick. Ended up with Snead, obviously, but regret it a little.
Nah, Rodgers in the 3rd is a steal. I don't draft my QBs early in these leagues, but if he fell to me at 3.13 I'd have been obligated to take him.QB: Aaron Rodgers (3.07), Alex Smith (8.10)
RB: Todd Gurley (1.07), DeMarco Murray (4.10), Duke Johnson (7.07)
WR: Brandon Marshall (2.10), John Brown (5.07)
TE: Eric Ebron (6.10)
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I probably went too high on both QBs but they score higher than any other position so getting a good stable here is important. Smith is always undervalued due to a perceived lack of upside. I wouldn't want him as my starter but as the backup in case Rodgers were to be injured or just have a bad game or two? He'll suffice nicely.
It was a toss up IMO. I couldn't say someone taking Floyd first would be wrong, but over four years Floyd has one 1k season and one season over 60 receptions despite not missing much time and a lower reception rate. I don't remember how much of that is injury. I know it's a minority opinion when I say Brown will be the better receiver going forward, but there it is.Nah, Rodgers in the 3rd is a steal. I don't draft my QBs early in these leagues, but if he fell to me at 3.13 I'd have been obligated to take him.
Was a little surprised to see John Brown go before Michael Floyd. Floyd got sniped from me in WSL and I felt very defeated when I had to settle for John Brown. Floyd went 2 picks ahead of me in this league, too. Damn it.
I think we're in violent agreement, then. I rarely draft rookies in the SL ... very rarely ... as in "picked two or three of them in my entire history in these leagues" rarely.Oh, I agree that you need to score a lot of points, but I don't think rookies are the way to do that. They feel very expensive in these leagues when people are buying guys on the hope they land in the best situation possible.
I'm not really a fan of full point PPR, but this format really makes it easy to get lucky and find a true difference maker late in the game. I recall Sproles carrying me his first year in NO and Welker being huge after a down year due to coming back early from an ACL tear. Woodhead probably carried a lot of people last year. Fitzgerald was likely a bargain difference maker, too.
I like the philosophy. Personally, I just look for value and usually want a few cornerstones to rely upon. But my WSL1 team reflects your plan for the most part (albeit with a couple rookies and a couple 30 year olds, but plenty of upside risk)Very representative of my usual SL squad ... some "up and comers" and some "post-hype sleepers", but pretty sure there's not a single guy over age 30. Lots of guys who could be five rounds higher in August ADP, or could be going undrafted. Go big or go home.
It was the majority opinion this time last year. Everybody loved Smokey. But Floyd was going to be the starter until he dislocated his finger, missed all the preseason games, and was slowly worked back into the lineup. His production in the second half of the season leads me to believe he's going to have a big 2016.It was a toss up IMO. I couldn't say someone taking Floyd first would be wrong, but over four years Floyd has one 1k season and one season over 60 receptions despite not missing much time and a lower reception rate. I don't remember how much of that is injury. I know it's a minority opinion when I say Brown will be the better receiver going forward, but there it is.
Yeah, I'm in that one with you. Loved your hashtag commentary on the draft list. I wanted Kearse. Thought he'd find a new home with more targets. You definitely got a steal with Wheaton due to the Bryant suspension.I think we're in violent agreement, then. I rarely draft rookies in the SL ... very rarely ... as in "picked two or three of them in my entire history in these leagues" rarely.
But I tend to be hugely overweight the second- and third-year guys who flashed in limited usage the year before, find themselves moving up the depth chart due to FA, are forgotten combine warriors from a couple years back, etc. Hell, just take a look at my final roster from WSL2 this year ...
3.07 - Cam Newton, QB CAR | QB1
8.10 - Tyrod Taylor, QB BUF | QB23
1.07 - Todd Gurley, RB LA | RB2
4.10 - Eddie Lacy, RB GB | RB15
9.07 - Javorious Allen, RB BAL | RB40
14.10 - David Cobb, RB TEN | RB53
2.10 - Brandin Cooks, WR NO | WR18
6.10 - DeSean Jackson, WR WAS | WR40
7.07 - Stefon Diggs, WR MIN | WR47
10.10 - Markus Wheaton, WR PIT | WR60
12.10 - Jermaine Kearse, WR SEA | WR69
16.10 - Seth Roberts, WR OAK | WR81
20.10 - Leonte Carroo, WR ROOK | WR104
5.07 - Julius Thomas, TE JAX | TE9
11.07 - Jordan Cameron, TE MIA | TE25
19.07 - Jace Amaro, TE NYJ | TE35
Very representative of my usual SL squad ... some "up and comers" and some "post-hype sleepers", but pretty sure there's not a single guy over age 30. Lots of guys who could be five rounds higher in August ADP, or could be going undrafted. Go big or go home.
So upthread Ninja wrote: "Romo is solid, but you better pair him with someone in round 7 because he does seem to be getting fragile with age." Little did he know I'd already done just that 12 hours earlier. WHO'S THE NINJA NOW, B###?QB:
6.12 - Tony Romo, QB DAL (QB14)
7.05 - Eli Manning, QB NYG (QB16)
RB:
4.12 - LeSean McCoy, RB BUF (RB17)
5.05 - Jeremy Hill, RB CIN (RB21)
WR:
1.05 - DeAndre Hopkins, WR HOU (WR4)
3.05 - T.Y. Hilton, WR IND (WR23)
8.12 - Travis Benjamin, WR SD (WR47)
TE:
2.12 - Greg Olsen, TE CAR (TE2)
part of me kind of thinks even though Benjamin moved to a better team, qb, offense, etc......that it may not necessarily translate into better fantasy stats than he put up last year....Benjamin went WR51 on average on the WSLs when there was still some chance he'd be back in the Cleveland garbage fire in 2016. Now he's got far and away the best QB of his career, on a WR corps that doesn't have much beyond Allen, in an offense that puts up plenty of yards and points. I don't know what that should mean as an ADP bump, but I'm pretty sure it should be more than four spots.
I'm in this camp. Could have gone from 1st/2nd in the pecking order to 5th (behind Woodwead, Gates, Allen, SJohn)part of me kind of thinks even though Benjamin moved to a better team, qb, offense, etc......that it may not necessarily translate into better fantasy stats than he put up last year....
Fair point, but then again Benjamin finished WR27 last year - so I'd be thrilled if all he did was repeat last year's numbers. And Woodhead, Gates and Stevie are gonna be a combined 97 years old this season, so just because Benji's behind them in the pecking order on Week 1 doesn't mean it'll be the case all year.part of me kind of thinks even though Benjamin moved to a better team, qb, offense, etc......that it may not necessarily translate into better fantasy stats than he put up last year....
kinda what I was saying....so yeah you should be thrilled cause he may indeed struggle to provide that type of production again....as you mentioned it may have been his "career year" so if you will draft him a bunch this summer based on him continuing that pace, you may be disappointed....on a lot of your teams...personally he is on my "avoid" list at this price because of the change in teams....his value to me has actually decreased by going to a better "real football" situation....as with the Chargers making the classic mistake, I think many fantasy owners will do the same....Fair point, but then again Benjamin finished WR27 last year - so I'd be thrilled if all he did was repeat last year's numbers.
8.16 (128) - Jay Ajayi, MIA RB36: Felt a need to strengthen this position a little bit.1.01 (01) - Antonio Brown, PIT WR1: I loathe picking from the #1 slot. That said, I think this is the safest pick with the highest floor.
2.16 (32) - Kelvin Benjamin, CAR WR20: Really like Benjamins upside here.
3.01 (33) - Ezekiel Elliott, (R) RB9: Elliott will be a top 10 RB this year. No top 10 RB will be available at my next pick so I swung for the fences here.
4.16 (64) - Ben Roethlisberger, PIT QB6: Hoped he might slip this far but hadn't counted on it. I like the hookup connection with Brown.
5.01 (65) - Julius Thomas, JAC TE10: Wanted a TE here and Thomas will do.
6.16 (96) - Tyler Lockett, SEA WR39: Capable 3rd WR
7.01 (97) - Derrick Henry, (R) RB28: No reasonable excuse to go in this direction, but I did.
(BTW, the last 6 picks were all pre-drafted and every one was my first choice in each rounds queue. Just strange, usually get sniped on someone.....)
I gave serious thought to Wheaton myself at 9.05 (got him in the 10th in WSL2 and that was before Bryant's suspension). Only thing that kept me from pulling the trigger on him is the suspicion that Tomlin will be using Ladarius, who is a genuine physical freak, split out as a psuedo-WR much more than Heath was, which could put a hard ceiling on Wheaton's targets.I think Wheaton was great value also. So was Rudolph.
it was between him and Bennett for me as well....just thought with Bell back, Green in town, DHB resigned, etc., it might not be all there....not sold on him just yet....but it is for sure worth a look.....I gave serious thought to Wheaton myself at 9.05 (got him in the 10th in WSL2 and that was before Bryant's suspension). Only thing that kept me from pulling the trigger on him is the suspicion that Tomlin will be using Ladarius, who is a genuine physical freak, split out as a psuedo-WR much more than Heath was, which could put a hard ceiling on Wheaton's targets.
No doubt the middle of the 9th could be crazy value for the likely #2 WR in a pass-happy offense, though.
Ah yes, I probably should have glanced at the draft board in which case I would have said, "good job pairing him with the steady but unspectacular Eli." It makes for a combo that won't carry you to a title, but it won't cost you one, either.So upthread Ninja wrote: "Romo is solid, but you better pair him with someone in round 7 because he does seem to be getting fragile with age." Little did he know I'd already done just that 12 hours earlier. WHO'S THE NINJA NOW, B###?
Seriously, though, I really like my QB combo. Not flashy, not sexy, but plenty of fantasy points. And Eli hasn't missed a game since his rookie season, so the perfect answer to whatever durability worries Romo might inspire.
Benjamin went WR51 on average on the WSLs when there was still some chance he'd be back in the Cleveland garbage fire in 2016. Now he's got far and away the best QB of his career, on a WR corps that doesn't have much beyond Allen, in an offense that puts up plenty of yards and points. I don't know what that should mean as an ADP bump, but I'm pretty sure it should be more than four spots.
I'll agree with the uncertainty about Wheaton. I'm not expecting big stats for the season but a few big games is almost a certainty IMO.FUBAR said:QB: Aaron Rodgers (3.07), Alex Smith (8.10)
RB: Todd Gurley (1.07), DeMarco Murray (4.10), Duke Johnson (7.07)
WR: Brandon Marshall (2.10), John Brown (5.07), Markus Wheaton (9.07), Mike Wallace (10.10)
TE: Eric Ebron (6.10)
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I love it when a plan comes together. honestly I didn't think Wheaton was going to fall to the 9th (heck, he was taken in the 7th in W1 and 10th in W2 before Bryant's suspension). But I'm glad to have him here.
I was confounded by Wallace's play in Minnesota. He played much better in Miami than given credit for. But ever since he left there, he has not produced. He does have the potential to regain some of his high ypc that he had earlier in his career with Roethlisberger. Flacco, as you said, has a good arm and is reasonably accurate on deep balls, so he could again take a step forward. Another good selection, particularly in best ball format.I'll agree with the uncertainty about Wheaton. I'm not expecting big stats for the season but a few big games is almost a certainty IMO.
Wallace is a hard guy to judge. I think he can be very good with Flacco throwing the rock, Joe is easily the best deep passer MW has played with recently. I figure the two Ws will make a nice WR3BC.
you're referring to one year as "ever since"?I was confounded by Wallace's play in Minnesota. He played much better in Miami than given credit for. But ever since he left there, he has not produced. He does have the potential to regain some of his high ypc that he had earlier in his career with Roethlisberger. Flacco, as you said, has a good arm and is reasonably accurate on deep balls, so he could again take a step forward. Another good selection, particularly in best ball format.
Wallace sucks and is a POS....how he has a job after his press conference with Gibson is beyond me.....i realize somebody will always give these guys a chance and in his case think they can rekindle whatever small flame he had in PIT.....but Wallace is all about Wallace and he'll burn this bridge too and eventually find something wrong with Flacco and company....some things you can count on.....means nothing in fantasy I know, but I wish nothing but bad karma to any fantasy team that drafts this POS....