***2019 Kentucky Derby Thread & More*** (1 Viewer)

[Cowboysfan8]

Tough to not feel bad for the owners and trainer who've never won it. Such a tough beat.

I could puke for them seriously

 

[Keith R]

I'll ask those that know the sport better than me- was the dq the right call?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I'll ask those that know the sport better than me- was the dq the right call?

You're going to get some that say yes and some that say no. I've been a racing fan for 20 yrs.

Idk....

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Fans were booing winners circle.

 

[comfortably numb]

Can't wait to hear about the guy who had a winning ticket country house he threw out minutes after the race.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Don't think I ever saw a jock's objection changing the outcome at Hollywood Park. Stewards inquiry many times but not a jock's objection.

Nor at Garden State. Not once - and I went there weekly. This is absurd. 

 

[comfortably numb]

Fans were booing winners circle.

Assumed they were booing the gov of Kentucky?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I'll ask those that know the sport better than me- was the dq the right call?

Tbh....these decisions go like catches in the NFL sometimes. You just don't how what they're gonna do 

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I'll ask those that know the sport better than me- was the dq the right call?

nope, awful call.

Half think that they want controversy to get people into horse racing....

its a joke 

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Just like refs and umps, stewards gotta make themselves the story.

 

[Redwes25]

Anyone know which jockey filed the objection?

Tough call especially given weather but he did move across several lanes. 

 

[Nipsey]

Anyone know which jockey filed the objection?

Tough call especially given weather but he did move across several lanes. 

I thought the objection was from the 20.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I'll ask those that know the sport better than me- was the dq the right call?

I’m biased because I had $ on the 7 but in those conditions and that size field I would have let them play

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Anyone know which jockey filed the objection?

Tough call especially given weather but he did move across several lanes. 

the dude who won filed the objection

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Anyone know which jockey filed the objection?

Tough call especially given weather but he did move across several lanes. 

It was the rider of the 1.  That’s what makes it worse IMO

 

[Dan Lambskin]

the dude who won filed the objection

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

Assumed they were booing the gov of Kentucky?

Best post in this thread so far.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

It was the rider of the 1.  That’s what makes it worse IMO

the owner of #20 looked sick when they interviewed him.  Could tell he didn't want to win that way.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Can't wait to hear about the guy who had a winning ticket country house he threw out minutes after the race.

Might be a good day for a trash collector.

 

[Redwes25]

I’m biased because I had $ on the 7 but in those conditions and that size field I would have let them play

If that race is not the derby I think they make the  same dq call. Of course the derby is only race with 20 horses. Tough call and I sure as #### wouldn’t want to be steward there. 

 

[Redwes25]

It was the rider of the 1.  That’s what makes it worse IMO

If it was rider of 1 I have less of problem. If new winner objected that is a BS. That horse was barely impacted. 

 

[ILUVBEER99]

If that race is not the derby I think they make the  same dq call. Of course the derby is only race with 20 horses. Tough call and I sure as #### wouldn’t want to be steward there. 

naw.  they can go on the interview circuit now.  nobody cared about the Stewards until today.  This is their moment to shine.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I thought the objection was from the 20.

It was. I'd like to here from 1s jock

 

[Dan Lambskin]

It was. I'd like to here from 1s jock

 1 objected not 20 that’s why 7 was placed 8th instead of 2nd

 

[avoiding injuries]

nope, awful call.

Half think that they want controversy to get people into horse racing....

its a joke 

I think it’s going to do the opposite and drive people away. The Belmont, in all likelihood, just became irrelevant for this year. I was likely going to host a Preakness party, but am second guessing as of now. 

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I think it’s going to do the opposite and drive people away. The Belmont, in all likelihood, just became irrelevant for this year. I was likely going to host a Preakness party, but am second guessing as of now. 

It will make headlines but won’t attract any fringe fans.  Degenerates like me will complain but we’ll move on, so I doubt it moves the needle for viewership 

 

[Cowboysfan8]

 1 objected not 20 that’s why 7 was placed 8th instead of 2nd

Hmm, I was pretty sure flavien (20) objected but I been drinking all day so maybe not

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Hmm, I was pretty sure flavien (20) objected but I been drinking all day so maybe not

Chart shows winner dropped to 17th, behind the 18 horse.

https://www.churchilldowns.com/racing-wagering/toteboard

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Chart shows winner dropped to 17th, behind the 18 horse.

https://www.churchilldowns.com/racing-wagering/toteboard

Yeah they moved even further back 

@drfmcgee 

To clarify, the CD stewards DQd 1st-finisher Maximum Security to 17th (behind Long Range Toddy) for an incident near the 1/4-pole in which War of Will was lightly checked & Long Range Toddy was supposedly affected.

Official order: 20-13-8-5-16-15-1-9-14-10-3-6-21-2-17-18-7-19-4.

 

[JetMaxx]

I applaud the steward. Takes balls of steel to make that call on the highest stage. To make the right call. That was a reckless maneuver that not only enabled a victory but was inches from creating a tragedy  

 

[GroveDiesel]

ESPN says it was the eventual winning jockey that made the complaint.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

ESPN says it was the eventual winning jockey that made the complaint.

That doesn’t surprise me

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Should have been #18 that objected.  His horse was running in that five-wide melee in front and when #7 took his right hand turn #18 got pinched between the #1 and the #20.  Ended up dropping like 10 spots after he basically stopped his horse.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

ESPN says it was the eventual winning jockey that made the complaint.

That's what I thought

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Should have been #18 that objected.  His horse was running in that five-wide melee in front and when #7 took his right hand turn #18 got pinched between the #1 and the #20.  Ended up dropping like 10 spots after he basically stopped his horse.

True, and that's why he was placed behind the 18.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

i want to thank Dan Lambskin.  His tips on early races gave me a free roll..and then some on derby bets.  Lost my derby bets but still came out on top overall.  

GB you Mr Lamb.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

i want to thank Dan Lambskin.  His tips on early races gave me a free roll..and then some on derby bets.  Lost my derby bets but still came out on top overall.  

GB you Mr Lamb.

Glad somebody won today

i had a couple races nailed but was betting like a sissy so didn’t capitalize

 

[Dan Lambskin]

That's what I thought

I believe that is incorrect 

 

[tonydead]

Jesus xxxx, I read this and momentarily got the 7 confused with the 11 because of you know the convenience store and almost had a heart attack.  

 wish he would have scratched. $1500 of tickets that were worth 5 grand down the toilet with the disqualification. WTF.  

 

[tonydead]

I applaud the steward. Takes balls of steel to make that call on the highest stage. To make the right call. That was a reckless maneuver that not only enabled a victory but was inches from creating a tragedy  

BS!  I saw the blonde woman reviewing the tape and knew I was screwed.  You don’t make that call. That’s like calling pass interference on a hail marry. The # 7 would have won in any scenario not involving a BS call. 

 

[tonydead]

It will make headlines but won’t attract any fringe fans.  Degenerates like me will complain but we’ll move on, so I doubt it moves the needle for viewership 

Not so sure.  This is worse than boxing. That call cost millions to betters all going to the house.  

 

[JetMaxx]

BS!  I saw the blonde woman reviewing the tape and knew I was screwed.  You don’t make that call. That’s like calling pass interference on a hail marry. The # 7 would have won in any scenario not involving a BS call. 

Wrong. That’s like a review calling PI on the Rams in NFCC. 

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Not so sure.  This is worse than boxing. That call cost millions to betters all going to the house.  

I’m not sure you understand how parimutuel wagering works

 

[tonydead]

Wrong. That’s like a review calling PI on the Rams in NFCC. 

Unlike the Rams the #20 had no chance.  Let’s not use review to punish winners. 

 

[tonydead]

I’m not sure you understand how parimutuel wagering works

I know. It’s still BS. Lots of once (or 3 times) a year betters were on the favorite. How many were on #20?   ####ty result for the sport. 

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I know. It’s still BS. Lots of once (or 3 times) a year betters were on the favorite. How many were on #20?   ####ty result for the sport. 

I didn’t care for the result either, but the house won the same amount either way, or at least the legit outs did.  Mileage may have varieties for Offshore books. 

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I didn’t care for the result either, but the house won the same amount either way, or at least the legit outs did.  Mileage may have varieties for Offshore books. 

offshore books had to make a killing on the DQ.

 

[tonydead]

offshore books had to make a killing on the DQ.

Everyone taking futures right?  

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Everyone taking futures right?  

yup.  pretty much.  tons of people probably had big futures bets on MAX.   country not so much, or if they did tiny ones

 

[tonydead]

Sorry. I’m just pissed. Went from taking selfies with my tickets to disbelief in 20 minutes. I think I’m still in shock.