They can do that all they want. If we can't beat the Giants B team, then who cares really.
We just opened up as 13 point favourites.
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2022 Philadelphia Eagles - Leave Gannon in Arizona and let’s run through the NFC again in 2023. (2 Viewers)
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We just opened up as 13 point favourites.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Someone knows Jalen is starting. No way that line is anywhere near that with Minshew starting,
I'd take Minshew over the Giants reserves by 13. But ya, either way I think this is going to be less of an issue as some people think.
I do worry about our first playoff game though if we don't get healthy. But I think we beat the Giants by 2 scores at least.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
There’s just no reason for them to play anyone of importance at all. Both teams have completely new staffs as well and I can’t see Daboll trying for a meaningless win to help out Joe Judge.
How does it help Joe Judge?
babydemon90
Footballguy
Guess we'll see.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Maybe he’d get some kind of gratification seeing us lose after what happened in 2020
That’s the best I got lol.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Not that this takes away from your point but I’m pretty sure the Cowboys only get a bye if the Eagles and Niners both lose.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Not totally his fault last week he gave us a shot to win had it not been for Watkins lack of effort and Miles fumble. No idea why we are running RPO's with him either. Some fault can go to him but anyone exclusively blaming him doesn't know a thing about football or just didn't watch
DJackson10
Footballguy
I'm Pissed worked sucked over the holidays getting screwed over and then these 2 loses. last week was winnable. Can't even analyze this disaster today. We deserve to lose our playoff game if we keep putting up clunkers in the 1st half. Defense played better after the we gifted them a Tenner on the scoreboard. offense was a disaster, WTF are we running RPO's with Minshew for? Play calling all game questionable, not sure what either our QB or WR were doing on that pick 6, the non hold that was called was a killer but expected from that abomination of a ref crew usually.
Everything we had going first half of the year isn't there anymore. Penalty after penalty and injuries keep piling up. Some seem to think just getting Hurts back everything is ok. Not with Steichen's playcallig and possible running our QB into the ground when you got RBs to handoff too. Teams finally figured out what I said earlier this year to beat us. Win the Turnover battle and possession Football. At this rate won't be surprised if we lose next week and then our playoff game either. We had all the luck the first half of the season and now the luck is going elsewhere it looks like.
Everything we had going first half of the year isn't there anymore. Penalty after penalty and injuries keep piling up. Some seem to think just getting Hurts back everything is ok. Not with Steichen's playcallig and possible running our QB into the ground when you got RBs to handoff too. Teams finally figured out what I said earlier this year to beat us. Win the Turnover battle and possession Football. At this rate won't be surprised if we lose next week and then our playoff game either. We had all the luck the first half of the season and now the luck is going elsewhere it looks like.
DJackson10
Footballguy
And people called me crazy earlier in the year worrying about all of this.
The Noid
Avoid me!
Anyway, cool DJax-ish story:
Had pregame sideline passes today, and they were for the “good” corner. There’s 4 different sideline sections/corners of the field, ours were for the corner by the Eagles tunnel and end zone where they warm up.
We got down there quick and staked out a spot right up against the rope chain barrier, closest to the tunnel. We were standing with 4 other people that were also in that spot and exchanged pleasantries with them. We’re enjoying the access and up-close view when all of a sudden Jordan Mailata starts walking toward us and steps over the chain to stand with us, and we realized the people we were standing with were his fiancé, with his mom, dad, and brother who were there from Australia seeing him play in person for the first time and the three of them were in the U. S. for the first time since Jordan left to come here.
Of course, other fans down there saw him and started to come over so security started keeping them away and creating some space for him and his family…which they assumed we were, too! So while he was hanging with them, chatting, and taking pictures we were just standing there acting like we belonged and I think he thought we were his family’s new American friends they met or something, as he was asking how we were doing and stuff. It reminded me of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer is a seat filler at the Tony’s and gets swept up with the cast and crew that just won and winds up going on stage with them to accept the award
They were all very nice (and surprisingly short!) and after he went back to the field, BG came running toward us…because a friend of his was standing behind us, so the same sort of thing happened where he’s catching up with this guy with us sandwiched in between because it’s packed down there and we’re right up against the front. He was nice and acknowledged us, and some of the other fans that pushed their way up once they saw him hanging there.
Had pregame sideline passes today, and they were for the “good” corner. There’s 4 different sideline sections/corners of the field, ours were for the corner by the Eagles tunnel and end zone where they warm up.
We got down there quick and staked out a spot right up against the rope chain barrier, closest to the tunnel. We were standing with 4 other people that were also in that spot and exchanged pleasantries with them. We’re enjoying the access and up-close view when all of a sudden Jordan Mailata starts walking toward us and steps over the chain to stand with us, and we realized the people we were standing with were his fiancé, with his mom, dad, and brother who were there from Australia seeing him play in person for the first time and the three of them were in the U. S. for the first time since Jordan left to come here.
Of course, other fans down there saw him and started to come over so security started keeping them away and creating some space for him and his family…which they assumed we were, too! So while he was hanging with them, chatting, and taking pictures we were just standing there acting like we belonged and I think he thought we were his family’s new American friends they met or something, as he was asking how we were doing and stuff. It reminded me of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer is a seat filler at the Tony’s and gets swept up with the cast and crew that just won and winds up going on stage with them to accept the award
They were all very nice (and surprisingly short!) and after he went back to the field, BG came running toward us…because a friend of his was standing behind us, so the same sort of thing happened where he’s catching up with this guy with us sandwiched in between because it’s packed down there and we’re right up against the front. He was nice and acknowledged us, and some of the other fans that pushed their way up once they saw him hanging there.
GoBirds
Footballguy
That sounds like an unreal experience, how did you manage to get down there? Pumped for you that you got to experience that!Anyway, cool DJax-ish story:
Had pregame sideline passes today, and they were for the “good” corner. There’s 4 different sideline sections/corners of the field, ours were for the corner by the Eagles tunnel and end zone where they warm up.
We got down there quick and staked out a spot right up against the rope chain barrier, closest to the tunnel. We were standing with 4 other people that were also in that spot and exchanged pleasantries with them. We’re enjoying the access and up-close view when all of a sudden Jordan Mailata starts walking toward us and steps over the chain to stand with us, and we realized the people we were standing with were his fiancé, with his mom, dad, and brother who were there from Australia seeing him play in person for the first time and the three of them were in the U. S. for the first time since Jordan left to come here.
Of course, other fans down there saw him and started to come over so security started keeping them away and creating some space for him and his family…which they assumed we were, too! So while he was hanging with them, chatting, and taking pictures we were just standing there acting like we belonged and I think he thought we were his family’s new American friends they met or something, as he was asking how we were doing and stuff. It reminded me of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer is a seat filler at the Tony’s and gets swept up with the cast and crew that just won and winds up going on stage with them to accept the award
They were all very nice (and surprisingly short!) and after he went back to the field, BG came running toward us…because a friend of his was standing behind us, so the same sort of thing happened where he’s catching up with this guy with us sandwiched in between because it’s packed down there and we’re right up against the front. He was nice and acknowledged us, and some of the other fans that pushed their way up once they saw him hanging there.
The Noid
Avoid me!
Just saw this video of when Mailata came back a few minutes later with Stoutland and introduced him to his family, but didn’t come back over the chain (we were more to the left by then, so just taking pics that time! That’s my BIL in the sunglasses taking video and I’m to his left.)Anyway, cool DJax-ish story:
Had pregame sideline passes today, and they were for the “good” corner. There’s 4 different sideline sections/corners of the field, ours were for the corner by the Eagles tunnel and end zone where they warm up.
We got down there quick and staked out a spot right up against the rope chain barrier, closest to the tunnel. We were standing with 4 other people that were also in that spot and exchanged pleasantries with them. We’re enjoying the access and up-close view when all of a sudden Jordan Mailata starts walking toward us and steps over the chain to stand with us, and we realized the people we were standing with were his fiancé, with his mom, dad, and brother who were there from Australia seeing him play in person for the first time and the three of them were in the U. S. for the first time since Jordan left to come here.
Of course, other fans down there saw him and started to come over so security started keeping them away and creating some space for him and his family…which they assumed we were, too! So while he was hanging with them, chatting, and taking pictures we were just standing there acting like we belonged and I think he thought we were his family’s new American friends they met or something, as he was asking how we were doing and stuff. It reminded me of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer is a seat filler at the Tony’s and gets swept up with the cast and crew that just won and winds up going on stage with them to accept the award
They were all very nice (and surprisingly short!) and after he went back to the field, BG came running toward us…because a friend of his was standing behind us, so the same sort of thing happened where he’s catching up with this guy with us sandwiched in between because it’s packed down there and we’re right up against the front. He was nice and acknowledged us, and some of the other fans that pushed their way up once they saw him hanging there.
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The Noid
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Got lucky and won the weekly American Airlines “Eagles Perks” prize. Two game tickets (which I sold since my season ticket seats were better), 2 sideline passes, and 2 jerseys (I asked for Hurts and Kelce.)
I entered daily since the start of the year and it paid off!
jasvic
Footballguy
Hurts with an extra week of healing. If anything, today showed how important he is to this offense. So they took a chance that Minshew can get a win. Unfortunately he (and this coaching staff and way too many players not stepping up) couldn't. Is this ideal? Hell no, but like I said the risk of making Hurts' injury worse and then missing the playoffs completely wasn't worth it. I'm fine with the Hurts playing decision, it's the game planning and how the coaches can't seem to adapt on either side of the ball when players go out that has me furious.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Nice to hear that people really do win those things, and playing pays off. Congrats!
Minshew was awful. They did call a run option play, and I watched the entire Saints defense commit 100% to the RB before the ball was handed off...ends crashing HARD to the inside. Now I realize Minshew isn't Hurts...but ANY QB could have kept the ball and picked up 5-10 yards before sliding on that play...the outside was completely open. A play we've seen Nick friggin Foles pull off a dozen times. Clearly Minshew had no idea how to run it at all, and it's a staple of the Eagles Offense. Just so disappointed in how he played...honestly expected better.
Except for the very first drive, the defense played exceptionally. Heck Eagles went 3 and out 4 straight times, and NO kept starting in good feild position, yet the Defense only gave up 13 points. bravo for them
Except for the very first drive, the defense played exceptionally. Heck Eagles went 3 and out 4 straight times, and NO kept starting in good feild position, yet the Defense only gave up 13 points. bravo for them
Insein
Footballguy
It's a weird dynamic with the defense. They played relatively well based on points scored and the sacks they got but Dalton did not make an incompletion until almost halftime. He was 11/11 for 120 yards and a TD. A better QB (Dak, rodgers) tears this defense apart. They can't keep playing zone to protect Josiah Scott. It's not going to work in the playoffs.
The Noid
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I'm seeing a lot of "The Defense was great, they held the Saints to only 13 points", but what that lacks is the context that below-average defenses have had no problem holding the Saints to around 13 points, too. A widely-accepted "great" defense like SF held the Saints to 0 points. So the fact that our defense did what CLE, PIT, CAR did isn't something to beat our chest about. It's also worth noting the defense didn't even start looking alive until their LT (and best Olineman) went out for the game with a hip injury.
Not absolving the offense by any means for their being the main culprit of that loss, but sometimes it's nice to have a "great" defense dominate a weak opponent and carry you in a game where your offense can't get out of its own way and a win is key to something like the #1 seed and extended rest and recovery. Very reminiscent of the Chris Rock bit about men who brag about taking care of their kids ("You are SUPPOSED to take care of your kids!") Being satisfied with doing what you should have been able to do in your sleep isn't a high bar.
modogg
Footballguy
i kind of agree with the defense having a hard time holding up. i don't have the numbers or stats in front of me but it seemed like Taysom Hill would get 4-5 yards every time he was set to run, and the secondary gave up plenty of catches on 3rd downs that they should have challenged more.
Kind of glad this happened in week 17 instead of week 18 though. Hope to see the Eagles come out guns blazing against whoever is across the field from them this Sunday and put on a bit of a statement game. Get a good lead in the first half and play one of the games where they can rest all starters in the 4th up 20+ points
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Any criticism of the defense is bordering on laughable and the only reason we were in the game at all that late was strictly because of them.
Context? Opening drive TD and next to nothing after that despite the saints having good starting field position MANY times throughout the game. There’s no need to move past yards, sacks, points etc to find completion percentage or something to criticize.
Context? Opening drive TD and next to nothing after that despite the saints having good starting field position MANY times throughout the game. There’s no need to move past yards, sacks, points etc to find completion percentage or something to criticize.
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
You know how Djax is with Hurts?
Like it or not, there’s a TON who do the same with Gannon and the defense.
Like it or not, there’s a TON who do the same with Gannon and the defense.
Insein
Footballguy
Disagree. They're good not great. There's no way Andy Dalton should have been able to complete passes at the rate he was when we only rush 4. 7 guys in coverage and he was carving them up. Just like Dak did last week.
Offense sucked but defense put them in a hole by not getting off the field.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Andy Dalton threw for 200 yards, no TD’s and a pick. His long was 58 on a play where we played man and Bradberry got smoked.
Defense gave up 13 points. For perspective the league leader allows 16. We’re 8th in the league allowing 20. From 3 minutes left in the second quarter the Saints had 7 possessions the defense allowed 0 points and held them to 105 net yards.
We have extremely different definitions of being “carved up”.
DJackson10
Footballguy
NO Off was 5 -5 on 3rd down Conversions and 2-2 on 4th downs at 1 point in the 1st half. Thats just unacceptable. You can criticize the defense for certain things but they did keep us in to a degree. You can make an argument if we had played any QB not Andy Dalton like Rodgers or Herbert or elsewhere we get carved up even worse and probably get smoked though.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Eagles Giants is now a 4:25 game next week
babydemon90
Footballguy
Yea defense was fine. We had how many sacks? First drive sucked, they adjusted and were terrific after that. Going 3 and out 4 or 5 straight times was by far the bigger problem to start.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
According to the coach, the Giants are playing their starters (though maybe not all of them)
Insein
Footballguy
I don't see why he would. They don't get a bye and this is a chance to rest before the playoff game most likely in SF. He's be stupid not to. But either way, with hurts, we should win.
need2know
Footballguy
I think they will start but only play a few series
unckeyherb
Footballguy
That was yesterday. Heard his press conference today and was singing a much different tune. I’d bet that saquon doesn’t see the field.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Pretty sure Daboll said his starters can rest after the season
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Nah like I said, his quote about not resting his starters was from yesterday. Someone from the front office obviously got to him and set him straight. He was super wishy washy today. There is nothing to be gained from playing anyone on that squad. They are the 6 seed no matter what. It would be malpractice to risk injuring Saquon or Jones in a game that you could literally forfeit without consequence.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Lol. I’ve been a Philadelphia fan long enough to expect at least the possibility of an epic collapse against their 2nd stringers.
Joe Webb anyone?
Insein
Footballguy
So you're saying there's a chance.
fatness
Footballguy
Ouch.
You're very fortunate to be in a team thread with a lot of forgiving posters.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
Yeah tough take.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Unless Hurts completely craps the bed in the playoffs, Minshew made Hurts a lot of money this past week
Terpman22
Footballguy
Minshew stinks. Even moreso, the coaches just called a terrible game on offense and put him in really crappy spots. Once again Miles Sanders had less than 5 first half carries. There must be something about him they just don't fully trust. Hard to see him coming back, considering how much they have used him this year yet hold him back in the games where it should be "Feed Miles" (I'm looking at you Chicago and New Orleans gameplans). I'm still believing to a pretty large degree Gannon is not using the whole playbook and saving the good stuff for the playoffs. We will see how true that is against a Giants team we could very likely see as our first matchup in the playoffs just as likely as Dallas. Also, I believe Hurts would have played either of these 2 games had we needed to "win the final 3 to get the 1" instead of "Just any game will do!" So personally, the discussions from Dallas fans mainly but also Eagles fans "Man had Dallas only beat Jax we'd be the 5 seed and Dallas would be 1" are a farce b/c I really believe the coaches are playing this all very close to the vest. Hurts never missed a down in Chicago, seems more they are using "cover of injury" to disguise/keep things secret, etc. Just my take on that. Segway into Hurts is definitely playing, we boatrace the Giants. Funny how so many Cowboys fans personal to me were all sending me the same clip of Daboll saying "starters are playing" but silent the next day when he obviously walked that s*** back. Eagles by a million on Sunday!
The Noid
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Against DAL the offense put up 27 points, gained 450 yards and never punted, usually a formula for winning or at least giving your team a solid chance to win. Yet no one (rightly) let them off the hook for the 4 turnovers.
I don't think the defense played horrible or were the reason we lost the NO game. I do, however, think it's fair to point out the (recurring) concerns that the defense continues to struggle with or be vulnerable to as the playoffs approach and we won't be playing teams like NO or QBs like Dalton.
I don't think the defense played horrible or were the reason we lost the NO game. I do, however, think it's fair to point out the (recurring) concerns that the defense continues to struggle with or be vulnerable to as the playoffs approach and we won't be playing teams like NO or QBs like Dalton.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I lean towards the bolded as well, mainly because as you said he never missed a down in the Chicago game. He continued to complete deep passes and IIRC even ran in another TD. Did we ever see him get treatment on the sidelines or go into the tent? We had no idea there was an issue until the day after the game. Maybe I'm just using my rose colored glasses but it doesn't feel right.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
This is kind of where I'm at. I think its a dangerous game they are playing but I do think that there is something to it. It's why I have been banging the drum about playing Hurts for the last two weeks. In the Chicago game there was almost no indication that he was hurting, he continued to play and frankly he played at a higher level. This feels very analytics to me and it may work out in the end but I continue to believe that Hurts could have played in Dallas and we'd have won that game. Coaches and front office being cute IMO. Hope it doesn't backfire with a loss to NYG.
I also think that (at least against Dallas) Gannon ran a pretty vanilla defense with the thinking that they could lose the game in Dallas AND we will probably face them in the playoffs. Didn't want to tip his hand on what they want to throw at Dak.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Looks like at least the 3 of us are in the same boat. Should have added that my prior evidence to all of this was how they "conveniently" got Quinn to IR, after him not having any injury news literally at all until the day before we activate Jordan Davis and, abracadabra, Robert Quinn goes to IR to free up the spot.
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