2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (1 Viewer)

[the moops]

Making a commitment that if i am near this thread tonight, there will be no posts about refs, whether good or bad.

Feel like we should wager on this

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Making a commitment that if i am near this thread tonight, there will be no posts about refs, whether good or bad. I'll keep the emotional roller coaster the Sixers have taken me on since the Process began to an internal dialogue re: officiating and spare others with any mini rants/venting.

Honestly have no idea who wins this game tonight between Sixers and Celtics. Each game has been a story with-in itself, and both teams have been so up and down all series. That being said, Sixers have been pretty dominant for 7 of the last 8 quarters (game 4 OT excluded), so logic would suggest that the Sixers can remain locked in. And of course, as i type that all i can think about is all of the double digit leads pee'd away with Doc as the 76'ers head coach in the playoffs, so all betting will be in-game bets

Good luck tonight. Rooting for your team. My first b-ball obsession was the early 80s Sixers team with the Doctor, Moses, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Tony, Bobby Jones, etc.

thx. i only caught the tail end of those guys and hopped on near the Barkley rookie year. funny how that was fun back then, then they trade Barkley for peanuts and we have the 90's Sixers, headlined by my man, "the Real Shaq", Charles Shackleford. some dark days until Theo and AI came on

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

 

[Frostillicus]

Bottom-tier NBA discourse

New thread sub-title, @Capella ?

 

[Jayrod]

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

A rim attacking wing with a ton of athleticism and skill that can shoot. Dominated the ABA (3 MVP's I believe) and then stepped right in as a superstar into the NBA and won an MVP and a ring with that Sixers team...although he was older and Moses was their best player at that point.

Maybe a flashier, not quite as good on defense but actually plays full seasons Kawhi?

 

[Frostillicus]

@Capella one of your first good thread titles. Great job!

 

[modogg]

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

A rim attacking wing with a ton of athleticism and skill that can shoot. Dominated the ABA (3 MVP's I believe) and then stepped right in as a superstar into the NBA and won an MVP and a ring with that Sixers team...although he was older and Moses was their best player at that point.

Maybe a flashier, not quite as good on defense but actually plays full seasons Kawhi?

that's a pretty good one. i didn't get a chance to watch a ton of Dr. J in real time and have seen more of just the highlights from his NBA career. Glad @Jayrod shouted out his ABA accomplishments because i do believe he was a monster during his time there. He definitely had that "dawg" in him like a Jimmy Butler too, and i agree with a Kawhi type where he was good on both sides of the court

 

[Jayrod]

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

A rim attacking wing with a ton of athleticism and skill that can shoot. Dominated the ABA (3 MVP's I believe) and then stepped right in as a superstar into the NBA and won an MVP and a ring with that Sixers team...although he was older and Moses was their best player at that point.

Maybe a flashier, not quite as good on defense but actually plays full seasons Kawhi?

that's a pretty good one. i didn't get a chance to watch a ton of Dr. J in real time and have seen more of just the highlights from his NBA career. Glad @Jayrod shouted out his ABA accomplishments because i do believe he was a monster during his time there. He definitely had that "dawg" in him like a Jimmy Butler too, and i agree with a Kawhi type where he was good on both sides of the court

Jimmy was who I thought of first, but he just hasn't accomplished enough. Dr J was Magic/Bird/MJ before they arrived. Kind of the player who it was cool to root for and pattern yourself after. Saw an interview with Magic where he talked about growing up watching Dr J and trying to emulate him on the playground with his friends.

 

[SWC]

sometimes i wonder what eating lead paint chips would do to a fella and then i read this thread and im like oh i see now take that to the bank brohans

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

A rim attacking wing with a ton of athleticism and skill that can shoot. Dominated the ABA (3 MVP's I believe) and then stepped right in as a superstar into the NBA and won an MVP and a ring with that Sixers team...although he was older and Moses was their best player at that point.

Maybe a flashier, not quite as good on defense but actually plays full seasons Kawhi?

Yeah, not so sure. Kawhi has an extremely reliable outside shot….and Doc really wasn’t a particularly good shooter. That’s my biggest hesitation.

 

[offdee]

Yeah, not so sure. Kawhi has an extremely reliable outside shot….and Doc really wasn’t a particularly good shooter. That’s my biggest hesitation.

A shorter version of Giannis? Paul George?

 

[Capella]

@Capella one of your first good thread titles. Great job!

Thanks, this means a lot coming from you, the worst poster who has ever lived.

 

[msudaisy26]

@Capella one of your first good thread titles. Great job!

Thanks, this means a lot coming from you, the worst poster who has ever lived.

I am going to report @Frostillicus because of this post!

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Making a commitment that if i am near this thread tonight, there will be no posts about refs, whether good or bad. I'll keep the emotional roller coaster the Sixers have taken me on since the Process began to an internal dialogue re: officiating and spare others with any mini rants/venting.

Honestly have no idea who wins this game tonight between Sixers and Celtics. Each game has been a story with-in itself, and both teams have been so up and down all series. That being said, Sixers have been pretty dominant for 7 of the last 8 quarters (game 4 OT excluded), so logic would suggest that the Sixers can remain locked in. And of course, as i type that all i can think about is all of the double digit leads pee'd away with Doc as the 76'ers head coach in the playoffs, so all betting will be in-game bets

Good luck tonight. Rooting for your team. My first b-ball obsession was the early 80s Sixers team with the Doctor, Moses, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Tony, Bobby Jones, etc.

thx. i only caught the tail end of those guys and hopped on near the Barkley rookie year. funny how that was fun back then, then they trade Barkley for peanuts and we have the 90's Sixers, headlined by my man, "the Real Shaq", Charles Shackleford. some dark days until Theo and AI came on

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

The 2 guys that first popped in my mind are Paul George and Andrew Wiggins. Athletic, long, and quick wings that are solid defensively (and versatile defensively as they can guard 2’s, 3’s and some 4’s), that are capable using their athleticism to attack the basket, but also have ample perimeter shooting.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Yeah, not so sure. Kawhi has an extremely reliable outside shot….and Doc really wasn’t a particularly good shooter. That’s my biggest hesitation.

This is always the interesting part of these discussions because of the vast changes in the way the game was played then versus now.

We don't need to factor in any of the athletic stuff because Doc could be lifted directly from the 1970's with his significantly less knowledge on nutrition and training and still be instantly one of the best athletes in the league.

But it is worth wondering if Dr J would have been a better shooter if he grew up in todays game where all players are encouraged to heavily work on that part of their game....

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Making a commitment that if i am near this thread tonight, there will be no posts about refs, whether good or bad. I'll keep the emotional roller coaster the Sixers have taken me on since the Process began to an internal dialogue re: officiating and spare others with any mini rants/venting.

Honestly have no idea who wins this game tonight between Sixers and Celtics. Each game has been a story with-in itself, and both teams have been so up and down all series. That being said, Sixers have been pretty dominant for 7 of the last 8 quarters (game 4 OT excluded), so logic would suggest that the Sixers can remain locked in. And of course, as i type that all i can think about is all of the double digit leads pee'd away with Doc as the 76'ers head coach in the playoffs, so all betting will be in-game bets

Good luck tonight. Rooting for your team. My first b-ball obsession was the early 80s Sixers team with the Doctor, Moses, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Tony, Bobby Jones, etc.

thx. i only caught the tail end of those guys and hopped on near the Barkley rookie year. funny how that was fun back then, then they trade Barkley for peanuts and we have the 90's Sixers, headlined by my man, "the Real Shaq", Charles Shackleford. some dark days until Theo and AI came on

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

tobias harris

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Making a commitment that if i am near this thread tonight, there will be no posts about refs, whether good or bad. I'll keep the emotional roller coaster the Sixers have taken me on since the Process began to an internal dialogue re: officiating and spare others with any mini rants/venting.

Honestly have no idea who wins this game tonight between Sixers and Celtics. Each game has been a story with-in itself, and both teams have been so up and down all series. That being said, Sixers have been pretty dominant for 7 of the last 8 quarters (game 4 OT excluded), so logic would suggest that the Sixers can remain locked in. And of course, as i type that all i can think about is all of the double digit leads pee'd away with Doc as the 76'ers head coach in the playoffs, so all betting will be in-game bets

Good luck tonight. Rooting for your team. My first b-ball obsession was the early 80s Sixers team with the Doctor, Moses, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Tony, Bobby Jones, etc.

thx. i only caught the tail end of those guys and hopped on near the Barkley rookie year. funny how that was fun back then, then they trade Barkley for peanuts and we have the 90's Sixers, headlined by my man, "the Real Shaq", Charles Shackleford. some dark days until Theo and AI came on

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

tobias harris

Tobias Harris if Tobias Harris had heart and loved basketball? (Mostly kidding)

 

[the moops]

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

If defenses today sucked as bad, and his team played him more...Larry Nance Jr

 

[offdee]

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

If defenses today sucked as bad, and his team played him more...Larry Nance Jr

Not a present player, but recent player…,Vince Carter.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Making a commitment that if i am near this thread tonight, there will be no posts about refs, whether good or bad. I'll keep the emotional roller coaster the Sixers have taken me on since the Process began to an internal dialogue re: officiating and spare others with any mini rants/venting.

Honestly have no idea who wins this game tonight between Sixers and Celtics. Each game has been a story with-in itself, and both teams have been so up and down all series. That being said, Sixers have been pretty dominant for 7 of the last 8 quarters (game 4 OT excluded), so logic would suggest that the Sixers can remain locked in. And of course, as i type that all i can think about is all of the double digit leads pee'd away with Doc as the 76'ers head coach in the playoffs, so all betting will be in-game bets

Good luck tonight. Rooting for your team. My first b-ball obsession was the early 80s Sixers team with the Doctor, Moses, Mo Cheeks, Andrew Tony, Bobby Jones, etc.

thx. i only caught the tail end of those guys and hopped on near the Barkley rookie year. funny how that was fun back then, then they trade Barkley for peanuts and we have the 90's Sixers, headlined by my man, "the Real Shaq", Charles Shackleford. some dark days until Theo and AI came on

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

tobias harris

Tobias Harris if Tobias Harris had heart and loved basketball? (Mostly kidding)

I think those are the least of Tobias' problems.

 

[Yo Mama]

Zach Lavine

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

If defenses today sucked as bad, and his team played him more...Larry Nance Jr

Not a present player, but recent player…,Vince Carter.

Dr J was more skilled I think, but this isn't a bad comparison.

It's hard to think of current players who are bigger wings who put that much pressure on the rim. Honestly, when thinking of who he is like, I start more with someone like Ja Morant, but obviously Dr. J was a much better and more versatile defender.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Zach Lavine

Again, size issues, but this is the type of player that he is really closer too, I think.

 

[General Malaise]

Not to nitpick the thread title because it's one of the best bits going on this board, but I'm thinking the restaurant should be changed to Cheesecake Factory. They don't have the best food in the world, but they make up for it by giving you a BUTTLOAD of it.

 

[The Z Machine]

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

If defenses today sucked as bad, and his team played him more...Larry Nance Jr

Not a present player, but recent player…,Vince Carter.

That's who I thought of. But maybe Dr. J was a better defender.

 

[The Z Machine]

Not to nitpick the thread title because it's one of the best bits going on this board, but I'm thinking the restaurant should be changed to Cheesecake Factory. They don't have the best food in the world, but they make up for it by giving you a BUTTLOAD of it.

Eventually, you get that too. Usually about 6-12 hours afterwards.

 

[zoobird]

put that much pressure on the rim.

Skinny Lebron

 

[FatMax]

Not to nitpick the thread title because it's one of the best bits going on this board, but I'm thinking the restaurant should be changed to Cheesecake Factory. They don't have the best food in the world, but they make up for it by giving you a BUTTLOAD of it.

It's been years since I've been to either, but this seems correct if memory serves me. Motion seconded.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Luka on 1st team all NBA? I get that his squad sucked, but man, defense and winning should matter.

Agree with this. Luke seems like one of those guys that rolls up to the playground court, hogs the ball for entire games, puts in a few baskets ... yet is always waiting to get back on the court after his team loses. And with Kyrie, that gives DAL two of those guys.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Not to nitpick the thread title because it's one of the best bits going on this board, but I'm thinking the restaurant should be changed to Cheesecake Factory. They don't have the best food in the world, but they make up for it by giving you a BUTTLOAD of it.

doesn't applebees have some deal where they give you a whole thing of buffalo wings for a dollar in addition to your already giant meal?

 

[Capella]

Not to nitpick the thread title because it's one of the best bits going on this board, but I'm thinking the restaurant should be changed to Cheesecake Factory. They don't have the best food in the world, but they make up for it by giving you a BUTTLOAD of it.

Fair, but isn’t their food tolerable? Been years since I’ve been there.

 

[The Z Machine]

Not to nitpick the thread title because it's one of the best bits going on this board, but I'm thinking the restaurant should be changed to Cheesecake Factory. They don't have the best food in the world, but they make up for it by giving you a BUTTLOAD of it.

Fair, but isn’t their food tolerable? Been years since I’ve been there.

Yes, but only if you like salt and about 5000 calories per "meal".

 

[Capella]

Not to nitpick the thread title because it's one of the best bits going on this board, but I'm thinking the restaurant should be changed to Cheesecake Factory. They don't have the best food in the world, but they make up for it by giving you a BUTTLOAD of it.

Fair, but isn’t their food tolerable? Been years since I’ve been there.

Yes, but only if you like salt and about 5000 calories per "meal".

I do not. But Applebees has to be worse. I remember going there when I was 20, with no taste or money and thinking holy hell this is bad.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Doc really wasn’t a particularly good shooter

Beat me to it.

He didn't have much of a jump shot. He didn't even attempt threes -- less than 1 every 2 games across his whole career.

And a lot of the stuff he did around the basket is remembered so fondly just because he was the first to do it. 22-7-4 guy in the NBA, with one career triple-double.

Wing defender who could finish, but didn't have range. Derozan? (not sure that fits, but everyone in his mold is a D-and-3 these days if they put up 20+ a game)

ETA: looked up his era-adjusted stats at NBAR.com and he shows out way better than I remember. So grain of salt I guess.

 

[Capella]

Ayton out tonight. Not sure which team that helps more.

 

[msudaisy26]

Not to nitpick the thread title because it's one of the best bits going on this board, but I'm thinking the restaurant should be changed to Cheesecake Factory. They don't have the best food in the world, but they make up for it by giving you a BUTTLOAD of it.

Fair, but isn’t their food tolerable? Been years since I’ve been there.

Yes, but only if you like salt and about 5000 calories per "meal".

I do not. But Applebees has to be worse. I remember going there when I was 20, with no taste or money and thinking holy hell this is bad.

For our second anniversary my in-laws gave us a 50 dollar gift card to Applebee's to go to dinner. Their anniversary is 11 days later and we regifted the card to them and they thought we were reciprocating the gift.

 

[Anarchy99]

The Celtics clearly don't grasp the concept of home court advantage. They are 7-9 at home and 11-7 on the road in the past couple of years.

 

[Yo Mama]

Dr J scoffs at all our comparisons to mediocre current players

 

[NewlyRetired]

Doc really wasn’t a particularly good shooter

He didn't have much of a jump shot. He didn't even attempt threes -- less than 1 every 2 games across his whole career.

While I agree he was not a great shooter, I think using the 3 point stats from that time period is going to cause a lot of bad impressions.

As one of many examples, you know who shot 3 pointers at a paltry 27%, 21%, 29%, and 25% clip from 1980/81 through 83/84 and only took an average of less than 1 a game during that time period?

Larry ****ing Bird.

It took the players and the league quite a while to figure out how to be useful from the 3 point range in those days no matter how good a shooter you were. If Bird was coming up today it would be a night and day difference for him in his early years. By the time the things were figured out older players like Erving were done.

 

[msudaisy26]

The Celtics clearly don't grasp the concept of home court advantage. They are 7-9 at home and 11-7 on the road in the past couple of year.

These Celtics remind me of the 2000's Pistons. They consistently played down to their competition and gave games away they shouldn't have. They did win a title, but probably should have a second and at least 1 more finals appearance.

 

[trader jake]

Random aside: who would be Dr J’s closest compare amongst modern players? If he played today, what would his profile be?

If it had to be a single 2023 player, I'd go with Zion Williamson. Elite athleticism that can destroy around the hoop, but with questions of player fit around him.

Other players I considered for different reasons: Giannis, Jaylen Brown, Ja Morant, and Aaron Gordon.

Dr. J is playoff Jimmy Butler on offense with regular season Zack LaVine's athleticism and sometimes defense.

 

[Insein]

@Capella one of your first good thread titles. Great job!

Thanks, this means a lot coming from you, the worst poster who has ever lived.

I am going to report @Frostillicus because of this post!

Frost doesn't even make my top 12 of all time worst posters on this board.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Doc really wasn’t a particularly good shooter

He didn't have much of a jump shot. He didn't even attempt threes -- less than 1 every 2 games across his whole career.

While I agree he was not a great shooter, I think using the 3 point stats from that time period is going to cause a lot of bad impressions.

As one of many examples, you know who shot 3 pointers at a paltry 27%, 21%, 29%, and 25% clip from 1980/81 through 83/84 and only took an average of less than 1 a game during that time period?

Larry ****ing Bird.

It took the players and the league quite a while to figure out how to be useful from the 3 point range in those days no matter how good a shooter you were. If Bird was coming up today it would be a night and day difference for him in his early years. By the time the things were figured out older players like Erving were done.

The NBA didn't have a three point line until the late 70s, so he had none during the first half of his pro career (mostly ABA.) Well into the 80s, NBA teams across the board were still only taking maybe 4-5 attempts per game from three for the whole team. In terms of more modern players, I would compare him to Michael Jordan. Not as good of a shooter and weaker defensively although he wasn't a defensive joke by any means - loved to block shots and got lots of steals. He hung on too long though, after his skills had abandoned him, which is what many remember. Those last couple seasons were pretty bad.

 

[identikit]

The NBA didn't have a three point line until the late 70s, so he had none during the first half of his pro career (mostly ABA.) Well into the 80s, NBA teams across the board were still only taking maybe 4-5 attempts per game from three for the whole team. In terms of more modern players, I would compare him to Michael Jordan. Not as good of a shooter and weaker defensively although he wasn't a defensive joke by any means - loved to block shots and got lots of steals. He hung on too long though, after his skills had abandoned him, which is what many remember. Those last couple seasons were pretty bad.

Didn't the ABA have the three point line during his years there?

 

[NewlyRetired]

The NBA didn't have a three point line until the late 70s, so he had none during the first half of his pro career (mostly ABA.) Well into the 80s, NBA teams across the board were still only taking maybe 4-5 attempts per game from three for the whole team. In terms of more modern players, I would compare him to Michael Jordan. Not as good of a shooter and weaker defensively although he wasn't a defensive joke by any means - loved to block shots and got lots of steals. He hung on too long though, after his skills had abandoned him, which is what many remember. Those last couple seasons were pretty bad.

Didn't the ABA have the three point line during his years there?

Yes. The ABA added the three pointer in the late 60’s if memory serves. The ABA was way ahead of its time in many ways.

 

[identikit]

I am going to report @Frostillicus because of this post!

Frost doesn't even make my top 12 of all time worst posters on this board.

Well, he's not from Philly, so

 

[Long Ball Larry]

@Capella one of your first good thread titles. Great job!

Thanks, this means a lot coming from you, the worst poster who has ever lived.

I am going to report @Frostillicus because of this post!

Frost doesn't even make my top 12 of all time worst posters on this board.

That’s the nicest thing anyone has ever said about him

 

[trader jake]

How crazy am I if I still think the Celtics can win The Finals this season?

 

[identikit]

@Capella one of your first good thread titles. Great job!

Thanks, this means a lot coming from you, the worst poster who has ever lived.

I am going to report @Frostillicus because of this post!

Frost doesn't even make my top 12 of all time worst posters on this board.

That’s the nicest thing anyone has ever said about him

Extremely generous

 

[modogg]

Yikes, Sixers look really tight. Might have been the worst start they could have had so only way to go is up from here. Shooting 16% not great

 

[Deamon]

This game feels over.