**2017 Preseason Observations Thread** (1 Viewer)

[Alex P Keaton]

Is it too much to ask for a Devonta Freeman-esque emergence from the ashes for Smallwood? Probably, but that's what I'm hoping for. Blount may be an elite goal line back but outside of the redzone, the best he can do is heroically run into the back of the line for 2 yards. There will hopefully be an opportunity for someone else.

Is it too much for a mid-to-late round pick who is at best third on the depth chart to bust out a RB1 season?  It's probably really unlikely.....

 

[SameSongNDance]

Lacy is washed. 

 

[Zyphros]

Kasen Williams, 2 very nice catches to start out this game.  I never even heard the name before now.  

ETA:  Right when I post this he runs down Jerrick McKinnon on a kickoff for a tackle at the 10 yard line

 

[seahawk 17]

Williams looked good last game also, but this time he is doing it against starters.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Please stop showing Diggs. 

 

[avina1]

who is Kasen Williams and where did he come from.

Anyways, Seahawks have an interesting WR corps. Baldwin, Lockett, Richardson, Darboh, and now Williams. No one elite but plenty serviceable.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I remember reading how Cook would trip over his own feet like once a game in college. It looks like he's on a mission to raise that average.

His vision between the gaps is pretty meh right now too. 

I'm unimpressed to be honest.

 

[Sarlakticacid]

Williams looked good last game also, but this time he is doing it against starters.

Indeed great catch over Rhodes who had great position in coverage and then gets same play as Kearse the play before and executed it perfectly 

 

[Sarlakticacid]

I remember reading how Cook would trip over his own feet like once a game in college. It looks like he's on a mission to raise that average.

His vision between the gaps is pretty meh right now too. 

I'm unimpressed to be honest.

I'm seeing that too

 

[avina1]

I remember reading how Cook would trip over his own feet like once a game in college. It looks like he's on a mission to raise that average.

His vision between the gaps is pretty meh right now too. 

I'm unimpressed to be honest.

definitely missed a hole a couple plays back.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I dunno. Looks to me like the Vikings line is getting zero push and the running lanes are getting blown up.

Just like last year.

 

[Zyphros]

I remember reading how Cook would trip over his own feet like once a game in college. It looks like he's on a mission to raise that average.

His vision between the gaps is pretty meh right now too. 

I'm unimpressed to be honest.

Finally someone seeing what I'm seeing.  Been saying this months.  

 

[Zyphros]

Seahawks offense in general is looking pretty good.  If they can have any of these RB's hit (Lacy, Rawls, Prosise, Carson) they could be one of the more prolific offenses in the league.  Russell looks good and comfortable throwing to his guys, Baldwin getting open with ease right now.

 

[avina1]

Seahawks offense in general is looking pretty good.  If they can have any of these RB's hit (Lacy, Rawls, Prosise, Carson) they could be one of the more prolific offenses in the league.  Russell looks good and comfortable throwing to his guys, Baldwin getting open with ease right now.

only taking Prosise in PPR. Rawls runs so violently and if healthy for 16 games would be a steal, but I have no confidence in that.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

#2 safety is still the weak link in Vikings defense.

 

[Sarlakticacid]

Oline n cooks looking better now 

 

[Stealthycat]

7 carries for 40 yards 

1 catch for 10

I'll take that for a rookie in a preseason game

 

[PhantomJB]

Sorry, not in front of the TV...any thoughts on how Bradford looks? I'm wondering if he might be a decent QB2 along the lines of Eli, Dalton etc but much cheaper..

 

[Zyphros]

Sorry, not in front of the TV...any thoughts on how Bradford looks? I'm wondering if he might be a decent QB2 along the lines of Eli, Dalton etc but much cheaper..

He looks good enough if you're bullish on him.  The difference between him and the Eli's and Dalton's of the world is weapons and O-line.  You're getting a much safer/higher ceiling option with one of those others I'd think.  

 

[TripItUp]

More mediocrity from Cooks, latavius will definitely get his. 

 

[Andy Dufresne]

He looks good enough if you're bullish on him.  The difference between him and the Eli's and Dalton's of the world is weapons and O-line.  You're getting a much safer/higher ceiling option with one of those others I'd think.  

Agreed. He looks like he always has which means you either think he sucks or is serviceable. But the scheme caps his ceiling at around 3500/25 at best. I'd take Dalton and Eli ahead of him because of what Zyphros said - he just doesn't have a lot around him.

Diggs might catch 100 passes though.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Yup, the OL is giving him some room to run now and he's showing really good burst.

I like how he got tripped but was able to maintain balance here. 

He had another nice run where he broke through an arm tackle that I'm looking for. I believe this is it.

I probably spoke too soon but the OL still scares me.

 

[PhantomJB]

Agreed. He looks like he always has which means you either think he sucks or is serviceable. But the scheme caps his ceiling at around 3500/25 at best. I'd take Dalton and Eli ahead of him because of what Zyphros said - he just doesn't have a lot around him.

Diggs might catch 100 passes though.

Thanks, fellas. Great comments.

Bradford is just so cheap was keeping him on the radar in case some positional sleepers available Rds 10-11 like they often do. 

 

[Ray Barboni]

Cook looking good ...

 

[The General]

Wilson looks great. Hawks converted LT Fant who has worked his ### off and was just named starter looks like he just broke his leg. 

 

[The General]

Baldwin looked really great, had a minor injury earlier in camp. Draft with confidence.

 

[Ilov80s]

Cook looking good ...

If he gets the work, he is going to be a guy

 

[SameSongNDance]

Diggs might catch 100 passes though.

If he stays healthy he will. He's like Keenan Allen but he's going 2 rounds later. 

 

[Ilov80s]

Baldwin looked really great, had a minor injury earlier in camp. Draft with confidence.

He looked like he is ready for 1200 and 9

 

[Ilov80s]

If he stays healthy he will. He's like Keenan Allen but he's going 2 rounds later. 

Except Rivers >> Bradford and Diggs would get bodied by KA

 

[TripItUp]

If he stays healthy he will. He's like Keenan Allen but he's going 2 rounds later. 

Keenan isn't allergic to the end zone.

 

[The General]

He looked like he is ready for 1200 and 9

Works for me 

 

[Ilov80s]

Works for me 

Hell yeah, he has potential 

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Keenan isn't allergic to the end zone.

One of the few maladies he doesn't have.

I kid, I kid!

 

[The General]

Alex Collins is pretty much cut at this point. Wasn't going to get rostered fantasy wise but this Carson kid is on the team.

 

[Zyphros]

Mike Davis had a nice catch and run for a TD.  About 20 yards out or so.  

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I don't know which backfield is muddier - Seahawks or Patrlots.

 

[The General]

Mike Davis had a nice catch and run for a TD.  About 20 yards out or so.  

He's been talked about at camp but won't make the Hawks roster unless something crazy happens. Will be on a roster somewhere.

 

[Sarlakticacid]

Hello Mike Davis

 

[Zyphros]

I haven't seen Thielen being used at all today, was he involved last week at all?

 

[SameSongNDance]

Except Rivers >> Bradford and Diggs would get bodied by KA

I'm talking solely from the perspective of how they're utilized and how that will translate over to fantasy. They're both route technicians who run high percentage routes with similar catch rates, yards per reception and RZ work. I expect them to see similar volume this year too. 

Keenan isn't allergic to the end zone.

His conversion rate is better but he's utilized similarly, that is to say, not very much.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Elflein seems pretty good. 

Vikes offense is very vanilla again tonight. And not even New York vanilla.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't know which backfield is muddier - Seahawks or Patrlots.

I know which RB has the best ADP vs upside 

 

[The General]

I know which RB has the best ADP vs upside 

If they are still going really late then I'd go with the Lacy/Rawls combo pick.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I know which RB has the best ADP vs upside 

Sure but getting some semblance of consistent/predictable weekly production seems like an impossibility.

 

[JetMaxx]

Seattle is screwed without their LT

 

[Ray Barboni]

Seattle is screwed without their LT

Yea that really hurts ... such a shame - Russ looks great, and hungry after last year.

For an organization that drafts so well, it's really frustrating they won't go get the face of the franchise some damn protection 

 

[BigTex]

Yup, the OL is giving him some room to run now and he's showing really good burst.

I like how he got tripped but was able to maintain balance here. 

He had another nice run where he broke through an arm tackle that I'm looking for. I believe this is it.

I probably spoke too soon but the OL still scares me.

Thanks for sharing I can't see the game at this time.

Tex

 

[JetMaxx]

Yea that really hurts ... such a shame - Russ looks great, and hungry after last year.

For an organization that drafts so well, it's really frustrating they won't go get the face of the franchise some damn protection 

Seeming organizational arrogance. It's all fun and games on the sidelines, we draft great players in the 7th Rd nonsense on the broadcast, but the decision making process when it comes to the nuts and bolts of protecting the franchise QB has repeatedly failed.

 

[tjnc09]

I don't know which backfield is muddier - Seahawks or Patrlots.

If I drafted today, Burkhead (~13th ADP/Gillislee's hamstring) and Carson (not drafted/getting reps with 1st team) are the two I think have most value.