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2021 New York football Giants (5 Viewers)

I’m probably the only Giants fan that doesn’t hate Engram and even I’m surprised they didn’t trade him. Despite him being a Reese draftee the coaching staff seems to like his work ethic.

I think (fear) that the front office and coaching staff believes that they have a shot at making the playoffs. They are 2 games out of the last playoff spot and probably would have won 2 or 3 more games if not for some self-inflected wounds. They probably if they clean things up and get some guys healthy (Barkley, Golladay and Thomas) that they can make a run.

 
ROSTER MOVES:

ACTIVATED FROM RESERVE:
RB Saquon Barkley
DB Xavier McKinney

TERMINATED FROM PRACTICE SQUAD:
TE Jake Hausmann

PRACTICE SQUAD SIGNING
RB Dexter Williams

PLACED ON IR:
WR Dante Pettis   - The Frankman won't like this.

 
16 NFL teams in attendance for today’s matchup between Liberty (Malik Willis) and Ole Miss (Matt Corral), including: ARZ, ATL, BUF, CAR, DAL, DEN, HOU, IND, NE, NO, PHI, PIT, TB, TEN, SEA, and WFT.

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no NYG.

 
kodycutter said:
16 NFL teams in attendance for today’s matchup between Liberty (Malik Willis) and Ole Miss (Matt Corral), including: ARZ, ATL, BUF, CAR, DAL, DEN, HOU, IND, NE, NO, PHI, PIT, TB, TEN, SEA, and WFT.

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no NYG.
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It's good to see Gettleman not doing any due diligence...

 
monk said:
Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda ... But the Giants really should be 6-3 right now ... @ min 5-4 

Hopefully the Giants are going to open up the offense after the bye week ... They should have Saquan and hopefully Thomas back by then 
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Yeah man its frustrating to think that this team is a few self-inflicted wounds from being a legit division contender.

The announcers mentioned during the game that the Giants lead the league in special teams penalties with 12. I’m guessing they are pretty high up there in total penalties and penalty yards as well.

It’s good to see the scoring defense start coming around (they give up too many yards for my liking), let’s hope that after the bye the defense can keep it up and the offense gets healthy.

 
I'll be at Giants/Bucs game Monday night,a few rows up behind Big Blue's bench. Anyone have anything they'd like me to say/yell/scream at any particlular player or coach? No profanity please,there will be minors present. And I will be wearing my Mark Bavaro jersey so I don't want to disgrace the man or the jersey.😎

 
Dan Salomone

@Dan_Salomone

ROSTER UPDATE: OT Andrew Thomas has been designated to return to practice.

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Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton
Giants holding a pair of walkthroughs today, which has been their want on Wednesdays.

No injury report today due to MNF.

Saquon Barkley expected to practice. Sterling Shepard and Devontae Booker on side with trainers. 

Andrew Thomas stretched. Not sure how much he'll do today

 
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Rubi said:
I'll be at Giants/Bucs game Monday night,a few rows up behind Big Blue's bench. Anyone have anything they'd like me to say/yell/scream at any particlular player or coach? No profanity please,there will be minors present. And I will be wearing my Mark Bavaro jersey so I don't want to disgrace the man or the jersey.😎
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#1 have fun at the game. 

Tell Saquon to limit the dancing and to hit the hole hard. Tell Garrett no curl or stick routes for Engram. Also tell Garrett to dial up some deep shots to Golladay and get the ball in Toney's hands often

 
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan

Logan Ryan had a positive COVID-19 test, per Joe Judge.They’re waiting for one final test but they don’t think this is a false positive like they had a few weeks ago. So the Giants almost certainly without their captain in the secondary Monday night vs. the Bucs.

 
Sources: The #Bears are placing All-Pro pass-rusher Khalil Mack on Injured Reserve to have season-ending foot surgery.

looking like 2 top 10 picks this year.

 
Last night was ugly. I’m not surprised they lost, Tampa Bay is a much better team.

Defense simply lacks pass rush. Hopefully that will be addressed in the draft.

Stating the obvious but the offensive line is offensive. Jones made some terrible decisions last night. I’m not sure why the 70-million-dollar free agent only gets 2 targets but what do I know?

 
G-King said:
As a Cowboy fan I hate this. I was looking for many more years of Clappa Red suckage. But apparently you guys are lucky it only took 26 games to realize how bad he is. We took nine blood boiling years to do it.

Seriously, congrats on the move. 
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It stings worse if the Daily News report is true:

Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, a hot head coaching candidate and a former Patriots colleague of Judge’s, made sense as Judge’s OC choice in both 2020 and 2021 if stars had aligned. Instead it was Garrett.
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Now to be fair, this might be conjecture. But at the time Judge was assembling a staff, his name did come up as a possible OC choice.

 
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I love this move because they didn't stupidly wait until the end of the season. Also the side effect of this (in all probability) is Freddie Kitchens will remove most of the game manager restrictions on Daniel Jones. Last year when the Giants had their win streak Jones was a strict game manager when healthy, minimizing his mistakes and keeping him short/1-read focused. Even the Raiders' game he only passed for 150 yards... now they'll ramp up his evaluation by throwing the kitchen sink at him again. So:

1) He'll have some 300+ yards games, maybe even 3-4 TD games

2) He will turn it over in droves because that's what he's done any time they open up the playbook for him.

3) The Giants will finally release him at the end of the year.

4) Gettleman will be fired.

 
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Giants fired OC Jason Garrett.

Only the Jets (1.42) and Jaguars (1.54) have averaged fewer points per drive than the Giants (1.60) under Garrett since 2020, ranking stone-last in the NFL with 42 offensive touchdowns in that time and mustering season-lows in points, yards (215), first downs (15) and time of possession (24:21) on Monday night against the Bucs. It was a poor hiring from the beginning as Dave Gettleman was literally the only general manager bidding against himself for Garrett's services. Freddie Kitchens, Joe Judge’s senior offensive assistant, is expected to take over play-calling with Garrett gone beginning on Sunday against the Eagles. It remains to be seen who Joe Judge will scapegoat next for his own poor coaching with Garrett no longer around to blame.
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The Frankman said:
I love this move because they didn't stupidly wait until the end of the season. Also the side effect of this (in all probability) is Freddie Kitchens will remove most of the game manager restrictions on Daniel Jones. Last year when the Giants had their win streak Jones was a strict game manager when healthy, minimizing his mistakes and keeping him short/1-read focused. Even the Raiders' game he only passed for 150 yards... now they'll ramp up his evaluation by throwing the kitchen sink at him again. So:

1) He'll have some 300+ yards games, maybe even 3-4 TD games

2) He will turn it over in droves because that's what he's done any time they open up the playbook for him.

3) The Giants will finally release him at the end of the year.

4) Gettleman will be fired.
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Unless they have a deal in place for an established vet, I don't see them releasing Jones.

 
Yenrub said:
Unless they have a deal in place for an established vet, I don't see them releasing Jones.
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Unless we see a massive improvement in his processing skills, I don't see him as the Giants starter next year. He's not even having any of the flashes we saw him have his rookie year. I'm not sure which vet they could bring in next year (Colt McCoy? Maybe Ryan Fitzpatrick) but thye need someone who can process and has the confidence to throw in tight windows. A good OC may be able to mask Jones with better playcalls, but right now Saquon's receiving skills and Golladay's elite contested catch numbers are being wasted.

 
The Frankman said:
I love this move because they didn't stupidly wait until the end of the season. Also the side effect of this (in all probability) is Freddie Kitchens will remove most of the game manager restrictions on Daniel Jones. Last year when the Giants had their win streak Jones was a strict game manager when healthy, minimizing his mistakes and keeping him short/1-read focused. Even the Raiders' game he only passed for 150 yards... now they'll ramp up his evaluation by throwing the kitchen sink at him again. So:

1) He'll have some 300+ yards games, maybe even 3-4 TD games

2) He will turn it over in droves because that's what he's done any time they open up the playbook for him.

3) The Giants will finally release him at the end of the year.

4) Gettleman will be fired.
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And all his apologists will cry that he never had a good enough team around him.

 
The Frankman said:
Unless we see a massive improvement in his processing skills, I don't see him as the Giants starter next year. He's not even having any of the flashes we saw him have his rookie year. I'm not sure which vet they could bring in next year (Colt McCoy? Maybe Ryan Fitzpatrick) but thye need someone who can process and has the confidence to throw in tight windows. A good OC may be able to mask Jones with better playcalls, but right now Saquon's receiving skills and Golladay's elite contested catch numbers are being wasted.
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JimmyG baby!

 
The Frankman said:
Unless we see a massive improvement in his processing skills, I don't see him as the Giants starter next year. He's not even having any of the flashes we saw him have his rookie year. I'm not sure which vet they could bring in next year (Colt McCoy? Maybe Ryan Fitzpatrick) but thye need someone who can process and has the confidence to throw in tight windows. A good OC may be able to mask Jones with better playcalls, but right now Saquon's receiving skills and Golladay's elite contested catch numbers are being wasted.
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McCoy or Fitzpatick? Heck No! I'd rather stick with Jones.  And I sure as heck don't want them using one of the draft picks on any QB from this draft class. I do hope one of those picks is my guy Ikem Ekwonu though. 

 
The Frankman said:
Unless we see a massive improvement in his processing skills, I don't see him as the Giants starter next year. He's not even having any of the flashes we saw him have his rookie year. I'm not sure which vet they could bring in next year (Colt McCoy? Maybe Ryan Fitzpatrick) but thye need someone who can process and has the confidence to throw in tight windows. A good OC may be able to mask Jones with better playcalls, but right now Saquon's receiving skills and Golladay's elite contested catch numbers are being wasted.
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There is no way the Giants should waste a pick on a QB in this coming draft ... For starters its a bad QB Draft and 2 of the teams ahead of the Giants right now will be looking for a QB ... Lions with the 1st pick and Texans currently #4 pick.

I've said before and I'll say it again (The commentors said it multiple times last night as well)  ... NO QB in the NFL is going to succeed behind this Oline. To throw away 1 or 2 top 10 picks to take a QB who will likely be no better than Jones would set the Giants back 5 years !!!!

Get Jones and Oline and a new Offensive Coordinator and upgrade the Defense !!!!  Worry about QB in 2023 if neccessary  

 
Freddie Kitchens? Oh my. I am sorry, guys. This isn't even to passively-aggressively gloat or anything. This is me shaking my head. 4th and nine draw plays? FFFFFFFF

 
rockaction said:
Freddie Kitchens? Oh my. I am sorry, guys. This isn't even to passively-aggressively gloat or anything. This is me shaking my head. 4th and nine draw plays? FFFFFFFF
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can it be worse than Garrett?   42tds under his reign.   last in the league.     i guess things could be worse.    team is a joke. last decade has been embarrassing.   

 
The Frankman said:
Also the side effect of this (in all probability) is Freddie Kitchens will remove most of the game manager restrictions on Daniel Jones. Last year when the Giants had their win streak Jones was a strict game manager when healthy, minimizing his mistakes and keeping him short/1-read focused. Even the Raiders' game he only passed for 150 yards... now they'll ramp up his evaluation by throwing the kitchen sink at him again
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I see what you did there.

 
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