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I recall Silver saying he knew it might take time for fans (and players) to get used to the tournament — meaning maybe years, not days.
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2023-24 NBA (Playoffs!) Thread: Message board poster furiously types out one more horrible post before thread closes (2 Viewers)
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Footballguy
The first Super Bowl wasn't exactly a smash. Tickets were only $12 then, and there were 62,000 people in attendance (and 15,000 empty seats). I think things turned out ok for the NFL. Not suggesting the NBA in-season tournament will grow by leaps and bounds, but it could develop into something once they figure out what they are doing.The tournament doesn’t need to be more popular than football to make it successful. It just needs to slightly move the needle on fan interest during the early regular season so the NBA can make this part of its sales pitch on the new media deal.
The NBA tourney had 7 games on Friday night. There were exactly zero NFL games on Friday night, and the two college football games were 4 unranked teams that nobody really cares about
Do you know what those TV ratings were per game? I'd be curious, but I'd also bet they are LOW.
On NBA TV Thursday night, Spurs-Suns — featuring Victor Wembanyama’s 38-point performance — averaged 580,000 viewers, down 12% from Heat-Warriors last year (658K).
Do you know how many people tuned in to watch Titans/Steelers? 11.5 million.
My argument is a larger one - NBA in November is an afterthought for most sports fans. It may not be for you, but for the average US TV sports viewer, early season NBA basketball isn't important. Speaking personally, my sports attention is on who the Ducks play on Saturday and what my fantasy football roster is looking like heading into Sunday. An in-season NBA tournament in November isn't making my sports' pants tight. Hell, I don't even think many of the players understand what it's all about.
And back then we called them 'talkies', you see. Two pence for an Ovaltine, four for a progrum.
Maybe. Perhaps a small incremental gain in November, when the league really struggles to reach an audience, is more valuable for TV partners than making it a bigger part of the national sports calendar later in the year when people are starting to turn to the NBA anyway.The tournament doesn’t need to be more popular than football to make it successful. It just needs to slightly move the needle on fan interest during the early regular season so the NBA can make this part of its sales pitch on the new media deal.
The NBA tourney had 7 games on Friday night. There were exactly zero NFL games on Friday night, and the two college football games were 4 unranked teams that nobody really cares about
Do you know what those TV ratings were per game? I'd be curious, but I'd also bet they are LOW.
On NBA TV Thursday night, Spurs-Suns — featuring Victor Wembanyama’s 38-point performance — averaged 580,000 viewers, down 12% from Heat-Warriors last year (658K).
Do you know how many people tuned in to watch Titans/Steelers? 11.5 million.
My argument is a larger one - NBA in November is an afterthought for most sports fans. It may not be for you, but for the average US TV sports viewer, early season NBA basketball isn't important. Speaking personally, my sports attention is on who the Ducks play on Saturday and what my fantasy football roster is looking like heading into Sunday. An in-season NBA tournament in November isn't making my sports' pants tight. Hell, I don't even think many of the players understand what it's all about.
Well, it's not going to be as popular as football. That was never my argument. That's a ludicrous ask. I'm just suggesting if the NBA wanted to draw attention to an in-season tournament, do it when football is in the rearview mirror and not in November when most sports fans are focused on football.
But if this is a sales pitch for a new media deal, maybe this was the best option for timing?
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Lillard too.I think there has been one player, Bones Hyland, who has come out and said he doesn’t know what is going on. Every NBA team has minimum players and guys who have not made a bunch of money in their lives. 1/2 million is not nothing for those guys. Also these guys are hyper competitive. I bet when it gets to semis and finals for this thing these dudes are gonna ball
The NBA tourney had 7 games on Friday night. There were exactly zero NFL games on Friday night, and the two college football games were 4 unranked teams that nobody really cares about
Do you know what those TV ratings were per game? I'd be curious, but I'd also bet they are LOW.
On NBA TV Thursday night, Spurs-Suns — featuring Victor Wembanyama’s 38-point performance — averaged 580,000 viewers, down 12% from Heat-Warriors last year (658K).
Do you know how many people tuned in to watch Titans/Steelers? 11.5 million.
My argument is a larger one - NBA in November is an afterthought for most sports fans. It may not be for you, but for the average US TV sports viewer, early season NBA basketball isn't important. Speaking personally, my sports attention is on who the Ducks play on Saturday and what my fantasy football roster is looking like heading into Sunday. An in-season NBA tournament in November isn't making my sports' pants tight. Hell, I don't even think many of the players understand what it's all about.
I think that is what the NBA is trying to solve for, but they botched the marketing if the players don't even know what is going on. The incentive seems so meaningless to them, that it is just another game. And it being so early, teams are still ramping players up from the off-season to even get minutes.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Sixers are so much more fun to watch without Harden. He literally sucks the life out of your teams offense.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Pacers shooting 14-22 on 3-pointers in the first half. Is that normal?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Not even for the Warriors during Klay and Curry's prime.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Those usually go throughout the season and end near the same time the season does. There could be large breaks. The NBA one is basically wrapped up in the first month of the season.
Moe.
Footballguy
The Thunder are blacked out on League Pass in Kansas City, so dumb. I don’t think it’s possible to get a cable/streaming package that shows their games here. The Nuggets are also blacked out for good measure, so I miss my favorite team and the best team in the league. Death to RSNs. I understand why they won’t show the national tv games on league pass, but this other stuff is nonsense
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
The nuggets are blacked out in Kansas City?
Moe.
Footballguy
Yes. I think if you have Directv you can get access to Altitude Sports, which shows their games “locally” and supposedly includes the KC market.
I don’t think you can get the Thunder here regardless. The NBA seems to think the local Bally Sports Station carries their games in KC, but I’m pretty sure they don’t
Jayrod
Footballguy
Wolves are tough.
Celtics really missed Derrick White in this one. Needed his defense to slow down ANT. Horford is a good player, but he was the on ball defender on a lot of buckets in the 4th and OT.
Boston needing to rely on Sam Hauser during important clutch time minutes is ungood.
Brown's shot at the end of regulation was stupid. Game's tied and he shoots a step-back 3 and actually left 0.2 for the Wolves after the rebound.
Celtics really missed Derrick White in this one. Needed his defense to slow down ANT. Horford is a good player, but he was the on ball defender on a lot of buckets in the 4th and OT.
Boston needing to rely on Sam Hauser during important clutch time minutes is ungood.
Brown's shot at the end of regulation was stupid. Game's tied and he shoots a step-back 3 and actually left 0.2 for the Wolves after the rebound.
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Major
Footballguy
Happy for Frosti and his Wolves. Two nice wins against the league's best teams.
Houston winning back to back games vs. SAC surprised me as well. 3-3 is about as good of a start as I could expect after getting pummeled by Orlando. Dillon Brooks has been earning that contract. Hope he keeps up the great play.
Houston winning back to back games vs. SAC surprised me as well. 3-3 is about as good of a start as I could expect after getting pummeled by Orlando. Dillon Brooks has been earning that contract. Hope he keeps up the great play.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
That was a really fun game.
Jayrod
Footballguy
I agree. McDaniels is a difference maker and Edwards is a superstar.
caustic
Footballguy
It’s so bad. Used to get every Thunder game here but Bally ruined it. Can’t wait for the league to begin streaming directly to consumers once these RSNs croak.
Major
Footballguy
I have a fairly reliable streaming site (unlicensed) that I've been using for all NBA games. Just DM me and I'll send you a link.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
The reason the Wolves gave up so many picks in the Gobert trade is because they refused to trade mcDaniels. No matter what you think about the trade overall, not trading mcDaniels was a smart move.
some may say that it’s too early to panic after 6 games, but I’m out on the Kings after those two games. Just totally embarrassing, G-league level play.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Nothing beats the hang nail for pitchers in baseball
They could have at least properly called it the "baby toe" or "pinky toe"
Jayrod
Footballguy
Ummm....I did this once.
It hurts like a mother and every step can be painful for a while.
I kicked a guy's shin under the net playing sand volleyball when I was spiking and he was trying to block it.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Vote
Jayrod
Footballguy
Literally nothing on the ballot for our household. Plus I always vote in the morning.
Moe.
Footballguy
Mailed that sucker in last week, let’s play some ball
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Working an early shift today and no games has luckily given me some time to watch/listen to a podcast. I have to say—I’m about 2 hours into this Flagrant podcast with Jason Williams (white chocolate) being the guest—and it’s absolutely amazing. Soo many great NBA stories and the dude is beyond hilarious. Here’s a link in case anybody is interested.
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Just to update this post. Just finished the podcast—and I can say that the last 60-90 minutes is beyond hilarious. I legit haven’t laughed so hard for so long for quite a while. Do yourselves a favor and watch this—even if you need to break it down into 20-30 minute sectIons.Working an early shift today and no games has luckily given me some time to watch/listen to a podcast. I have to say—I’m about 2 hours into this Flagrant podcast with Jason Williams (white chocolate) being the guest—and it’s absolutely amazing. Soo many great NBA stories and the dude is beyond hilarious. Here’s a link in case anybody is interested.
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Jayrod
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A few good games tonight:
Boston @ Philly - top 2 teams in the East. Hoping White is back because they missed him vs the T-Wolves
Spurs @ Knicks - Wemby's Garden debut on ESPN (teams are both around .500, so competitive game?)
Warriors @ Denver - Late game on ESPN, #1 vs #3 in the West. Hope Jokic abuses Draymond.
Boston @ Philly - top 2 teams in the East. Hoping White is back because they missed him vs the T-Wolves
Spurs @ Knicks - Wemby's Garden debut on ESPN (teams are both around .500, so competitive game?)
Warriors @ Denver - Late game on ESPN, #1 vs #3 in the West. Hope Jokic abuses Draymond.
The Gator
Footballguy
Warriors @ Denver - Late game on ESPN, #1 vs #3 in the West. Hope Jokic abuses Draymond.
I'm going to this game tonight.
Is this a normal game or do i need to take LSD and stare at the floor?
Jayrod
Footballguy
Warriors @ Denver - Late game on ESPN, #1 vs #3 in the West. Hope Jokic abuses Draymond.
I'm going to this game tonight.
Is this a normal game or do i need to take LSD and stare at the floor?
Normal game.
I'm jealous, should be a good one.
Excited for this one for sure. White is back playing too.
Side note... Boston is also playing Philly in MLS with the exact same start time. Not like I'm going to watch, but I got excited that the game was televised for a minute there but it was just the MLS game dammit
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Ewing Theory.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
They are better. Maxey is another year improved. Melton is a better defender and isn’t a blackhole on offense. Harris is better at the 4 than 3. Oubre adds scoring.
Probably need some bench scoring though or another scorer that put oubre back to the bench.
Probably need some bench scoring though or another scorer that put oubre back to the bench.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Definitely. This is why many people in this thread kept saying he wasn't a top 30 player anymore and he wasn't worth any multi year deal worth over 25 million.
Harden should be a 6th man again. That is would be his best spot for him and his team.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Ewing theory is false and he was like 37 when that happened. No one can blame a 37 year old when his team being better with him off the court than on. Most teams are.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Spurs playing like ***, again. I hope all these lineup experiments eventually include moving Wemby to center and inserting Domanick Barlow at PF.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
They are young and this is why you wait to add pieces. They are going to be up and down this year and probably next year.
If you want to extend Wembanyama's career and keep him from missing games then he should stay a PF or even a SF. Centers get banged up and even the biggest and strongest centers take a beating. Wemby isn't the biggest or strongest.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
I'll settle for Barlow as backup PF. I'm all-in on patience and whatnot, but some of these guys are looking like imposters (Zollins and Branham).
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Barlow has entered the chat.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Dominick Barlow, ftr.
Orange&Blue
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
BUCKS!
Mister CIA
Footballguy
6'9" PF, barely 20, with nice NBA athleticism and a developing midrange game. I'm a fan.
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