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Donny Loved Bowling said:
Wonder who the most commonly owned player is... I'm thinking Marvin Jones. Anyone else care to speculate?
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Case Keenum but Marvin Jones is a solid guess too.

 
I hate to break it to you guys but I have the perfect roster. I'll post once the contest closes. Sorry in advance (for winning the contest). 

 
Of course I just HAD To restart after seeing a little preseason, and I had guys like Bridgewater in there.  Just a mess, but I started to find lower $ guys I liked at positions which was good.  Throwing a bunch into the WRs...

QB - 3 for $37

RB - 7 for $64

WR - 8 for $101

TE - 4 for $30

PK - 3 for $8

DT - 4 for $10

29 players, and right at the $250 max.  Every position has all different bye weeks except Rbs, and they have 6 different bye weeks out of the 7 guys.   

 
Any chance to put the BYE weeks on the pick page in parentheses before you hit submit? I know they show up after you submit. Just something to ponder on, not a major issue obviously. Thanks again!

 
RayJ said:
Any chance to put the BYE weeks on the pick page in parentheses before you hit submit? I know they show up after you submit. Just something to ponder on, not a major issue obviously. Thanks again!
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The request is made every year and the answer is always "no."  It's actually nice that they don't--it helps weed out those who aren't "serious" about digging into the contest.

 
A few quick updates on the What If? rosters:

  • I lied, scores will (or at least, should) update in real-time just like the real entries.  
  • If you want to add one to your profile, do so before NFL Week 1 is over.  At that point I'm going to lock them since I'm not going to retroactively re-score prior weeks, they'll just be stored as static values.  
 
I'm probably too invested at QB. I just can't bring myself to go w/ only 2. And I don't like enough of the cheap options. I think the QB pricing is tougher this year than in years past. 

 
I spent $150 on QB. Do you guys think that's a good strategy?  I figure locking in 40 points every week at a key position is critical in winning this over 16 weeks.

 
FUBAR said:
Casey seems like a waste of $2, I'd rather take a 3rd kicker or d.

JJ might be the most owned but I'm betting on folk. 
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No reason Keenum keeps you from a 3rd kicker or D. I'm in the camp that any starting QB has to be worth >$2 but I'd be happy to be wrong about ownership.  

 
cheese said:
No reason Keenum keeps you from a 3rd kicker or D. I'm in the camp that any starting QB has to be worth >$2 but I'd be happy to be wrong about ownership.  
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I get the logic but will he start all year? 

The combo of Brady/Keenum and a 3rd might work cheap enough.  

 
QBs, PKs and DST.  I always struggle between plentiful low-cost picks for a consistent floor, or fewer high-cost ones for higher ceilings.

 
halebop78 said:
 is this a player who ever it may be to avoid or covet?
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It depends.  Usually, you want to have some uniqueness to your team to succeed if you reach the finals.  But, sometimes you need the crowd favorite, too.  In Arian Foster's first year he was listed for something like $2 and then won the starting job in training camp. He ended up on like 2/3 of all teams, and when he had a great year, you were dead in the water if you didn't have him, becasue there were thousands of teams ahead of you every week just from his score.  By week 12 he was on about 95% of the teams left,.  The teams that were "unique" because they didn't have him never got to the finals to use that quality.

 
L3gion said:
QBs, PKs and DST.  I always struggle between plentiful low-cost picks for a consistent floor, or fewer high-cost ones for higher ceilings.
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I think it's worth paying up for QBs, where you're likely getting a consistently higher floor and a higher ceiling, but not for K and D, where quantity trumps quality.  But I've been playing this contest for about a decade and don't think I've ever cashed, so take it with a grain of salt. :shrug:  

 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
I think it's worth paying up for QBs, where you're likely getting a consistently higher floor and a higher ceiling, but not for K and D, where quantity trumps quality.  But I've been playing this contest for about a decade and don't think I've ever cashed, so take it with a grain of salt. :shrug:  
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I've always gone cheap on Ks and Ds, too, and actually made it to #13 one year.  However, when I looked at last year's finals, only 2 of the top 30 finishers used that strategy.  The rest spent a few bucks extra on their Ds (either with one high-end D or several mid-range Ds).  That's enough to have me rethinking my strategy.

 
I'm starting to really like my team, and its 28 players.  When I started tinkering a month ago, I kept hitting around 20 players.  I think there is plenty of value to be found now.  Happens every year.

 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
I think it's worth paying up for QBs, where you're likely getting a consistently higher floor and a higher ceiling, but not for K and D, where quantity trumps quality.  But I've been playing this contest for about a decade and don't think I've ever cashed, so take it with a grain of salt. :shrug:  
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I've always been a proponent of 3 or 4 of the cheapest K's and D's.  This year I decided to spend for one higher priced D, that I think has the potential to become of the top D's in the league and two of the $2 defenses.  

 
cheese said:
No reason Keenum keeps you from a 3rd kicker or D. I'm in the camp that any starting QB has to be worth >$2 but I'd be happy to be wrong about ownership.  
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I understand the appeal, but he'd have to be an afterthought for me, like if I wind up with $2 extra. And that never happens, I'm usually left with just $1 trying to find a place for it and I upgrade somewhere else instead. I'm just betting that Keenum probably won't start the whole year.

 
LittlePhatty said:
I understand the appeal, but he'd have to be an afterthought for me, like if I wind up with $2 extra. And that never happens, I'm usually left with just $1 trying to find a place for it and I upgrade somewhere else instead. I'm just betting that Keenum probably won't start the whole year.
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I'm actually in that spot right now, with $2 extra and I am happy with my roster as is.  I could spend it on a 5th kicker, 4th defense, or Keenum.  I have two QBs in the $10-15 range, and I doubt Keenum would ever score over them, but at the same time I doubt adding a defense like the Saints will do much for my team either.  There is also one $2 RB and one $2 WR I like but they may be even bigger long shots to contribute.  

 
4 QBs: $42

8 RBs: $87

8 WRs: $72

4 TEs: $29

3 Ks: $9

2 DEF: $10

1 spot and $1 leftover.

This could very well be a flop and be eliminated first round, but it's worth a shot I suppose.

Where can I see where I finished last year?

 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
Another little announcement: If you like to drive yourself nuts, I just added a new feature to my FBG contest site.  You can now create an alternate "What If?" roster and save it to your profile so you can track its performance over the course of the season.  Check it out here (you'll need to have a profile and be logged in, so do that if necessary):  http://o.ffense.com/fbg35k/whatif.php

A few notes:

  • I just put this together this afternoon so there could very well be something wrong with it - please let me know if you find bugs!
  • The scores for these most likely won't update in realtime, it will just be a kind of weekly update after each NFL weekend is done.  I don't really want to mess too much with the existing live scoring process because it's poorly written and poorly documented so I'm apt to screw something up.  EDIT: I lied, I think live scoring will work for these. 
  • You can only create one alternate entry.  I imagine some of you might want more than that, but it's not in the cards for now.  I'm really hoping at some point I'll have some downtime to basically rebuild the entire site, at which point I'll try to add more features.  
  • Just like on the real FBG site, every time you submit an alternate roster, it overwrites any previous rosters you've saved.  There is no warning, no "undo," no nothing.  It's just gone - so be sure that's what you want to do.
  • Unlike the FBG site, it doesn't check to see if the roster is vaild.  So if you just check a single player and click Submit, it'll accept it.  Similarly if you check every player and click Submit, it will give you a 389 player roster.  Please don't do this!  If you just want a complete list of all the players and their weekly scores, that already exists, don't use this page for that purpose.  This is just meant to be a place for us to save and follow the progress of a second hypothetical contest entry.  If you find yourself wanting to use this page for some other purpose, just let me know and I'll try to build a tool to do whatever you're trying to do.  
Feedback, questions, complaints etc. are all welcome here or via the Contact link on site.   :thumbup:
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Iggy,Thanks again for this it's a great tool and makes this even more enjoyable than it already is.Even though I am about as low tech as you can get I know that this must have took a lot of time an effort.I donated again this year and encourage every one to use this tool and throw a little something your way.I entered the first team of the what seems like thousands of teams I picked.I wanted to see if the old saying study long study wrong is correct.Again thanks its much appreciated.

 
My final tally, at least until I change it:

3 QB: $23

9 RB: $77

8 WR: $93

4 TE: $33

3 K: $10

3 TD: $14

All told, I'm using 30 players to spend my $250.

 
(HULK) said:
I'm starting to really like my team, and its 28 players.  When I started tinkering a month ago, I kept hitting around 20 players.  I think there is plenty of value to be found now.  Happens every year.
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:yes: although I'm at 27. 

 
Not touching it again...

  • 2QB's for $25.  Wanted one more, but could not make it work.
  • 4 RB's for $70. Risky strategy here, hoping they all stay healthy.
  • 5WRs for $115. Studs, loaded up.
  • 3 TEs for $23. All value picks
  • 3 PKs for $7
  • 2 D's for $10
 
Raback said:
I'm actually in that spot right now, with $2 extra and I am happy with my roster as is.  I could spend it on a 5th kicker, 4th defense, or Keenum.  I have two QBs in the $10-15 range, and I doubt Keenum would ever score over them, but at the same time I doubt adding a defense like the Saints will do much for my team either.  There is also one $2 RB and one $2 WR I like but they may be even bigger long shots to contribute.  
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One of my favorite sleepers this year, although he won't be rostered in small leagues is a $2 receiver.  I'm taking him everywhere except the one 12 team league I'm in this year.  

 
I think I'm done.  I usually go back every 2-3 days and tinker some more, but this is the third straight time I've liked what I've had.  Loading up on RB-WR and going bargain basement everywhere else.

QB - 3 for $20
RB - 6 for $91
WR - 6 for $103
TE - 3 for $16
K - 4 for $9
DE - 4 for $11

 
QBs x3 = $35

RBs x7 = $64 (love the value <$15 at RB)

WR's x6 = $94 (obviously where I expect the heavy lifting to take place)

TE's x4 = $37

Ks x 3 = $10

DST x3 = $10

Probably tweak it a bit more, but really like where it is right now, with the information that we have.

 
3 QBs-42

5 RBs-87

6 WRs-85

3 TEs-21

3 Ks-7

3 Ds-8

Went back to smaller roster after years of going 30.Went to champ weeks with large roster several times but never made a big splash.So figured do it different this year.

 
KarmaPolice said:
Of course I just HAD To restart after seeing a little preseason, and I had guys like Bridgewater in there.  Just a mess, but I started to find lower $ guys I liked at positions which was good.  Throwing a bunch into the WRs...

QB - 3 for $37

RB - 7 for $64

WR - 8 for $101

TE - 4 for $30

PK - 3 for $8

DT - 4 for $10

29 players, and right at the $250 max.  Every position has all different bye weeks except Rbs, and they have 6 different bye weeks out of the 7 guys.   
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Hopefully I am done putzing with this this (yeah, right).  Didn't like the cheap options I had at RB, so I condensed them into a mid level guy and tweaked my WRs too.  Now it's:

QB - 3 for $37

RB - 5 for $63

WR - 8 for $102

TE - 4 for $30

PK - 3 for $8

DT - 4 for $10

Changed to 27 players still at the $250 max. Now the RBs all have different bye weeks, and there are 7 different bye weeks out of the 8 WRs. 

 
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Last one!  

QB - 3 / $29RB - 8 / $68WR - 7 / $93TE - 4 / $39PK - 3 / $10TD - 3 / $11

Mix of studs and fliers for the most part, trying something new with 3 QB, K, and D.  RB is mostly made up of "I think this might work" types.  WR is easily the strength of the team. 

 
Felt like I lacked studs in the home stretch last year, and I'm probably overcorrecting right now, but oh well.

QB: 2/$27

RB: 5/$72

WR: 6/$95

TE: 3/$37

PK: 3/$7

D/ST: 3/$10

 
One thing about taking several cheap kickers is that you definitely have to check your guysafter the 53-man deadline.

 
heckmanm said:
One thing about taking several cheap kickers is that you definitely have to check your guysafter the 53-man deadline.
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Sure, but there's still a fair chance another team cuts theirs and signs a fa, into the season.  Can't really help that except to take good kickers. 

 
Sorry....can't confirm this is final.  Still 72 hours left.

QB 3 / $32

RB 7 / $73

WR 8 / $89

TE 5 / $37

PK 2 / $9

DE 2 / $10

27 players.  Zero players in top 8 at any position.

 
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