2021 Philadelphia Eagles - Queued up a playlist of our greatest zits throughout the season for final game (1 Viewer)

[jon007]

Final 53. We are thin at RB and WR but the O-line and D-line depth looks great. Considering how healthy we are I see us making some trades soon.

QB (3): Hurts, Flacco, Minshew

RB (3): Sanders, Gainwell, Scott

WR (5): Smith, Reagor, Watkins, Ward, Arcega-Whiteside

TE (4): Ertz, Goedert, Stoll, Jackson

OL (10): Mailata, Seumalo, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson, Driscoll, Dickerson, Toth, Herbig, Dillard

DL (9): Graham, Cox, Hargrave, Sweat, Barnett, Kerrigan, Tuipulotu, Jackson, Williams

LB (7): Wilson, Singleton, Avery, Taylor, Bradley, Edwards, Johnson

DB (9): Slay, Nelson, McLeod, Maddox, Harris, Epps, McPhearson, Wallace, Scott

Specialists (3): Elliott, Siposs, Lovato

 

[Polish Hammer]

Please don't get into it here. It is very arguable and has been done plenty in the PSF. Please go there if you want to argue it.

You get to put your opinions on the policy/practice out there, but @babydemon90 doesn't get to retort? 

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Fulgham waived.  Now we know he was just never that good.

gonna give Doug come credit here on Fulgham. there were whispers that he was benched despite his brief success because of issues related to his work ethics. just last few weeks i questioned this news, thinking here comes the up and commer again. but this cut plus the fact that he was cut from two other practice squads before making his way back to the Eagles in the first place probably lends credence to that story. so kudos to Doug and staff for keeping that out of mainstream news and taking care of it in-house.

 

[The Noid]

We are thin at RB and WR but the O-line and D-line depth looks great. Considering how healthy we are I see us making some trades soon.

I think it's more likely there are IR moves coming and some re-signing of guys like Richard Rodgers, Jordan Howard, Andrew Adams, etc, or some waiver pick-ups. McLeod and Dickerson not going on PUP (meaning they would miss 6 games and not count toward the 53) means they think they will be ready to play earlier. Putting them on the 53 and then IR means they can come back after 3 games. And Tyree Jackson will also go on IR for the 6-8 weeks he's going to miss (but since he got hurt during camp, they couldn't use PUP for him.)

 

[Bigboy10182000]

And if Wentz got suspended for weed he'd be an idiot for that too.

Vaccinated people aren't putting him in any greater risk then unvaccinated, no.  That isnt 'arguable', unless we use a broad brush definition like saying 'a flat earth is arguable' - I mean sure, you can make the argument the earth is flat, you just sound ignorant and no one takes you seriously.

By all accounts and purposes he’s been fine, no? He’s been at risk when around vaccinated people. He’s literally in this situation now because of vaccinated people lol  

And take the stupid flat earth crap down the street. This isn’t March or April 2020 anymore. We know who’s more at risk and who isn’t and it damn sure isn’t a 28 year old in great shape. That’s before you get to the fact he’s not sick and that the sickness has done NOTHING to athletes in any professional sport. 

It’s. All. Optics. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Final 53. We are thin at RB and WR but the O-line and D-line depth looks great. Considering how healthy we are I see us making some trades soon.

QB (3): Hurts, Flacco, Minshew

RB (3): Sanders, Gainwell, Scott

WR (5): Smith, Reagor, Watkins, Ward, Arcega-Whiteside

TE (4): Ertz, Goedert, Stoll, Jackson

OL (10): Mailata, Seumalo, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson, Driscoll, Dickerson, Toth, Herbig, Dillard

DL (9): Graham, Cox, Hargrave, Sweat, Barnett, Kerrigan, Tuipulotu, Jackson, Williams

LB (7): Wilson, Singleton, Avery, Taylor, Bradley, Edwards, Johnson

DB (9): Slay, Nelson, McLeod, Maddox, Harris, Epps, McPhearson, Wallace, Scott

Specialists (3): Elliott, Siposs, Lovato

All looks about right. I’m glad they kept Jackson and I’m sure we will bring back Rogers soon after we IR Jackson. 

OL looks DEEP

Im a tad pissed we kept Ward and JJAW over Hightower but I get it. 

So curious to see what we have at LBer and DB too. I really hope these coaches get these young guys going. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Also pretty shocked not to see Jordan Howard make the team. By all accounts he was in great shape and was the second back in all the games IIRC. Normally we keep 4 RB’s too I believe so interesting to see us only keep 3 and leave him off

 

[DJackson10]

Columnist needs to get over himself. They didn't test positive. Blame the NFL for the stupid policy.

I saw this and laughed at the Columnist. Look I don't like people who don't get vaccinated and think it's selfish reasons and immaturity and some of the excuses I got a ton of counter arguments that would destroy their point. However thats here nor there for this thread. This is on the NFL's policy not Carson. Columnist I don't know and don't know enough colts fans to ask "Hey is this guy your version of Jeff McLane?" 

There's things to get on Carson about for sure but Jesus F Christ on a Cross is this really the mountain this guy wants to die on here? Was able to cop the actually article some how earlier and it kind of read like one of those self righteous Marcus Hayes pieces where he somehow manages to bring race into the article (Not this columnist but Hayes) where theres no reason too type write ups. If he was looking for clicks he sure got em today 

 

[DJackson10]

It gets mentioned occasionally but not by the really vocal people. Don't hear too many Gabe cuts these days. Funny how you can suddenly coach when you have talent to use.

Also funny how someone can look great with all stars and hofers around them but the minute they have a couple all stars and avg joes they look like the manager they were before they went to said club that loaded them with talent. 

 

[DJackson10]

The talent part is even arguable. The masses had the Giants as the 3rd best in that division yet they’re smashing the league. We just have a #### ton of cavemen over here who can’t grasp any thinking that wasn’t initial thinking. 

Bottom line is when the masses lean one way here, it’s always best to go in the opposite direction even if you don’t believe it. 

Like Ben Simmons being a once in a Gen player 

Sorry I had to get one shot in there. Still one more then Ben would've taken too 

 

[Insein]

Also funny how someone can look great with all stars and hofers around them but the minute they have a couple all stars and avg joes they look like the manager they were before they went to said club that loaded them with talent. 

Manager in baseball is the most overrated head coach in pro sports. 

 

[Insein]

Like Ben Simmons being a once in a Gen player 

Sorry I had to get one shot in there. Still one more then Ben would've taken too 

I'll give you props on that one. Thought Ben would be something. He's a bum.

 

[DJackson10]

Final 53. We are thin at RB and WR but the O-line and D-line depth looks great. Considering how healthy we are I see us making some trades soon.

QB (3): Hurts, Flacco, Minshew

RB (3): Sanders, Gainwell, Scott

WR (5): Smith, Reagor, Watkins, Ward, Arcega-Whiteside

TE (4): Ertz, Goedert, Stoll, Jackson

OL (10): Mailata, Seumalo, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson, Driscoll, Dickerson, Toth, Herbig, Dillard

DL (9): Graham, Cox, Hargrave, Sweat, Barnett, Kerrigan, Tuipulotu, Jackson, Williams

LB (7): Wilson, Singleton, Avery, Taylor, Bradley, Edwards, Johnson

DB (9): Slay, Nelson, McLeod, Maddox, Harris, Epps, McPhearson, Wallace, Scott

Specialists (3): Elliott, Siposs, Lovato

Jackson on the roster right now only because if we IR'd him prior to the 53 he's out for the year. So expect him to be IR'd and probably is activated once Ertz is traded before the Deadline. It's why Stohl is on the roster too. Jackson will be eligible to come off of IR now on the 53 man roster

Shocked we only kept 3RBs but I could see them bringing a 4th one back

JJAW making it isn't surprising but the fact he and Ward made it over Hightower is annoying. 

Definitely could see a trade or 2 Maybe Dillard leaves as well. 

Gonna be interesting following the waivers and see who we might pick up and let go for that spot. 

 

[DJackson10]

Manager in baseball is the most overrated head coach in pro sports. 

To an extent yes. However they do make the pitching changes line up calls etc. so those moves are on them. The 80 Phillies from all accounts and purposes hated Dallas Green and won inspite of him. 

I didn't have a lot of major issues regarding Kapler and liked the new school approach. it just seemed a ton of the old heads "get of my lawns, we don't need replay in baseball" types hated Gabe. I'd run into a wall for Kapler. Joe Girardi on the other hand reminds me of the Italian who owns a used Cars dealership and always looking to pull a fast one on the customer. 

 

[DJackson10]

I'll give you props on that one. Thought Ben would be something. He's a bum.

Appreciate it but I'm not here to brag about that and it's been incredible hard for some of my friends to admit they were wrong on Ben. I just saw the guy in College where I knew a ton of people including a ton of radio guys and writers here barely watched a game of his. My Friend when he went into Philly Media interned under Glen MacNow at WIP (MacNow's son went to our school and a lot of us knew Glenn already) and he told us yrs ago most of these guys on radio don't watch the games all the time especially on prospects and such. They might watch the big televised broadcast of the guy but aren't going out of their way. Most will just roll with what the "experts" give ya. I'm an SEC guy for all sports (I do root for the local  teams like the big 5 to an extent especially Nova and Temple Football) but I do watch SEC basketball and saw Ben play routinely. I was just never impressed with him and he failed to dominate games a guy with his skill set should've. I always mention the one game against some no name college I had to google where it was and how he shot horrible and fouled out with 8pts. 

Also I read a Jonathan Giovani article on Ben and Ingram and there was just way too many Red Flags on Simmons. A lot of them hold true on Ben today now. Especially his immaturity and entitlement. I learned a long time ago don't just listen to the experts and go with your gut sometimes. Especially with Basketball prospects many are overhyped to begin with and then the NBA Analyst hype it up more to generate ratings for the draft and other things they air pre draft. I remember telling people though with the roster constructed Sixers need to draft Ingram not Simmons with Joel there. 

 

[modogg]

How about we give you Hurts for Vander Esch or Smith. We Upgrade the LB spot more you get your back up. Seems fair to me 

wow that is a horrendous deal for the Eagles. an oft injured LB for a dirt cheap starting QB who has shown to be a great teammate 

 

[Thunderlips]

Howard will be back.  IIRC, they as much said he will under that veteran waiver exemption thing.  I'd imagine Rodgers would be the same.  

 

[Insein]

Appreciate it but I'm not here to brag about that and it's been incredible hard for some of my friends to admit they were wrong on Ben. I just saw the guy in College where I knew a ton of people including a ton of radio guys and writers here barely watched a game of his. My Friend when he went into Philly Media interned under Glen MacNow at WIP (MacNow's son went to our school and a lot of us knew Glenn already) and he told us yrs ago most of these guys on radio don't watch the games all the time especially on prospects and such. They might watch the big televised broadcast of the guy but aren't going out of their way. Most will just roll with what the "experts" give ya. I'm an SEC guy for all sports (I do root for the local  teams like the big 5 to an extent especially Nova and Temple Football) but I do watch SEC basketball and saw Ben play routinely. I was just never impressed with him and he failed to dominate games a guy with his skill set should've. I always mention the one game against some no name college I had to google where it was and how he shot horrible and fouled out with 8pts. 

Also I read a Jonathan Giovani article on Ben and Ingram and there was just way too many Red Flags on Simmons. A lot of them hold true on Ben today now. Especially his immaturity and entitlement. I learned a long time ago don't just listen to the experts and go with your gut sometimes. Especially with Basketball prospects many are overhyped to begin with and then the NBA Analyst hype it up more to generate ratings for the draft and other things they air pre draft. I remember telling people though with the roster constructed Sixers need to draft Ingram not Simmons with Joel there. 

Problem would have been who do you take? Jaylen Brown? He's good but not a difference maker. That class kind of sucked otherwise. 

 

[rockaction]

You get to put your opinions on the policy/practice out there, but @babydemon90 doesn't get to retort? 

Welcome to Inseinity. 

 

[Insein]

Welcome to Inseinity. 

Still not paying rent. 

 

[DJackson10]

wow that is a horrendous deal for the Eagles. an oft injured LB for a dirt cheap starting QB who has shown to be a great teammate 

Running away from competition in College doesn't seem like a great teammate to me. That just tells me that guy didn't want to work for his shot 

 

[DJackson10]

Problem would have been who do you take? Jaylen Brown? He's good but not a difference maker. That class kind of sucked otherwise. 

Like I said Brandon Ingram for the team constructed would've been the move. No one in that class was amazing but Ingram has put up solid numbers and exactly what the 76ers roster needs. A player in his caliber. The Sixers other issue was they babied certain players and allowed Simmons and Joel to walk all over them. One of the issues Brown had overall was the fact he didn't agree to that philosophy so heads clashed constantly 

 

[DJackson10]

Welcome to Inseinity. 

Seriously I thought you left and said you were done here. 

 

[rockaction]

Seriously I thought you left and said you were done here. 

Gravity. 

 

[renesauz]

How is it on Wentz being an idiot when he is healthy, hasn't had a positive test and he's getting suspended for 5 days? Because of someone who probably did get the shot tested positive (which also might be a false positive). So basically the headline should read "NFL suspends 3 healthy players for 5 days due to ignorance."

wrong thread. but TLDR version: unvaccinated folks catch it 5X easier, and anyone with it can spread it without even knowing they have it.

It's a been a staple response EVERYWHERE (not just in the NFL) from early on that if you have significant exposure to someone with the virus, you isolate YOURSELF for several days until we're certain you haven't picked it up. This is NOT unique to the NFL. Anyone who refuses the vaccine is still subject to this common sense isolation....NOT JUST NFL PLAYERS. 

 

[renesauz]

By all accounts and purposes he’s been fine, no? He’s been at risk when around vaccinated people. He’s literally in this situation now because of vaccinated people lol  

And take the stupid flat earth crap down the street. This isn’t March or April 2020 anymore. We know who’s more at risk and who isn’t and it damn sure isn’t a 28 year old in great shape. That’s before you get to the fact he’s not sick and that the sickness has done NOTHING to athletes in any professional sport. 

It’s. All. Optics. 

No....it isn't. We absolutely know a healthy young man can catch it, and can spread it. Even if the risk of serious illness to that young man is low doing nothing means spreading it farther and wider, faster. You ABSOLUTELY have to isolate folks that catch it, and (temporarily) isolate folks who've been exposed. NOT UNIQUE TO THE NFL!!!

 

[The Noid]

Howard will be back.  IIRC, they as much said he will under that veteran waiver exemption thing.  I'd imagine Rodgers would be the same.  

The catch here is that these guys most likely won't be back until AFTER the first game. Technically, the team can sign them before then and they can play Week 1, but it guarantees their salary for the entire season. Anyone signed back after Week 1 doesn't get that guarantee. So if you're going to play the "cut and sign back later" game with Vets, the smart business move is to just roll with the roster you have or use your PS call-ups in Week 1 and then add them. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

“Even though the NFL's official website says 4 p.m. ET (seen below), I've confirmed that the waiver period actually ends at Noon ET today, and teams can build their practice squad an hour after that.”

 

[The Noid]

“Even though the NFL's official website says 4 p.m. ET (seen below), I've confirmed that the waiver period actually ends at Noon ET today, and teams can build their practice squad an hour after that.”

Eagles claimed no one and had none of their players claimed. And we had a pretty high waiver priority.

Practice Squad will likely have a few new faces but will probably mostly be guys they just waived. 

 

[Tom Hagen]

Howard will be back.  IIRC, they as much said he will under that veteran waiver exemption thing.  I'd imagine Rodgers would be the same.  

I assumed Rodgers would be back but with Stoll making the original roster, moving Jackson to IR and resigning Rodgers still leaves them with 4 TE which seems like a lot (unless Ertz gets traded).

 

[Deamon]

Minshew wanted to go to Philadelphia as early as this summer according to sources.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Running away from competition in College doesn't seem like a great teammate to me. That just tells me that guy didn't want to work for his shot 

What? He had already lost his job to Tua - there was no competition.

So in your mind a young man looking to make a career out of playing football should sit on the bench instead of going somewhere else where he can showcase his skills? I know you don't like "certain" QBs, that's very clear from many of your posts, but this stance is completely ridiculous. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

What? He had already lost his job to Tua - there was no competition.

So in your mind a young man looking to make a career out of playing football should sit on the bench instead of going somewhere else where he can showcase his skills? I know you don't like "certain" QBs, that's very clear from many of your posts, but this stance is completely ridiculous. 

It’s college football at Alabama. There’s always going to be competition and he could have played better than Tua. 

What Hurts did was good for his future and at the same time gave the impression he was running away from competition/soft or whatever term you want to use. Both can be true at the same time without passively calling someone a racist. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Hightower, Fulgham, and Jordan Howard back on PS.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

It’s college football at Alabama. There’s always going to be competition and he could have played better than Tua. 

What Hurts did was good for his future and at the same time gave the impression he was running away from competition/soft or whatever term you want to use. Both can be true at the same time without passively calling someone a racist. 

There's nothing soft about it. He had already lost the job and wanted to pursue his career. Staying at Bama would have been a terrible decision.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

It’s college football at Alabama. There’s always going to be competition and he could have played better than Tua. 

What Hurts did was good for his future and at the same time gave the impression he was running away from competition/soft or whatever term you want to use. Both can be true at the same time without passively calling someone a racist. 

Let's put it this way. If you got passed over for a big promotion at work - and another company offered you that same position are you going to show how tough you are and what a great leader you are by staying at your old company?

It's a ridiculous to call some kid soft for doing what was best for his career.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Let's put it this way. If you got passed over for a big promotion at work - and another company offered you that same position are you going to show how tough you are and what a great leader you are by staying at your old company?

It's a ridiculous to call some kind soft for doing what was best for his career.

No need for the poor analogy. These guys are in a competitive environment at a competitive  school. Just as Tua beat out Hurts he could have also done the same. As soon as he lost the grip he ran off. Why didn’t Tua run off after his freshman year? Why did he take the approach of outworking Hurts for his job? 

As I said before, it can be seen as soft and still a good move for his career. 

 

[need2know]

No need for the poor analogy. These guys are in a competitive environment at a competitive  school. Just as Tua beat out Hurts he could have also done the same. As soon as he lost the grip he ran off. Why didn’t Tua run off after his freshman year? Why did he take the approach of outworking Hurts for his job? 

As I said before, it can be seen as soft and still a good move for his career. 

He didn't run off as soon as he lost it.  He stayed a whole year behind tua

 

[Dr. Octopus]

No need for the poor analogy. These guys are in a competitive environment at a competitive  school. Just as Tua beat out Hurts he could have also done the same. As soon as he lost the grip he ran off. Why didn’t Tua run off after his freshman year? Why did he take the approach of outworking Hurts for his job? 

As I said before, it can be seen as soft and still a good move for his career. 

It's only a poor analogy because it doesn't fit your narrative. This isn't just a game for these guys. It's their source of future income. Hurts didn't just give up. He went somewhere else and proved his worth - that's soft to you?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

It's only a poor analogy because it doesn't fit your narrative. This isn't just a game for these guys. It's their source of future income. Hurts didn't just give up. He went somewhere else and proved his worth - that's soft to you?

To me, no but I can totally understand that thought and it’s in no way “ridiculous”. It’s cool when college kids do it, when pros do it they’re what, exactly? Soft or scared of the competition….

And my narrative is that I see both sides lol. Yours was it’s ridiculous and racist….

 

[Tom Hagen]

To me, no but I can totally understand that thought and it’s in no way “ridiculous”. It’s cool when college kids do it, when pros do it they’re what, exactly? Soft or scared of the competition….

And my narrative is that I see both sides lol

All 3 QBs on the Eagles roster transferred colleges.  They must like them soft. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

To me, no but I can totally understand that thought and it’s in no way “ridiculous”. It’s cool when college kids do it, when pros do it they’re what, exactly? Soft or scared of the competition….

And my narrative is that I see both sides lol. Yours was it’s ridiculous and racist….

It is ridiculous to call a kid soft for doing what's best for his career - sorry. It's not like he whined and complained about being benched. He sucked it up and stayed for a year. He also did not leave the program in a bind when he decided to transfer - and I'm sure he discussed it with Saban who told him he's sticking with Tua before he made that decisionn. 

And I didn't call anyone a racist - although I did allude to a pattern I have seen over many many posts (I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed).

I do apologize for the implication, that was wrong to bring up. I guess people are free to express their opinions.

 

[Insein]

Counter point. Who cares? He's here now as a starter in the NFL. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Counter point. Who cares? He's here now as a starter in the NFL. 

Because he transferred to Oklahoma to market himself better  .

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

always love your counterpoints octopus and sometimes you're right   but u're also clearly trying to instigate a negative response. we don't need that here. let's keep it civil please.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

always love your counterpoints octopus and sometimes you're right   but u're also clearly trying to instigate a negative response. we don't need that here. let's keep it civil please.

I do not think I was doing that - but I apologized once already and I'll do so again. I'll move on.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

It is ridiculous to call a kid soft for doing what's best for his career - sorry. It's not like he whined and complained about being benched. He sucked it up and stayed for a year. He also did not leave the program in a bind when he decided to transfer - and I'm sure he discussed it with Saban who told him he's sticking with Tua before he made that decisionn. 

-20 year olds are grown ups to me, not kids. 

-I have no clue if he whined or complained. Neither do you. 

-There are zero points for staying a year or leaving a team in a bind either. It’s fine he did what’s best for himself. I’m not awarding extra credit for not leaving them in a bind at Alabama lol

-We also have no clue what he discussed with Saban. 

If a 20 year old basketball player leaves Minnesota to go to the Lakers to “showcase his skills and do what’s best for his career” what do many say about him? 

The notion that it’s ridiculous to criticize someone over this is what’s actually ridiculous. It’s fairly common to have this reaction whether you agree with it or not. Again, I totally understand both sides and I don’t hold any of this against him BTW. 
 

IMO this isn’t much different than what Wentz did. It was met with a ton of negative reaction and I get both sides. It does come off as soft and at the same time is best for his career  

And I didn't call anyone a racist - although I did allude to a pattern I have seen over many many posts (I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed).

Dude….you’re doing it right now lol. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

always love your counterpoints octopus and sometimes you're right   but u're also clearly trying to instigate a negative response. we don't need that here. let's keep it civil please.

To be fair, DJax does bring that out in people lol

 

[Dr. Octopus]

-20 year olds are grown ups to me, not kids. 

-I have no clue if he whined or complained. Neither do you. 

-There are zero points for staying a year or leaving a team in a bind either. It’s fine he did what’s best for himself. I’m not awarding extra credit for not leaving them in a bind at Alabama lol

-We also have no clue what he discussed with Saban. 

If a 20 year old basketball player leaves Minnesota to go to the Lakers to “showcase his skills and do what’s best for his career” what do many say about him? 

The notion that it’s ridiculous to criticize someone over this is what’s actually ridiculous. It’s fairly common to have this reaction whether you agree with it or not. Again, I totally understand both sides and I don’t hold any of this against him BTW. 
 

IMO this isn’t much different than what Wentz did. It was met with a ton of negative reaction and I get both sides. It does come off as soft and at the same time is best for his career  

Dude….you’re doing it right now lol. 

I’m not going to argue about the “soft” issue anymore - we just disagree on that entirely.

As to your last quote. I made an observation and admitted there were some implications within that observation that I apologized for. You can do whatever you want with that.

I won’t muck up this thread anymore on this matter - it’s not really that important.

 

[The Noid]

Gardner Minshew says he's in Philadelphia to get revenge on Nick Sirianni for losing a game of H-o-r-s-e to him during a pre-draft visit to Indianapolis. Got competitive, took his shirt off, and lost. Said he was up and blamed the shirt removal.