2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (13 Viewers)

[msudaisy26]

NY is one of the handful of actual free agent destinations in the league.

How many notable free agents have the Knicks signed? And they play in MSG.

I'm a Knicks hater but I don't understand why they can't get top FAs. A player who led them to even 1 title would make huge $ off it for the rest of his life.

Oakley was a Knick and loved in the city and the owner booted him from the arena for life.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Cruel business

 

[ShamrockPride]

Nets immediately off and running. 1-0 since the Brooklyn Massacre. Dinwiddie looked solid.

 

[BassNBrew]

I got curious after last night to look at where Lebron might end up all time in some other stats so I took a look and made some estimates. Here you go. Lebron in bold, the highest (or nearest) active player in italics.

Seasons
Vince Carter – 22 2. Garnett/Nowitzki/Parish/Willis – 21; 3. James/Haslem/Kareem/Kobe/Crawford – 20

This one is pretty self-explanatory – in 24-25, he’ll tie Carter for most seasons played, in 25-26, he’ll have the most seasons ever under his belt. Even as players are generally playing longer, hitting 20 seasons is going to be very rare.

Games
Parish – 1611; 2. Kareem – 1560; 3. Carter – 1541; 4. Nowitzki – 1522; 5. Stockton – 1504; 10. James – 1410; 42. Iguodala – 1226

Estimate: End of 22-23 – 1430 (9th all time); End of 23-24 – 1492 (6); End of 24-25 – 1554 (3); end of 25-26 – 1616 (1)

He can’t pass Parish until 25-26 – depending on games played each season, it could happen as soon as the first quarter of the 25-26 season. If he is exceedingly healthy next season, he could pass Stockton for #5. With the incredible health Lebron has had, the current league climate with rest, and the fact that there are no preps-to-pros players right now, there is nobody else currently playing that has any chance to top Lebron unless he retires after this season.

Minutes
Kareem – 57,446; 2. Malone – 54,852; 3. James – 53,742; 33. Paul – 41,009

Estimate: End of 22-23 – 54,462 (3); End of 23-24 – 56,570 (2); End of 24-25 – 58,430 (1)

Depending on how healthy he is this year and next, he has an outside chance of passing Kareem next year but it’ll take 36 mpg and playing all but 6 games through next season. Otherwise, likely to be toward the beginning of the 24-25 seasons. It would take over 41 mpg in all remaining 27 games to pass Malone for #2 this season. Like games played, I don't think anybody will ever touch Lebron's ultimate minutes record.

Assists
Stockton – 15,806; 2. Kidd 12,091; 3.Paul 11,283; 4. James 10,354

Estimate: End of 22-23 – 10,494 (4); End of 23-24 – 10,866 (4); End of 24-25 – 11,207 (4); end of 25-26 – 11,517 (3 or 4)

Lebron’s APG has tapered off a bit over the last few years. It’s possible that he picks up his average to move a little higher on this list, but I’m guessing he finishes his career at either #3 (if Paul either retires this season or after next season if he struggles through an injury plagued season) or right where he is at now. Westbrook is currently #10 all time with 9002, but I doubt he’ll get the combination of seasons and minutes to pass either Paul or Lebron. Other than Westbrook, Young and maaaybe Doncic have a chance to get to the 10k+ assist level - Haliburton might be a dark horse. Nobody is ever catching Stockton.

Rebounds
Wilt – 23,924; 5. Gilmore – 16,330; 10. Garnett – 14,662; 20. Barkley – 12,546; 30. Schayes – 11, 256; 35. James 10,584; 43. DeAndre Jordan – 10,305

Estimate: End of 22-23 – 10,753 (34); End of 23-24 – 11,218(31); End of 24-25 – 11,621 (26); end of 25-26 – 11,962 (24 – passing Rodman)

Efficiency and a relative lack of pace (as opposed to 50 years ago) is making this an impossible stat to compete with in the current NBA. I might have too much regression in his rebounding (I could see this stat growing on a per minute basis as he plays closer to the rim offensively and defensively), but even if he plays more games, more minutes, and maintains or even increases his reb/36, he’s probably looking closer to 20th all time. Currently, Gobert is at 7656 and Jokic is at 5987 - those are the only two in the league that I would even consider betting on passing Lebron with rebounds.

Steals
Stockton – 3265; 2. Kidd – 2684; 3. Jordan – 2514; 4. Paul – 2504; 5. Payton – 2445; 10. James – 2179

Estimate: End of 22-23 – 2199 (10); End of 23-24 – 2252 (9); End of 24-25 – 2295 (8); end of 25-26 – 2332 (6)

Lebron has no chance at ever getting higher than 6th unless he plays either into 26-27 and his average doesn’t slip much, or plays into 27-28 with more age-related regression. Paul will pass Jordan this year and will likely pass Kidd if he can play two more seasons. Passing Lebron will be very difficult for anybody currently in the league, passing Paul will be nearly impossible. Some players that are kinda sorta trending to making it a possibility - Haliburton, Edwards, LaMelo Ball... Nobody currently with more than 500 steals is a combination of prolific enough and young enough to get close.

Turnovers
1. James – 4926; 2. Malone - 4524; 3. Westbrook - 4372

Already #1! If he plays to 25-26, he should end up in the 5400-5500 range. Westbrook won’t play long enough to catch him but Doncic has an outside chance of catching him some day if he plays long enough and continues to average +/- 4 turnovers per game.

Ultimate compiler.

 

[jobarules]

You people who think Brooklyn is a top FA draw are out of your mind

Yeah, they only had two of the best free agents sign there a couple of years ago when they weren't that good and all the buyout candidates were taking less to go there.

That was a one time fluke that will never happen again. Nobody in NYC gives two ****s about the Nets.

 

[jobarules]

NY is one of the handful of actual free agent destinations in the league.

How many notable free agents have the Knicks signed? And they play in MSG.

I'm a Knicks hater but I don't understand why they can't get top FAs. A player who led them to even 1 title would make huge $ off it for the rest of his life.

Knicks just never have the cap space to do so

 

[jhib]

Nets immediately off and running. 1-0 since the Brooklyn Massacre. Dinwiddie looked solid.

And it's actually fun to root for them again.

 

[msudaisy26]

You people who think Brooklyn is a top FA draw are out of your mind

Yeah, they only had two of the best free agents sign there a couple of years ago when they weren't that good and all the buyout candidates were taking less to go there.

That was a one time fluke that will never happen again. Nobody in NYC gives two ****s about the Nets.

Name me the teams that have draw 2 huge free agents like that in the last decade? The list is about 6 teams and the Nets are one of them.

 

[jobarules]

You people who think Brooklyn is a top FA draw are out of your mind

Yeah, they only had two of the best free agents sign there a couple of years ago when they weren't that good and all the buyout candidates were taking less to go there.

That was a one time fluke that will never happen again. Nobody in NYC gives two ****s about the Nets.

Name me the teams that have draw 2 huge free agents like that in the last decade? The list is about 6 teams and the Nets are one of them.

You're talking about the two biggest lunatics in the NBA right?

 

[thecatch]

NY is one of the handful of actual free agent destinations in the league.

How many notable free agents have the Knicks signed? And they play in MSG.

I'm a Knicks hater but I don't understand why they can't get top FAs. A player who led them to even 1 title would make huge $ off it for the rest of his life.

Knicks just never have the cap space to do so

The Knicks had the cap space to sign Kyrie and Durant the summer those guys signed with the Nets.

 

[jobarules]

NY is one of the handful of actual free agent destinations in the league.

How many notable free agents have the Knicks signed? And they play in MSG.

I'm a Knicks hater but I don't understand why they can't get top FAs. A player who led them to even 1 title would make huge $ off it for the rest of his life.

Knicks just never have the cap space to do so

The Knicks had the cap space to sign Kyrie and Durant the summer those guys signed with the Nets.

Again you're talking about a guy who has ALWAYS shied away from the spotlight. Never in a million years would Durant ever goto a big team like the Knicks. Then once he decided Irving followed because they were a package deal. This was a special circumstance.

Nets might as well be a minor league team in NYC compared to the Knicks.

The 4-time scoring champ admitted he wanted to live in New York, but made it clear that he didn’t want all of the added spotlight that came with playing for the Knicks in Madison Square Garden. He found the Nets an appealing alternative as early as February 2019.

“I didn’t want to be the savior of the Knicks or New York,” Durant said. “I didn’t care about being the king of New York. That never really moved me. I didn’t care about being on Broadway. I just wanted to play ball and go to the crib and chill. And that’s what Brooklyn embodied.”

 

[thecatch]

NY is one of the handful of actual free agent destinations in the league.

How many notable free agents have the Knicks signed? And they play in MSG.

I'm a Knicks hater but I don't understand why they can't get top FAs. A player who led them to even 1 title would make huge $ off it for the rest of his life.

Knicks just never have the cap space to do so

The Knicks had the cap space to sign Kyrie and Durant the summer those guys signed with the Nets.

Again you're talking about a guy who has ALWAYS shied away from the spotlight. Never in a million years would Durant ever goto a big team like the Knicks. Then once he decided Irving followed because they were a package deal. This was a special circumstance.

Nets might as well be a minor league team in NYC compared to the Knicks.

The 4-time scoring champ admitted he wanted to live in New York, but made it clear that he didn’t want all of the added spotlight that came with playing for the Knicks in Madison Square Garden. He found the Nets an appealing alternative as early as February 2019.

“I didn’t want to be the savior of the Knicks or New York,” Durant said. “I didn’t care about being the king of New York. That never really moved me. I didn’t care about being on Broadway. I just wanted to play ball and go to the crib and chill. And that’s what Brooklyn embodied.”

So you're admitting you were wrong about the cap space thing, and you're just going to keep moving the goalposts around. Got it.

 

[Jayrod]

Sorry, but Brooklyn is a very cool place to be. Being part of NY, but not in Manhattan has MASSIVE appeal. It is the East coast version of the Clippers.

The ability to be near the action, but not have as much pressure plus being able to be the greatest player ever for a franchise has a very strong appeal to certain personalities, like KD and Kawhi.

 

[jobarules]

NY is one of the handful of actual free agent destinations in the league.

How many notable free agents have the Knicks signed? And they play in MSG.

I'm a Knicks hater but I don't understand why they can't get top FAs. A player who led them to even 1 title would make huge $ off it for the rest of his life.

Knicks just never have the cap space to do so

The Knicks had the cap space to sign Kyrie and Durant the summer those guys signed with the Nets.

Again you're talking about a guy who has ALWAYS shied away from the spotlight. Never in a million years would Durant ever goto a big team like the Knicks. Then once he decided Irving followed because they were a package deal. This was a special circumstance.

Nets might as well be a minor league team in NYC compared to the Knicks.

The 4-time scoring champ admitted he wanted to live in New York, but made it clear that he didn’t want all of the added spotlight that came with playing for the Knicks in Madison Square Garden. He found the Nets an appealing alternative as early as February 2019.

“I didn’t want to be the savior of the Knicks or New York,” Durant said. “I didn’t care about being the king of New York. That never really moved me. I didn’t care about being on Broadway. I just wanted to play ball and go to the crib and chill. And that’s what Brooklyn embodied.”

So you're admitting you were wrong about the cap space thing, and you're just going to keep moving the goalposts around. Got it.

Lmao did they not just sign Brunson this off-season? What on earth you talking about? I've not once moved goal posts. Said Durant and Irving were a special case.

 

[jobarules]

Sorry, but Brooklyn is a very cool place to be. Being part of NY, but not in Manhattan has MASSIVE appeal. It is the East coast version of the Clippers.

The ability to be near the action, but not have as much pressure plus being able to be the greatest player ever for a franchise has a very strong appeal to certain personalities, like KD and Kawhi.

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

 

[jobarules]

Guys Knicks are a **** franchise too but the Nets are way below them. Everyone in NY area knows this. I don't know a single Nets fan.

 

[thecatch]

NY is one of the handful of actual free agent destinations in the league.

How many notable free agents have the Knicks signed? And they play in MSG.

I'm a Knicks hater but I don't understand why they can't get top FAs. A player who led them to even 1 title would make huge $ off it for the rest of his life.

Knicks just never have the cap space to do so

The Knicks had the cap space to sign Kyrie and Durant the summer those guys signed with the Nets.

Again you're talking about a guy who has ALWAYS shied away from the spotlight. Never in a million years would Durant ever goto a big team like the Knicks. Then once he decided Irving followed because they were a package deal. This was a special circumstance.

Nets might as well be a minor league team in NYC compared to the Knicks.

The 4-time scoring champ admitted he wanted to live in New York, but made it clear that he didn’t want all of the added spotlight that came with playing for the Knicks in Madison Square Garden. He found the Nets an appealing alternative as early as February 2019.

“I didn’t want to be the savior of the Knicks or New York,” Durant said. “I didn’t care about being the king of New York. That never really moved me. I didn’t care about being on Broadway. I just wanted to play ball and go to the crib and chill. And that’s what Brooklyn embodied.”

So you're admitting you were wrong about the cap space thing, and you're just going to keep moving the goalposts around. Got it.

Lmao did they not just sign Brunson this off-season? What on earth you talking about? I've not once moved goal posts. Said Durant and Irving were a special case.

You literally just said the reason the Knicks didn't sign major FAs is because they "never have the cap space to do so."

 

[Spartans Rule]

Sorry, but Brooklyn is a very cool place to be. Being part of NY, but not in Manhattan has MASSIVE appeal. It is the East coast version of the Clippers.

The ability to be near the action, but not have as much pressure plus being able to be the greatest player ever for a franchise has a very strong appeal to certain personalities, like KD and Kawhi.

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

I don't doubt that, but it has zero effect on the Nets' ability to sign free agents. NBA stars want to live in cool cities and play with other stars. They don't care what the average Joe in Brooklyn thinks about the team.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

That was way too many words written about 2nd round picks when they can be bought with Kohl's Cash. I don't know how you guys do it

 

[GordonGekko]

NY is one of the handful of actual free agent destinations in the league.

How many notable free agents have the Knicks signed? And they play in MSG.

I'm a Knicks hater but I don't understand why they can't get top FAs. A player who led them to even 1 title would make huge $ off it for the rest of his life.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/draft.html

Let's look at the "post Decision era" since it incorporated many sweeping changes in the CBA. No first round picks in 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016. Both Shumpert and Porzingis got hurt. Both along with Tim Hardaway Jr were traded before their rookie contracts were over.

Both Frank Ntilikina (2017) and Kevin Knox (2018) were indisputable busts. Obi Toppin ( 2020) is hovering into bust territory. I'd call him more along the lines of a "wasted pick" instead. ( i.e. has some uses, but was way overdrafted and didn't align with practical league trends nor the veteran coach and his playing style)

The combination of Zeke Thomas and Phil Jackson drove the franchise into the ground. During the limbo stage between the two, Dolan managed to vastly overpay for Carmelo Anthony and Amare Stoudamire, trade for Bargnani and entirely screwed up the Jeremy Lin situation. Jackson grossly overpaid Courtney Lee, Joachim Noah and Lance Thomas. He insisted on pushing the Triangle Offense onto the team when none of the personnel could run it. He demanded Derek Fisher be the head coach, despite having no experience. He gave Melo a No Trade Clause. Zeke made catastrophic move after move. Trading the picks that would end up being Gordon Hayward, LaMarcus Aldridge and young Noah. Overpaying Eddy Curry and Jared Jeffries. Getting Marbury and Steve Francis. Selling low on Zach Randolph. Dumped Trevor Ariza, Marcus Camby and Nene far too early.

James Dolan could have made it real simple. Hire a young front office prospect from the Spurs, Thunder or Jazz or one of the more successful teams at the time. Then let him pick a coach and get out of his way. Just how stupid do you have to be to spend DECADES hiring aging egomaniacs who have never run a successful front office before? ( I guess Zeke had some time with the young Raptors but that wasn't all pleasant either)

Start hitting on your draft picks ( which to start, you need to stop trading them off) and don't sign and overpay clearly deficient free agents and when you build a pretty good young core, and have cap space, and some stability, then if a prime FA comes to the market in an offseason, your franchise looks more enticing.

If you were a difference making FA, you know which franchise is looking damn good right now? Memphis. Would anyone say that 10 years ago? But they cleaned up their front office, their scouting, their analytics and started really hitting on picks, making good moves and got good mileage out of their back of the rotation guys.

OK when Durant was a free agent, and if the Knicks had the current Grizzlies situation ( Morant, Bane, JJJ, and a deep bench with Tillman, Konchar, Jones, Clarke, Ziaire Williams, etc, etc ) plus if they had enough cap space to give him the max, do you think he'd be saying the same thing about New York that he did?

 

[GordonGekko]

That was way too many words written about 2nd round picks when they can be bought with Kohl's Cash. I don't know how you guys do it

When Dallas drafted Luka Doncic, he was still under contract with Real Madrid.

Had Dallas spent it's annual "cash allotment" on balancing out salary matching for a trade or purchasing a 2nd round pick, they'd have no money left to get Doncic released from his previous obligation. The cash allotment is the ONLY CBA approved source of funds an NBA team can use to buy out a foreign contract.

Had Dallas burned their allotment out, they'd be forced to wait an entire full season LATER to get Doncic into a Mavericks uniform. Think about the staggering loss that would be to Dallas as a franchise and the entire NBA as a whole, to have to wait one more year for Luka to show up and be a superstar.

The trope that "useful" 2nd round picks are sold often or it's common to do so is not reality. The same reason a team might want to sell a 2nd rounder encompasses the EXACT same reasons why another team has no interest in buying one. The Warriors using their entire allotment for Jordan Bell was a pretty unique situation. Can you get a 2nd rounder at a good price? Sure, if it's pick 50-60. Somewhere in that range. Why would a team sell it? Because anyone they pick won't likely pan out and they might as well try to get the same player as an UDFA anyway.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Sorry, but Brooklyn is a very cool place to be. Being part of NY, but not in Manhattan has MASSIVE appeal. It is the East coast version of the Clippers.

The ability to be near the action, but not have as much pressure plus being able to be the greatest player ever for a franchise has a very strong appeal to certain personalities, like KD and Kawhi.

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

How old are you? The Nets only moved to Brooklyn 10 years ago. I’m sure people in Brooklyn didn’t care about a team playing in New Jersey.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

NY is one of the handful of actual free agent destinations in the league.

How many notable free agents have the Knicks signed? And they play in MSG.

I'm a Knicks hater but I don't understand why they can't get top FAs. A player who led them to even 1 title would make huge $ off it for the rest of his life.

Knicks just never have the cap space to do so

The Knicks had the cap space to sign Kyrie and Durant the summer those guys signed with the Nets.

Yes, they were trying to sign those guys as well.

 

[Major]

Sorry, but Brooklyn is a very cool place to be. Being part of NY, but not in Manhattan has MASSIVE appeal. It is the East coast version of the Clippers.

The ability to be near the action, but not have as much pressure plus being able to be the greatest player ever for a franchise has a very strong appeal to certain personalities, like KD and Kawhi.

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

I think you're stuck in the 80/90s and thinking about those Nets. There's a new wave of Nets fans and being in BK surely helps their appeal. An East coast version of the Clippers is a good comp.

 

[jobarules]

A new wave of Nets fans

Guys l live in one of the boroughs. Nobody is a Nets fan

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Obviously the Knicks are the more popular team in New York City - there’s no disputing that. The Nets only moved to Brooklyn in 2012 - so most of their fan base was in New Jersey. To say there’s no Nets fans in Brooklyn/NYC is pure hyperbole though. Their games do sell out and I see people walking around in Nets gear in NYC and of course in NJ.

Even starting with the assumption that “no one in New York cares about the Nets” though, I’m still not sure how that means the Nets can never sign another free agent again.

 

[jobarules]

Obviously the Knicks are the more popular team in New York City - there’s no disputing that. The Nets only moved to Brooklyn in 2012 - so most of their fan base was in New Jersey. To say there’s no Nets fans in Brooklyn/NYC is pure hyperbole though. Their games do sell out and I see people walking around in Nets gear in NYC and of course in NJ.

Even starting with the assumption that “no one in New York cares about the Nets” though, I’m still not sure how that means the Nets can never sign another free agent again.

Speaking of hyperbole...

Did I say that?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Speaking of hyperbole...

Did I say that?

The whole conversation started with one or two people saying the Nets will never be able to sign another top free agent again. People disagreed with that and asked for explanations why that would be.

You jumped into it by saying “You people who think Brooklyn is a top FA draw are out of your mind” - which wasn’t what the discussion was, and continued on with “lols” and arguing against something that no one was arguing against. It’s obvious that the Knicks are more popular than the Nets in NYC - how does that have any relevance in the discussion as to whether the Nets will be able to draw top free agents going forward.

So what point are you making exactly?

 

[jobarules]

Speaking of hyperbole...

Did I say that?

The whole conversation started with one or two people saying the Nets will never be able to sign another top free agent again. People disagreed with that and asked for explanations why that would be.

You jumped into it by saying “You people who think Brooklyn is a top FA draw are out of your mind” - which wasn’t what the discussion was, and continued on with “lols” and arguing against something that no one was arguing against. It’s obvious that the Knicks are more popular than the Nets in NYC - how does that have any relevance in the discussion as to whether the Nets will be able to draw top free agents going forward.

So what point are you making exactly?

You're the one responding to me about stuff I didn't say

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Speaking of hyperbole...

Did I say that?

The whole conversation started with one or two people saying the Nets will never be able to sign another top free agent again. People disagreed with that and asked for explanations why that would be.

You jumped into it by saying “You people who think Brooklyn is a top FA draw are out of your mind” - which wasn’t what the discussion was, and continued on with “lols” and arguing against something that no one was arguing against. It’s obvious that the Knicks are more popular than the Nets in NYC - how does that have any relevance in the discussion as to whether the Nets will be able to draw top free agents going forward.

So what point are you making exactly?

You're the one responding to me about stuff I didn't say

Whatever, it’s all here in writing.

 

[the moops]

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

Unless you are 18 years old you grew up with the Nets having home games in New Jersey. No surprise that native New Yorkers are Knicks fans.

Also - Brooklyn is at 99.2% for attendance this year. The Knicks are at 97.1%

 

[jobarules]

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

Unless you are 18 years old you grew up with the Nets having home games in New Jersey. No surprise that native New Yorkers are Knicks fans.

Also - Brooklyn is at 99.2% for attendance this year. The Knicks are at 97.1%

Yep brooklyn way cheaper ticket.

 

[msudaisy26]

If the Knicks are so much more popular then why do they have to settle for 5th tier free agents like Jalen Brunson? It is almost as if the players don't care how popular the team is or what the fans think.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

Unless you are 18 years old you grew up with the Nets having home games in New Jersey. No surprise that native New Yorkers are Knicks fans.

Also - Brooklyn is at 99.2% for attendance this year. The Knicks are at 97.1%

Yep brooklyn way cheaper ticket.

5. Brooklyn Nets​

• Average ticket price: $242

4. New York Knicks​

• Average ticket price: $261

 

[Kev4029]

Let's just not engage @jobarules. I think it'll be much more enjoyable for everybody.

 

[msudaisy26]

Let's just not engage @jobarules. I think it'll be much more enjoyable for everybody.

You are right. I apologize.

 

[massraider]

If you are a 55 year old NYC basketball fan, you are a Knicks fan.

If you are 25 years old, why would you be?

We've been reading the same articles for 20 years about how New York Knicks are a marquee this and that, Madison Square Garden!!!$$!!!! Like it's some magical place, and not a run down arena owned by Martin Shkreli on donuts.

 

[Zigg]

Going to the Raptors v Jazz game tonight. My first NBA game in 30+ years. Really looking forward to it, but typing that makes me feel old.

Sitting in first row(not courtside). Glad there was no Raptors fire sale.

 

[jobarules]

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

Unless you are 18 years old you grew up with the Nets having home games in New Jersey. No surprise that native New Yorkers are Knicks fans.

Also - Brooklyn is at 99.2% for attendance this year. The Knicks are at 97.1%

Yep brooklyn way cheaper ticket.

5. Brooklyn Nets​

• Average ticket price: $242

4. New York Knicks​

• Average ticket price: $261

Thanks for proving my point

 

[the moops]

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

Unless you are 18 years old you grew up with the Nets having home games in New Jersey. No surprise that native New Yorkers are Knicks fans.

Also - Brooklyn is at 99.2% for attendance this year. The Knicks are at 97.1%

Yep brooklyn way cheaper ticket.

5. Brooklyn Nets​

• Average ticket price: $242

4. New York Knicks​

• Average ticket price: $261

Thanks for proving my point

That Knick fans aren't supportive of their team because they are cheap?

 

[jobarules]

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

Unless you are 18 years old you grew up with the Nets having home games in New Jersey. No surprise that native New Yorkers are Knicks fans.

Also - Brooklyn is at 99.2% for attendance this year. The Knicks are at 97.1%

Yep brooklyn way cheaper ticket.

5. Brooklyn Nets​

• Average ticket price: $242

4. New York Knicks​

• Average ticket price: $261

Thanks for proving my point

That Knick fans aren't supportive of their team because they are cheap?

I thought you weren't engaging with me

 

[Sammy3469]

If you are a 55 year old NYC basketball fan, you are a Knicks fan.

If you are 25 years old, why would you be?

We've been reading the same articles for 20 years about how New York Knicks are a marquee this and that, Madison Square Garden!!!$$!!!! Like it's some magical place, and not a run down arena owned by Martin Shkreli on donuts.

I mean not for nothing, but for the vast majority of 3 of the 5 boroughs and much of LI its much easier to get to Penn Station than Barclay's Center/Atlantic Terminal.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

Unless you are 18 years old you grew up with the Nets having home games in New Jersey. No surprise that native New Yorkers are Knicks fans.

Also - Brooklyn is at 99.2% for attendance this year. The Knicks are at 97.1%

Yep brooklyn way cheaper ticket.

5. Brooklyn Nets​

• Average ticket price: $242

4. New York Knicks​

• Average ticket price: $261

Thanks for proving my point

$19 average proved your point that tickets are WAY cheaper?

 

[jobarules]

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

Unless you are 18 years old you grew up with the Nets having home games in New Jersey. No surprise that native New Yorkers are Knicks fans.

Also - Brooklyn is at 99.2% for attendance this year. The Knicks are at 97.1%

Yep brooklyn way cheaper ticket.

5. Brooklyn Nets​

• Average ticket price: $242

4. New York Knicks​

• Average ticket price: $261

Thanks for proving my point

$19 proved your point?

Brooklyn Nets ‘dead last’ in NBA season tickets sales as prices soar: sources

The Brooklyn Nets are dead last in the NBA when it comes to season ticket sales — with demand off more than 30% from last year as the new season tips off, sources told The Post.

nypost.com

 

[jobarules]

Yep I grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody there gives a **** about the Nets. They're all Knicks fans.

Unless you are 18 years old you grew up with the Nets having home games in New Jersey. No surprise that native New Yorkers are Knicks fans.

Also - Brooklyn is at 99.2% for attendance this year. The Knicks are at 97.1%

Yep brooklyn way cheaper ticket.

5. Brooklyn Nets​

• Average ticket price: $242

4. New York Knicks​

• Average ticket price: $261

Thanks for proving my point

$19 proved your point?

$20 per ticket. Go with a family of four and now youre talking $80

 

[Dr. Octopus]

$20 per ticket. Go with a family of four and now youre talking $80

Those people are not buying courtside seats where the discrepancy in pricing is greater.

Anyway, you've been all over the place and I can't even keep up what your point is other that "the Knicks are more popular in NYC than the Nets". I'll conceded that to you and move on since you're being disingenuous in most of your responses.

 

[massraider]

Going to the Raptors v Jazz game tonight. My first NBA game in 30+ years. Really looking forward to it, but typing that makes me feel old.

Sitting in first row(not courtside).

Have you been saving up 30 years for these seats, or what's the story here?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Going to the Raptors v Jazz game tonight. My first NBA game in 30+ years. Really looking forward to it, but typing that makes me feel old.

Sitting in first row(not courtside).

Have you been saving up 30 years for these seats, or what's the story here?

He wants to see Russ on the Jazz, I'm sure.

 

[mr. furley]

If you are a 55 year old NYC basketball fan, you are a Knicks fan.

If you are 25 years old, why would you be?

We've been reading the same articles for 20 years about how New York Knicks are a marquee this and that, Madison Square Garden!!!$$!!!! Like it's some magical place, and not a run down arena owned by Martin Shkreli on donuts.

aside from a dive arena and a terrible owner, there's the cost of living and i can't imagine the associated facilities around the organization are world class.

not to mention the behind the scenes things like training table, trainers/treatment, access to trusted doctors, etc. there are a million things beyond cap space and a bad owner that go in to a player's desire to play somewhere.

 

[the moops]

and not a run down arena owned by Martin Shkreli on donuts.