2019 NFL Combine News (1 Viewer)

[Gandalf]

Lil’Jordan Humphrey 4.79

Nope. As in not drafting

 

[menobrown]

Jazz Ferguson 4.50

So far he is the #1 guy that today is making me need to go study. Well today and his measurements. Just improved to unofficial 4.46, and he is freaking huge, at 6'5" with 34'1/4" arms he might only trail Butler in size/length.

 

[Bojang0301]

Jj a-w not running?

Nope

 

[Bojang0301]

So far he is the #1 guy that today is making me need to go study. Well today and his measurements. Just improved to unofficial 4.46, and he is freaking huge, at 6'5" with 34'1/4" arms he might only trail Butler in size/length.

Ashton Dulin

 

[Bojang0301]

Harry 4.54 second run

The one draft I hold 1.05 I feel extremely uncomfortable. No way do I really want a piece of this RB class early.

 

[Denver724]

Harry 4.54 second run

The one draft I hold 1.05 I feel extremely uncomfortable. No way do I really want a piece of this RB class early.

I think Harry is the 1.01 or 1.02 depending on what Metcalf does today. Of course, RB destinations could change this and push one of them up into the top 2. 

But if Harry goes to the Ravens all bets are off. Still a lot of info needs to be gleaned before our rookie drafts. 

 

[Bojang0301]

I think Harry is the 1.01 or 1.02 depending on what Metcalf does today. Of course, RB destinations could change this and push one of them up into the top 2. 

But if Harry goes to the Ravens all bets are off. Still a lot of info needs to be gleaned before our rookie drafts. 

Right now I’d have Butler, Harry, AJ Brown, Fant and possibly Metcalf before I’d think RB. I would even consider Murray early this year considering he is going to be a hell of dual threat.

 

[Denver724]

Right now I’d have Butler, Harry, AJ Brown, Fant and possibly Metcalf before I’d think RB. I would even consider Murray early this year considering he is going to be a hell of dual threat.

Even WR rankings are all over the board. Some even have Harmon as their #1 because of his tape. Destinations will push a couple of these guys above the others. 

 

[Bojang0301]

I suppose Rodney Anderson could change that and whether or not KC drafts anyone in rounds 1-3 but this is a WR class that will be hard to pass on.

 

[Bojang0301]

DK Metcalf 40.5” vert

 

[hammerva]

Will Grier's performance today was rather EH 

 

[travdogg]

Did Isabella sit out? Haven't seen a thing on him. 

 

[Ilov80s]

4.42? I guess Ashton Dulin is a real thing 

 

[Bojang0301]

Did Isabella sit out? Haven't seen a thing on him. 

Thought there was a 2nd group of WR’s seems like a lot haven’t done anything yet including Metcalf, JJAW and Isabella.

 

[menobrown]

Thought there was a 2nd group of WR’s seems like a lot haven’t done anything yet including Metcalf, JJAW and Isabella.

Yes,  there is a second group but not sure if JJAW is in it,  I thought he did his verticals with first group so not sure on him.

Good TV. Metcalf and Isabella are two of the more intriguing 40 times, making us wait for it.

 

[travdogg]

Thought there was a 2nd group of WR’s seems like a lot haven’t done anything yet including Metcalf, JJAW and Isabella.

Oh good. Those are 3 of my top 4 WR's, so I'm expecting big things. There was talk Isabella might run under 4.3.

 

[Bojang0301]

Yes,  there is a second group but not sure if JJAW is in it,  I thought he did his verticals with first group so not sure on him.

Good TV. Metcalf and Isabella are two of the more intriguing 40 times, making us wait for it.

Nah, that was a false report about JJAW

 

[voiceofunreason]

Anybody find a good summary of the results? Nfl.com is terrible for me.

 

[Bojang0301]

RIP Andy Isabella 4.56

Metcalf 4.33

McLaurin 4.36

 

[skinfanjon]

RIP Andy Isabella 4.56

Metcalf 4.33

McLaurin 4.36

 

[kittenmittens]

Omfg Metcalf... Drool

 

[travdogg]

RIP Andy Isabella 4.56

Metcalf 4.33

McLaurin 4.36

4.46 on Isabella's 2nd run. Still was expecting faster, but he's still a top-5 WR on my board. 

Metcalf is looking like Julio Jones out there. Starting to think he's got a shot at flying up boards, like maybe as high as Jets at #3.

 

[Bojang0301]

4.46 on Isabella's 2nd run. Still was expecting faster, but he's still a top-5 WR on my board. 

Metcalf is looking like Julio Jones out there. Starting to think he's got a shot at flying up boards, like maybe as high as Jets at #3.

Ya, Isabella is back from the dead for me after the second run. Metcalf may end up 1.01 despite his lack of production. Tough to ignore the athleticism.

 

[travdogg]

Ya, Isabella is back from the dead for me after the second run. Metcalf may end up 1.01 despite his lack of production. Tough to ignore the athleticism.

Metcalf was my 1.1 going into the combine, he's probably a tier of his own now.

 

[kittenmittens]

Any reports on Metcalfs route drills?  Not sure if they have done that yet...

Everyone expected him to be an athletic beast.  I hope he looks fluid and flexible as well. 

 

[Denver724]

Any reports on Metcalfs route drills?  Not sure if they have done that yet...

Everyone expected him to be an athletic beast.  I hope he looks fluid and flexible as well. 

Thinking the same thing. Could be really stiff and #### the bed in the 3-cone and short shuttle. 

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

From twitter:

Fear not: there was a laser issue during UMass WR Andy Isabella 40-yard run. His official time, as is listed in the system NFL teams work off of, was 4.27, per source. Hand timings were from 4.27-low 4.3’s.

 

[Zyphros]

Any reports on Metcalfs route drills?  Not sure if they have done that yet...

Everyone expected him to be an athletic beast.  I hope he looks fluid and flexible as well. 

Hopefully I find some time to rewatch the WRs since I missed them live but I want to do a full summary of some of my thoughts when I do that.  

 

[IHEARTFF]

From twitter:

Fear not: there was a laser issue during UMass WR Andy Isabella 40-yard run. His official time, as is listed in the system NFL teams work off of, was 4.27, per source. Hand timings were from 4.27-low 4.3’s.

Ho lee fook

 

[menobrown]

Some stats I was just reading:

7 receivers ran under 4.4 this combine and that's as many as the last 3 combines combine.

Average speed was 4.496 for WR's, first time the average came in under 4.5.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Fear not: there was a laser issue during UMass WR Andy Isabella 40-yard run. His official time, as is listed in the system NFL teams work off of, was 4.27, per source. Hand timings were from 4.27-low 4.3’s.

Wait, what? So the laser timer was off twice for him and not for anyone else?

There’s no way he ran a 4.27 and then a 4.46.

 

[beef]

The rest of Hockerson's combine was awesome.  I wouldn't be downgrading this guy because of his 40.  

 

[fruity pebbles]

As bad as the RBs messed the bed yesterday, the WRs and TEs generally showed really well

 

[John Paul]

Isabella's official is 4.31...

 

[Bojang0301]

Wait, what? So the laser timer was off twice for him and not for anyone else?

There’s no way he ran a 4.27 and then a 4.46.

I don’t think that’s how that works and they take the lower of the two times. Jim Nagy was saying the only reason they don’t do MPH at the combine is because most schools don’t have the technology due to it being expensive so the 40 is still the only way to get consistent readings. Hopefully we get there in the next decade to stop this nonsense. 

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Could easily see 5-7 players picked before a RB is off the board in FF rookie drafts.  Weird year.

 

[kittenmittens]

Wait, what? So the laser timer was off twice for him and not for anyone else?

There’s no way he ran a 4.27 and then a 4.46.

Yes there is, this happens all the time.  Usually it's about a tenth of a second difference, this is twice that but still isn't crazy. 

If his official is 4.31 the first one was probably 4.35 with the laser problem. 

 

[kittenmittens]

I don’t think that’s how that works and they take the lower of the two times. Jim Nagy was saying the only reason they don’t do MPH at the combine is because most schools don’t have the technology due to it being expensive so the 40 is still the only way to get consistent readings. Hopefully we get there in the next decade to stop this nonsense. 

I believe most sites including NFL.com either do an average of the 2, some other formula, or show both. 

 

[Bronco Billy]

Could easily see 5-7 players picked before a RB is off the board in FF rookie drafts.  Weird year.

Very similar to last year, just with RBs and WRs reversing perceptions.  I’m guessing it’s probably going to end up with similar outcomes.

 

[Gandalf]

Metcalf broke the combine for WRs. I felt the same way about Barkley for RBs last year.

 

[kittenmittens]

Metcalf broke the combine for WRs. I felt the same way about Barkley for RBs last year.

It might be the best combine performance since Calvin Johnson.  Johnson had the proven elite complete WR skills and production to go with it... But Johnson didn't have a guy like Brown on his team either. 

Johnson only ran the 40 but I would expect his other numbers to be elite as well. 

 

[ShamrockPride]

4.46 on Isabella's 2nd run. Still was expecting faster, but he's still a top-5 WR on my board. 

Metcalf is looking like Julio Jones out there. Starting to think he's got a shot at flying up boards, like maybe as high as Jets at #3.

Oh please for the love of God as a Darnold dyno owner

 

[travdogg]

Could easily see 5-7 players picked before a RB is off the board in FF rookie drafts.  Weird year.

I don't know if I'd go that far. I could see a couple WR's go ahead of a RB, but when the RB's get good landing spots, it'll be tough to pass. I'd put the over/under on WR's going ahead of the top RB at 2. Metcalf and TBD.

 

[Denver724]

DK's 3C and SS times were less than stellar. Not sure how much it matters. 

 

[ffmail4me]

DK's 3C and SS times were less than stellar. Not sure how much it matters. 

Were they considered average or below average? what were they? 

 

[kittenmittens]

Were they considered average or below average? what were they? 

7.38 and 4.5.  Well below average....

That's not real good for him. 

 

[menobrown]

DK's 3C and SS times were less than stellar. Not sure how much it matters. 

Well that stuff kind of tested the stuff I was mainly concerned about so.....

Were they considered average or below average? what were they? 

Bottom 2-3 I think of all WR's who particpated in both.

 

[kittenmittens]

Well that stuff kind of tested the stuff I was mainly concerned about so.....

Bottom 2-3 I think of all WR's who particpated in both.

Yeah the combine is more about finding red flags than about confirmation of what we see on the field. 

 

[Denver724]

Yeah the combine is more about finding red flags than about confirmation of what we see on the field. 

And to be honest what DK has done on the field while at Ole' Miss really isn't that impressive. From a volume standpoint anyway. We will see. 

 

[Ilov80s]

Metcalf broke the combine for WRs. I felt the same way about Barkley for RBs last year.

He bombed a couple drills though too. Calvin still holds the crown for best ever combine as a WR.