babydemon90
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Yea, I get we've changed things up, but we haven't played a competent QB since week 9 when we held Justin Herbert to 0 punts.
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2021 Philadelphia Eagles - Queued up a playlist of our greatest zits throughout the season for final game (2 Viewers)
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dhockster
Footballguy
I have to give Lurie credit in picking coaches. All 5 of his coaching hires have made the playoffs. Breakdown of each coach:
Rhodes:
Rhodes:
- 2 winning seasons out of 4
- 2 playoff seasons out of 4
- 9 winning season out of 14
- 9 playoff seasons out of 14
- 2 winnings seasons out of 3
- 1 playoff season out of 3
- 3 winning seasons out of 5
- 3 playoff seasons out of 5
- 1 winning season out of 1
- 1 playoff season out of 1
- 17 winning seasons out of 27
- 16 playoff seasons out of 27
- 1 Superbowl win
- 2 Superbowl appearances
- 6 Conference championship appearances
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I agree. This is one of those things that WIP will forget next season when they set expectations. Even though we have 9 wins/maybe 10 this doesn’t feel like a 9-10 win team. With all that being said if we add the right pieces next season we definitely could be right back in the playoffs
Insein
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
What’s more spectacular is that the ones that flamed out the fastest (Chip and Rhodes) were the ones who were not considered a “reach” at the time. There was so much bad press behind the Reid, Doug and Sirianni hires.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
After allowing 16 points and blanking a team in the second half at that. It was crazy since everyone was going bananas at the half and we only had 7 points scored lol
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
good points, also impressive that a lot of these coaches weren't the top one's on the market at the time. I do believe Howie was involved with a lot of the coaching stuff too, so he should get at least a pat on the back for assisting with it.
the asst. coach run has been pretty good too. i guess most of that comes from head coaches though, but the tree that Reid created is impressive.
lo should get credit for cutting bait when they do (Chip Kelly), while also not shuffling through coaches like some franchises who change coaches every year or 2.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Its b/c difference of style, and honestly he showed he is green. The guy last week blitzed this same QB all game long and couldn't get anything done. We sit back and let the guy run around, complete literally his first 8 passes. Scheme I like, level of aggression not at all. Defensive history of Eagles, a good D is not one that sits back and waits, we win when we attack. Just trying to understand it, but listening to the radio, reading twitter this seems to be the crux of the argument "he ain't it"
modogg
Footballguy
man, i am so glad i am not tied into sports radio anymore.
i have to still give Kudos to "Birds with Friends" because they do seem to give the most rational and informed calls with game assessments. they made a good point on their podcast last night about how Kerrigan got playing time (maybe because Barnett was out with COVID protocol most of the week) and how the d got torched whenever kerrigan was on the field.
modogg
Footballguy
personell is a big call too. the DL needs stronger depth, but with some of the guys being real young maybe they will get their next year. not sure how much Cox has left, and i hope they go DL with one of their picks if they keep all 3 1st rounders next year (which i can hope they don't and trade one away or for future pick)
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Terpman22
Footballguy
The Noid
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And this thing where it takes him a half of seeing the opponent play before adjusting and reacting to it is not sustainable (or the makings of a coach that preps well.)
modogg
Footballguy
kind of agree that they need to figure out why the 1st half performances seem to not be going so well. not sure why, but maybe it is a little bit of prep. good news at least is that it was offense bad performance a week ago, and defense last night, so maybe they have worked some of it out
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
In addition to the above the guy simply needs more time. This is the same group (minus Nelson) that Swartz had and our defense has allowed 80 less points so far. I know the schedule again but he’s doing what he’s supposed to do against the bad teams. It’s not like these poor teams are crapping on us.
Given the age of the staff there’s a lot of green but I do think any scheme needs players to fit it. I can’t remember a time that our DB’s have looked to good. Prior to Taylor getting hurt him and Edwards seemed to really be playing well too. While the DL starts games slow they have finished strong for a while now.
As far as blitzing, the top 10 teams that blitz the most are, Tampa, Miami, Carolina, Arizona, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Washington, KC, Denver and Pittsburgh. As you can see that’s a pretty mixed bag.
The bottom 10 are, Vegas, Philly, Texans, Colts, Titans, SF, Cincy, Packers, Saints, Bears and Browns. As you can see, another mixed bag. It’s hard to say who’s right and what should be happening IMO and it’s so early for Gannon
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I agree with the prep but not so much on how sustainable it is. Some coaches are great at making adjustments once they see what you’re trying to do. Obviously we’d like to see it faster though.
The prep will really get us into trouble in the playoffs though. Can’t have us down 21 at the half.
Terpman22
Footballguy
I agree here. I'm in. I am hoping he can grow and learn. I expected him to be able to help develop our DB's due to his past and Slay is on track as an ALL PRO and A Maddox has looked the best he ever has. Losing BG is a big L we might still forget about.
With that said, I would LOVE to see more blitzing, esp if we are expected against Brady and TB round 1.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
One of Seth Joyner's complaints yesterday was that this defense doesn't disguise its coverage. What the QB reads pre-snap is exactly what he gets. So no pressure, no disguise.
Insein
Footballguy
That's my biggest beef with it. That hasn't changed all year. If Heineken can come out like an all pro for a half, then Brady is going to throw 25/25 for 300 and 3 TDs in the first half. We can't dig ourselves a hole and then just expect us to crawl out of it every time.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Around 35% of the Eagles' cap space in 2021 was locked up in dead money (players not on the team who still count toward the cap). The previous highs for teams making the playoffs, according to @Jason_OTC's recollection, were DAL and CAR in 2014, who both had around 20%
babydemon90
Footballguy
Which is also a bad take. The defense needs players. Losing Taylor hurt, he was starting to round into form. But we need to spend 2 of these first rounders on some defense players, our DLine is shaky. Gannon isnt going to turn Barnett into a good player, or keep Cox from showing his age. Sweat and Milton have some promise, but we need help.
babydemon90
Footballguy
I mean other teams coaches are also doing work throwing in new wrinkles and figuring how to attack the Eagles defense.... Quality adjustments at halftime are a positive.
Insein
Footballguy
Not necessarily. Yea we need talent but the scheme is so basic in the first half. G Cobb was saying they're playing zone but they stand at a spot and wait for the catch to happen instead of moving to the player when they enter your zone.
need2know
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I didn’t notice it the first time, but after the gate fell, an NFL Films cameraman kicked one of the people that fell.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Has DJax explained how a guy he doesn't even view as a quarterback was able to make that 3rd and 14 completion to Greg Ward that broke Washtington yet?
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I don't believe he's checked in since the Eagles won or locked up a playoff spot.
Possibly related, as heard on WIP Hurts will be the youngest QB in Eagles history to start a playoff game.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
As amazing a play as that was I was equally as impressed him the 4th down pitch where he got his foot caught and still got a good toss off.
We can question his QB skills but he has a certain “clutch” about him.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Terpman22
Footballguy
Jalen is a playmaker. Still not perfect QB out there, so we are still searching for it, but man he keeps making the right plays at the right time. Doesn't go crazy and knock stuff over, and isn't passive either. Just an even keel guy, and I'll say it over and over, the players LOVE him.
modogg
Footballguy
i noticed this a lot last year with his teammates loving him. the praies he was getting through the turmoil was significant. and i think he won a bunch more over the off-season, Lane Johnson was really happy with him with his commitment in the off-season and working out with the OL.
and his even keel is good. when he has a bad series or 2, it is easy for many to get on him right away. it is great that he has shaken that off, and comes out with a fresh slate the next drive. i was at the Chargers game earlier this year and there was some d-bag 2 rows in front of me yelling how bad Hurts was. luckily some other fans chipped in to let him know he was not in the right stadium. reminded me of the calls for Kevin Kolb during the McNabb years.
what is great is really comparing the Hurt from the first 1-2 games of the season to now. really wish i could take the time and just dissect the film from each and make the concrete examples of how much he has improved. he has taken the feedback needed and that is the key to a QB who can be successful in the league. i also wonder if that is the big piece that Carson was missing
The Noid
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Amused to Death said:
I'm still not sold on Gannon, but it was the wrong day for this take.
Jonathan Gannon Expanding HIs Packages
Now, the fact that he didn't do any of that until the second half is still a problem...
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I think the big pieces Carson was missing was a new HC and running game. Doug had no issues calling 40+ passing attempts when the world knew he had no business doing it. You’re seeing a coach and staff now that seem to have fully bought into using their players to the best of their abilities. You very rarely see the ‘square peg/round hole’ approach.
Good stuff!
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Roughly a dozen #Eagles players – including Fletcher Cox, Dallas Goedert and Jason Kelce – tested positive for COVID-19 today, sources tell me and @MikeGarafolo.
Based on updated COVID protocols, they all have a chance to be cleared in time for Saturday’s game vs. the #Cowboys.
Based on updated COVID protocols, they all have a chance to be cleared in time for Saturday’s game vs. the #Cowboys.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Terpman22
Footballguy
Honestly for real! Ok everyone, stay away, get healthy over these next 2 weeks!
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
The Eagles have placed LB Genard Avery, DT Fletcher Cox, S Marcus Epps, TE Dallas Goedert, G Nate Herbig, RB Jordan Howard, C Jason Kelce, CB Avonte Maddox, S Rodney McLeod, RB Boston Scott, LB Alex Singleton, and TE Jack Stoll on the Reserve/COVID-19 list.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Imagine going into a playoff game without these guys. This couldn't have happened at a better time. Let these guys hang with Jalen, Miles and slim this evening just to lock everyone into being cleared come playoffs.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Insein said:
Shows how avg the bottom half of the WC is in the NFC.
DJackson10
Footballguy
babydemon90 said:
depends on the scenarios, who's the QB among other things. Would've been really interested with Schwartz leaving who Doug would've made DC or does he bring in a guy from the outside. Is Hurts or Wentz starting? which Doug Pederson are we getting? A burnt out Version of Doug or the fun loving "lets get some ice cream" after meetings and practice guy? A lot to take in here. I think the Eagles held through injuries better this year but the schedule was also much easier this year as well. Do we take Devonta with our pick?
DJackson10
Footballguy
dhockster said:
Totally different team and Id trust Nick Foles with us in a shootout before I trust Jalen Hurts arm in a shootout. However I hate to agree with him but no matter who's at QB for TB we don't seem to win.
The Noid
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theory: Teams can only call up 2 practice squad guys per game, but no limit on COVID replacements. If, say, a team were looking to rest as many players as possible, a bunch of them could report they were a close contact or were showing symptoms, go on the COVID list, and be in no hurry to try to test out or report they are symptom free before the next game. Then, you could call up the whole 16 member PS. If they were to later test positive at another point in the season/playoffs, there's no restriction to going on the COVID list again (see: Wentz, Carson.)
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DJackson10
Footballguy
unckeyherb said:
We didn't even deserve to lose by 6 that game. it was embarrassing. Hurts wasn't over 75 yds till late in the 2nd half duding garbage time when the Eagles made more of a game of it than it really was. TB could've easily beaten us by 20 or more that night. Hurts and the offense did their usually stutter for 2 1/2 QTRs only to turn it on when the game was out of reach and make the numbers look respectable.
TB is missing out on those guys sure but they are still head and shoulders above us. Also good luck to us getting any calls in TB during a playoff game. Expect a lot of one sided calls. I mean look at all the illegal contact and Def Holding TB got away with in the SB. Honestly TB is one of the last teams I want the Eagles to face in the playoffs.
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