Tom Hagen
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Kyzir White has been really good in coverage too.
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2022 Philadelphia Eagles - Leave Gannon in Arizona and let’s run through the NFC again in 2023. (3 Viewers)
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Ash
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Haven't rewatched the game yet, but a couple of things stand out from watching live. They way this line keeps trucking when there are multiple subs (Opeta, Driscoll) is something no other team in the league could do. Driscoll is probably a meh starter, but an amazing 6th OL who can cover 4 positions.
The second thing is that they really have to do something about how they handle the blitz. 2 weeks in a row, against a team that blitzes the passing game turns into this timid, horizontal thing that is both not successful, and does nothing to discourage teams from doubling down on that approach. I hope they take the bye week to do a decent bit of self scouting on that front.
There are two things I think they need to do. Kenny Gainwell is a ****show in pass protection, they can't keep putting him out there thinking this time it will work. They don't trust the other two backs either, how is Trey Sermon in pass pro? If he's no good either, then my left field option is try motioning Dallas Goedert into the backfield. It would be a separate set of rules he'd have to learn, but he is a good blocker if he needs to stay in, he would get good matchups (LB usually) as a target out of the backfield, and would also be a good lead on QB run plays. Aside from that, I'd almost just say screw it, take the RB out altogether and put in a 6th OL, Jordan Mailata tackle eligible baby!
They other is they need to build in some routes with the ability to punish the blitz. Slants, fades, wheels something with the chance for a big play, either in the air or via YAC. The answer can't just be Jalen runs, or called WR screens. Part of this is on coaching, but part is on Hurts too because a lot of blitzers coming seems to make him pull his eyes down and become a pure runner, as opposed to when he scrambles reactively from pressure. He probably doesn't trust the protection vs. 5+ rushers at this point either, which doesn't help.
They have the bye week now, which is good on that front, because they will keep seeing this approach from teams until they prove they have an answer.
The second thing is that they really have to do something about how they handle the blitz. 2 weeks in a row, against a team that blitzes the passing game turns into this timid, horizontal thing that is both not successful, and does nothing to discourage teams from doubling down on that approach. I hope they take the bye week to do a decent bit of self scouting on that front.
There are two things I think they need to do. Kenny Gainwell is a ****show in pass protection, they can't keep putting him out there thinking this time it will work. They don't trust the other two backs either, how is Trey Sermon in pass pro? If he's no good either, then my left field option is try motioning Dallas Goedert into the backfield. It would be a separate set of rules he'd have to learn, but he is a good blocker if he needs to stay in, he would get good matchups (LB usually) as a target out of the backfield, and would also be a good lead on QB run plays. Aside from that, I'd almost just say screw it, take the RB out altogether and put in a 6th OL, Jordan Mailata tackle eligible baby!
They other is they need to build in some routes with the ability to punish the blitz. Slants, fades, wheels something with the chance for a big play, either in the air or via YAC. The answer can't just be Jalen runs, or called WR screens. Part of this is on coaching, but part is on Hurts too because a lot of blitzers coming seems to make him pull his eyes down and become a pure runner, as opposed to when he scrambles reactively from pressure. He probably doesn't trust the protection vs. 5+ rushers at this point either, which doesn't help.
They have the bye week now, which is good on that front, because they will keep seeing this approach from teams until they prove they have an answer.
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DJackson10
Footballguy
It's already been proven can't just win by running in the playoffs. They need to figure out how to put both together. Teams and defenses scheme differently from regular and playoffs. Its why Lamar Jackson sucks come playoff time.
DJackson10
Footballguy
He looked horrible last night he was on skates. Hardly heard his name besides commentary team saying how great the Eagles neutralized him and when he took the stupid taunting penalty that fortunately for him didn't cost his team.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Half the guys on that list are just there because of their names at this point.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I think a lot of people get held up in just saying it's play calling. it's multiple aspects. Ranging from play calling, line protections Center and QB reading the defense with the QB changing the play call if needed, the protections, pass pro personal etc etc etc.
modogg
Footballguy
i think one of the best podcasts out there these days is the Kelce brothers podcast of New Heights. always has some good nuggets in it, but this one has some funny stuff and Kelce does a nice job explaining what happened with the fumble on the exchange with Jalen:
ETA: also discusses how the fumble was on a play where Hurts was calling a hot route to balance against a blitz. i see some comments above mentioning this, so it looks like it is already being put in place
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ETA: also discusses how the fumble was on a play where Hurts was calling a hot route to balance against a blitz. i see some comments above mentioning this, so it looks like it is already being put in place
NFL Rivalries, Brady’s Rant and Trade Talks | New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce | EP 7
On episode seven of ‘New Heights’, Jason celebrates the Eagles beating the Cowboys and reveals the secrets behind the Eagles' 6-0 start. Travis breaks down t...
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DJackson10
Footballguy
Kelce and Mailata to release a Christmas Album
www.fox29.com
A Philly Special Christmas: Eagles linemen set to release holiday album
As the Eagles remain undefeated, several players joined are spreading Christmas joy to raise money for families in need.
The Noid
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CJGJ was robbed. NFL desperate to get anyone other than another Eagle PotW.
DJackson10
Footballguy
And played with one arm in the 2nd half
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
These guys are all looking much more prescient than the rest of us, so far. Sorry for the wall of txt, but I just wanted to gauge the temperature change from pre-season.
Clearly, I am a bad fan with no football accumen. Who didn't see a 6-0 start coming?
The Noid
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Kelce was mic'ed up for DAL game. Love the part before the snap of the QB sneak where he tells the Cowboys D-Line, "You know what's coming."
Deamon
Footballguy
babydemon90
Footballguy
In fairness they've had quite a few injuries too.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Glad to see my pessimism was way off lol
The Noid
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Don't jinx it! Still scarred from that '94 Rich Kotite team starting 7-2 and finishing 7-9.
jasvic
Footballguy
Ugh, don't remind me. If only they fired him after I think it was the Atlanta game. Just remember I decided to stop watching until he was fired. Was hoping they'd give the team to Bud Carson and try and salvage the season. But nope, rode him out for some dumb reason. What an idiot.
Insein
Footballguy
God I remember that team. I was young and didn't understand how it was possible.
need2know
Footballguy
Was Kotite fired at the end of that season? I can't remember. If not he should have.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
need2know
Footballguy
Yeah I looked it up. Lurie had actually just bought the team. He didn't waste time. He's been a great owner
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Lottie ended the year with 7 straight losses then went 4-28 with the jets, ending his career losing 35 of 39.
DJackson10
Footballguy
According to Jeremy Fowler Eagles one of Chiefs and Rams interested in Panthers DE Brian Burns. Carolina already told teams they want to keep a part of their core and one anonymous GM said CAR is asking for 2 1st rounders for the young DE plus he's only around till next year so an extension would need to happen
Don't expect the Eagles to get Burns or your hopes up. Eagles always are interested in players doesn't mean they are taking them. It helps them gage the market better and plan their moves plus the Eagles don't make moves like this till the off season. edge Rushers are needed but the Eagles could use a 3 safety in their dime packages another TE for 12 Personel and a Powerback. Eagles have several contracts up including starting Safety Chauncey Gardner Johnson and LB TJ Edwards, as well as the fact they got more important issues to figure out like addressing Interiour DL outside of Jordan Davis with Hargreaves and Cox end of contract, a QB who could be extended this offseason on the plate.
Don't expect the Eagles to get Burns or your hopes up. Eagles always are interested in players doesn't mean they are taking them. It helps them gage the market better and plan their moves plus the Eagles don't make moves like this till the off season. edge Rushers are needed but the Eagles could use a 3 safety in their dime packages another TE for 12 Personel and a Powerback. Eagles have several contracts up including starting Safety Chauncey Gardner Johnson and LB TJ Edwards, as well as the fact they got more important issues to figure out like addressing Interiour DL outside of Jordan Davis with Hargreaves and Cox end of contract, a QB who could be extended this offseason on the plate.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
I agree Burns is a pipe dream- but, man, what a sweet dream that would be. So many UFAs after this year, and Hurts’ new contract, plus 2x 1st rounders? Not gonna happen.
Plus, barring injury, whose snaps is he gonna take? The DLine is already playing pretty well: BG is on a snap count, Reddick is too good to bench, Sweat is playing well.
Plus, barring injury, whose snaps is he gonna take? The DLine is already playing pretty well: BG is on a snap count, Reddick is too good to bench, Sweat is playing well.
Deamon
Footballguy
And they turned down 2 1sts already. Way too expensive.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Amazing that the giants and cowboys keep rolling and even Washington gets a win
The Noid
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PLAY THE SONG!
The Noid
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Our 2 NYG games in the last few weeks of the season are going to be more significant than anyone thought before the season.
Insein
Footballguy
Always are.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I hate seasons like this.I don't know if this Eagles team is really good legit wise or just really good because of a very down year from a lot of teams that should be really good. It makes it harder for people to evaluate and this is usually when people end up making very bad decisions that can cost teams for yrs. Hopefully Howie and Company keep their minds focused and don't fall into that category. This is where you find out if your football guys are good evaluators or not this type of year.
Same with NYG thought I don't think they are that great. Still numerious holes and they have a beaten a few teams they should have zero business even beating.
Just a very weird year.
Same with NYG thought I don't think they are that great. Still numerious holes and they have a beaten a few teams they should have zero business even beating.
Just a very weird year.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
You hate seasons where your team has the best record in football after 6 games? Tough crowd.
Deamon
Footballguy
lol haven't you learned by now that he'd rather us lose than win with Jalen?
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
The NFC is ridiculously weak this year. He’s right about that. But why not just enjoy that your team is basically just a shoe in for the super bowl (barring major injuries)? Who cares about the future?
renesauz
IBL Representative
Giants will lose a few before then. Feels like they're barely hanging on every week. Not trying to denigrate them...they're clearly a lot better then anyone expected, but it doesn't feel like there's any upside from where they are now and they've had a lot of bounces going their way.
Deamon
Footballguy
3 of the top 4 NFC records are in our division. That's nuts.
Minny I think is really good too though.
Seattle has the 5th best NFC record? Insane.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Eagles are still a class above due to the o-line and better all around weapons. Plus pass rush gets to Dak.
Nfc Super Bowl favorites for sure
Nfc Super Bowl favorites for sure
jasvic
Footballguy
Kempski made a good point in a post today about how weak the NFC is this year just looking at the QBs around the conference and asked how many QBs would you take over Hurts right now? Pretty sure the answer is zero, which is crazy. Like I've been saying for a few weeks now, enjoy the ride. Next season everyone could be injured or who knows what and even the perfect QB wouldn't make a difference, so enjoy the now.
https://www.phillyvoice.com/nfc-hierarchy-obituary-week-8-edition-2022/
https://www.phillyvoice.com/nfc-hierarchy-obituary-week-8-edition-2022/
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Special thanks to the sports gods for scheduling the two World Series off days for the two days the Eagles (and Union) are playing next week:
Friday, Oct. 28: Game 1 @ HOU
Saturday, Oct. 29: Game 2 @ HOU
Sunday, Oct. 30 @ 1:00: Steelers @ Eagles
(Sunday, Oct. 30 @ 8:00: Union ECF vs NYCFC)
Monday, Oct. 31: Game 3 @ PHI
Tuesday, Nov. 1: Game 4 @ PHI
Wednesday, Nov. 2: Game 5 @ PHI (if necessary)
Thursday, Nov. 3: Eagles @ Texans
Friday, Nov. 4: Game 6 @ HOU (if necessary)
Saturday, Nov. 5: Game 7 @ HOU (if necessary)
Trip to Houston for Texans game and then WS game 6 probably a pipe dream but still in the back of my mind.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Terpman22
Footballguy
Who are the 3 teams that would be the toughest for Philly?
Niners who got dismantled yesterday?
Heard the Bucs and Tom Brady were good b/c they beat the Cowboys week 1
Packers LOL
Wiped up Vikings and Cowboys ourselves (trust that offense I saw yesterday did not scare anyone)
Not a crazy statement. LOL at "shoe-in" I guess, but 6-0 be 6-0, and when all the "good" teams are showing to not be, this is how we get here.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
It’s a long season
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Good point. But it's been a while since I've seen a conference this week. Usually there are a couple dominant teams at the top. Not the case in the NFC this year. But yes injuries and other **** happens.
Terpman22
Footballguy
The Old QB Guard is simply showing its age. Rodgers can't just make anyone good. Tom Brady, lot of things going on in his life. Prob should have stayed retired. Russ gone and suckin. Stafford and the Rams paid and bought their one SB, they don't scare anyone. Sure its a long season, but I mean, does anyone see this Bucs, Packers or Rams team all of a sudden "turning it one?" Each team seems to have some major flaws holding them back right now.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Last year the Rams were 7-4 through 11 games and the Bengals were 7-6 through 13.
Two years ago the Bucs were 7-5. In ‘19 KC was 6-4
All I’m saying is week 7 is a little early to be crowning asses
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