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2023-24 NBA (Playoffs!) Thread: Message board poster furiously types out one more horrible post before thread closes (6 Viewers)

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msudaisy26 said:
Navin Johnson said:
msudaisy26 said:
Deamon said:
msudaisy26 said:
Frostillicus said:
[Shelburne] Harden was dismayed at his all-star snub. Adam Silver was prepared to name him as an injury replacement if Harden assured he would play. Days went by without Harden's answer. He was pouting. By the time Harden accepted, Silver had moved on, naming Pascal Siakam the injury replacement
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lol.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38335993/inside-feud-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers
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I can't believe 76er fans and players actually want him to change his mind and come back.
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I mean, what's the alternative at this point? We aren't getting value for him. We are better with Harden then without Harden... unfortunately.
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While that is probably true for this year, it isn't going forward. Harden is declining and I forget if it was Kev or Moops or whoever went through the 76ers cap situation and if they let Harden walk or only got back expiring deals they would have a good amount of money to spend going into next off-season.
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They'll be at $76m with just Embid, Tucker and three players from the island of misfit toys on the roster. Not exactly a FA destination.
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So they will have at least 60 million dollars to try to lure guys to play with Embiid before hitting the first threshold. Sounds pretty good. Plus we all know there will be a team looking to trade a disgruntled star or dump salary and giving up picks to do so or try to resign Harden to keep him happy.

Doesn't seem like a tough choice.
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And we know Philly loves to trade for those disgruntled stars.
 
msudaisy26 said:
So they will have at least 60 million dollars to try to lure guys to play with Embiid before hitting the first threshold. Sounds pretty good. Plus we all know there will be a team looking to trade a disgruntled star or dump salary and giving up picks to do so or try to resign Harden to keep him happy.
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Just a clarification. They will likely be acting as a cap space team, so they will have 60-70 million to the salary cap, not the first luxury tax threshold.
 
the moops said:
msudaisy26 said:
So they will have at least 60 million dollars to try to lure guys to play with Embiid before hitting the first threshold. Sounds pretty good. Plus we all know there will be a team looking to trade a disgruntled star or dump salary and giving up picks to do so or try to resign Harden to keep him happy.
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Just a clarification. They will likely be acting as a cap space team, so they will have 60-70 million to the salary cap, not the first luxury tax threshold.
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If I am reading it correctly and it is the NBA salary cap so there is a very good chance I am not. The cap is 137ish million this year, they only have 70 something million on the books for next year and I don't think the cap goes down. The first threshold is after 137 million.
 
msudaisy26 said:
the moops said:
msudaisy26 said:
So they will have at least 60 million dollars to try to lure guys to play with Embiid before hitting the first threshold. Sounds pretty good. Plus we all know there will be a team looking to trade a disgruntled star or dump salary and giving up picks to do so or try to resign Harden to keep him happy.
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Just a clarification. They will likely be acting as a cap space team, so they will have 60-70 million to the salary cap, not the first luxury tax threshold.
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If I am reading it correctly and it is the NBA salary cap so there is a very good chance I am not. The cap is 137ish million this year, they only have 70 something million on the books for next year and I don't think the cap goes down. The first threshold is after 137 million.
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The cap is likely to be around 142 million next year. Generally thresholds are when you are talking about the luxury tax, which will be at roughly 172 million. Problem with clearing cap space is you are then hardcapped at the 142 million. So they will "only" have 60-70 million to fill out the entire roster
 
msudaisy26 said:
Navin Johnson said:
msudaisy26 said:
Deamon said:
msudaisy26 said:
Frostillicus said:
[Shelburne] Harden was dismayed at his all-star snub. Adam Silver was prepared to name him as an injury replacement if Harden assured he would play. Days went by without Harden's answer. He was pouting. By the time Harden accepted, Silver had moved on, naming Pascal Siakam the injury replacement
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lol.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38335993/inside-feud-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers
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I can't believe 76er fans and players actually want him to change his mind and come back.
Click to expand...
I mean, what's the alternative at this point? We aren't getting value for him. We are better with Harden then without Harden... unfortunately.
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While that is probably true for this year, it isn't going forward. Harden is declining and I forget if it was Kev or Moops or whoever went through the 76ers cap situation and if they let Harden walk or only got back expiring deals they would have a good amount of money to spend going into next off-season.
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They'll be at $76m with just Embid, Tucker and three players from the island of misfit toys on the roster. Not exactly a FA destination.
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So they will have at least 60 million dollars to try to lure guys to play with Embiid before hitting the first threshold. Sounds pretty good. Plus we all know there will be a team looking to trade a disgruntled star or dump salary and giving up picks to do so or try to resign Harden to keep him happy.

Doesn't seem like a tough choice.
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We'll see. Sixty million is one max contract and change. They probably make a run at Siakim. Then you gotta hope guys get guys for value to win a title with Tucker, Siakim, and an oft injured Embid. Not saying it can't
the moops said:
msudaisy26 said:
the moops said:
msudaisy26 said:
So they will have at least 60 million dollars to try to lure guys to play with Embiid before hitting the first threshold. Sounds pretty good. Plus we all know there will be a team looking to trade a disgruntled star or dump salary and giving up picks to do so or try to resign Harden to keep him happy.
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Just a clarification. They will likely be acting as a cap space team, so they will have 60-70 million to the salary cap, not the first luxury tax threshold.
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If I am reading it correctly and it is the NBA salary cap so there is a very good chance I am not. The cap is 137ish million this year, they only have 70 something million on the books for next year and I don't think the cap goes down. The first threshold is after 137 million.
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The cap is likely to be around 142 million next year. Generally thresholds are when you are talking about the luxury tax, which will be at roughly 172 million. Problem with clearing cap space is you are then hardcapped at the 142 million. So they will "only" have 60-70 million to fill out the entire roster
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That's also not counting cap holds for guys they might want to retain. Big one being Harris at $45.8M My guess is they will blow thru the soft cap with the Maxey signing ($13.2M cap hold)
 
I didn't see any comments about Luka getting ejected. Surprised no one commented on that. He and his coach and teammates all defended it by basically saying Canada played him very physically and he was upset at not getting more foul calls. Basically seems like how he handles himself in every NBA game, but NBA officials are apparently less willing to call that second technical and eject him than FIBA officials.
 
Just Win Baby said:
I didn't see any comments about Luka getting ejected. Surprised no one commented on that. He and his coach and teammates all defended it by basically saying Canada played him very physically and he was upset at not getting more foul calls. Basically seems like how he handles himself in every NBA game, but NBA officials are apparently less willing to call that second technical and eject him than FIBA officials.
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I thought it was great. NBA should take the same stance.

I was shocked to see him playing again today in a consolation game that at best could get them 5th place. How were the Mavs ok with that? Meaningless.
 
Capella said:
Just Win Baby said:
I didn't see any comments about Luka getting ejected. Surprised no one commented on that. He and his coach and teammates all defended it by basically saying Canada played him very physically and he was upset at not getting more foul calls. Basically seems like how he handles himself in every NBA game, but NBA officials are apparently less willing to call that second technical and eject him than FIBA officials.
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I thought it was great. NBA should take the same stance.

I was shocked to see him playing again today in a consolation game that at best could get them 5th place. How were the Mavs ok with that? Meaningless.
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I agree completely that the NBA should be much less tolerant of players whining, complaining, and showing up the refs. If I was commissioner, I'd make it a point of emphasis going into the season and toss out players with accompanying fines until they got the message and adjusted their behavior, and I wouldn't tolerate any backsliding on it, either.
 
Capella said:
I was shocked to see him playing again today in a consolation game that at best could get them 5th place. How were the Mavs ok with that? Meaningless.
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He is going to be playing basketball anyway. It's not as if these guys just hibernate for the summer until training camp
 
the moops said:
Capella said:
I was shocked to see him playing again today in a consolation game that at best could get them 5th place. How were the Mavs ok with that? Meaningless.
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He is going to be playing basketball anyway. It's not as if these guys just hibernate for the summer until training camp
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And I think some of these consolation games have an impact on Olympic qualifying (not sure this one did).
 
Yo Mama said:
the moops said:
Capella said:
I was shocked to see him playing again today in a consolation game that at best could get them 5th place. How were the Mavs ok with that? Meaningless.
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He is going to be playing basketball anyway. It's not as if these guys just hibernate for the summer until training camp
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And I think some of these consolation games have an impact on Olympic qualifying (not sure this one did).
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EU only gets two automatic qualifiers from the WC and those go to Serbia and Germany as their top two finishers. Slovenia will have to qualify next Summer.
 
Yo Mama said:
the moops said:
Capella said:
I was shocked to see him playing again today in a consolation game that at best could get them 5th place. How were the Mavs ok with that? Meaningless.
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He is going to be playing basketball anyway. It's not as if these guys just hibernate for the summer until training camp
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And I think some of these consolation games have an impact on Olympic qualifying (not sure this one did).
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Yea there is a tournament next summer for them but they already qualified for that. Maybe it affects the pots they get put in but still that’s no reason for him to play.
 
Capella said:
the moops said:
Capella said:
I was shocked to see him playing again today in a consolation game that at best could get them 5th place. How were the Mavs ok with that? Meaningless.
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He is going to be playing basketball anyway. It's not as if these guys just hibernate for the summer until training camp
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He’s been playing intense international ball for 5 weeks now.
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These guys play basketball regardless of whatever competitions are going on. If he wasn't half assing it in a 5th place game he would be doing similar stuff elsewhere
 
Olympic Qualifying : 12 teams
  1. France - host nation
  2. USA - top 2 WC finish from Americas
  3. Canada - top 2 WC finish from Americas
  4. Germany - top 2 WC finish from EU
  5. Serbia - top 2 WC finish from EU
  6. Australia - top WC finish from Oceana
  7. Japan - top WC finish from Asia
  8. South Sudan - top WC finish from Africa
2024 Qualifying tournament : 24 teams
  1. Puerto Rico - highest ranked Americas WC non-qualifier
  2. New Zealand - highest ranked Asia/Oceania WC non-qualifier
  3. Egypt - highest ranked Africa WC non-qualifier
  4. Slovenia - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  5. Lithuania - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  6. Latvia - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  7. Italy - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  8. Spain - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  9. Montenegro - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  10. Greece - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  11. Georgia - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  12. Finland - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  13. Mexico - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  14. Brazil -next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  15. Dominican Republic - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  16. Lebanon - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  17. Philipines - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  18. Angola - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  19. Ivory Coast - next 16 highest WC non-qualifier
  20. Croatia - winner EU pre-qualifying tournament I
  21. Poland - winner EU pre-qualifying tournament II
  22. Cameroon - winner Africa pre-qualifying
  23. Bahamas - winner Americas pre-qualifying
  24. Bahrain - winner Asia/Oceania pre-qualifying
4 tounaments of 2x3 team pools. Top two advance to 4-team knockout
 
This team gives up an embarrassing amount of "ball watching" offensive rebounds to guys flying in untouched from the outside.

Get a freaking body on someone.
 
TLEF316 said:
This team gives up an embarrassing amount of "ball watching" offensive rebounds to guys flying in untouched from the outside.

Get a freaking body on someone.
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Yes but it would help if they had any bigs at all. Rebounding is the only thing this team struggles with.
 
Navin Johnson said:
Capella said:
TLEF316 said:
This team gives up an embarrassing amount of "ball watching" offensive rebounds to guys flying in untouched from the outside.

Get a freaking body on someone.
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Yes but it would help if they had any bigs at all. Rebounding is the only thing this team struggles with.
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Neither team missed much in the first t half. Germany had nine total rebounds
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Currently 10-4 offensive rebounds for Germany. Both teams shooting well. Pretty much the difference in the game.
 
Oh wow just turned on the USA game. Stayed up late to watch the first semi. Assumed USA would be up by 40 points now.
 
I know he's been the guy so far....but I hate that 3 from Edwards. Go to the rim and draw a foul. Germany was scrambling back.
 
It's crazy these European teams do so well when their best player might not even make the roster of the usa/canada. I guess they've played together more and are more used to this style of basketball.

USA vs Canada should just be talent vs talent in an NBA style game, so USA should dominate that I'd think.
 
AAABatteries said:
Deamon said:
Oh wow just turned on the USA game. Stayed up late to watch the first semi. Assumed USA would be up by 40 points now.
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Why would you expect us to win this game by 40?
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Deamon said:
Capella said:
Somebody project the Olympic team please. Make sure Brunson isn’t on it.
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For the Olympics, wouldn't all the superstars want to play? Throw Steph, etc on that team and no one would come close.
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Steph, KD, Lebron may be too old and not want to do it. As for guys who weren’t here who are likely to go, I guess Booker is the best player? But then Serbia will be adding Joker to a team that is in the finals as well.
 
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