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2021 New York football Giants (5 Viewers)

"Is the glass half empty or half full?" is a common expression, a proverbial phrase, generally used rhetorically to indicate that a particular situation could be a cause for pessimism (half-empty) or optimism (half full), or as a general litmus test to simply determine an individual's worldview.

 
Giants RB observation ... These are som big boys 

  • Barkley - 5' 11"  233
  • Booker -  5' 11"  219
  • Clement -  5' 10"  220
  • Brightwell -  6' 01"  219
  • Armstead - 5'11"    220
 
Giants RB observation ... These are som big boys 

  • Barkley - 5' 11"  233
  • Booker -  5' 11"  219
  • Clement -  5' 10"  220
  • Brightwell -  6' 01"  219
  • Armstead - 5'11"    220
monk I noticed that also.    interested in seeing what Garrett has in store for our attack, I'm certainly not sold on Garrett or this O-line yet.     i miss the jacobs/bradshaw/d. ward days...aka Earth, Wind and Fire.

 
Some OTA notes

https://www.nj.com/giants/2021/05/giants-ota-observations-kenny-golladay-kadarius-toney-among-many-notable-no-shows-lorenzo-carter-returns-from-injury-more.html

Players not there

DEFENSE: DL Leonard Williams, DL Dexter Lawrence, DL B.J. Hill, DT Austin Johnson, OLB Cam Brown, OLB Ryan Anderson, ILB Reggie Ragland, CB Adoree’ Jackson, CB James Bradberry, S Logan Ryan, S Jabrill Peppers, CB Aaron Robinson, CB Darnay Holmes, CB Sam Beal, CB Isaac Yiadom, S Xavier McKinney, S Julian Love

OFFENSE: WR Kenny Golladay, WR Kadarius Toney, WR John Ross

 
Some more OTA notes 

https://theathletic.com/2617862/2021/05/27/daniel-jones-impresses-perfect-attendance-for-the-o-line-and-more-from-the-new-york-giants-ota-on-thursday/

All 14 of the OL on the roster were at OTA. The projected starting unit, per Dan Duggan

LT- Andrew Thomas, LG- Shane Lemieux, C-Nick Gates, RG-Will Hernandez, RT-Matt Peart

Very young starting unit. Hernandez is the oldest guy at 25 years of age.

Andrew Thomas and Lorenzo Carter appear to be back from injury as both were on the field today

Carter Coughlin took snaps at ILB

 
SI: how kadarius toney's background as a qb will help him in nfl

"David Morris, a former college quarterback at Ole Miss and the founder of QB Country, has been around his fair share of outstanding quarterbacks.....

“The first time I saw him, there was a lot of people oohing and aahing, and I just saw this ball going like 80 yards over and over. I was like, ‘Oh my gosh, is somebody throwing that?’”

“He was always willing to do whatever it took to work hard, to give back,” Morris said. 

“He was very involved in the community when he was in high school and is just a good kid.”

“He knows how to look at a defense. He knows how to asse(s) coverage. He knows how to understand when a defense is about to blitz, which might affect routes or timing and all these things,” Morris said. 

“So yeah, I think given his quarterback background, he brings a little bit more of a general understanding about football than other positions.”

 
Giants D is going to be real good. Big Blue Banter thinks easily top 10 more likely top 5 defense with personel they have added 
I agree. I think the defense will be very good, not quite elite but very good. The absence of a dominate pass rusher keeps them out of the elite category for me but I think that the players and depth in the secondary will make the pass rush effective. Well the secondary and Patrick Graham’s schemes.

I’m a little excited to see if Dexter Lawrence can improve his game this season. I think he did a nice job last year and he seems like a kid on the rise.

 
Jabrill Peppers makes the safety list at #26

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-safety-rankings-the-32-best-safeties-entering-the-2021-nfl-season

As far as I know the Giants have not tried to lock him up on a long term deal yet 
Thats not too good but in Jabril's defense he hasnt had much stability since entering the league. I think his verstility makes him more valuable then some of (maybe a lot of)  the players head of him. With a stronger cast of DBs around him and the 2nd year in Patrick Graham's system, I think he will perform in the top half of the league

Interesting ... Collins is ranked 2 spots below him at 28 

 
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Free agent of note: Austin Reiter (Would be 14th)

Reiter, who is still available in free agency, probably would have found his way onto the top half of this list if he was on a roster. He isn’t going to be a difference-maker in the run game, but he has been one of the more reliable pass protectors at center over his past two seasons as the Chiefs' starter. He ranks in the 91st percentile of all players at the position in pass-blocking grade since 2019. 

 
monk said:
Thats not too good but in Jabril's defense he hasnt had much stability since entering the league. I think his verstility makes him more valuable then some of (maybe a lot of)  the players head of him. With a stronger cast of DBs around him and the 2nd year in Patrick Graham's system, I think he will perform in the top half of the league

Interesting ... Collins is ranked 2 spots below him at 28 
With Peppers, Ryan, and McKinney, I have a feeling the safety group is going to look a lot better than suggested by having only one guy listed at 26. 

Assuming they stay healthy, of course.

 
Giants OL ranked #32 by PFF heading into the 2021 season

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-line-units-entering-2021-season

Giants offensive linemen have combined to produce the fifth-worst overall grade in the league over the past two years, and they rank in the bottom eight in both pass blocking and run blocking. 

Starting left tackle Nate Solder opted out in 2020, whcih hurt the team's depth up front. First-rounder Andrew Thomas started at left tackle and struggled to a 62.4 overall grade. His 54.7 pass-blocking grade also ranked just 82nd out of 89 qualifiers. Solder is currently in the mix to start at right tackle, a position he hasn’t played since his rookie year in 2011. In his two years in New York, Solder has posted a solid 75.7 grade and a career-low 64.9 mark. He could be a cap casualty before the season.

Matt Peart, a 2020 third-rounder,  is competing at right tackle after grading out at 69.7 overall on 150 snaps as a rookie. Peart enjoyed a good career at UConn and is young at the position, so he has starting potential at some point.

On the interior, Nick Gates returns after moving to center for the first time in his career in 2020. He managed just a 59.7 grade, though, ranking 29th among centers. Guard is wide open, with several players battling for the two starting spots. Will Hernandez is a three-year starter at left guard, although he hasn’t graded over 60.0 since his rookie season. Shane Lemieux played 504 snaps there last year and struggled to a 32.2 overall grade. Zach Fulton is also in the mix after recording a 63.0 overall grade last season, ranking 44th among 86 qualifying guards.

For perspective, former Giants starter Kevin Zeitler earned a 65.9 overall grade, though that’s the only time in his career with a season mark below 73.0. Kenny Wiggins and Jonotthan Harrison also have starting experience, but neither has graded above 62.1 in any season in their respective NFL careers.

The bottom line is that the Giants' offensive line is a massive question mark. They need their young players to develop and their veterans to provide career years just to rank in the middle of the pack for 2021.

 
Giants DL ranked #18  https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-all-32-nfl-defensive-line-units-entering-2021-season

Dalvin Tomlinson won’t be easily replaced in the middle of New York’s defensive line. Luckily for the Giants, the interior defensive line was their deepest position group last year. Leonard Williams (79.8 PFF grade in 2020) and Dexter Lawrence (79.7) remain one of the best inside duos in the NFL. The concerns begin to arise on the edge. New York’s top four pressure producers in 2020 were all interior defenders. A lot of weight will fall on the shoulders of second-round pick Azeez Ojulari as he looks to contribute early in his NFL career.   

 
Giants Projected starting Oline and their PFF rank last season

  • LT - Thomas - 59th of 79 (15 Career Starts)
  • LG - Lemieux - 80th of 80 (9 Career Starts)
  • C  - Gates - 27th of 36 (19 Starts) 
  • RG - Hernandez - 53rd of 80 (39 Career Starts) 
  • RT - Peart - Didn't Qualify (1 Career Start) 
 
Forgot to post the Athletic training camp update. It's paywalled so if you don't have a sub here it is: https://theathletic.com/2645792/2021/06/11/daniel-jones-and-kenny-golladay-developing-chemistry-and-other-giants-minicamp-takeaways/

The New York Giants wrapped up their three-day mandatory minicamp on Thursday. The team has two voluntary practices early next week and then there’s a six-week break before training camp.

The most important development during minicamp is that the team appeared to avoid any serious injuries. Here are some additional takeaways from this week’s practices:

• New wide receiver Kenny Golladay replied, “That’s my boy,” when asked for his first impression of quarterback Daniel Jones. Jones has proactively built a relationship with the $72 million receiver (and the rest of the receiving corps) this offseason, organizing workouts in New Jersey, North Carolina and Arizona.

The chemistry between Jones and Golladay continued to grow this week. The duo seemed to be together whenever an opportunity presented itself.

While most players participated in a special-teams drill at the start of each practice, Jones and Golladay went to an adjacent field to play catch. During a special-teams period later in practice, the quarterbacks and a few receivers, including Golladay, worked near the goal line. Wednesday’s throwing sessions featured a smooth one-handed catch by Golladay as he drilled back-shoulder fades with Jones.

The Giants are counting on the addition of Golladay to help Jones make a leap in his third season. The relationship is in its very early stages, but the first impression was promising.

• Rookie wide receiver Kadarius Toney has had an inauspicious introduction to the team that took him with the 20th pick in this year’s draft. Toney didn’t finish either of the team’s two rookie minicamp practices, first due to an issue with his cleats and then due to an apparent minor injury.

Toney then skipped three weeks of voluntary full-team workouts, which is an unusual step for a rookie. Toney signed his contract last Friday and reported for minicamp, but he left Tuesday’s practice early after again slipping multiple times.

The good news is that Toney completed Wednesday’s practice and showed glimpses of his skill set. Jones described Toney as “twitchy and explosive,” and special-teams coordinator Thomas McGaughey referred to the rookie’s “extreme talent” and “unique traits.”

Toney’s quickness and agility stand out in practice. The issue has been keeping him on the field. He was excused from Thursday’s practice for a family emergency, according to the team.

My understanding is that Toney’s absence from the voluntary workouts was because he hadn’t signed his contract. That’s bizarre since rookies regularly participate in the offseason program before signing their contracts because they sign waivers that protect them in case of injury. Toney signed the waiver before participating in rookie minicamp, which is why his subsequent absence from the voluntary program surprised the team.

Toney missed three weeks of working with Jones to build chemistry. Toney didn’t get any reps with Jones in team periods during minicamp, working exclusively with the second-string offense.

Wide receivers coach Tyke Tolbert spent a lot of time working with Toney, however. Expect that to continue, as Toney has plenty of room to grow.

• Toney’s four-year, $13.7 million contract is fully guaranteed. The Giants have $2.4 million in cap space after signing their draft class.

• A slimmed down Patrick Graham — the defensive coordinator said he got serious about losing weight after being “my heaviest at the end of last year in my whole life” — spoke for the first time since passing on an opportunity to interview for the Jets’ head coaching job in January. Graham instead signed an extension to remain as the Giants’ DC and assistant head coach.

“This is my dream job to be here as the defensive coordinator for the New York Giants,” Graham said. “So I’m just happy to be here. It’s nothing against (the Jets) or anything. I’m just happy to be a New York Giant.”

Graham later acknowledged that he has aspirations to advance in his career, but he’s in no hurry to leave his current situation. He’s extremely close to coach Joe Judge, dating back to their time together in New England, and he seems intent on building on a strong defensive performance last season.

“We played decent defense as the year went on, (though there’s) a lot of room to grow,” Graham said.

Graham is being modest considering the Giants finished ninth in points allowed despite some glaring personnel deficiencies. The Giants made personnel upgrades in the offseason and the returning players’ reverence for their leader is evident.

Safeties Logan Ryan and Jabrill Peppers both mentioned “the beauty of Graham” when it comes to fitting pieces together.

“He’s a hell of a coach,” Peppers said. “I’m happy we got him back. We’re not done yet. I don’t think we touched the tip of the iceberg.”

• The mix at safety is intriguing since Ryan signed last year after Xavier McKinney got injured in training camp. McKinney didn’t debut until Week 12 and only played substantial snaps in the final four games.

So now is the first time the three safeties have been on even ground. Ryan and Peppers appear to be atop the depth chart, but the Giants figure to play plenty of three-safety packages. The workload for some defensive backs could vary greatly from week to week as Graham adjusts the game plan based on the matchup.

The Giants can play a bigger nickel package with McKinney as the fifth defensive back or use a cornerback in the slot — Darnay Holmes or Aaron Robinson — in a more traditional nickel package. The Giants will also use a dime package with McKinney and an extra corner.

• The defensive depth chart isn’t easy to decipher in a Judge practice, especially so far from the start of the season. There’s a ton of mixing and matching that makes it difficult to know if a player is truly rising up the depth chart or if a starter is just having a lighter day.

Among the contested spots, Austin Johnson appears to be the top nose tackle, stepping into the void created by Dalvin Tomlinson’s free-agent departure. Tae Crowder, who made six starts as a rookie, looks like the top option next to Blake Martinez at inside linebacker in the base defense. Lorenzo Carter, Oshane Ximines, Azeez Ojulari and Elerson Smith all got work with the first-team defense at outside linebacker. Holmes was the top slot cornerback, but Robinson was held out of live drills, likely due to a minor injury. Robinson got some work with the first-team nickel defense in install periods.

• There are no injury reports at this point of the offseason, but the only players not spotted at the three practices were running back Saquon Barkley, running back Taquan Mizzell, outside linebacker Cam Brown and outside linebacker Ryan Anderson. Barkley is rehabilitating a torn ACL and Mizzell appeared to suffer an injury during an OTA practice last week. Brown and Anderson haven’t participated in any practices this spring. They are dealing with relatively minor injuries, according to a source.

Tight end Kyle Rudolph didn’t practice as he recovers from foot surgery, but the veteran was at Wednesday’s practice observing. On Thursday, a stationary Rudolph caught passes from Jones. Judge was non-committal when asked if Rudolph will be ready for training camp.

Wide receiver John Ross missed Tuesday’s practice before being a limited participant on Wednesday. Ross left Thursday’s practice early as he continued to deal with an undisclosed ailment. It wasn’t a good start for Ross, who was hampered by injuries throughout his four seasons in Cincinnati.

Left tackle Andrew Thomas, who had surgery on his ankle in January, appeared to be on a pitch count. Thomas was held out of conditioning at the end of Tuesday’s practice and had lighter workloads on Wednesday and Thursday. Nate Solder stepped in at left tackle with the starters for a few team periods.

Second-string center Jonotthan Harrison didn’t participate in team periods during the first two days of minicamp. That gave undrafted rookie Brett Heggie an opportunity to work as the second-team center. Zach Fulton, who has been the second-string right guard, stepped in as the third-team center. Fulton has mostly played right guard during his seven-year career, but he saw extensive time at center in 2017 for the Chiefs. Starting left guard Shane Lemieux also took a few reps at center during Tuesday’s practice.

Solder has worked on both sides, but he spent most of his time behind Matt Peart at right tackle. Solder said he needed the break “mentally and physically” that was afforded by opting out of last season. The 33-year-old genuinely seems happy to be playing again and accepts that he’ll likely be a backup after making 127 career starts.

• Barkley provided an update on his rehab from a torn ACL on Wednesday, but the running back sidestepped any questions about a timetable for his return.

“I have no expectation, no set day when I’m going to be full go,” Barkley said.

The season opener will be almost a full year from the date of Barkley’s injury. History suggests that should be enough time for him to recover, but it’s clear he and the team are taking a cautious approach.

If Barkley isn’t ready — at least not for a full workload — free-agent signing Devontae Booker is clearly in line to take over as the lead back. Corey Clement, who signed after a rookie minicamp tryout, also got some work this week with the starters.

• Seven players got extra special-teams reps each day while the rest of the team participated in individual position drills: running back Gary Brightwell, fullback Cullen Gillaspia, wide receiver Derrick Dillon, outside linebacker Azeez Ojulari, outside linebacker Elerson Smith, cornerback Jarren Williams and cornerback Chris Milton. Outside of Ojulari, a second-round pick, and Smith, a fourth-round pick, those players will need to stand out on special teams to earn roster spots, so the extra reps should be beneficial.

Toney, Holmes, Sterling Shepard, Adoree’ Jackson, Darius Slayton and Dante Pettis took reps returning punts. Interestingly, Peppers, who had a team-high 15 punt returns last season, didn’t get any work at returner.

The best bet would be using Toney as the punt returner, as it’s an easy way to get the ball into his hands. An added benefit of having Toney return punts is it would lighten the workload of Peppers, who never comes off the field on defense. Holmes can be eliminated from the equation after repeatedly muffing punts this week.

• Kelvin Benjamin was a wide receiver when he was a first-round pick by the Panthers in 2014. The 6-foot-5, 245-pounder is transitioning to tight end, but he worked with the wide receivers at times during minicamp. Benjamin, who left practice early on Tuesday but returned on Wednesday, is essentially playing detached tight end. He mostly lined up as a big slot receiver. It would be a major upset if he makes the team after being out of the league for two years.

Quincy Wilson was a cornerback when he was a second-round pick by the Colts in 2017, but he worked with the safeties during minicamp.

• Former Tennessee head coach Jeremy Pruitt is listed as a senior defensive assistant. That title gives Pruitt flexibility, but he worked extensively with the defensive backs during minicamp. That’s not surprising since he’s coached defensive backs throughout his career. He was Alabama’s defensive backs coach when he worked alongside Judge in 2010 and 2011.

• There was a scary scene during Tuesday’s practice when running backs coach Burton Burns was carted off the field after appearing to collapse on a sweltering day. The 68-year-old received immediate attention from the Giants medical staff, while owner John Mara, general manager Dave Gettleman and assistant general manager Kevin Abrams looked on.

The Giants said Burns was dealing with heat exhaustion. He was back at practice on Wednesday, wearing a hat with a large brim and spending some time watching from a covered golf cart.
 
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Forgot to post the Athletic training camp update. It's paywalled so if you don't have a sub here it is: https://theathletic.com/2645792/2021/06/11/daniel-jones-and-kenny-golladay-developing-chemistry-and-other-giants-minicamp-takeaways/
Jeez ... I dont like this Toney pick at all ! In fact I hate it ! To think this could have been a stud olineman ... it makes my stomach hurt 

• Rookie wide receiver Kadarius Toney has had an inauspicious introduction to the team that took him with the 20th pick in this year’s draft. Toney didn’t finish either of the team’s two rookie minicamp practices, first due to an issue with his cleats and then due to an apparent minor injury.

Toney then skipped three weeks of voluntary full-team workouts, which is an unusual step for a rookie. Toney signed his contract last Friday and reported for minicamp, but he left Tuesday’s practice early after again slipping multiple times.

My understanding is that Toney’s absence from the voluntary workouts was because he hadn’t signed his contract. That’s bizarre since rookies regularly participate in the offseason program before signing their contracts because they sign waivers that protect them in case of injury. Toney signed the waiver before participating in rookie minicamp, which is why his subsequent absence from the voluntary program surprised the team.

Toney missed three weeks of working with Jones to build chemistry. Toney didn’t get any reps with Jones in team periods during minicamp, working exclusively with the second-string offense.

 
Giants Projected starting Oline and their PFF rank last season

  • LT - Thomas - 59th of 79 (15 Career Starts)
  • LG - Lemieux - 80th of 80 (9 Career Starts)
  • C  - Gates - 27th of 36 (19 Starts) 
  • RG - Hernandez - 53rd of 80 (39 Career Starts) 
  • RT - Peart - Didn't Qualify (1 Career Start) 
Are you a PFF subscriber? If so can you tell us how Thomas graded out with Columbo and then how he graded out after Columbo left?

 
Sam Beal pleads guilty to gun related charges

Sam Beal already was a long shot to make the Giants this season, and he’s not helping himself off the field, either.

The former third-round supplemental draft pick pleaded guilty June 4 to two gun-related charges in Ohio stemming from a June 2020 arrest near Cleveland, according to Lorain County court records.

Beal entered into a pretrial diversion program and he has been placed on probation until June 2022. He was ordered to pay court costs and court-appointed attorney fees.

Beal was arrested on June 2, 2020, according to court records. He was pulled over by police for an alleged traffic violation and was charged with carrying a concealed weapon, improperly handling a firearm in a vehicle and marijuana possession.

He was indicted on the gun charges on Aug. 13 — eight days after he opted out of the 2020 NFL season, as allowed by the league’s COVID-19 protocols.

Beal, 24, likely will go down as one of the biggest draft blunders of general manager Dave Gettleman’s career. The Giants used a third-round pick in the 2018 supplemental draft — which cost the Giants a third-round pick in 2019.

 
kodycutter said:
Sam Beal pleads guilty to gun related charges

Sam Beal already was a long shot to make the Giants this season, and he’s not helping himself off the field, either.

The former third-round supplemental draft pick pleaded guilty June 4 to two gun-related charges in Ohio stemming from a June 2020 arrest near Cleveland, according to Lorain County court records.

Beal entered into a pretrial diversion program and he has been placed on probation until June 2022. He was ordered to pay court costs and court-appointed attorney fees.

Beal was arrested on June 2, 2020, according to court records. He was pulled over by police for an alleged traffic violation and was charged with carrying a concealed weapon, improperly handling a firearm in a vehicle and marijuana possession.

He was indicted on the gun charges on Aug. 13 — eight days after he opted out of the 2020 NFL season, as allowed by the league’s COVID-19 protocols.

Beal, 24, likely will go down as one of the biggest draft blunders of general manager Dave Gettleman’s career. The Giants used a third-round pick in the 2018 supplemental draft — which cost the Giants a third-round pick in 2019.
I guess we could close the book on Beal ...probably why he opted out last season 

 
I guess we could close the book on Beal ...probably why he opted out last season 
Definitely not a good look for Beal but he was going to have a tough time making the roster at CB anyway. The Giants are likely going to carry 6 CB, the top 4 spots are going to be Bradberry, Jackson, Holmes, and Robinson.

The last 2 spots will be between Beal, Williams, Yiadom and Harper 

 
Unheralded signing the defenses sleeper?

Despite not investing a first-round pick or premium free agent dollars addressing an inconsistent pass-rush, former Minnesota Vikings outside linebacker Ifeadi Odenigbo has the potential to make a real impact.

Last season, Odenigbo produced 3.5 sacks in 15 games, and has 7.5 through his first three seasons, along with 59 total tackles.

“I like the way he plays football,” Graham told reporters last week during Giants mandatory minicamp. “He has versatility inside and outside on the line. Natural pass rush ability. Plays strong with his hands. Physical edge setter and a great attitude.”

“He has great quickness and is a really smart and productive player,” former Minnesota Vikings general manager and Executive of The Year Jeff Diamond recently told GmenHQ. “I was surprised the Vikings didn’t tender him after he had seven sacks as a part-time player in 2019, and led the team in quarterback pressures this past season."

 
Unheralded signing the defenses sleeper?

Despite not investing a first-round pick or premium free agent dollars addressing an inconsistent pass-rush, former Minnesota Vikings outside linebacker Ifeadi Odenigbo has the potential to make a real impact.

Last season, Odenigbo produced 3.5 sacks in 15 games, and has 7.5 through his first three seasons, along with 59 total tackles.

“I like the way he plays football,” Graham told reporters last week during Giants mandatory minicamp. “He has versatility inside and outside on the line. Natural pass rush ability. Plays strong with his hands. Physical edge setter and a great attitude.”

“He has great quickness and is a really smart and productive player,” former Minnesota Vikings general manager and Executive of The Year Jeff Diamond recently told GmenHQ. “I was surprised the Vikings didn’t tender him after he had seven sacks as a part-time player in 2019, and led the team in quarterback pressures this past season."
Yeah I hear the Giants really like him 

I dont think Edge is a concern anymore after signing Odenigbo, drafting Ojulari and the return of Carter and Ximines from injuries. They actually have a lot of depth at the position now

 
Michael Lombardi: Jason Garrett has one last chance to prove he can build an offense that works for Daniel Jones (The Athletic)
 

Before each NFL season begins, there are always a few head coaches on the hot seat. The coaches themselves know they have one final year to show substantial progress or else they’ll lose their job. It’s the rules of the NFL — win or go home.

Lately, this trend has extended to coordinators as well. We’ve seen a huge uptick in coordinators losing their jobs during the season. In the past, head coaches had complete control over their staff, which allowed coordinators to have longer job security.  Now, in the age of the independent contract type of head coach, coordinators who have complete autonomy on their side of the ball must deliver results or run the risk of being thrown overboard — not by the head coach, but by the owner and front office.

Take Jason Garrett of the New York Giants as an example. When Joe Judge became the head coach, he entered into an arranged marriage with Garrett as his offensive coordinator. Before becoming the head coach of the Cowboys, Garrett had a reputation of being an offensive guru. Yet, the “guru” never manifested itself when he became head coach, as Garrett fell in line with the independent contractor model in Dallas and basically became the coach who clapped and congratulated players as they come off the field. Garrett allowed someone else to call plays and run his offense for 10 seasons. When he became available, the Giants front office jumped at the chance to pair Garrett with Judge, believing it would give them a dynamic duo.

But that didn’t happen. Last season, the Giants offense finished 31st in points scored, 31st against the blitz, 31st in red-zone offense, 30th in total points scored in the last eight games, 29th in third-down conversions, and 31st in completions of over 20 yards. They were bad in all phases.

In fairness to Garrett, his star running back, Saquon Barkley,  missed most of the season with a knee injury suffered against the Bears. But even when he was on the field early in the season, Barkley averaged a paltry 1.8 yards per carry with a long of 18 yards. The Giants’ run game looked predictable from formations to motions, and Barkley struggled to get back to the line of scrimmage. In the opening day game against Pittsburgh, Barkley totted the rock 15 times for six yards—yes, just six yards.

The struggles of the run game come from a combination of a lack of overall offensive talent around Barkley, as well as a lack of innovative design. Creating a running game takes motion, shifting, forcing the defense to mess up their run force, and getting your players easier angles to make blocks. The coach can get the back four or five yards; then, the talent can create bigger plays with the ability to make a defender miss or overpower a would-be tackler. When it goes this bad, it’s never the fault of just one area. The struggles led offensive line coach Marc Colombo to lose his job during the season. Garrett hand-picked Colombo to be his offensive line coach, so letting him go had to be a blow to Garrett and an indication that his own seat was warming.

The Giants’ offense struggled early and often, scoring fewer than 21 points 10 times during the season. This year, Garrett has to produce results in terms of yards, wins, and most of all, an improvement from his quarterback Daniel Jones. The Giants’ front office is all in on Jones. They have zero doubts that he will become a top player in the league, which places the burden on Garrett to demonstrate he can build an offense around Jones that will be successful.  In Jones’ 27-game NFL career, he has thrown for over 300 yards five times, winning two of those games and losing three. All five of those games occurred in 2019 when Garrett was not the coach. His best game under Garrett was when he threw for 256 yards on 41 attempts against the Bucs last season in a two-point loss. Under Garrett, Jones has never thrown for over 7.00 yards per attempt in any game. If that doesn’t change this season, Garrett, not Jones, will be the one they blame.

Giants fans and their front office must ask: why was Jones unable to throw the ball down the field and make big plays? Was it a design problem or an execution issue? When a player has a 27-game sample size, it should provide enough clues to answer the most fundamental question related to the quarterback position: Who am I? It sounds like a simple question, yet it often never gets addressed or answered correctly. Last year, the Browns asked themselves the same question as it related to Baker Mayfield and the answer led them to hire Kevin Stefanski as the head coach, installing his play-action pass-heavy run game offense for Mayfield to direct. It proved successful, and Mayfield had a great year.

This leads us back to Garrett and Jones. Who is Jones? What offense fits Jones? Is there an offense that fits him? In college at Duke under David Cutcliffe, Jones was a West Coast offense-type rhythm passer who could throw the ball with accuracy and touch. Jones is smart, can make checks at the line, and needs to play from in front. During his Giants career, Jones has thrown 595 of his 907 career passing attempts playing from behind. Only 191 of his attempts have come when Jones has been in the lead, so it’s vital for Garrett and the Giants offense to start fast and allow Jones to gain confidence. Jones has struggled to play fast when the opponent attacks the pocket; Jones has a 79.1 rating when facing the blitz, and his fumbling issue takes center stage.

Garrett specializes in the Norv Turner system from his days with Troy Aikman and Turner in Dallas. That does have west coast elements but traditionally wants to work the ball down the field, making big plays, which didn’t happen last season. Jones, in his career, has thrown 39 passes for over a 25-yard completion, and last year under Garrett, he had only 16 in 14 games. So, will Garrett adjust his offense to fit Jones, or was this lack of explosive plays a result of not having talented enough players on offense? Garrett must improve Jones’ accuracy on throws between 11-20 yards. Jones is 79/151 on throws in that rage during his career, with six touchdowns and nine interceptions. If Garrett can get more completions in this range, it will help the Giants’ offense.

Jones and Garrett are both at a crossroads in their careers. If Garrett is ever going to become a head coach again, he must prove he can fix and develop the Giants’ offense. Garrett cannot blame the players or lack of talent; he must produce wins and offensive potency. If he doesn’t, he will never get another head coaching position or become an offensive coordinator again. He must make this offense work.

If Jones wants to have his fifth-year option exercised and be the Giants’ future, he needs to have a solid season. And for that to happen, Garrett will need to be adaptable; he will need to stray from his roots and develop an offense around Jones, using the enhancements in skill players, from Kenny Golladay, first-round pick Kadarius Toney and the return of a healthy Barkley.  The pressure is on Garrett to produce as the Giants have spent money, invested draft picks, and now want to see the results. Jones must not be careless with the ball in the pocket — he has fumbled 20 times in his career, losing 12.

If the Giants are successful, then Garrett should get a large share of the success. If not, he will assume all of the blame. Even though both Jones and Garrett are at a crossroads, the Giants ownership or the front office will be less willing to blame Jones. Garrett needs a big year and must prove that the “guru” label he once had was real.
 
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I'm not optimistic  at all regarding the Giants Oline ... there are just too many things that need to go right for them to be even  an average Oline. They are going into the season as the 32nd ranked Oline by PFF. They have terrible depth and an injury to either LT- Thomas or C- Gates would be catastrophic

 
I'm not optimistic  at all regarding the Giants Oline ... there are just too many things that need to go right for them to be even  an average Oline. They are going into the season as the 32nd ranked Oline by PFF. They have terrible depth and an injury to either LT- Thomas or C- Gates would be catastrophic
This is totally understandable and sadly something that has been true for each of the last 8 or 10 years.

We can only hope that the new OL coach can get the unit to play decent

 
This Player Was Named the New York Giants' "Big Regret" of Offseason 

https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/news/this-player-was-named-the-new-york-giants-big-regret-of-offseason

Unfortunately I agree with this ... really looking like Toney is the next Baker or Beal. What a freakin haorrible shame to throw away a 1st round pick after making such a great trade. 

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On Giants.com The Giants.com crew is presented with four statements and must decide whether they are Fact or Fiction.

The player you're most excited to see with the pads on at training camp is rookie LB Azeez Ojulari.

Not one mention of the Giants 1st Round pick ???? That tells you something 

 
This is the first I'm reading Garrett was solely a Mara selection and Judge had nothing to do with bringing him in. Also that Garrett brought in his OL coach who failed spectacularly and was replaced midseason.

Do you guys agree with that? Lombardi has been wrong plenty in the past.

If true, very surprising Garrett was brought back. It was a weird hire to begin with. Billionaire owners truly do live in their own bubble. Also, if this is true, it makes Judge look even better considering last year's turnaround was mostly due to the D.

 
PSA: The Giants have an app available on the Amazon Firestick (I assume its available on other devices too) called Giants TV

They have some good stuff up there, like some old games, giants chronicles, interviews etc.

 

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