DJackson10
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Eagles aren't spending a top pick on an RB they know better.
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2022 Philadelphia Eagles - Leave Gannon in Arizona and let’s run through the NFC again in 2023. (1 Viewer)
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Eagles aren't spending a top pick on an RB they know better.
DJackson10
Footballguy
My department manager was talking to this one customer who comes in and they always talk sports. Don't get me wrong the dude seems like a nice guy maybe a friend of his from HS but he seems a bit off. Not sure how to describe it. Listening to these two talk is like listening to the talking heads on Philly sports radio with the hot takes. I bite my tongue often not to correct them or even make them look bad. I guess they enjoy themselves today I really didn't want to talk or hear from anyone about the game especially bitching about a blown call because it's not why we lost.
DJackson10
Footballguy
This is what worries me the most. Like I said I can say Hurts improved but he needs to show me consistency each and every year as he's always had an issue with consistency of good play. I just think we give him a big contract and he won't live up to it. I think he's improved but I don't think he's ever going to be a guy who makes the guys around him better like a Brady or Manning or Rodgers does. I think the team built around him was great and helped cover his weaknesses which is exactly what should be done for a guy like Hurts.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I wouldn't think so either, however I have seen them mocked taking an RB with pick #30. Not sure about that one either. I'd much rather a CB or a defensive end with both first round picks. They're going to need some cheap defensive replacements.
DJackson10
Footballguy
My girlfriend was pissed off last night. I told her exactly this. If there was a SB I'd rather lose it's to Andy Reid and the Chiefs. If this was against NE and Brady I might have been arrested last night for actions I can't post on here.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Fangio was on a two week contract in case they lost Gannon. He was here as a non pad aid all season and insiders were saying if Gannon left given it's Fangio's scheme he'd replace Gannon. Unfortunately their plan backfired and Vic got a DC job with MIA before we found out Gannon's fate. He probably got some indication despite interviews Gannon would be here next year or I think he'd have stayed.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I got zero issue with Steady he's been coming in here for awhile and even says his thread sucks. I don't mind Cowboysfan at times. I disagree with him a lot. However I do see some of you guys taking things too personally. Its like reading an actual version of Philly sports talk radio and anyone who says anything the host don't like they view them as Public Enemy #1. People in this thread need to stop taking themselves too seriously at times.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Ironically the QB who threw more TDs won the game though.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I'd keep Minshew because honestly who's even better out there? I really am not a fan of half the possible late rounders outside of Max Duggin
Said for awhile let Miles walk. There's a boatload of RBs in this draft they can draft one sign a vet for cheap who's there around July or so or maybe someone gets a post June 1 cut No need to spend big. Kenny G IMHO is good enough
This is why I wanted JuJu this offseason he fits perfectly as a #2/slot guy. There should be a few good ones in the draft. Might overpriced on FA
Could see Kelce coming back
It'd be a shocker if it doesn't happen. BG just bought a house down the street from Kelce in the last year. He either signs a 1 year deal or retires.
Plan was for Dean to play more but Edwards and White played better then anyone thought. One of White or Edwards leaves this offseason though and Dean steps in.
I'd hope for this but I think they might hope for another season of a team cuts a guy and we pick him up as a 1 year prove it guy.
Resigning him is a top priority. I think they could use a 4th guy though
Elliot is good Special teams needs to fixed. Clay punting to Kadarius Toney is a fireable offense.
DJackson10
Footballguy
He's a JAG he gets injured a lot. He played last year for SF when they had injuries failed to impress and even got hurt. With the lack of depth SF had earlier this year and Mitchell injury history the fact he was cut didn't bode well for him.
DJackson10
Footballguy
We found out late NE was cheating too and Roger boy killed the tapes because Kraft helped get him his job.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Don't pay for RBs when this draft is loaded. RBs have a short shelf life in the NFL.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Always hurt. Availability is a key. Has some talent but so long.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Here's a good word of advice. Don't listen to what these talking heads mock for us. By now they should know how the Eagles operate and they just aren't spending there. It's being mocked because of Sanders and gives a talking point. Simiar to how "The Eagles are in for Watson and Wilson." because it was a questionable position and we had the assets at the time.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I wouldn’t trade Hurts for three Daks
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modogg
Footballguy
i've seen a few clips, but this shows a good example of how the field impacted the Eagles pass rush:
ftw.usatoday.com
A wild video showed exactly why the Eagles were so upset about the terrible Super Bowl 57 field
No wonder the Eagles are mad.
ftw.usatoday.com
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
This sucks. I was really hoping that with a deep playoff run we could hold off on getting purged. I’m sure he’ll take a few others with him as well.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
I think Brian Johnson is the front runner.
Insein
Footballguy
Dude better come up with some new tricks. Having career years from your Dline against crap teams isn't going to cut it anymore.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Yeah man for reals. He ain't going to have the same cast either.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
You know I love you man, but Dak just isn't what you think he is. Dak was an INT machine this past season and Hurts made laser beam after laser beam throw in the SB - plays that I do not believe Dak could consistently make. Dak and the Cowboys are not going be able to compete with the elite teams unless he improves his accuracy and the Cowboys improve their receiving corps.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
They should. Defense improved a TON from year 1 to year 2 under him. If he keeps moving forward and gets more creative/aggressive we can still be a top defense.
Terpman22
Footballguy
I *AM* confident he can learn and grow. But man, the Super Bowl was a culmination of all of our collective worries about his game planning/defensive scheme/situational aggressiveness. Hoping for the best of course
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
And yet another new offense for Hurts as well
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I’m just looking at overall body of work. I can’t recall a defense taking the strides it did from one year to the next. This was one of the best defenses in the teams history. Maybe it’s his peak or maybe there’s more room for growth. I just don’t want both coordinators gone and tons of other coaches. I’ll lean toward stability there.
jasvic
Footballguy
Don't think it will be that bad. Nick was still involved in the game planning and assuming they promote the QB coach. New wrinkles, which should happen regardless of the OC each year, but not a completely new system.And yet another new offense for Hurts as well
Terpman22
Footballguy
Ya know, all I heard going into this season, regarding our QB Hurts was "Guys don't learn how to be more accurate this late in their development" and he definitely proved people wrong, Maybe Dak can do the same at age 30 with Mike McCarthy developing him now. He did a good job with Aaron Rodgers.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
And even throughout the season people continued to refer to him as a "running back playing QB". Just look at some of the quotes that came out right before the SB.
modogg
Footballguy
Still getting over this Super Bowl. i do like these guys from the Packers (Ahman Greene and Mike Wahl), good analysis and objective when it has to do with things outside of the Packers (though they are real good with them too, haven't watched a ton outside of Eagles related).
anyway, this field was just ridiculous:
www.youtube.com
anyway, this field was just ridiculous:
ON MY BLOCK SUPERBOWL CLIPS
www.youtube.com
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
Ugh. Just our luck. Gannon stays and has less talent this year, Steichen leaves.
I am doing another 180 on Gannon. I hated his scheme thru most of the year, then thought you can;t argue with the stats and results. Now, after the Superb Owl, I hate his scheme again and want him gone. I'm getting vertigo from this guy.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
It will be interesting to watch. We will likely lose Fletch and Hargreaves, Bradberry, Epps, Kyzir White. Maybe lose BG, TJ Edwards, CJGJ. A big drop in talent level, unless Howie pulls some cap magic and gets us more reasonable FAs this iff season.
Terpman22
Footballguy
The bolded players, IMO will be re-signed. Fletch is definitely gone, Hargraves we won't afford and he offers zilch in run defense. He will be replaced in the draft and Bradberry will be looking to get that last big payday. TJ Edwards, his initial status as a UDFA will help us get him at a reasonable price. CJGJ is the guy that will have to be paid and he will also be a top 5 paid player at his position.
Miles Sanders will also be gone. And he will also be replaced in the draft.
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ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
I'd rather them try and keep TJ than White. They have to keep somebody at LB.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Yeah edited that. Me too. They re-sign TJ and Dean steps into the White role. White was a bit up and down this year.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
I was so hungover yesterday I could barely move and didn't even try to get on FBG....which is usually a daily thing for me...can't remember the last time I didn't check in...
some quick hits from the dark side...in your thread cause there are only like three KC fans on FBG....
Hurts played really well....I'd like to see him back this season up with another one....but the future looks promising...although there is still something I just can't put my finger on that gives me a slight bit of pause....not sure what it is but something...
the field was ridiculous...that is unacceptable for a SB...
the call....when the guy that did it, admits that he did it and was hoping they would "let it ride".....that's about all there is....all the talk of the ref shouldn't through it "at that time of the game" or whatever is wasted noise really....Mahomes saw it and made the throw....if not be held/tugged, who knows if that's TD or not....it was overthown because the WR was being held back...
people feel like they got "robbed" from not seeing an ending where Hurt gets the ball back with a minute and a half left....and even if they don't score or whatever at least they wanted to "see it"....like you wanted to have your perfect ending as we didn't get to see it.....well if you look at it from the other side...if the call isn't made, that would be "robbing" KC from there perfect ending....which was played out to perfection from their side of things.......can't have it both ways I guess....
Andy and crew called a great game....
KC got stops when needed....PHI didn't
lastly.....feels like PHI read their own press clippings a little too much.....most every "expert" had them winning and many winning easily....and much of that was because of their offensive and defensive lines that we heard about at nauseum before the game and they were going to dominate KC in the trenches.....the opposite really played out I feel that is where the game was won/lost....KC oline played really well, almost with a chip on their shoulder and opened up holes for an underrated running game....and KC d line really kept PHI running game outside of Hurts in check....
possibly one of the greatest SB ever played and it was nice having the two best teams in the game.....instant classic....PHI went down fighting but I think KC having been through some tough battles over the years and having "been there done that" showed a little as they played a pretty flawless game and that is what it was going to take against PHI who was solid in every unit and had very few weaknesses....
some quick hits from the dark side...in your thread cause there are only like three KC fans on FBG....
Hurts played really well....I'd like to see him back this season up with another one....but the future looks promising...although there is still something I just can't put my finger on that gives me a slight bit of pause....not sure what it is but something...
the field was ridiculous...that is unacceptable for a SB...
the call....when the guy that did it, admits that he did it and was hoping they would "let it ride".....that's about all there is....all the talk of the ref shouldn't through it "at that time of the game" or whatever is wasted noise really....Mahomes saw it and made the throw....if not be held/tugged, who knows if that's TD or not....it was overthown because the WR was being held back...
people feel like they got "robbed" from not seeing an ending where Hurt gets the ball back with a minute and a half left....and even if they don't score or whatever at least they wanted to "see it"....like you wanted to have your perfect ending as we didn't get to see it.....well if you look at it from the other side...if the call isn't made, that would be "robbing" KC from there perfect ending....which was played out to perfection from their side of things.......can't have it both ways I guess....
Andy and crew called a great game....
KC got stops when needed....PHI didn't
lastly.....feels like PHI read their own press clippings a little too much.....most every "expert" had them winning and many winning easily....and much of that was because of their offensive and defensive lines that we heard about at nauseum before the game and they were going to dominate KC in the trenches.....the opposite really played out I feel that is where the game was won/lost....KC oline played really well, almost with a chip on their shoulder and opened up holes for an underrated running game....and KC d line really kept PHI running game outside of Hurts in check....
possibly one of the greatest SB ever played and it was nice having the two best teams in the game.....instant classic....PHI went down fighting but I think KC having been through some tough battles over the years and having "been there done that" showed a little as they played a pretty flawless game and that is what it was going to take against PHI who was solid in every unit and had very few weaknesses....
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
i can't "like" this post enough. i get that there was improvements, but my gawd that scheme in the superbowl was ____________________ !@$#@
The Noid
Avoid me!
I don't think there was any misunderstanding from the start between the team and Bradberry. This was a 1-year "prove it" deal that was mutually beneficial. He gets a chance to show his value and maximize his next contract, we get (at least) a year of a solid CB (who gave us the bonus of playing at an All-Pro level.)
If he can cash in after giving us the season he did, and we can't afford him, no hard feelings.
Deamon
Footballguy
Yep he positioned himself for a big pay day. Great season on the field, and 'taking accountability" after the game. Good look for him.
modogg
Footballguy
looking forward to the 2023 thread for all this talk. i have to think the Eagles will get some high compensatory draft picks for the guys they will be losingI don't think there was any misunderstanding from the start between the team and Bradberry. This was a 1-year "prove it" deal that was mutually beneficial. He gets a chance to show his value and maximize his next contract, we get (at least) a year of a solid CB (who gave us the bonus of playing at an All-Pro level.)
If he can cash in after giving us the season he did, and we can't afford him, no hard feelings.
Deamon
Footballguy
This one stings more than almost any Eagles loss I've felt before. The call, the field, the fact that if our defense made 1 more play or made even the slightest adjustment. This one hurts bad, felt like we earned it.
But congrats Djax and KC fans on the win. Chiefs simply outcoached/outplayed us by a huge margin in the 2nd half.
But congrats Djax and KC fans on the win. Chiefs simply outcoached/outplayed us by a huge margin in the 2nd half.
Deamon
Footballguy
The Noid
Avoid me!
I think the biggest thing being overlooked in how bad we got schooled in the second half is the amount of pre-snap motion KC switched to, or more specially WHY they did it. Their coaching staff (correctly) identified the field conditions and deliberately went with plays that would put the defense at a disadvantage by treating it like a snow game. In snowy conditions, the person that knows where they are going has the clear advantage over the person that doesn't. Going in motion and doubling back at the last second gives the route runner an extra second or two as the defender has to adjust mid-movement and footing comes into play. The player on offense knows they will be cutting or turning and can be in more control. Some quotes from players on playing in the snow, from this article:
KC already does a lot of motion, with 65% of snaps on average going into the game. But in SB57 they did it 78% of the time, and were above 80% in the 2nd half. Not sure what the defensive counter to that is (e.g. how should a defense play when the field is snowy/slippery), but beyond a few guys changing their cleats, I don't think we tried to make any adjustments and depended on the scheme and plan we went into the game with and hoped the players could power through the conditions.
KC already does a lot of motion, with 65% of snaps on average going into the game. But in SB57 they did it 78% of the time, and were above 80% in the 2nd half. Not sure what the defensive counter to that is (e.g. how should a defense play when the field is snowy/slippery), but beyond a few guys changing their cleats, I don't think we tried to make any adjustments and depended on the scheme and plan we went into the game with and hoped the players could power through the conditions.
modogg
Footballguy
congrats to him. do a lot of teams lose both coordinators in one off-season? Eagles should get some compensation or something.....
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