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I had it muted, but was wondering what the hell that was all about when it happened.
I like how the announcer kept making a big deal that NC State hadn't won in Chapel Hill since 2015!
I noticed that, too. He could have made the point he seemed to think he was making with other facts, given State was 3-27 against UNC under Roy Williams entering the game... 3 wins in 14 seasons.
There were about 15 times they could have folded in the last 10 minutes and no one would have thought any less of them for doing so. They have gonads the size of Texas.Huge win for many reasons - rivalry, RPI, road win, new coach...
State looks like a NCAA tournament team, something no one outside the program expected entering this season.
That's a fun team to watch. Three wins against Arizona, Duke and UNC going to help them big time on Selection Sunday.Huge win for many reasons - rivalry, RPI, road win, new coach...
State looks like a NCAA tournament team, something no one outside the program expected entering this season.
Yes, they not only overcame UNC, they overcame terrible officiating. They had to win the game twice, since the refs made a phantom foul call with 4 seconds left in regulation that enabled UNC to tie.
I think they need 5 more wins to clinch a bid. 4 more wins might do it, but they would probably have to sweat it out.
If that Center could play more consistently, they'd be really tough. He disappears for long stretches.
Another pleasing State fact. This season is just the third time in program history that State has beaten UNC and Duke when both were in the top 10. The previous two times were 1988-89 and 1990-91, which were loaded teams with Corchiani, Monroe, Gugliotta, et al... and Valvano, of course.Just Win Baby said:
It's weird, I did not expect to care very much about the game last night. It doesn't mean that much to UNC- maybe it gets them a shot at a double-bye in the ACC tournament or moves them up from the 6 line to the 4 or 5 line in the big dance, but that's about it. Pretty small potatoes after the last two seasons. And it's hard to muster any hatred for Duke these days considering the roster turnover and the absence of a real villain or rivalry story line (I don't feel strongly about Grayson Allen like some other Duke haters do).
This team won't need to sneak in, barring a complete collapse with 4 games to go. 70 of 77 brackets at bracketmatrix.com have State in right now.
Just shows you have absolutely bad Gott sucked. He couldnt have cared less about winning college ball.This team won't need to sneak in, barring a complete collapse with 4 games to go. 70 of 77 brackets at bracketmatrix.com have State in right now.
realtimerpi.com predicts State to sweep its remaining 4 regular season games, which would result in a 12-6 regular season conference record. That would be better than any record under Gottfried, who made it to 11-7 once. Heck, from a regular season perspective, that would probably rank as State's best season since 1988-89 under Valvano.
realtimerpi.com also predicts that UNC and Clemson will each lose 2 more games. If all of their predictions turn out to be correct, State would be the #3 seed in the ACC tournament! I'm not holding my breath on that, but this season has been really enjoyable, and I am very impressed with Keatts. Archie who?
I noticed you stopped Yow bashing. Maybe you can similarly move on and not have to bring up Gottfried every time you post about State basketball.
Eff yow and eff gott. Two peas in a pod. She not only shielded him in his personal indiscretions but actually rewarded him with a raise and ext even after he got reprimanded for hitting on an intern in his second season in the athletic dept. Go back and read my posts on him, I knew he was a POS from the jump and his actions and the way Yow covered for him was despicable. Once his results started to slide Wendall Murphy had enough and pulled the plug. She is truly lucky to still have a job truth be told after all he did and there will be a sigh of relief when she finally hangs it up next year.
Two more wins (tomorrow at home vs BC and should beat GT to death) and they are in, IMO. They have four wins against top 15 teams (Duke, UNC, Clemson, and Arizona).
Pretty extreme view.
I don't know; I found his continual take refreshing in the face of a ton of NCSU fans in here who would get all yelly and shout down any attack on Gottfried no matter how self-evidently terrible he was.
I think part of it is narrative.
Yeah I suppose it'll work itself out for them. And I agree, can't possibly deny them if they win out the regular season (which they should) and reach the final of the tournament.TLEF316 said:
You found his take 'refreshing?' That is a bit extreme IMO, but I suppose YMMV.Aerial Assault said:
I'm a huge admirer of Yow. But Gottfried was a disastrous retread and just as bad a game coach as Lowe was - yes, I said it. Once his recruiting "caught up" with his inability to coach a game, he fell off completely and suddenly everyone (justifiably) wanted him fired.You found his take 'refreshing?' That is a bit extreme IMO, but I suppose YMMV.
Bottom line, Gottfried seasons 1-4 was better than any coach at State since Valvano. A low bar, to be sure, but that contributed to fans trying to hold onto optimism. Myself included. His last two seasons were complete disaster, outside of recruiting. And he was rightfully fired.
@pantherclub has bashed AD Yow for years, basically ever since she arrived. During that time, she upgraded football coach from O'Brien to Doeren, hired Gottfried to replace Lowe and subsequently replaced Gottfried with Keatts, and upgraded other sports programs essentially across the board. State is ranked higher than ever in the Directors Cup (I realize that some people, presumably including @pantherclub, do not care). She was criticized for her financial management of the Maryland athletic department, largely unjustifiably, and she has done a fine job with State's AD budget. @pantherclub is wrong about her.
It is not disputable that Gott was an upgrade on Lowe. Again, that is a low bar, but he made 2 Sweet 16s. The last State coach to do that was V, and that was, what, 30 years ago?Aerial Assault said:
That wasn't her problem at Maryland. Sure, it sort of became the official story. But her real issue at MD was butting heads with two successful, megalomaniac head coaches who happened to be fan and - more importantly - booster favorites. Gary Williams openly called her a b!tch to reporters and Fridge wasn't any better. She was caught in a no-win there, but some of her choices of battles to fight didn't help her. She was gonna lose every time against Williams & Friedgen (and Kevin Plank).Just Win Baby said:
i don't think the Big12 is weak. in fact, Sagarin has it rated #1.tdoss said:
Based on what is known so far, there is only smoke. Certainly, the smoke here makes me even happier he was fired. I don’t condone cheating, unlike some others.
Only smoke. Wow my man you have truly drank the kool aid. Gott and his crew were neck deep in this and NCSU will be lucky to pivot out from under it without getting dinged on some level. Whats more disturbing is that your beloved Yow has once again put her foot in her mouth and made things worse for us. For once in her gotdang life she just needs to ####. Be quiet and let this play out instead of running to the media showing the letter to the agent. And then less then 4 hours later yahoo drops the bomb that Gott was working with said agent. You couldnt write a script this good
Virginia is so interesting to me. We all know they slow it down and play crazy good D. But they don't just slow it down... out of the 351 teams rated on kenpom, Virginia is rated number 351 in adjusted tempo. They are the number one ranked team in the country and play the *slowest*. And there is a giant gap between them and the next slowest team.
I absolutely love their defensive mentality.
