2021 Houston Texans - (1 Viewer)

[dhockster]

Looking at the last 3 drafts, it is amazing that the Patriots with Tom Brady as their QB have spent a 2nd round pick on Garrapolo in 2014 and a 3rd rounder on Brissett in 2016. The Texans, with an obvious need at QB all 3 years, have spent a supplemental 4th rounder in 2014 on Savage. That's it. That's why the Patriots are where they are, and the Texans are where they are.

In addition, last year the Texans took Tyler Ervin in the 4th round as a change of pace 3rd down back and returner. When they already had signed Lamar Miller as their starting RB. They could have had Dak Prescott.

Rick Smith really needs to be fired. Spending very little draft resources on the game's most important position, especially when you don't have a good or proven player at that position makes very little sense.

Now the Texans are almost forced to use draft resources in a bad QB year when they don't have a high pick. They could end up shut out of who they want.

 

[dhockster]

If I was a fan of this team, while I do not think Cutler is necessarily the answer, I'd be perfectly willing to take a chance on him. The Texans have a top notch defense and very good skill position players on offense. New England is clearly the class of the AFC right now, but other than them the rest of the conference is pretty weak. The second best team is probably the Steelers and their defense is still young and Ben and Bell have their injury histories. If Brady goes down or slows down, the path to the Super Bowl is without many road blocks for the Texans.

If O'Brien can somehow pound it in Cutler's head to play more of a game manager role as far as protecting the football - and that his arm does not need to carry this team, I think the Texans could be the No. 2 seed and would just need to find a way to move past the Pats. They can still draft their future QB and see if Cutler can turn his career back around in a new setting. I'm by no means a Cutler fan, and I'm not convinced he can dial back his gunslinger style, but the potential reward outweighs the risk (since I don't think they can win with Savage or a rookie anyway).

This I don't see happening which is why I am not keen on going after Cutler. I think Cutler is what he is at this point in his career. Also, O'Brien's offense is very complicated and I don't see Cutler as a real film junkie who is going to be putting in long hours to master the system. That's just the perception of him I get, but I could be wrong.

 

[Interseptopus]

This I don't see happening which is why I am not keen on going after Cutler. I think Cutler is what he is at this point in his career. Also, O'Brien's offense is very complicated and I don't see Cutler as a real film junkie who is going to be putting in long hours to master the system. That's just the perception of him I get, but I could be wrong.

I think this is why Kaepernick isn't pursued by them. 

Cutler has that apathetic look to him, so I can see where you'd get that from him. I wonder what being on a winning team would do for his competitiveness. Can't teach an old dog new tricks, but maybe you can squeeze some of the old tricks out of Cutler. 

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

I think signing Matt McGloin would make some sense. Probably not going to wow anyone, but he has had success in limited NFL action thus far. And he excelled at PSU once O'Brien took over as head coach.  Could be a decent low-cost addition with no draft pick cost like McCarron or Jimmy G, and at least some potential to blossom.

 

[Buckna]

Looking at the last 3 drafts, it is amazing that the Patriots with Tom Brady as their QB have spent a 2nd round pick on Garrapolo in 2014 and a 3rd rounder on Brissett in 2016. The Texans, with an obvious need at QB all 3 years, have spent a supplemental 4th rounder in 2014 on Savage. That's it. That's why the Patriots are where they are, and the Texans are where they are.

In addition, last year the Texans took Tyler Ervin in the 4th round as a change of pace 3rd down back and returner. When they already had signed Lamar Miller as their starting RB. They could have had Dak Prescott.

Rick Smith really needs to be fired. Spending very little draft resources on the game's most important position, especially when you don't have a good or proven player at that position makes very little sense.

Now the Texans are almost forced to use draft resources in a bad QB year when they don't have a high pick. They could end up shut out of who they want.

That 2014 draft in particular was quite the head scratcher at the time (they called it building a foundation I think?) and a disaster looking back. Clowney finally looks himself after being injured the 1st two years but it's only been 1 good season while Mack has gone to multiple pro-bowls. Waste of space Sua'Filo when they could have had Carr (yeah unlikely we would have taken him with the brother connection) or traded up 1 spot for Bridgewater. Nix in the 3rd who never played a down and Fiedorowicz who can't beat out Ryan Griffin or some other poor TE's.

At least we got Savage that year, right? Kind of odd, when Kubiak was here they took a developmental QB nearly every year, now they never do it.

 

[Interseptopus]

I think signing Matt McGloin would make some sense. Probably not going to wow anyone, but he has had success in limited NFL action thus far. And he excelled at PSU once O'Brien took over as head coach.  Could be a decent low-cost addition with no draft pick cost like McCarron or Jimmy G, and at least some potential to blossom.

Never thought of this. Almost makes too much sense

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Never thought of this. Almost makes too much sense

I'm not really sure he's any better of an option than Savage or Weeden though.

He's played in 13 NFL games (7 starts) and hasn't been all that impressive 6.7 y/a; 58% completions; 1,868 yards; 11 TDs; 11 INTs; 75.3 QB rating

 

[Interseptopus]

I'm not really sure he's any better of an option than Savage or Weeden though.

He's played in 13 NFL games (7 starts) and hasn't been all that impressive 6.7 y/a; 58% completions; 1,868 yards; 11 TDs; 11 INTs; 75.3 QB rating

Weeden I think is a lost cause. Savage isn't terribe

 

[FF Ninja]

If I was a fan of this team, while I do not think Cutler is necessarily the answer, I'd be perfectly willing to take a chance on him. The Texans have a top notch defense and very good skill position players on offense. New England is clearly the class of the AFC right now, but other than them the rest of the conference is pretty weak. The second best team is probably the Steelers and their defense is still young and Ben and Bell have their injury histories. If Brady goes down or slows down, the path to the Super Bowl is without many road blocks for the Texans.

If O'Brien can somehow pound it in Cutler's head to play more of a game manager role as far as protecting the football - and that his arm does not need to carry this team, I think the Texans could be the No. 2 seed and would just need to find a way to move past the Pats. They can still draft their future QB and see if Cutler can turn his career back around in a new setting. I'm by no means a Cutler fan, and I'm not convinced he can dial back his gunslinger style, but the potential reward outweighs the risk (since I don't think they can win with Savage or a rookie anyway).

I am a fan of the team and I had my heart set on Romo, but at this point I'd settle for Cutler. O'Brien might need to show some flexibility by tailoring his system around Cutler and/or simplifying it a bit, but there aren't a lot of options left. 

I agree with dhockster that Savage could feasibly be worse than Brock. Would be hard, but it's possible.

I wouldn't be opposed tot he McGloin idea, either.

If we didn't play in such a weak division, O'Brien's tenure would be full of 7-9 seasons. I'm not saying he's 100% to blame, but getting to the playoffs twice was pure luck of the draw.

I have no idea how Rick Smith still has a job.

 

[Saboo]

With Romo the Texans were a legit threat to the Patriots for the AFC Championship...Without him they are just another team that will go into Foxborough and essentially be the Washington Generals to the Patriot’s Harlem Globetrotters...Guys like Cutler and Kapernick just aren’t good enough to beat New England.

If I were Houston, I would have gone much harder after Romo. The guy is a arguably a top ten qb when healthy. I would still be going after him if I were the Texans.

 

[Denver724]

I can see Houston making a run at AJ. Just don't see many other options that won't be a 2-3 year project. It's a real mess and doesn't do guys like Hopkins any favors. 

 

[babydemon90]

Surprised they didn't bring in Chase Daniel for a look.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

Chargers are going nowhere this season. (Except LA)  And they've publicly spoken about investing a high pick in a QB.  What would it take to pry Rivers loose?

 

[BoltBacker]

Chargers are going nowhere this season. (Except LA)  And they've publicly spoken about investing a high pick in a QB.  What would it take to pry Rivers loose?

Based on the Okung contract they signed I would sign Clady and trade him to the chargers for Rivers. It seems to me telesco is DESPERATE for OLmen that were pretty good 4-7 years ago. Oh, and you can probably get him to throw in a middle round pick as well as part of the deal. Draft picks aren't really worth much when you build a powerhouse like telesco has built.

 

[Jayded]

I know the team needs OL help and CB help in the draft, but I'm wondering if we need to go after QB like Washington did a few years ago in drafting two and hoping at least one of them pans out. While we won't have a top 2 pick like they did with RGIII, I wouldn't hate going into the season having Trubisky/Watson/Kizer/Mahomes in round 1 and Peterman/Kayaa/Russell in round 4-5 so that even if one doesn't pan out the hope is the other makes enough strides to put the position in a stable place.

 

[Buckna]

It's a weak year for O'line so my guess would be they will be prioritizing someone later, they have interviewed/worked out a couple of OT's that are projected as late picks: Brad Seaton with Villanova, Julie'N Davenport at Bucknell, and Avery Gennesey with A&M have all been reported to have met with the Texans and they are all projected as late round guys. So I think we will definitely see at least one OT late, maybe in addition to someone they take earlier.

It's a deep DB draft and we still have Joseph, Jackson and Johnson, so that is another position where I would guess they are hoping to snag a gem later.

My guess is that it is QB or bust. If they trade up probably comes down to how many QB's go early. I think it's unlikely that some of the projected teams will actually take one for the future (Giants and Saints for example) except for maybe Arizona so there may not be a need to trade up. But then again there are teams behind them that might jump in front of them.

 

[Jayded]

Since the Texans are clearly a team considering a QB, one of the least forgiving stats between college and the pros has proven to be accuracy. Players may get better at other aspects of their game, like moving from a simple offense to pro style or adapting to defensive reads quicker. The one thing that rarely gets better is completion percentage and accuracy; it's there or it's not.

Here's the order of the top 13 ranked QBs' 2016-2017 accuracy:

Trubisky - 69%

Watson - 68%

Mahomes - 66%

Evans - 64%

Dobbs - 63%

Kelly - 63%

Webb - 62%

Kaaya - 62%

Peterman - 61%

Kizer - 59%

Beathard - 57%

Russell - 55%

Knight - 53%

 

[dhockster]

As this offseason progresses, I am getting more and more frustrated with Bill O'Brien as a coach. The reason being that he runs supposedly a very complicated system which limits the pool of QB's who can run his offense effectively. Cutler and Kaepernick, who might otherwise be acceptable stopgap QB's on another team, really aren't a fit for the type of offense O'Brien runs. I am assuming (possibly incorrectly) that Bill O'Brien is unable or unwilling to adapt his offense to better fit the talents of his quarterback. I assume this based on the fact that he has benched his starting QB 3 times over the last 3 seasons (Fitzpatrick, Hoyer, and Osweiller) indicating he would rather replace the QB than simplify or change the offense in any way to help out the existing starter.

The Texans success over the last 3 years (3 winning seasons, 2 playoff appearances, 1 playoff win) has been because of a very good defense, playing in a very weak division, and playing a team in the playoffs who was playing with a very subpar back-up QB. The offense, which O'Brien is responsible for, has had no, or even a negative impact, on the teams performance.

If Tom Brady is the only round peg QB that fits into O'Brien's round hole offense, and every other QB is a square peg QB, O'Brien is probably never going to have success because Tom Brady is one of a kind. I really hope O'Brien learns from his past and begins to adapt his offense to the players available.

 

[dhockster]

I shudder to say this, but is the best option to add a veteran QB for this year actually Ryan Fitzpatrick since he has at least played in the system and knows it? At least he is a Harvard graduate so he should be able to understand the many complexities of the offense. Like I said, I shudder at the thought.

 

[GregR]

I just don't feel like there's a vet option now that is going to make a difference.  I'd just about fine with getting whoever you think would be best for your drafted QB to learn behind.

I think Cutler probably wins the most games if you're going to pin me down on it. Not sure he's the best guy to learn behind though. Not exactly a bastion of defense reading and knowing where to go with the football which is more what O'brien's offense is looking for. So Fitz might be better there, but don't know I think he'd do better than Cutler in the win total.

 

[GregR]

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[GregR]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000800199/article/texans-pick-up-jadeveon-clowneys-fifthyear-option




Texans pick up Jadeveon Clowney's fifth-year option

On Wednesday, the Rams exercised Aaron Donald's fifth-year option. On Friday, the Texans followed suit with their own Pro Bowl defensive lineman.

Houston picked up the fifth-year option on Jadeveon Clowney's rookie deal on Friday, NFL Network's James Palmer reported. The pass rusher was selected first overall in the 2014 draft and was heading into the final season of a four-year deal with the Texans.

NFL teams have until May 3 to exercise the fifth-year options on 2014 first-round draft picks.

Extending Clowney through the 2018 season was a no-brainer for the Texans, who reaped the benefits of the fully healthy disrupter in 2016. (It should be noted that Clowney did undergo minor left knee surgery after the season, but is said to be "fine.")

After slumping through two injury-marred seasons, Clowney broke out last year, starting in 14 games and recording six sacks and 55 tackles. His dominant wild-card performance against the Raiders, in which he broke up multiple plays in the backfield and recorded an interception in Oakland territory, earned him legitimate comparisons to Texans teammate and injured pass rusher J.J. Watt.

With Whitney Mercilus still at the peak of his powers, Watt returning and Clowney in town for the next two years, Houston has a defense ready for January and beyond and could contend with Denver for the best unit in the AFC.

Now if only Rick Smith and Co. could manage the albatross at their quarterback position, then the Texans would surely contend with the Patriots for a conference crown.

 

[BoltBacker]

I just don't feel like there's a vet option now that is going to make a difference.  I'd just about fine with getting whoever you think would be best for your drafted QB to learn behind.

I think Cutler probably wins the most games if you're going to pin me down on it. Not sure he's the best guy to learn behind though. Not exactly a bastion of defense reading and knowing where to go with the football which is more what O'brien's offense is looking for. So Fitz might be better there, but don't know I think he'd do better than Cutler in the win total.

I think the real problem with both those guys is they can throw you out of a game with costly mistakes, and they have proven that tendency year after year after year. It's fun watching Fitz and I like to root for him but some of those decisions are baffling for such a smart guy.

Play spin-the-bottle with two picks in the draft? One in the middle on Webb/Peterman/Kaaya and one late on Dobbs/Evans? Pray that one of them is your Prescott but just hope that one can beat out Savage in any case? Or just go for broke and get Mahomes early and Kelly late. They could both be complete busts and you end up with Savage as your starter.... but that's where you are now anyway. If you are going to end up throwing INT's it may as well be a rookie that could develop into something instead of a vet that is on his last legs and has proven he will never overcome the tendency.

But if you are investing multiple draft picks I'm not convinced any of those guys are better than Hundley and he could be acquired for draft picks in a draft full of CB. If the Jets take ANOTHER QB(which is entirely possible) you can probably get Hackenberg cheap. Are the QB's in this draft a lot better than Conner Cook coming out of college? I liked Cardale Jones coming out of college and if Whaley really is out of the loop in the BUF decisions then Jones is probably available for pennies on the dollar. Hundley(and maybe Hackenberg) would probably cost you but those other guys might only cost you conditional compensation.

All these young guys are obviously very risky with a high bust potential, but isn't standing pat with what you have just as risky with just as high a bust potential? Seems to me in the whole Romo soap opera HOU had the most to lose. And they did. I hope keeping that conditional day-three future draft pick was worth it to HOU. And I'm not even a Romo fan.

 

[Buckna]

Andre Johnson to Retire a Texan

The greatest player in Houston Texans history is finally coming home. Wide receiver Andre Johnson will sign a one-day contract and officially retire as a member of the Houston Texans, per numerous sources.

Johnson, 35, was the number three overall pick of the 2003 NFL draft after starring for the Miami Hurricanes. In 12 seasons for the Houston Texans, Johnson would set nearly every significant receiving record for the franchise, including receptions (1,012), receiving yards (13,597), and receiving touchdowns (64.)

After 12 tremendous seasons in Houston, Johnson would end his career playing for the Indianapolis Colts in 2015, and Tennessee Titans in 2016. For his career, Johnson’s 1,062 receptions ranks 11th in NFL history, and his 14,185 receiving yards is good enough for 10th all-time.

As easily the best offensive player in the Houston Texans’ 15-year history, this week’s press conference and ceremony will be a fitting conclusion to Johnson’s brilliant, Hall-of-Fame worthy career.

 

[GregR]

So I guess at this point, my ideal draft in the 1st would be Texans stand pat at 25 and still get either Trubisky or Mahomes.

I sincerely doubt Trubisky is there though. And I think there's a fair chance Mahomes may not be either.  Though I think there's probably only 3-4 Qbs who go in the first, and that many only because someone may trade into the last pick or two in order to get that 5th year option.

 

[Buckna]

Same, I had a hankerin' for Mahomes but with all the buzz on him the last few weeks I feel like he's going to be gone by 25. Feel like its going to be either a DB or a RT with the 25 and/or with us trading up from our 2nd for a QB. Also think there is a good chance that if one of the QB's is still on the board just before us that KC would trade in front of us. None of the teams from 18 to 24 have a need for a QB (except maybe the Giants but I doubt they spend their 1st for one) and we obviously do, so any of those teams could trade down with someone looking to leapfrog us.

Interestingly, if you look at the draft pick value charts out there on the internet (who knows how accurate they are), our 1st, 2nd and 4th are very close to equal to the Browns 12th pick. Probably not a snowball's chance Rick Smith trades up that far, but in that scenario you can still take a RT in the 3rd, a DB in the 4th and then some depth linemen & RB's late and a ton of good UDFA. Our 1st and 3rd would get you into about the pick 19 or 20 range if wanting to trade up.

 

[GregR]

An interesting name is Nathan Peterman, the QB from Pitt.  Not a big arm, but there's a few people who think he could turn out being a good project, like a Kirk Cousins.  Lance Zierlein sees him that way.  He might be a guy that could still be there at our 2nd round pick, though I'm seeing more about him being underrated.

 

[BoltBacker]

 Feel like its going to be either Webb or a RT with the 25 and/or with us trading up from our 2nd for a QB.

Whoa...... has there been any discussion of HOU considering taking Webb that early? If HOU thinks that is their best option they have painted themselves into a much worse corner than I could have imagined. Isn't he expected to have a similar(or longer) learning curve that Goff had? Seems like an awful fit for a team that feels like they have everything but a QB to compete right now. They would be WAY better off just signing Cutler/Fitz and drafting Dobbs/Evans/Kelly late if they are even considering drafting Webb at pick #25.

Just checked, I guess this is a Prisco-pick? Seems dubious and his explanation for the pick sounds like he's just throwing a dart in the dark.

 

[GregR]

Yeah, I don't know who the Texans prefer, but Webb just seems kind of far out there.  When people are saying Trubisky, etc, are not as good of prospects as Bridgewater or Carr, and Webb is quite a ways back, I just don't see it.

 

[Buckna]

No, brain fart on my part, meant to write Webb in the 2nd after an OT in the first. I like Peterman too in the 2nd.

I think they would jump on and possibly even move up for one of either Watson or Mahomes if one is still there after pick 18. Both were in Houston earlier this week for workouts. Houston met previously with Mahomes back at the Combine too.

 

[GregR]

Unless I missed some flipping through the schedule... the Texans do not face anyone coming off of a bye.  The Chiefs have MNF the week before they play us, so a slightly short week.  Arizona has TNF before us so gets the extra long week.  We get an extra long week from TNF before the Patriots.

4 primetime games.  Week 2 TNF at Bengals.  Week 5 SNF home against the Chiefs.  MNF after Thanksgiving Week 12 at Baltimore.  Christmas Day week 16 home against Steelers.

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[Buckna]

So other Texans fans... placing bets on who it is? My guess is one of Watson or Mahomes. Hopefully we don't give up much if we do trade up. Outside of that, hoping for a RT and DB or LB'er in the 2nd/3rd.

 

[GregR]

I'm not sure which QB they want, but if Trubisky or Mahomes makes it to them I hope they take him.  If Watson is there... I'm on the fence. If that doesn't happen, then take the best tackle or someone who they think should have gone a lot earlier but slid.

I really don't want them trading up when so many people think there may not even be a 1st round worthy QB.  Someone could still end up being a top level QB (see Rodgers, Aaron) taken this late, just I don't think you give up extra assets to move up. Especially when I think most everyone who moves up overpays.  Chase's NFL trade value chart has the 1.25 and 3.25 worth the 1.10.  No way anyone actually moves up that far with those picks, which says people are undervaluing picks still, assuming Chase's method is good.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

Well we got a QB.... I'm willing to give Watson a shot after all the years of passing over guys. Hopefully he's finally the answer even though next year's first two rounds will be boring...

 

[bigmarc27]

Well we got a QB.... I'm willing to give Watson a shot after all the years of passing over guys. Hopefully he's finally the answer even though next year's first two rounds will be boring...

Watson is amazing. You've got yourself a Mariota / Vince Young but not a head case at QB. 

 

[Jayded]

I'm honestly thrilled. At least management is trying. Yes we could have waited for next year's class but who says we'd get anyone in the 20's next year. The team needed a guy on offense with innate leadership skills and that is Watson. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but tonight I'm happy and looking forward to seeing him in action when ready. 

 

[Houston turmOiler]

I'm honestly thrilled. At least management is trying. Yes we could have waited for next year's class but who says we'd get anyone in the 20's next year. The team needed a guy on offense with innate leadership skills and that is Watson. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but tonight I'm happy and looking forward to seeing him in action when ready. 

Agreed. Happy to have hope for once 

 

[Buckna]

Obviously would have preferred not to give up the first next year, but once KC traded up there was no way Watson was falling to 25. And just as I thought, KC jumped up, just didnt expect them to go that far.

I'm glad they made a move and didn't have to give up more than 1 more pick though (anyone else notice KC paid a 3rd on top of their 1st to do basically the same trade?) Still some good talent to be had in the 2nd and 3rd. Not real concerned with the Titans or Jags picks, they were basically chalk and expected. Kind of glad the Titans were forced to go WR at 5 and get a lesser defensive player later.

 

[FF Ninja]

This is such bush league bull****. I can't stand Rick Smith. You don't build a team by trading away draft picks. People forget that the only way to survive in the NFL is to hit on your draft picks because those are the only affordable contracts. So not only do we rarely hit on our draft picks, but now we don't have any of the highest percentage draft picks next year. We are mortgaging the future to roll the dice. The Texans are now like the degenerate gamblers of the NFL. If we don't hit on Watson, we're up **** creek... The only way to save the franchise would be to somehow get lucky like the Saints when they found Drew Brees (and even that was a huge roll of the dice after that injury). If the blind squirrel that is the Saints can find a nut, I guess Rick Smith feasibly could, too, if we foolishly keep employing him. Statistically, it's bound to happen, right?

Maybe Rick gets lucky and Watson pays off, but sometimes the ball hog, turnover prone shooting guard banks in a 3 pointer to win the game. Doesn't make it a good decision. 

Rick has botched offseasons pretty badly, but to me this is the worst one yet. We blow a 2nd rounder to clear cap space (from Rick's botched contract last year) for Romo and then fail to get Romo so we freak out and trade TWO first round picks for a poor man's Jameis Winston. I really, really hope he pans out. I also really hope we don't overpay Hopkins with the cap money we bought with that 2nd round pick. He's a good, not great WR. Don't be fooled by those garbage time stats from 2015. If he gets a top 5 WR salary... 

 

[Buckna]

Love the Cunnigham pick. Guy is a playmaker with a nose for the football. Did we just draft Cushings  eventual replacement?

 

[GregR]

Definitely needed a LB with some cover skills.  Probably, re: Cushing's replacement.

 

[Buckna]

Like Foreman a lot as a player and thought there was a chance we took him as I read an article on his workout day with us. Just don't know if a backup RB was the best use of our 3rd round pick.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

Like Foreman a lot as a player and thought there was a chance we took him as I read an article on his workout day with us. Just don't know if a backup RB was the best use of our 3rd round pick.

Well at least Foreman is a better pick than Tyler Ervin last year

 

[GregR]

I felt the same about Foreman. Let Miller carry the load for now and use the 3rd somewhere that'll make more of an impact.  With the first 2 picks gone next year, not really a time to be taking luxury picks. Have to feel like he was a total steal to take him there.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

I actually like the Foreman pick. Miller was overused last season and really didn't flash the explosiveness he showed in Miami. With our defense and QB situation we should run the ball as much as possible. It allows for certain game scripts to use these guys in tandem, keeping Miller fresher and playing to the strengths of our defense and limited QB play. We don't want to be using Alfred Blue or Jonathan Grimes in that role IMO...

 

[Buckna]

I agree that we need a solid backup behind Miller due to overuse. Foreman is a 2 down guy for now but has some potential to be more. But once again, didn't want to use the 3rd there, especially with the nice backs still there in round 4 and 5.

 

[lod001]

I agree that we need a solid backup behind Miller due to overuse. Foreman is a 2 down guy for now but has some potential to be more. But once again, didn't want to use the 3rd there, especially with the nice backs still there in round 4 and 5.

That's ok. These clowns refuse to incorporate RBs in the passing game. His targets dropped by 18 AND he was the fulltime RB.

 

[Buckna]

The tackle in the 4th was one of the guys we had a private workout for, he's got some promise. Dont know anything about the DT or DB we took.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

Going to try to be optimistic about this draft. Been clamoring for a QB forever, and Watson would've been my choice. It's nice to have hope for the future here. Love his pedigree and knack for playing big in the toughest moments. Hope he becomes the leader and QB we've lacked forever. I'm all in on this move.

I've also been wanting a LB who can run forever so hopefully Cunningham gives us a different kind of LB and can help keep our LBs from being roasted in coverage. Its been a problem for a long time. We really have needed speed here forever.

Really like Foreman and hope he can allow us to use Lamar Miller a little less and more efficiently. Don't mind using the 3rd rounder there because I think his talent warrants the selection, and can see him closing out games as a hammer. Maybe even potentially becoming our franchise back.

A bit concerned about the offensive line and secondary going forward. Gotta hope the fourth rounder Davenport proves a bit more advanced than advertised and can solidify RT. Wonder if there is a veteran with experience to add to the competition here (other than Chris Clark's sorry ###).  Would like to see Greg Mancz stay at center and Nick Martin supplant Jeff Adams at RG. Adams is horrible. Don't know anything about the Baylor center but hopefully the depth allows Martin to try RG.

Don't know much about DeCoud either. Figure Johnson, Jackson and Joseph will man the corners with Bouye gone. Wondering what we will do at safety, we seem awfully thin there. Would've been nice to keep Bouye and move Kareem to safety.

What are everyone else's concerns and thoughts moving forward?

 

[GregR]

Zierlein mentioned at the end of his write up on him, pre-draft, that moving him to free safety might be a better option for Decoud.