2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (1 Viewer)

[AAABatteries]

Dillon Gabriel enters the transfer portal - didn’t see it mentioned.

 

[General Malaise]

Dillon Gabriel enters the transfer portal - didn’t see it mentioned.

Rumor here is there's mutual interest between him and Oregon. Doesn't appear as if Ty Thompson will be the immediate successor to Nix.

 

[hagmania]

There is not a single team in the SEC, PAC 12, Big 10, ACC, or Big 8 that wouldn’t beat Liberty by at least 4 touchdowns.

You clearly didn't watch Michigan State play this year.

Or Nebraska.

People always forget about Vanderbilt.

Yeah, I think Vandy had the worst record (and were probably the worst) P5 school this season. Sorry @hagmania

In fairness, I often try to forget.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Alright so I’m just throwing this out there. Don’t consider it likely.

Say fsu beats Georgia and most players play. Texas wins the title with one loss and there are no undefeated teams left other than 14-0 fsu. Do they have a legit claim at a split title?

In that circumstance, FSU could legitimately demand that their 2023 season be added to the BCS Controversies Wikipedia page.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I don't think SEC's dominance and having the best players can be questioned. And that's the reason ALA got in. Is the #5 B10 or ACC school nearly as good as say UMiss or LSU? Last I saw the B10 had 1 5 star recruit last year ... 1 went to OSU I think. It's the same at the 4 star level. They are well behind the ACC which gets some at CLEM, FSU, and MIA. And the B12 gets some at TEX and OK. The Pac 10 gets a couple at USC, UCLA and ORE. And the SEC dominates the NFL draft picks. And therein lies why they don't wanna leave out ALA. Heck, I bet they wanted to put UGA in over TEX which they could have easily. Fact is the networks want to showcase and most people want to see the next generation of NFL stars. Those stars are coming from the SEC, which had like 26 players taken in the first 2 rounds last year.

Most NFL Draft Picks by conference:2023 - SEC2022 - SEC2021 - SEC2020 - SEC2019 - SEC2018 - SEC2017 - SEC2016 - SEC2015 - SEC2014 - SEC2013 - SEC2012 - SEC2011 - SEC2010 - SEC2009 - SEC2008 - SEC2007 - SEC

There's a clear #1 conference, and it only got stronger adding OK and TEX.

I'm not saying it's right, but that's a fact Jack

 

[3 hour lunch]

I will still watch the playoffs and some college football in the future, but man; the transfer portal and NIL have turned everything into such a farce. I actually believe players should get paid (some) and should have the right to transfer, but the current set-up is such a joke. This is minor league football driven by the dollar with basically no school affiliations. Maybe it was always that way to a certain extent but it all feels so gross. I don’t know what the answer is but I sure hope there are additional tweaks (salary cap?) long term. School spirit feels fake and like 80% of teams have no chance….

 

[jm192]

I wonder if it would have changed things if Louisville had held on to their lead in the 4th quarter the week before against Kentucky.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know what things the committee maybe discussed - 2nd/3rd string QB, relative strength of conferences, quality wins, etc.

I've always thought the committee wouldn't leave the SEC champion out but I do think they would have done it if Jordan didn't get inured. You think there's outrage now I imagine it would be just as bad or worse if Texas had been left out in favor of Bama.

That’s where I think this is garbage........because Texas beat Alabama......so we get one year the SEC is out.....it happens.

Oh well....life goes on.

I hope FSU beats GA and they will be the absolute peoples champs.

Yeah, not sure the committee could overcome the mental gymnastics of leaving Texas out - just another of the things that went wrong for FSU this weekend. I still think there's a chance FSU is in if UGA won.

Oh I think if GA had won.....FSU would be in.

I 100% agree with this. At the end of the day, the committee wants the easiest explanation.

Whether we agree or not, the committee views the SEC as the best conference. A 1 loss SEC Champion is never going to be left out. In fact, the SEC has never been left out of the CFP. Once we accept the fact that the commtitee views the SEC as the best conference, we move onto the biggest issue at play:

Six teams "deserved to be there." You can debate ad nauseum about who deserves it more. But it's wrong to say that any of the six did not deserve it.

Michigan, Washington, and FSU were undefeated. Georgia, Alabama, and Texas only had 1 loss.

Georgia's 1 loss was to Alabama--who made the playoff.
Alabama's 1 loss was to Texas---who made the playoff.

And while Texas's loss wasn't to a playoff team, it's really hard to justify why Alabama gets in but Texas doesn't when Texas beat them.

So while we can debate until the end of time, about who deserved it more, there are 6 teams with very good arguments as to why they should be in.

If Georgia wins, you've got 4 undefeated conference Champions.
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Washington
4. FSU

The committee doesn't have to think or explain anything beyond that. Sorry you won your conference championship and didn't get in. These 4 are undefeated conference champions. It's the easiest explaination

But once Bama won, they were the conference champion for what they feel is the best conference. With 1 loss, the SEC champion gets in. Now Texas has to be in because they beat Bama. The easiest explanation became FSU lost one of their most important players and won't fair as good.

It's easy to say FSU is undefeated and that's the easiest explanation. But then the committee would rather explain blame the QB situation than deal with the Bama vs Texas situation. It's a crime of convenience.

 

[timschochet]

There is not a single team in the SEC, PAC 12, Big 10, ACC, or Big 8 that wouldn’t beat Liberty by at least 4 touchdowns.

Have you watched one snap of liberty football this year?

Nope. Am I being unfair? Possibly, And it’s a single game so theoretically anything could happen. Oregon could fumble several times and play terrible and who the hell knows?

But at least on paper it’s easily the worst matchup in recent bowl history. Liberty is not Tulane; they should be crushed by Tulane. Or San Jose State.

In other words, you have no idea what you're talking about and just throwing poo off the wall to see what sticks.

You’re a Georgia Tech fan: does the name Cumberland mean anything to you?

I’m kidding…kind of. But I really don’t need to watch Liberty to know they shouldn’t be playing Oregon. It’s not fair to them, or to Oregon. It’s two completely different levels of talent. I hope I’m wrong because I don’t like blowouts. But this is not a game that should be happening,

 

[jhib]

There is not a single team in the SEC, PAC 12, Big 10, ACC, or Big 8 that wouldn’t beat Liberty by at least 4 touchdowns.

Have you watched one snap of liberty football this year?

Nope. Am I being unfair? Possibly, And it’s a single game so theoretically anything could happen. Oregon could fumble several times and play terrible and who the hell knows?

But at least on paper it’s easily the worst matchup in recent bowl history. Liberty is not Tulane; they should be crushed by Tulane. Or San Jose State.

Easily the worst matchup in recent bowl history and yet the spread is the same at the moment as at least one other game this year, and pretty close to the 5/6 Georgia FSU game. Just last year, we had an LSU Purdue Citrus bowl with a big spread and even worse actual matchup.

 

[Yenrub]

Are we to believe that Georgia is no longer one of the top 4 teams in the country because they lost by 3 points in part due to questionable officiating?

By questionable officiating I'm referring to them not reviewing the Bond catch on 4th and 4, allowing Alabama to get points right before the half instead of turning the ball over on downs.

 

[timschochet]

College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings

Strength of Schedule Played and Strength of Schedule Remaining for all 133 NCAA Division 1 Football teams.

powerrankingsguru.com

Strength of schedule for the teams in the playoff conversation:

Texas #2
Alabama #6
Washington #8
Ohio State #43
Georgia #45
Michigan #51
Florida State #55

Maybe part of the answer is right here: Florida State’s SofS doesn’t hold up to Texas, Alabama or Washington (of course neither does Michigan’s)

 

[culdeus]

College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings

Strength of Schedule Played and Strength of Schedule Remaining for all 133 NCAA Division 1 Football teams.

powerrankingsguru.com

Strength of schedule for the teams in the playoff conversation:

Texas #2
Alabama #6
Washington #8
Ohio State #43
Georgia #45
Michigan #51
Florida State #55

Maybe part of the answer is right here: Florida State’s SofS doesn’t hold up to Texas, Alabama or Washington (of course neither does Michigan’s)

That would have had to been the script if FSU could keep their QBs healthy.

 

[Capella]

https://x.com/redditcfb/status/1731748694914130000?s=46&t=ICx5zgfs3tFXUezBjAIfQQ

Alright hell with it let’s go Texas or Bama

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I wonder if it would have changed things if Louisville had held on to their lead in the 4th quarter the week before against Kentucky.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know what things the committee maybe discussed - 2nd/3rd string QB, relative strength of conferences, quality wins, etc.

I've always thought the committee wouldn't leave the SEC champion out but I do think they would have done it if Jordan didn't get inured. You think there's outrage now I imagine it would be just as bad or worse if Texas had been left out in favor of Bama.

That’s where I think this is garbage........because Texas beat Alabama......so we get one year the SEC is out.....it happens.

Oh well....life goes on.

I hope FSU beats GA and they will be the absolute peoples champs.

Yeah, not sure the committee could overcome the mental gymnastics of leaving Texas out - just another of the things that went wrong for FSU this weekend. I still think there's a chance FSU is in if UGA won.

Oh I think if GA had won.....FSU would be in.

I 100% agree with this. At the end of the day, the committee wants the easiest explanation.

Whether we agree or not, the committee views the SEC as the best conference. A 1 loss SEC Champion is never going to be left out. In fact, the SEC has never been left out of the CFP. Once we accept the fact that the commtitee views the SEC as the best conference, we move onto the biggest issue at play:

Six teams "deserved to be there." You can debate ad nauseum about who deserves it more. But it's wrong to say that any of the six did not deserve it.

Michigan, Washington, and FSU were undefeated. Georgia, Alabama, and Texas only had 1 loss.

Georgia's 1 loss was to Alabama--who made the playoff.
Alabama's 1 loss was to Texas---who made the playoff.

And while Texas's loss wasn't to a playoff team, it's really hard to justify why Alabama gets in but Texas doesn't when Texas beat them.

So while we can debate until the end of time, about who deserved it more, there are 6 teams with very good arguments as to why they should be in.

If Georgia wins, you've got 4 undefeated conference Champions.
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Washington
4. FSU

The committee doesn't have to think or explain anything beyond that. Sorry you won your conference championship and didn't get in. These 4 are undefeated conference champions. It's the easiest explaination

But once Bama won, they were the conference champion for what they feel is the best conference. With 1 loss, the SEC champion gets in. Now Texas has to be in because they beat Bama. The easiest explanation became FSU lost one of their most important players and won't fair as good.

It's easy to say FSU is undefeated and that's the easiest explanation. But then the committee would rather explain blame the QB situation than deal with the Bama vs Texas situation. It's a crime of convenience.

You're not wrong, but the answer to "we can't decide between Alabama or Texas without one of them being upset" shouldn't have been "just kick someone else out".

If they believed Bama deserved it more than Texas than they should have just left Texas out, and dealt with people being upset over the H2H.

 

[General Malaise]

There is not a single team in the SEC, PAC 12, Big 10, ACC, or Big 8 that wouldn’t beat Liberty by at least 4 touchdowns.

Have you watched one snap of liberty football this year?

Nope. Am I being unfair? Possibly, And it’s a single game so theoretically anything could happen. Oregon could fumble several times and play terrible and who the hell knows?

But at least on paper it’s easily the worst matchup in recent bowl history. Liberty is not Tulane; they should be crushed by Tulane. Or San Jose State.

In other words, you have no idea what you're talking about and just throwing poo off the wall to see what sticks.

You’re a Georgia Tech fan: does the name Cumberland mean anything to you?

I’m kidding…kind of. But I really don’t need to watch Liberty to know they shouldn’t be playing Oregon. It’s not fair to them, or to Oregon. It’s two completely different levels of talent. I hope I’m wrong because I don’t like blowouts. But this is not a game that should be happening,

And now I'm convinced I'll be taking Liberty and the points....

 

[3C's]

College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings

Strength of Schedule Played and Strength of Schedule Remaining for all 133 NCAA Division 1 Football teams.

powerrankingsguru.com

Strength of schedule for the teams in the playoff conversation:

Texas #2
Alabama #6
Washington #8
Ohio State #43
Georgia #45
Michigan #51
Florida State #55

Maybe part of the answer is right here: Florida State’s SofS doesn’t hold up to Texas, Alabama or Washington (of course neither does Michigan’s)

Who the hell is "powerrankingsguru"? Some nerd sitting at a keyboard making stuff up? That ranking is an outlier to others, sites that are known/established.

 

[bigbottom]

And before anyone says "well Louisville's offense sucks" keep in mind they scored 33 points against Notre Dame, 31 against Kentucky.

Wait until you see what they do to USC

Sorry about your DC.

 

[jm192]

And before anyone says "well Louisville's offense sucks" keep in mind they scored 33 points against Notre Dame, 31 against Kentucky.

Wait until you see what they do to USC

I'll be wathching and rooting against Louisville. USC was really disappointing even with Williams. I assume they're going to be a mess with him sitting out.

 

[Desert_Power]

Alright so I’m just throwing this out there. Don’t consider it likely.

Say fsu beats Georgia and most players play. Texas wins the title with one loss and there are no undefeated teams left other than 14-0 fsu. Do they have a legit claim at a split title?

In that circumstance, FSU could legitimately demand that their 2023 season be added to the BCS Controversies Wikipedia page.

Hah, was reading back through that last night.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I wonder if it would have changed things if Louisville had held on to their lead in the 4th quarter the week before against Kentucky.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know what things the committee maybe discussed - 2nd/3rd string QB, relative strength of conferences, quality wins, etc.

I've always thought the committee wouldn't leave the SEC champion out but I do think they would have done it if Jordan didn't get inured. You think there's outrage now I imagine it would be just as bad or worse if Texas had been left out in favor of Bama.

That’s where I think this is garbage........because Texas beat Alabama......so we get one year the SEC is out.....it happens.

Oh well....life goes on.

I hope FSU beats GA and they will be the absolute peoples champs.

Yeah, not sure the committee could overcome the mental gymnastics of leaving Texas out - just another of the things that went wrong for FSU this weekend. I still think there's a chance FSU is in if UGA won.

I think FSU would have been in for sure if Georgia won (which makes this even more silly) - 4 undefeated Power 5 Conference champs in the playoffs would have been considered a boon.

 

[Orange&Blue]

Dillon Gabriel enters the transfer portal - didn’t see it mentioned.

Rumor here is there's mutual interest between him and Oregon. Doesn't appear as if Ty Thompson will be the immediate successor to Nix.

I don't understand transferring from OU. Wouldn't he be starting next year?

 

[jm192]

I wonder if it would have changed things if Louisville had held on to their lead in the 4th quarter the week before against Kentucky.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know what things the committee maybe discussed - 2nd/3rd string QB, relative strength of conferences, quality wins, etc.

I've always thought the committee wouldn't leave the SEC champion out but I do think they would have done it if Jordan didn't get inured. You think there's outrage now I imagine it would be just as bad or worse if Texas had been left out in favor of Bama.

That’s where I think this is garbage........because Texas beat Alabama......so we get one year the SEC is out.....it happens.

Oh well....life goes on.

I hope FSU beats GA and they will be the absolute peoples champs.

Yeah, not sure the committee could overcome the mental gymnastics of leaving Texas out - just another of the things that went wrong for FSU this weekend. I still think there's a chance FSU is in if UGA won.

Oh I think if GA had won.....FSU would be in.

I 100% agree with this. At the end of the day, the committee wants the easiest explanation.

Whether we agree or not, the committee views the SEC as the best conference. A 1 loss SEC Champion is never going to be left out. In fact, the SEC has never been left out of the CFP. Once we accept the fact that the commtitee views the SEC as the best conference, we move onto the biggest issue at play:

Six teams "deserved to be there." You can debate ad nauseum about who deserves it more. But it's wrong to say that any of the six did not deserve it.

Michigan, Washington, and FSU were undefeated. Georgia, Alabama, and Texas only had 1 loss.

Georgia's 1 loss was to Alabama--who made the playoff.
Alabama's 1 loss was to Texas---who made the playoff.

And while Texas's loss wasn't to a playoff team, it's really hard to justify why Alabama gets in but Texas doesn't when Texas beat them.

So while we can debate until the end of time, about who deserved it more, there are 6 teams with very good arguments as to why they should be in.

If Georgia wins, you've got 4 undefeated conference Champions.
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Washington
4. FSU

The committee doesn't have to think or explain anything beyond that. Sorry you won your conference championship and didn't get in. These 4 are undefeated conference champions. It's the easiest explaination

But once Bama won, they were the conference champion for what they feel is the best conference. With 1 loss, the SEC champion gets in. Now Texas has to be in because they beat Bama. The easiest explanation became FSU lost one of their most important players and won't fair as good.

It's easy to say FSU is undefeated and that's the easiest explanation. But then the committee would rather explain blame the QB situation than deal with the Bama vs Texas situation. It's a crime of convenience.

You're not wrong, but the answer to "we can't decide between Alabama or Texas without one of them being upset" shouldn't have been "just kick someone else out".

If they believed Bama deserved it more than Texas than they should have just left Texas out, and dealt with people being upset over the H2H.

Oh sure. I've said multiple times in this thread--if you're leaving anyone out to put FSU in, it should be Texas and not Alabama. I think Georgia is better than Texas if we're just playing the game of "who are the 4 best teams today?"

I just think this is what it came down to.

Maybe TV ratings influenced it. Maybe they were concerned about which teams generate the most money. But at the end of the day, they had to leave 2 deserving football teams out and I believe they felt these were the easiest ones to explain.

Again, Georgia also has a helluva gripe, but FSU's is worse to the point that no one is talking about Georgia. No team ranked #1 going into conference championships got knocked all the way out of the playoffs. Losing to another playoff team in your conference championship has never been considered bad enough to knock you out. But...it was easiest for the comittee to say "Welp, you didn't win your conference championship."

 

[Yo Mama]

I wonder if it would have changed things if Louisville had held on to their lead in the 4th quarter the week before against Kentucky.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know what things the committee maybe discussed - 2nd/3rd string QB, relative strength of conferences, quality wins, etc.

I've always thought the committee wouldn't leave the SEC champion out but I do think they would have done it if Jordan didn't get inured. You think there's outrage now I imagine it would be just as bad or worse if Texas had been left out in favor of Bama.

That’s where I think this is garbage........because Texas beat Alabama......so we get one year the SEC is out.....it happens.

Oh well....life goes on.

I hope FSU beats GA and they will be the absolute peoples champs.

Yeah, not sure the committee could overcome the mental gymnastics of leaving Texas out - just another of the things that went wrong for FSU this weekend. I still think there's a chance FSU is in if UGA won.

I think FSU would have been in for sure if Georgia won (which makes this even more silly) - 4 undefeated Power 5 Conference champs in the playoffs would have been considered a boon.

Plus you would have had more traditional semifinal bowl matchups - Big10 vs Pac12 Rose Bowl and SEC vs ACC Sugar Bowl.

Stupid Alabama messed everything up.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Dillon Gabriel enters the transfer portal - didn’t see it mentioned.

Rumor here is there's mutual interest between him and Oregon. Doesn't appear as if Ty Thompson will be the immediate successor to Nix.

I don't understand transferring from OU. Wouldn't he be starting next year?

Hell, I thought the same thing about Caleb Williams. OU was likely a top 5 team with him the last two years. instead he went with Lincoln to a USC program that had no defense. I guess it will still pay off and he got a Heismann. I think he would have gotten all that and more at OU though.

 

[JAA]

Are we still debating FSU getting the shaft? I wanted to get in early this morning to rage but had meetings ...

 

[psychobillies]

Are we still debating FSU getting the shaft? I wanted to get in early this morning to rage but had meetings ...

Oh yeah, but I can assure you that whatever you are about to say has been said with exclamation points already. But please, don't let that stop a good raging.

Not to change the subject, but I hope Tampa is loading up on beer and liquor ahead of the LSU/Wisconsin matchup. They're going to need it.

 

[jm192]

Are we to believe that Georgia is no longer one of the top 4 teams in the country because they lost by 3 points in part due to questionable officiating?

By questionable officiating I'm referring to them not reviewing the Bond catch on 4th and 4, allowing Alabama to get points right before the half instead of turning the ball over on downs.

I absolutely believe Georgia is one of the 4 best teams.

I think Michigan and Washington are unquestioned. Undefeated, conference champion, haven't had an injury that completely alters 1 side of the ball.

Then you've got 4 teams with very strong claims to the last 4 spots.

I think if you're arguing "who earned it?" FSU gets in.

I think if your'e arguing "which 4 teams are the "best," Georgia and Alabama both get in. Why does Bama get in for being 1 of the 4 best teams but GA doesn't? Dunno. I still think this was the easiest thing for them to explain.

 

[JAA]

The answer to this debacle is either 8 team playoff or just four major conferences allowed in with only their champions moving on.

No. The only answer is to let the teams decide it on the field and not in a dark smokey room with old white men.

 

[JAA]

Are we to believe that Georgia is no longer one of the top 4 teams in the country because they lost by 3 points in part due to questionable officiating?

By questionable officiating I'm referring to them not reviewing the Bond catch on 4th and 4, allowing Alabama to get points right before the half instead of turning the ball over on downs.

I absolutely believe Georgia is one of the 4 best teams.

So if the 2 best teams are in the NFC, should the Super Bowl be 2 teams from the NFC?

 

[AAABatteries]

It's unfortunate (but not really) that we can't mention anything political because there's some fantastic hot takes from some politicians on this whole FSU saga.

 

[JAA]

It's unfortunate (but not really) that we can't mention anything political because there's some fantastic hot takes from some politicians on this whole FSU saga.

How about links? I havnt seen any and would like to read. Maybe just post them as informational and dont pontificate on them?

 

[AAABatteries]

It's unfortunate (but not really) that we can't mention anything political because there's some fantastic hot takes from some politicians on this whole FSU saga.

How about links? I havnt seen any and would like to read. Maybe just post them as informational and dont pontificate on them?

Not sure Joe would even want that - let's just say some very well-known politicians from Florida and that live in Florida chimed in. If you google you will find it.

 

[AAABatteries]

It also just dawned on me that FSU can thank Auburn for ****ting the bed at the end of the game. No way 2-loss Bama gets in. Although maybe they would have put Georgia 4th which would have been even worse.

 

[jm192]

Are we to believe that Georgia is no longer one of the top 4 teams in the country because they lost by 3 points in part due to questionable officiating?

By questionable officiating I'm referring to them not reviewing the Bond catch on 4th and 4, allowing Alabama to get points right before the half instead of turning the ball over on downs.

I absolutely believe Georgia is one of the 4 best teams.

So if the 2 best teams are in the NFC, should the Super Bowl be 2 teams from the NFC?

I'm not even advocating that Georgia should get in. Just that, they're one of the 4 best teams.


I think you can acknowledge that college sports and pro sports are not the same. So we shouldn't conflate the 2.
The NFL and NBA have 2 conferences. College has how many? Again. You really can't compare the 2. Sure, the pro leagues have divisions. But the divisions are still under the umbrella of each conference.

The NFL has a very structured playoff system. It's very clearly laid out how the playoffs work. The NBA has a very clearly laid out playoff structure.

College Football and basketball have committees. There are no clear cut guidelines. It's largely objective, but there is also a lot of subjective in there. If they feel their mission is to get the 4 best teams, then that's what they're going to do. If 2 of the best 4 teams are in the SEC, then those teams get to play in the playoffs.

Some people are advocating for a system that gives each Power 5 Champion a bid, and the best group of 5. If they up and decide we're going to do a bid tied to winning each conference, then cool. That's just not the current system.

 

[gianmarco]

Rick Scott letter

 

[CletiusMaximus]

We could just have a season that's one big bracket of all 130 teams. We could incorporate a complex loser's bracket system so most teams would get at least 7 or 8 games. Yes, there would be controversy with the seeding. Its not perfect (like the NFL is) but would eliminate this maddening circumstance where we feel there isn't really a "true" National Champion in college football.

 

[JAA]

Are we to believe that Georgia is no longer one of the top 4 teams in the country because they lost by 3 points in part due to questionable officiating?

By questionable officiating I'm referring to them not reviewing the Bond catch on 4th and 4, allowing Alabama to get points right before the half instead of turning the ball over on downs.

I absolutely believe Georgia is one of the 4 best teams.

So if the 2 best teams are in the NFC, should the Super Bowl be 2 teams from the NFC?

I'm not even advocating that Georgia should get in. Just that, they're one of the 4 best teams.


I think you can acknowledge that college sports and pro sports are not the same. So we shouldn't conflate the 2.
The NFL and NBA have 2 conferences. College has how many? Again. You really can't compare the 2. Sure, the pro leagues have divisions. But the divisions are still under the umbrella of each conference.

The NFL has a very structured playoff system. It's very clearly laid out how the playoffs work. The NBA has a very clearly laid out playoff structure.

College Football and basketball have committees. There are no clear cut guidelines. It's largely objective, but there is also a lot of subjective in there. If they feel their mission is to get the 4 best teams, then that's what they're going to do. If 2 of the best 4 teams are in the SEC, then those teams get to play in the playoffs.

Some people are advocating for a system that gives each Power 5 Champion a bid, and the best group of 5. If they up and decide we're going to do a bid tied to winning each conference, then cool. That's just not the current system.

My point is that it isnt/shouldnt be about the team "who look to be the best teams". It should be about the teams who have "earned the right" to play in the playoffs.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

4 teams just is not enough for a "playoff" with so many conferences. There needs to be an 8 or 12 team tournament.

 

[AAABatteries]

Rick Scott letter

Yeah - this is one of the things I was referring to. The Committee should tell Scott to pound sand.

 

[JAA]

Rick Scott letter

Yeah - this is one of the things I was referring to. The Committee should tell Scott to pound sand.

Why?

His letter is showing FSU has been damaged to the tune of 2million dollars.

 

[JAA]

Remember when the Eagles limped into the playoffs with Nick Foles as their QB? How did that turn out?

lame lame lame

 

[AAABatteries]

Rick Scott letter

Yeah - this is one of the things I was referring to. The Committee should tell Scott to pound sand.

Why?

His letter is showing FSU has been damaged to the tune of 2million dollars.

I’m willing to be shown wrong, but he has no authority here. Also, there’s nothing that I’m aware of that says they can’t pick any four teams they want. Should UGA be able to send the same letter?

 

[Tau837]

FSU got hosed imo

I think there’s a distinction between feeling bad for them and them getting hosed. I don’t think they got hosed based on the process but I do think they cosmically got hosed because their QB got hurt and Georgia lost to Bama.

The process?

They are a power 5 conference champion who is 13-0 in this day and age of the transfer portal and parity across the country. They have arguably the top defense in the country as well. They carried them to two wins to finish the season.

They earned the right to play for the prize. Period.

Bama.....lost to Texas who is in the dance.

It's fraudulent.

Their SOS was far worse than the others in contention for the top 4 spots. It is unfortunate for them that opened the door for the committee to exclude them because of the QB injury.

 

[JAA]

Rick Scott letter

Yeah - this is one of the things I was referring to. The Committee should tell Scott to pound sand.

Why?

His letter is showing FSU has been damaged to the tune of 2million dollars.

I’m willing to be shown wrong, but he has no authority here. Also, there’s nothing that I’m aware of that says they can’t pick any four teams they want. Should UGA be able to send the same letter?

Sure they can. Everyone who feels they are wronged should send the letter.

 

[JAA]

FSU got hosed imo

I think there’s a distinction between feeling bad for them and them getting hosed. I don’t think they got hosed based on the process but I do think they cosmically got hosed because their QB got hurt and Georgia lost to Bama.

The process?

They are a power 5 conference champion who is 13-0 in this day and age of the transfer portal and parity across the country. They have arguably the top defense in the country as well. They carried them to two wins to finish the season.

They earned the right to play for the prize. Period.

Bama.....lost to Texas who is in the dance.

It's fraudulent.

Their SOS was far worse than the others in contention for the top 4 spots. It is unfortunate for them that opened the door for the committee to exclude them because of the QB injury.

Please compare UM and FSU SoS.

Then tell me about Iowa. Then @LSU. Then Clemson and Duke.

 

[Yo Mama]

4 teams just is not enough for a "playoff" with so many conferences. There needs to be an 8 or 12 team tournament.

Funny thing is, a 4 team playoff could have worked going forward with the loss of the PAC-12. Just take the 4 major conference champions. No commitee needed. It would have been the “perfect” prove it on the field scenario (at least for the 4 big conferences).

 

[AAABatteries]

4 teams just is not enough for a "playoff" with so many conferences. There needs to be an 8 or 12 team tournament.

Funny thing is, a 4 team playoff could have worked going forward with the loss of the PAC-12. Just take the 4 major conference champions. No commitee needed. It would have been the “perfect” prove it on the field scenario (at least for the 4 big conferences).

Except the newly formed B1G and SEC wouldn’t go for it. It would have been a little better for sure.

 

[The Commish]

College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings

Strength of Schedule Played and Strength of Schedule Remaining for all 133 NCAA Division 1 Football teams.

powerrankingsguru.com

Strength of schedule for the teams in the playoff conversation:

Texas #2
Alabama #6
Washington #8
Ohio State #43
Georgia #45
Michigan #51
Florida State #55

Maybe part of the answer is right here: Florida State’s SofS doesn’t hold up to Texas, Alabama or Washington (of course neither does Michigan’s)

It should be rather obvious that this committee didn't put a ton of weight on the regular season. I'm not sure how this is relevant.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

It also just dawned on me that FSU can thank Auburn for ****ting the bed at the end of the game. No way 2-loss Bama gets in. Although maybe they would have put Georgia 4th which would have been even worse.

Would have lessened the Texas win over Alabama and probably kept FSU over Texas too. No one talks about full strength Alabama struggling against Auburn but FSU with a third string QB "struggles" against Louisville and it's a problem. Corrigan should be banned from college athletics.

 

[Tom Servo]

Oregon is way too strong for Liberty. I hate that matchup for both teams. Liberty deserves a shot at a decent game but against somebody they would have a chance to beat, like Iowa or Oregon State for instance.

I hate that Ohio St is playing Missouri instead of Oregon.

Not that you don’t have a good point (you do); we also felt the same way about Oklahoma v. Boise State way back when. These G5 teams are picking off P5 teams on a semi regular basi now. This ain’t your pop pop’s college football.